Nobody Likes An 'I Told You So'

Nobody likes an "I told you so", which means critics of Obama's open-restrooms policy will be losing a lot of friends:

Transgender Woman Is Charged With Voyeurism at Target in Idaho

By NIRAJ CHOKSHIJULY   14, 2016

I'm surprised the Times dared publish this. From the story, the suspect used a smartphone video camera and eventually confessed. Had she merely eyeballed other women, the evidence would be much less compelling.

The authorities in Idaho charged a transgender woman this week with secretly taking pictures of an 18-year-old woman changing in a Target fitting room.

The national retail chain drew praise from transgender advocates and condemnation from conservative groups when it announced in April that it would allow customers to use the restroom or fitting room corresponding to their gender identity.

An officer from the Bonneville County Sheriff’s Office was called to a Target in Ammon, Idaho, on Monday evening by a woman who said she saw someone reach over the wall separating the fitting rooms there with an iPhone taking pictures or a video, according to a court document. While a majority of Target locations have unisex fitting rooms, the Ammon store does not, a spokeswoman said.

In the longer run, unisex changing rooms and bath rooms are the solution to this particular societal evolution. There are obvious obstacles - it can be expensive; settings that include large crowds, such as concert halls or schools, might need to (horrors!) provide gender-specific facilities complemented by unisex alternatives; and retro-fitting public schools might strain already scarce public funds.

Not to mention feminist complaints about micro-aggressions regarding whether the toilet seat is up or down, and why did that eight-year old boy pee all over it anyway?

All of this could have taken place after something representing a national conversation, but Obama is a man in a hurry.

Forward!

Comments

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Terrible news for Hillary;
Jill Stein Promises to Pardon Snowden and Appoint Him to Her Cabinet.

You carefully court the traitor vote by exposing vital intelligence to enemy hackers and the next thing you know some dumb, commie, Jew broad is offering to put a real traitor in charge of national security.
Poor Hill, can't win for losin'.

[lyle]

FTR, I've never so much as stepped foot inside a Target store. I can't vouch for Eric. 😬

[Frau Tee oder Kaffee?]

I see London, I see France.

I see someone's underpants!

[Eric in Boise]

Ammon, Idaho

In Sticks, Chick With Dick Takes Quick Pic, Gets Nicked.

I've never so much as stepped foot inside a Target store. I can't vouch for Eric.

I buy all of my wine there.

(ducks)

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Housing Bubble 2.0
It's different...

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Larry Laurie Craig?

[Dave (in MA)]

.

[lyle]

Wide stance angle lens.

[lyle]

Apropos of nothing, I'm kinda liking Ace's sobriquet of the Dem nominee: Beefy Elderly Drunken Crazylady.

[jimmyk]

When a newspaper story says "transgender woman" does that mean it's someone born a man who has lopped off his privates to be come a "woman," or someone born a woman who gets a man's privates grafted onto her? Or is it someone who just feels like being the opposite sex? In this case it seems to be the latter. My guess is there's no rhyme or reason to the usage, and this "woman" is as much a "woman" as I am. (No snarky comments, please.)

[Dave (in MA)]

Tootsie has 3 fewer syllables.

[Buckeye]

you're a brave "man" jimmyk:)

[jimmyk]

Catching up, also wanted to comment, perhaps obviously, on this from the last thread:

From the WaPo:

few people privately will make the case that Donald Trump is qualified or temperamentally suitable to be commander in chief

Could anyone honestly make the case that Hillary is qualified temperamentally, ethically, or any other way qualified or suitable?

And why "privately"? This idiot is suggesting that (wink, wink) regardless of people's public support of Trump, no one seriously thinks he's qualified. It's more likely the opposite: In the privacy of the voting booth millions have declared him not only fit, but their preferred candidate, while the enormous abuse heaped on anyone who publicly supports him no doubt has inhibited people from public proclamations.

[Frau Tee oder Kaffee?]

lyle - one guy's wide stance is another fella's manspreading.

[Porchlight]

jimmyk, I have trouble keeping it straight, but I'm pretty sure "transgender woman" means born-man-now-woman and "transgender man" means born-woman-now-man.

In other words the person's current identity is the one mentioned in the phrase.

