Hillary finally ends our short national nightmare in Philly. i am still loving this from Wild Bill:
‘She’s the best darn changemaker I ever met’
Really? I didn't realize Bill paid his women. Still, that endorsement would be compelling if we were electing a toll booth operator, or even a subway token clerk (do they still have tokens?). And maybe it lends credence to the notion that Hillary understands how changing technology has made many occupations obsolete.
Maybe.
Then again, as skilled artists of the second-oldest profession, Bill and Hillary surely are skilled at taking folding money and returning change, so maybe we should take Bill at his word. First time for everything.
If you drag a $100 bill through a trailer park, Hillary will give you back $99 in change. Other women's lives are so cheap to her.
Watch Clarice's video on the other thread this morning to see what I mean.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | July 28, 2016 at 10:06 AM
Darn,I just posted about Larry the Lobster on the previous thread. Poor Larry.
Posted by: Marlene | July 28, 2016 at 10:08 AM
I predict that she will rock the house...
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 28, 2016 at 10:12 AM
A side by side timeline of chronological highlights of Bill's happy family speech vs who he was banging while those memories were being created would be pretty funny.
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 28, 2016 at 10:16 AM
I'll rely on my friends here of sturdier being to report on the speech. What I am looking forward to is the Real Clear Politics Average on August 8th. By then, the bounces and bruises from the conventions should have dissipated, and we'll see whether Trump really made up some ground from his pre-convention deficit.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | July 28, 2016 at 10:20 AM
TK:
Thank you so much. This is the first time I have ever gotten motion sickness from scanning JOM.
Posted by: Appalled | July 28, 2016 at 10:23 AM
>>‘She’s the best darn changemaker I ever met’"
Really? I didn't realize Bill paid his women.
Speaking of a lot of change....
>>When Bill and Hillary first got married Bill said, "I put a box under the bed. Promise me you will never to look in it." In all their 40 years of marriage, Hillary never looked. On the afternoon of their 40th anniversary, curiosity got the best of her and she lifted the lid and peeked inside. In it were 3 empty beer cans and $81,874.25 in cash.
She closed the box and put it back under the bed. Now that she knew what was in the box, she was doubly curious as to why there was such a box and with those contents. That evening, they were out for a special anniversary dinner. After dinner, Hillary could no longer contain her curiosity and she confessed, saying, “I'm so sorry, Bill. For all these years, I kept my promise and never looked into the box under our bed. However, today the temptation was too much and I gave in. But now I need to know, why do you keep the 3 beer cans in the box?”
Bill thought for a while and said, "I guess after all these years you deserve to know the truth. Whenever I was unfaithful to you, I put an empty beer can in the box under the bed to remind myself not to do it again.” Hillary was shocked, but thought, "Hmmm, Jennifer, Paula and Monica. And since I know he is addicted to sex, three times is not too bad.”
She said, ”OK Bill, I guess I can forgive you.” Bill thanked her for being so understanding. They hugged and made their peace. A little while later Hillary asked Bill, "So why do you have all that money in the box?”
He answered, "Well, whenever the box filled up with empty cans, I took them to the recycling center."
Posted by: Reese Eichel | July 28, 2016 at 10:31 AM
You must be scrolling by the rapidly shifting goalposts comments, Appalled.
Equally blurry.
;-)
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 28, 2016 at 10:32 AM
Granny could have a massive seizure, keel over and clock her empty melon on the corner of the podium and the MFM would act like everything's ok.
Peripherally related to poor Larry, before Charles Stross started hectoring his readers with global warming nonsense, he made a convincing case for using lobster's nervous systems as the framework for future spaceships with a digital copy of a scientist's brain as the "passenger". That's the type of good stuff that his political lunacy has deprived me of.
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 28, 2016 at 10:32 AM
http://spectator.org/the-nevertrumpers-dirty-little-secret/
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 28, 2016 at 10:34 AM
Red Alert...Do not look at the picture Drudge has of BHO and Mrs. Bent Willie.
There are snakes that can unhinge their jaws to devour large prey. We now have one on the road to the WH ready to devour the entire country.
Posted by: Frau Nie Wieder Clinton | July 28, 2016 at 10:34 AM
This from the LA Times
Allahpundit
Allahpundit – @allahpundit
Trump still gaining in LA Times daily tracking poll, through all nights of Dem convention so far http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-usc-daybreak-poll-methodology-20160714-snap-story.html
Posted by: Lurker Susie | July 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM
Now that we've established that sarcasm is treason, may I say that your $12K upholstery frock looks fabulous, Ms. Clinton.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | July 28, 2016 at 10:43 AM
Whai is that on Hillay's tongue?
Mike Cernovich
9h9 hours ago
Mike Cernovich @Cernovich
Look close and you'll see the 33,000 missing email. #DemConvention pic.twitter.com/vmCs3JUQ7I
Posted by: Lurker Susie | July 28, 2016 at 10:44 AM
Even softball lobs can cause a seizure:
http://www.weaselzippers.us/286283-clinton-campaign-manager-burst-out-laughing-when-asked-if-hillary-will-hold-a-press-conference-before-election/
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 28, 2016 at 10:47 AM
Try this link
Https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CobDEdXWIAAVt_5.jpg
Posted by: Lurker Susie | July 28, 2016 at 10:48 AM
I hope this isn't strike 3
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3453888/posts
Posted by: Lurker Susie | July 28, 2016 at 10:50 AM
Well the dedication that it takes to catch that amazes, not to mention the fortitude.
Posted by: squaredance | July 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM
My first thought re that BOzo-HC pic was, "I wonder if BOzo is still flying his Chicago barber in every two weeks on our dime?" I'm certain he is and will as long as he can.
Posted by: DebinNC | July 28, 2016 at 11:02 AM
It really must frost Zippy to have to pretend to like Granny.
Posted by: Captain Hate | July 28, 2016 at 11:08 AM
I'm afraid the way Bill n Hill practice politics, any distinction left between the oldest and second oldest professions evaporates.
The only distinction left is their bordello operates as a 501(c)3 global initiative.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 28, 2016 at 11:12 AM
Judah Friedman at American Spectator delivers Bernie...
Worth reading it all.
Posted by: Frau Nie Wieder Clinton | July 28, 2016 at 11:12 AM
Not half as much as it frosts BillyJeff to have to, Capn.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 28, 2016 at 11:13 AM
If in fact Gary Johnson will garner more Bernibot votes than #NeverTrump, don't want him to play in traffic.
Posted by: Buckeye | July 28, 2016 at 11:26 AM
TK:
For Trump, there is only more goalpost that matters, and it doesn't move.
Posted by: Appalled | July 28, 2016 at 11:28 AM
Donald Trump: I’ll Prosecute Hillary Clinton as President
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/23/donald-trump-pledges-to-prosecute-hillary-clinton-as-president/
Posted by: Truthbetold5 | July 28, 2016 at 11:29 AM
Prosecution no longer on the table! No surprise there.
Trump Defines Clinton’s Greatest Accomplishment As Surviving Her Email Scandal
http://makeamericagreattoday.com/trump-defines-clintons-greatest-accomplishment-surviving-email-scandal/
Posted by: Truthbetold5 | July 28, 2016 at 11:30 AM
I suppose mindreader you will next try to tell us that prosecution is off the table.
Posted by: Magic 8-Ball | July 28, 2016 at 11:31 AM
Dang, missed it by a minute.
Posted by: Scratch! | July 28, 2016 at 11:32 AM
Buckeye:
Gotta say I can't figure the person who votes Bernie then votes Libertarian. Guess if you can't get the free Tuition, you'll vote for the guy who will legalize Pot?
Posted by: Appalled | July 28, 2016 at 11:33 AM
So that's why they chant 'Lock her up'?
Posted by: Quarter up. | July 28, 2016 at 11:35 AM
Seriously funny, Reese Eichel!! lol
Posted by: Beasts of England | July 28, 2016 at 11:36 AM
For you wine guys had a Panther Valley Pinot Gris with Mrs H's Greek chicken as a couple of her photography buds, one of whom photographed Trump for a magazine assignment (said he was very easy to work with), came for dinner. Complimented the meal nicely.
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone | July 28, 2016 at 11:37 AM
Well, I'm sure they did and I'll bet it complemented it too.
Posted by: Sorry, couldn't help myself, it was a hanging curve. | July 28, 2016 at 11:43 AM
Comment at PJM re wikileaks;
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 28, 2016 at 11:46 AM
Did Trump ask RNC crowd to stop anti-Clinton chant?