[lyle]

Way to man up, jimmyk. 😎

[Porchlight]

Darn it, I didn't even answer the question you asked.

My understanding from SJW observation is that it doesn't matter whether or not the person has had surgery. If they identify as female and are still in full possession of male sporting equipment, they are female. Such as Caitlyn Jenner.

It's all about the feels.

[Lurker Susie]

A trans woman (sometimes trans-woman or transwoman) is a transgender person who was assigned male at birth but whose gender identity is that of a woman. The label of transgender woman is not always interchangeable with that of transsexual woman, although the two labels are often used in this manner. Transgender is an umbrella term that includes different types of gender variant people (including transsexual people).

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Yeah, but transgender can be either pre-op, post-op or like apparently many of them never-will-op.

[Sue]

A military coup happening in Turkey? Not sure what is going on.

[lyle]

Huh. I thought it had something to do with heels.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Hey, the movie Bengazi will be on TCM in a little while.

Victor McLaglen is playing the part of Hillary.

[lyle]

never-will-op

Or do-wop.

(Maybe I should take a nap...) 😀

[Porchlight]

I thought "transsexual" was now an archaic term as we must use "gender" now at all times ("sex" being too binary or something).

It used to be that "transgender" was identifying as opposite gender, regardless of whether surgery had taken place, and "transsexual" was if you actually had the surgery.

But I think it's all "transgender" now and if you actually went and had the surgery that doesn't make you any more special than Joe Blow who decides to put on a dress and wander into the Target dressing room for the day.

[Dave (in MA)]

Re: Sue,
https://www.google.com/#q=turkey&tbm=nws&tbs=sbd:1

[fdcol63]

I really hate being lectured on "American values" by some narcissistic, anti-American, anti-Western, anti-capitalist, anti-Semitic, jihadi-apologizing Marxist-Socialist who grew up in remote Hawaii and Sunni Muslim Indonesia, who was weaned by an atheist mother and Communist pal Frank Marshall Davis, and whose Chicago buddies were domestic terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.

[Frau Tee oder Kaffee?]

Privately a lot of people know how outrageously crooked, phony, dishonest, sick and dangerous Hillary! is but do not dare voice this in public.

**The only unindicted person running for president.**

[jimmyk]

You mean "13 Hours" Iggy?

Way to man up

Guess I should have said "as much a woman as Lyle or Buckeye." :)

[daddy on iPhone]

Call me when there is a military coup going on in this country, and then tell me where to join

[Dave (in MA)]

Tom Brady drops 'Deflategate' litigation, accepts 4-game suspension

Boston Herald

[jimmyk]

Jesse Kelly ‏@JesseKellyDC 6h

France is a bloody place because of strict gun laws and mass Islamic immigration. That's also Hillary's campaign platform.

[fdcol63]

Probably need to wait to see who is couping in Turkey.

Hopefully anti-Erdogan / pro-Western democracy factions.

Hopefully not anti-Erdogan / pro-ISIS jihadi factions.

[glasater]

Yes, daddy..

Where are those Turkish and Egyptian military types to come and help the US out.

[-peter]

Fdcol for the win

[Buckeye]

haha jimmyk!

[Thomas Collins]

Turkey's factions appear to be worried about matters other than gender identity neutral bathrooms.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/

[Dave (in MA)]

Hot Gas has the best Turkey coup roundup that I've seen so far.
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/15/wow-coup-in-progress-in-turkey/

[Porchlight]

Ah, here's a little good news from Mr. Porchlight Sr. My folks are in the well-heeled western Mpls suburbs. Verrry blue. Lookie what popped up next to the local liquor store about three miles west of their house:

You bet I'm going straight there when I arrive in a couple of weeks.

[Miss Marple 2]

So, I head up to take granddaughter to work, and by the time I get home there's a coup attempt in Turkey.

These Friday news days are something, aren't they?

Hostages at Turkish military Hq in Ankara, but according to Fox Erdogan is safe.

All flights stopped. Low flying planes over capital.

[Beasts of England]

That's awesome, Porch!!

[Thomas Collins]

OK, what will be TM's next threadstarter:

(I) Traditional Friday Afternoon Brady Takes His Balls and Goes Home.