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/07/22/rnc-convention-donald-trump-waves-hands-as-crowd-chants-lock-clinton-up-sot.cnn
Posted by: Truthbetold5 | July 28, 2016 at 11:54 AM
The wine spoke to them
Posted by: -peter | July 28, 2016 at 11:56 AM
This is the big day in Philly. The Omen will speak? I hope they don't stuff it into leather pants again.
Posted by: henry | July 28, 2016 at 12:07 PM
Captain,
Pinot Gris generally smells so pretty. Such a great Summer drink!
Posted by: glasater | July 28, 2016 at 12:15 PM
I disagree with this assessment below and I'm wondering what some of y'all think about it?
Charles C.W. Cooke:
To the contrary, doesn't that help Trump in this remarkable election cycle ??? And, if not, isn't it absolutely neutral because this is an #AnybodyButHillary election looking for CHANGE and Trump simply needs to show he isn't a crazy racist misogynist ???
What, I'm wondering, is so smart about saying (in a Democrat address championing Hillary for President) that Donald Trump isn't Republican or conservative?
What?
That's simply the #NeverTrump approach that Republicans and conservatives have already dismissed, isn't it?
Wouldn't independents have no real problem granting him Republican or conservative status given his victories in the primaries and, in fact, haven't they already done so (judging by that L.A. Times Daily Poll, etc.) ???
What's so smart about that?
Posted by: RattlerGator | July 28, 2016 at 12:16 PM
I couldn't watch last night. What is the status of the seats vacated by Berniebros? Did they get them filled, or were they still empty?
Posted by: Porchlight | July 28, 2016 at 12:18 PM
Our Chitown lurker has the poop on the seat fillers. (or some other arrangement of those words).
Posted by: henry | July 28, 2016 at 12:22 PM
Have come across a fellow on twitter who writes the most elegant 'put downs' outside of JOM.
I asked him about how the MFM would 'spin' the Hill's acceptance speech and he wrote this:
Damian Bennett
MSM won't spin HRC speech.
It will enshrine it, elevate it to the Pantheon of Oratory, shoulder-bump Cicero
Wonderful!
He reminds me a little of DoT.
Posted by: glasater | July 28, 2016 at 12:25 PM
Smart for Obama to separate Trump from “Republican” and “conservative.” Best play for the Democratic party, in my view.
RG, as you say, that's absolutely the worst play for the Democratic party. The huge majority of Dem crossovers like Trump in part because he's NOT as conservative as the typical Republican nominee. Obama is giving the go-ahead to all wavering Dems in the Rust Belt and other depressed blue areas that Trump really isn't so bad. Non-right-leaning independents as well. And Bernievolk.
Anyone who doesn't believe this should go to The_Donald group on Reddit and look at all the rainbow flags.
It is much easier for Trump to pull in conservatives who hate Hillary than it is for him to pull over Dems and indies. Obama is only helping Trump here.
I almost think Obama is sabotaging Hillary by doing this. (I almost typed "deliberately sabotaging," but that would be redundant.)
C.W. Cooke has his head up his butt, which is typical for him these days.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 28, 2016 at 12:25 PM
The thing Trump shows most clearly, as did Reagan before him is, in politics, attitude is everything.
This is especially true for any Rep who starts off with what can only be described as a traitorous press arrayed with the Dems against him.
They're not traitorous because they favor the Dems over the Reps. They be just as traitorous were their favors dispensed exactly oppositely.
They are traitorous because their duty to the country is to favor neither, but instead to be the eyes and ears of all of the people; the citizenry being the only ones they are supposed to favor.
They are supposed to be a bulwark against the state in defense of self governance and yet they are now no more than loathsome courtesans of the mandarins most bent on destroying self governance.
With such a legion of prostitutes and pimps, an army of myrmidons in thrall to the Dems, any Rep that doesn't have a slash and burn mentality and an attitude of a sort of piracy gets steam rolled. I hope Trump succeeds and his tactics and manner are adopted by future Reps.
They can forego the kooky parts while retaining the daggers and long swords and the satisfied smirk as they stick one or the other between some oafish prog's ribs.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 28, 2016 at 12:27 PM
may I say that your $12K upholstery frock looks fabulous, Ms. Clinton.
So Dave is Eddie Haskell?
Posted by: jimmyk | July 28, 2016 at 12:28 PM
Costanza W. Cooke
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone | July 28, 2016 at 12:29 PM
For Theo and others who mistakenly believe(d) that voters' views are static:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/193913/clinton-image-lowest-point-two-decades.aspx
In their defense, with crummy campaigns like the ones the GOP has waged in recent cycles, they WERE static.