(II) Traditional Friday Afternoon the Drumsticks, Wings, Gravy, Cranberry Sauce and Stuffing Are Flying All Over in the Turkey Food Fight.

(III) Traditional Saturday Morning Did Trump Try to Dump Pence or Not.

(IV) Traditional Saturday Morning Information Overload Thread.

[henry]

Before they were pre-emptied by Turkey's military hijinx, the BLM peeps had a national "Day of Rage" planned for this evening.

Question: who had enough popcorn for today?

[Sandy Daze]

Watching Gorda on Fox Business.

Useful comments.

I want the military to succeed, Erdogan to fall.

[Miss Marple 2]

Isn't the military in Turkey sworn to uphold the secular government originally established by Attaturk?

I am sorry if this is wrong information and a stupid question, but I am on information overload on Middle Eastern governments.

[maryrose]

Fdcol63
I agreed on the other thread and I do on this one as well.
Obama is t like us.
He doesn't share our religious or American values.
So when he says that is not who we are.
We are not him.
He is foreign to me.
I cannot relate to him as a fellow American.
Dave:
I saw that info about Brady earlier.
It will give Grappo a chance.
However just the typical Browns luck.
He will be able to play against us in the fifth week.

[Sandy Daze]

Gorda s/b Gorka

[Sandy Daze]

MM - - yes.

[maryrose]

I love the threads today.
Remember we are all in this together!
Thanks everyone!

[maryrose]

TC
You are cracking me up!
Let us have all 4 of those suggestions for a thread.

[Sandy Daze]

Erdogan has been a pita, and worse, much worse. Military back in power would be stabilizing force for good, a push back against increasingly islamized Turkey, and a wall against ISIS, which Erdogan supported.

[henry]

Twitter has Turkish Intel saying the coup is being suppressed -- near over. They have their own Bagdad Bob?

[Miss Marple 2]

Sandy,

So, we should root for the coup, just like Sisi in Egypt.

It is a pretty sad state of affairs when I am forced to root for military coups.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

If they truly give that bastard Erdogan the boot that is not only the best news this year, what will our poor little Islamist in Chief do?
Cry in his wadded panties?

[daddy on iPhone]

Top of the hour CBS radio news already in protect Obama mode, simply playing sound bites of him saying we must stay true to our values of Freedom and Diversity. That is followed by an impassioned sound bite of Reverand Al saying it is wicked to want the Presidents Birth Certificate but not wanting an ID to buy a gun

[maryrose]

Henry:
Remember when San Bernadino rained on the BLM's parade?
Hey kids more important things are happening every day in this world.
Your time is up.
Somebody get the hook!
Their 15 minutes is up!

[Miss Marple 2]

Gorka has shown up on the Five.

Says military has said enough is enough, explaining military is is guarantor of democracy.

Says military has stepped up to the plate as is stopping Erdogan. Big news.

[henry]

Daddy, did the Rev Al say where you can buy a gun without ID? For a friend.

[Thomas Collins]

How about this one, maryrose:

(V) "Damn! Just as I'm Having My Baklava and Kahvesi, and Watching My Fave Belly Dancer Perform, This Has to Happen" Attempted Coup Against Erdogan Thread.

[anonamom]

This lake I've been coming to for six decades is less than ten miles from the National Guard training facility used by Michigan, and at least parts of Indiana and Ohio too.

So I grew up hearing artillery rattle the windows as a routine part of the best days of my life, and regarded the bombers flying overhead as security.

Things got very quiet since 1992 or so. Rarely even saw anybody in uniform in town any more.

There have been more planes drilling in the past two weeks than the past two decades though.

Just sayin.'

[daddy on iPhone]

Wickedness should be made of firmer stuff. Wickedness is driving a Mack truck into 220 innocents. That's wickedness. And Wickedness is the President standing up and refusing to say that Islam is the cause and the source of that wickedness, while doing everything possible to smear good people who do correctly point out that the source of that wickedness is Islam. That's what wicked is.

[Michael (fpa Patriot4Freedom)]

The news out of Ankara sounds very hopeful.

Erdogan was probably grabbed by the army's special forces while he was attending 'services' at his usual Friday afternoon mosque.

The tanks and troops sealing off the airports, the bridges, the ferry terminals, etc. sure make it sound as if the military was successful.