Fortunately, this time we have a highly competent and aggressive candidate who knows how to plow over the media to get his message out (while, incidentally, spending less money than any candidate in modern electoral history).
That's why they call it a campaign, folks.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 28, 2016 at 12:31 PM
RattlerGator @ 12:16
There's nothing smart about it.
But then, there's been precious little smart said over at NR since they went 100% NeverTrump.
Posted by: James D | July 28, 2016 at 12:32 PM
So Dave is Eddie Haskell? asks jimmyk.
Some say that, but at the end of the day they would be wrong. That's not who Dave is.
Posted by: Frau Nie Wieder Clinton | July 28, 2016 at 12:34 PM
Ignatz:
No writer has a duty to the people, and it's kind of Bolshevik to think so. If a writer is disliked by the people, they can ignore his network or newspaper, or tweet their opinion back at said reporter or said reporter's editor.
The member of the press might be liars, and they surely are partisans, but as long as they are engaging in free speech, each individual is doing exactly what the press in the days of the founders did.
Posted by: Appalled | July 28, 2016 at 12:37 PM
lol, Frau!!
Posted by: Beasts of England | July 28, 2016 at 12:37 PM
henry, thanks for that link from our Chitown friend.
Man, the Bernie people were dumb to leave the convention after the nomination. They should have waited.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 28, 2016 at 12:39 PM
-To the contrary, doesn't that help Trump in this remarkable election cycle ???--
Yes.
Asking a nevertrumper for hints on good campaign strategy is like asking a kamikaze pilot for tips on how to land a plane.
The answer will always be the same;
"BANZAI!!!!",
which roughly translated means "come, follow me and we'll go die in a fiery, burning, nearly supersonic wreck for a lost cause that not only won't accomplish anything it will actually allow our mortal enemies to win, but it'll sure show those so and so's in our own party we're so fanatically attached to our principles we'd rather evaporate in a massive spiteful explosion than win".
Or something pretty close to that.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 28, 2016 at 12:41 PM
For anyone annoyed with the chamber of crooks and their dirigiste vision for us as I noticed on the previous thread, they have launched their Future State Series. https://www.uschamberfoundation.org/future-state-series-1
Their first summit was about two weeks ago called Work Forward as all K-12 becomes about supposed workplace needs. Second is on healthcare and is in October.
No plans to consult with us. Hope someone with the Trump Campaign wakes up to quit getting speech advice from a lawyer who keeps quoting well-known Marxists. That is not who you want to look to on what School Choice actually means.
Posted by: rse | July 28, 2016 at 12:41 PM
who mistakenly believe(d) that voters' views are static
Yes, that's why Nate Silver gets it wrong so often. An Excel spreadsheet only gets you so far. Ditto for Rove and his clipboard.
Posted by: jimmyk | July 28, 2016 at 12:41 PM
John Adams, speaking of the French Revolution:
Our current press is not in fact free, because it is almost entirely shackled to one party.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 28, 2016 at 12:43 PM
Also from our Chicago friend, it wasn't Vlad, it was a known hacker that supplied wikileaks.
Posted by: henry | July 28, 2016 at 12:44 PM
In other news, water is wet:
https://news.grabien.com/story-watch-obama-refer-himself-119-times-during-hillary-nominatin
Posted by: jimmyk | July 28, 2016 at 12:44 PM
Appalled-I do not think that is true. The coordination and outright falsehoods deliberately being pushed by the major networks each night and not easily pierced unless you have an alternative source of facts.
The open deceit by the so-called libertarian and 'conservative' think tanks is also only piercable by someone with direct knowledge of the works being cited. It also helps to know precisely what the Prog Left is pushing that functions the same with a different name.
None of this is par for the course. It is a deliberate attempt to collude to use the law, education, and political institutions to strip all meaningful freedom from the individual in society.
I don't know when you graduated from law school, but I did in 1984. Its orientation has now changed so much and sometimes I will get law deans coming up to me after cle programs asking how I knew to ask the questions I did on how they are so pushed know to make sure their law students see the law as a tool to seek the 'common good.'
Again this is not easily discernible either.
Posted by: rse | July 28, 2016 at 12:48 PM
RG - according to Rush Limbaugh, Trump is living rent-free in the Democrats' minds.
Appalled - how does that apply to the JournoListers parroting the *identical* line 24/7 for the average citizen to hear/read? We see the coordination, but the average person sees it as consensus.