The only fly in the ointment is the news that Erdogan has been absent for the past six days - that doesn't sound like a coup that was attempted this afternoon.

A successful coup would be the best news possible wrt the war on terror and ISIS.
Keeping my fingers crossed - but it surely appears as if the military has already succeeded.

[JM Hanes]

Comey may have settled on his legacy, but the only people who actually seem interested in exposing the truth are still in business: Lawyers seek to block Clinton testimony in email case. I've already given Judicial Watch some money, but at this point I'm thinking it might be worth sending them a monthly stipend, since Congress & DoJ sure don't seem to want the job.

[henry]

I hear reports Erdogan is loose in the mountains somewhere. All third hand.

[maryrose]

Michael
Things happen quickly.
Everyone's life can change on a dime.
An unchanged tomorrow is not promised to you.

[maryrose]

JMHanes:
Judicial Watch has been relentless.
No wonder Hildebeast went to such great lengths to hide her E-mails from them.

[Miss Marple 2]

henry,

I hope that SOB is running from village to cave to hidey-hole like Saddam.

[maryrose]

daddy
I refuse to watch any coverage of gun issues.
Beating a dead horse.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--I hear reports Erdogan is loose in the mountains somewhere.--

Not to worry, Zero Dark Thirty Barry will get his man.

[henry]

Erdogan live via FaceTime (per our Chicago lurking unit). No link or transcript.

[henry]

Aha! Now a tweet "Erdogan's plane refused landing rights in Instanbul -- seeking asylum in Germany"

Calling for people to take to the streets.

[daddy on iPhone]

BTW, we r at a local creek cooling off and Fry is in the creek surrounded by half a dozen huge pink purple salmon each easily 2 feet long. Took a pic. Fry does not see them amazingly. Obviously bears are close but our eyes are wide open. Very cool. U guys would all love to be here

[Beasts of England]

I forgot about the SB attacks 'ruining' the last BLM silliness, maryrose! They're batting 1.000!! lol

p.s., best wishes for your safety next week. I like the mace! :)

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I'm guessing Turkey's Generals did not use Hillary's server for pre coup communications.

[maryrose]

Henry:
I think the Istanbul airport is closed.
daddy:
You have hit on the true definition of wickedness.

[maryrose]

daddy:
I have Alaska on my bucket list.
I would love to be there.
Close the garage door ok?

[jimmyk]

I hope that SOB is running from village to cave to hidey-hole like Saddam.

Are you talking about Hillary or Erdogan?

[Miss Marple 2]

Picked this up on Treehouse. Erdogan was trying to get citizenship for Syrian refugees, which wasn't at all popular.

Gee, who does THAT sound like?

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/07/turkey-syria-refugees-citizenship-causes-tension.html#ixzz4EVztDogu

[Miss Marple 2]

jimmyk,

That's my all-purpose hope.

Hillary, however, couldn't run. It would be more like lumbering.

[Janet the expert]

Exactly, jimmyk @4:01!

http://pix11.com/2016/07/13/transgender-woman-accused-of-videotaping-18-year-old-in-target-fitting-room/

The title of the article should be - "Man in a dress accused of videotaping 18-year-old in Target fitting room"
He is a man, not a woman. It is ridiculous that "news" organizations play along with the Dem/Progressive agenda by calling this man "she".
Putting on a dress does not make a man a woman.
How insulting to women to even think that. Shame on our "news" media for going along with this craziness.

FTA - "According to the affidavit, Smith told the detective “she finds the video sexually gratifying” and when the deputy looked at the camera roll on Smith’s iPhone, he “observed a video of a young adult female undressing in a changing room at what appear to be Target. The defendant admitted to me that this video was recorded at Target.”

So he is a heterosexual man.

[Miss Marple 2]

General Flynn on The Five now.

First talking about terror fight, which seems like a repeat of what he said last night.

Guilfoyle asks about how to improve intelligence. He says we have to figure out new ways to operate, dismisses Hillary's intelligence surge as "What? We haven't been doing that already?"

[Beasts of England]

Trump Pence logo is nice looking!! I'm sure someone here can paste it for us? Please. :)

[JM Hanes]

Seems like just yesterday Erdogan & Putin were making up, too. Oh, wait.

"....seeking asylum in Germany?

LOL. Bring on the Poetry!

[daddy on iPhone]

Is Kerry in Turkey and if so has he.been taken prisoner also? I ask because back in 82 or 83 when the Guatemala Coup went down, they planned it for when the President would have been meeting with the Americans. With Kerry who is somewhere over there I think, they would know when and where Erdogan might be meeting. Just wondering. Lot to learn later

[Miss Marple 2]

MSNBC is reporting Erdogan has fled to Germany.

Of course.

[Miss Marple 2]

Ed Morrissey Retweeted
AFP news agency ‏@AFP 2m2 minutes ago

#BREAKING Strong explosion heard in Turkish capital Ankara: AFP
450 retweets 31 likes

[Janet the expert]

I hope that SOB is running from village to cave to hidey-hole like Saddam.

Are you talking about Hillary or Erdogan?

Hahahaaa!!! Too funny!!

[Miss Marple 2]

‏@BBassem7 19m19 minutes ago

Turkish army attacking Erdogan's shabeeha in the capital #Ankara
#Turkey #Coup
------------------------

I don't know what a shabeeha is. Maybe that big palace he built?

[Janet the expert]

What Islamist is NOT heading to Germany?

[henry]

Daddy, Kerry was blubbering about wanting a safe and stable Turkey, so he too is on the loose -- I don't think he was talking about his dinner.

[Miss Marple 2]

avi issacharoff
‏@issacharoff

Sky news Arabic: Turkish chief of staff killed

[Miss Marple 2]

TheLastRefuge ‏@TheLastRefuge2 10s10 seconds ago

To hell with everything else - I demand to see Obama's butt hurt reaction to Turkey on TV tonight. #BestSummerEver

[Janet the expert]

One more link "on topic" that I put up on FB
The video at this link is too sad & pitiful. It is alarming that our society is so fallen that we can't even tell this sick man THE TRUTH.

It is disgraceful that the "news" media participate in this agenda by referring to Sean Smith as "she". Sean Patrick Smith is a man.
He needs help, not lies that validate his delusions.
The video at the link is very sad.
It made me mindful of these Biblical truths:
*God created you - Psalm 139:13-16
*God knows you - Psalm 139:1-4, Romans 3:23
*God loves you - Romans 5:8, John 3:16
*God will help you - Psalm 86:5-7, Psalm 91:14-16, Acts 16:30,31
That is true for Sean Smith, it is true for me, & it is true for every individual.

http://www.eastidahonews.com/2016/07/documents-detail-alleged-voyeurism-incident-ammon-target/

[Miss Marple 2]

Richard Engel reports US intelligence caught flat-footed and are scrambling to an emergency meeting.

I see that the Turkish military is smart, plotted outside social media, kept Obama out of the loop, and ta-da!

I sort of want to see Obama's butt-hurt response, myself.

[Miss Marple 2]

Erdogan is in an airplane refused landing in Istanbul, and is trying to get asylum in Germany,says Stratfor. #Turkey

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I hope the Krauts give Erdogan the it's-rude-to-rape-Germans talk before he gets off the plane.

[Beasts of England]

Sent Trump Pence a hundred bucks. It's a joint contribution to the RNC, but Priebus has been one of the few the adults in the room, so no heartache there.

Better get back on the water - my BAC is getting dangerously low... 😎

[Porchlight]

Well, this gets the released 28 pages of 9/11 documents off the front page.

Also Day of Rage - which is probably good news.

[JM Hanes]

Miss Marple:

Very interesting article on Turkey -- and some seriously screwed up shit there. Just imagine 2.7 million refugess being granted a legal "right to employment" -- provisions which "have been much delayed and still face problems being implemented." I bet.

[Miss Marple 2]

With social media shut down, Erdogan was foced to give a statement on Facetime.

And it froze with a "poor connection" message.

[Captain Hate]

Speaking of mentally ill freaks and their enablers:

http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/07/chelsea-manning/490901/

He, mentally ill Bradley who thinks he should be named after The Omen which is as unfeminine as you can get, tried to kill himself. The MFM numbnuts aren't doing him any favors by playing along with his fantasies. In fact they should probably be named in a court action to cease and desist with making him even more nuts. Idiots!