Posted by: Frau Nie Wieder Clinton | July 28, 2016 at 12:52 PM
Good gracious, Appalled, don't be so dumb [I'm sure you won't mind me pointing out your real knuckleheadedness on this issue after you falsely pointed out my Bolshevism].
Of course they have the right to print or say whatever they like, but the entire point of guaranteeing a free press, as Edmund Burke and others noted, was to have an institution that functioned as an independent arm informing the people and thereby keeping the government honest and acting as a brake on its influence and control over the people. Hence the honorable term "the fourth estate" versus the dishonorable one "the fourth branch of government" or, more accurately these days, "the fifth column" .
A courtier press, which is virtually all we are left with, is anathema to a free people and a constitutional republic and the surest path to Bolshevism.
Not one of your better efforts.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 28, 2016 at 12:52 PM
Appalled @ 12:37
There's an implicit contract. News organizations and their employees are granted privileges above those of other citizens - shield laws for journalists, access to leaders and institutions that the rest of us don't get, and so forth, and governmental and public recognition of their role as a check on the power of the government.
But in return for all that, there are certain expectations. A basic level of honesty is one. Not service as de facto campaign operatives for one party over the other, is another.
If they don't want to tell the truth, and if they want to be Democrat (or GOP, as if) operatives, fine. Then they don't get the extra protections under the law, the special access, or the respect, either.
Posted by: James D | July 28, 2016 at 12:54 PM
Porch --
I certainly never said or believed that voters are "static." But Trump's success in the polls so far does come as a surprise to me, but not quite as big a surprise as him winning the nomination. As I have said here many, many times, my predictions have been terrible this year. That does not mean that Trump will win (or that he will lose).
RG --
I think that the line in Obama's speech saying that Trump is not really a Republican or a conservative indicates that Obama is only interested in presidential politics. It is a helpful line to Rodham as it throws something of a bone to the #neverTrumpers and may get a few of them to vote Rodham. But the DCCC and DSCC have been working their little tails off trying to tie every Republican candidate for dogcatcher on up to Trump and that undercuts his message.
Ig --
You might have a point comparing the #neverTrumpers to kamikazes. But it seems to me that the original band of Trump supporters (I don't mean you or most people here) were immune to arguments that Trump would be less likely to win than a more traditional candidate. As I recall, their response was along the lines of "I don't care, I just want to stick it to Boehner/McConnell etc."
As it turned out, Trump has a better chance of winning than almost anyone -- including a lot of his supporters -- first thought. But when the hard core Trumpsters were faced with a "but your guy will lose" argument a fair number of them said "so what, we still want him."
Posted by: Theo | July 28, 2016 at 12:55 PM
daddy-apparently caltech and jpl are partnering with this school. https://edsource.org/2016/elementary-school-students-in-stem-academy-mingle-with-big-time-scientists/567320
Posted by: rse | July 28, 2016 at 12:58 PM
"it's kind of Bolshevik to think so"
What a strange, unhistorical Idea.
In "Bloshevikism", the purpose of the deia is publish propaganda for the Party, of which the state is only a political manifestation.
In liberal societies it the notion of a "free press" has been to gather the truth, albeit through competing media organs.
Appalled is fabricating history here.
(And let me point out that broadcast media is licensed by the state at least prior to the rise if the internet. These lienses certainly make noise aobut the "free press".)
What we have no is very similar in function if not in the types of ownership, to what went on in the USSR, and what goes on to one degree or another in China.
It is more subtle, but as we can see with the current shenanigans at FOX (during an election cycle, mind you), that the effect is the same. Perhaps it is worse in that it presented itself as an actual free press.
Beyond that, the sort of collusion we appear to have seen the last 60 years or so would seem to violate the election laws too.
Posted by: squaredance | July 28, 2016 at 01:00 PM
Trump has groupies?
Who knew?
You must have skipped your coffee and donuts or granola or methamphetamines this morning Appalled.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 28, 2016 at 01:01 PM
Oops that was Theo.
Maybe you guys can get a bulk price on some crystal meth. :)
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 28, 2016 at 01:02 PM
I certainly never said or believed that voters are "static."
Theo, I didn't say you used that word. However, as I remember, you gave us several dozen nearly identical comments noting how Trump was the least electable candidate available to GOP voters and that his high negatives would make it impossible for him to win. That implies that those negatives (or Hillary's) wouldn't change.
But when the hard core Trumpsters were faced with a "but your guy will lose" argument a fair number of them said "so what, we still want him."
I'd love to see evidence of the "so what?" comments. In my recollection, Trump supporters have always asserted that he was the candidate most likely to win.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 28, 2016 at 01:05 PM
I agree with Appalled @12:37.
The question is why does so much of the media lean left? I think because it is much easier to become popular (and hence powerful, their real goal) by telling people that they are victims and that they can have something for nothing than it is to tell people that if they want to be a success they need to work hard and eat their vegetables and even that might not work.
Liberal leaders are brokers who mediate on behalf of the masses to use their collective power (either as a mob or at the voting booth) to extort things from those who produce them. Of course, in the process, the liberal leaders take a hefty cut both financially and most certainly in terms of power.
Interesting story in the LA Times today about how the wining and dining of big wigs in Philadelphia is indistinguishable from that in Cleveland. The Democrats are the "people's party," but the donors willing to write big checks get all the perks. And we are not just talking steak dinners, either. We are talking government guarantees on loans for their businesses, etc.
We are faced with a choice between which band of oligarchs to be ripped off by.
Posted by: Theo | July 28, 2016 at 01:06 PM
Gee whiz, Theo, did you ever think for one minute that when you told the so-called 'Trumpsters' that he couldn't win, that they knew something you didn't?
Posted by: Beasts of England | July 28, 2016 at 01:11 PM
Because Theo that is all is taught, in history economics media, all based on race gender class, the individual only exists as a subordinate to those category.
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | July 28, 2016 at 01:13 PM
I agree with Appalled @12:37.
Big surprise there but thanks for the upfront warning so I can SOB.
Posted by: lyle | July 28, 2016 at 01:13 PM
Heh, if you can stand the risk of it blowing up in your face you can make it yourself.
Posted by: Crystalline latrine. | July 28, 2016 at 01:13 PM
Dog likes smell of woman's crotch; border control then inspects her anus, penetrates her vagina twice and watches her have a bowel movement.
After finding nothing they tell her to sign a consent form and they'll pay for her sexual assault. She refused and was sent a bill for $5,000.
She just settled for $475,000. I would have held out for more.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 28, 2016 at 01:13 PM
Trump supporters have always asserted that he was the candidate most likely to win.
And even some of us who were not Trump supporters in the primaries were still able to see that his fresh approach and tactics made him most likely to win.
Despite Theo implying we were crazy.
Posted by: Buckeye | July 28, 2016 at 01:14 PM
Another good sign; I have a friend in D.C. who is a reasonable partisan and has been successful in Democrat circles. This friend loves Barack and Michelle and loved both of their speeches at DNC 2016. We had a text exchange this morning where I asserted that Donald Trump is eviscerating the Democrats.
Complete agreement.
They may put up a good front on TV but they know what's happening. I'm sure there's still hope Hillary can turn it around, but I suspect a very deep fear is starting to settle in.
Fear of a landslide.
Posted by: RattlerGator | July 28, 2016 at 01:16 PM
Is it wrong for me to think Detox Ransome is vastly more beneficial to the republic than anyone at the Dem convention?
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 28, 2016 at 01:17 PM
Porchlight --
I am going on memory, which could be faulty.
You are of course correct that many of the original hard core Trumpsters argued that he could win and might have even argued that he had a better chance to win, but I seem to recall (and again, this is just memory) that a common response to the electability argument was "I would rather lose with Trump than win with Jeb (or some other despised member of the GOPe.)"
I do not recall one time during the contested primary season encountering anyone here saying "Well, I would prefer some other nominee to Donald Trump, but I am going to vote for him in my primary because I think Trump has the best chance to win in November."
But we are where we are. No real point in going back over the arguments of the past. I was just responding to Ig's point that the #neverTrumpers (clearly a shrinking group) are not interested in winning this election.
Posted by: Theo | July 28, 2016 at 01:18 PM
Love it RG.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 28, 2016 at 01:18 PM
Heh, Drudge had to photoshop Hillary to make her presentable.
Posted by: It won't be up long. | July 28, 2016 at 01:18 PM
Downticket dismay, RG.
Posted by: DNC-Do Not Care. | July 28, 2016 at 01:21 PM
Still going with 'Trumpsters', huh, Theo? Perhaps you should park that moniker...
And yes, there were people here and elsewhere who voted for Trump because they thought he was the best candidate and had the best chance to win the primary and general elections.
Posted by: Beasts of England | July 28, 2016 at 01:22 PM
From Drudge, storms and flash floods for Philly today /tonight. The Gods are angry, lightning could strike as the Omen introduces Red Broomstick.
Posted by: henry | July 28, 2016 at 01:24 PM
RG
I have a sister who is married to a die-hard Democrat. She is the odd duck in their family as all the kids are also progs. I like to think she is the more level headed.
My BIL's behavior suggests that Dems are worried that they have really screwed the pooch by buying into the Shrillary coronation.
If Trump does pull off the landslide, Thanksgiving dinner will be VERY interesting.
I will do my best not to gloat:)
Posted by: Buckeye | July 28, 2016 at 01:24 PM
Lurker Susie linked this at 10:36 am. Wanted to re-link it because it is really remarkable:
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-usc-daybreak-poll-methodology-20160714-snap-story.html
Trump's lead increased more during DNC than it did during RNC. And by lead increasing, I mean total separation. Right-click to see.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 28, 2016 at 01:24 PM
"The Omen will speak? I hope they don't stuff it into leather pants again."
I hate to tell you, henry, but that was not leather pants: it is her skin! Hillary! promised to tell us about Area 51 but she won't.
I should denounce myself for such snark but rse's evidence of what is happening around us requires a yuuuge swig of gallow's humor.
Posted by: Frau Galgenhumor | July 28, 2016 at 01:27 PM
Search for the facies of those with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.
Posted by: Recognize anyone? | July 28, 2016 at 01:29 PM
How to tell Theo from Appalled:
1. Theo proofreads his stuff. Appalled...not so much.
2. Theo says Rodham, Appalled says Hillary.
3. Appalled is more likely to make wise-ass remarks. Theo tends towards elegant phrasing Appalled is often jealous of.
4. Theo tends to focus on electability. Appalled is just appalled there is a good chance Trump will be President.
5. Appalled supports the Braves. I'm sure Theo does not.
Posted by: Appalled | July 28, 2016 at 01:30 PM
Hee hee, Appalled; why we love you both.
Posted by: Always read you, well, when I read. | July 28, 2016 at 01:32 PM
Serious question for JOMers - does anyone believe, as some of my neverTrump friends do, that any GOP candidate would be doing just as well against Hillary as Trump is doing thus far?
I think that makes me hit the ceiling faster than any other single argument from them, except the one where Trump is secretly trying to win the election for Hillary.
Posted by: Porchlight | July 28, 2016 at 01:33 PM
She just settled for $475,000.
Good lord. I'm no lawyer but I'd damn sure add a coupla zeros to the claim and make the judge reduce it on appeal.
Posted by: lyle | July 28, 2016 at 01:34 PM
Guess Who Else Was An Enabler Of Bill Clinton’s Rape? Donald Trump. (VIDEO)
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/05/24/guess-else-enabler-bill-clintons-rape-donald-trump.-video/
Posted by: Truthbetold5 | July 28, 2016 at 01:34 PM
Q. Why does Wells Fargo Center smell like urine?
A. Julian Assange took a WikiLeak on Hillary's campaign.
Posted by: Stephanie | July 28, 2016 at 01:35 PM
It's simply a populist revolt, Porch, and truly, seems more against our free press than anything else.
Posted by: Deep, throaty, regurgitation. | July 28, 2016 at 01:35 PM
seems more against our free press than anything else.
We have a "free press"?
Huh.
Posted by: lyle | July 28, 2016 at 01:37 PM
Thank for that tidbit, RattlerGator - it certainly jibes with my tea-leave reading from a few honest blog commenters at lefty sites. And while their comments get shouted down by other commenters, the very idea that they'd a) be willing to see something so contrary to the meme and b) be willing to be ostracized at their safe space, is worthy of note.
Posted by: Beasts of England | July 28, 2016 at 01:38 PM
No one else was capable of leading it, and I like to think some of his motivation is the ridicule he received at one of the press lollapaloozas a few years ago.
Posted by: Who else could do it? I'm thinking. | July 28, 2016 at 01:39 PM
Appalled has a sense of humor. Theo...not so much.
Posted by: Buckeye | July 28, 2016 at 01:40 PM
Heh, lyle, a mere domestic irony, but I think you'll be amused at its bouquet.
Posted by: Salud! Or is it 'Gesundheit'? | July 28, 2016 at 01:40 PM