Trump's Speech

Trump's speech was longer, louder and less spontaneous than I expected. Did the new, scripted, disciplined Donald change any minds? Are there minds left to change? This was sort of like tuning in to a hockey game and seeing, well, hockey. With no brawls, and who wants that?

And the speech was so dark. Criminals are going to kill you. Immigrants are going to take your job and kill you. ISIS is going to totally kill you, except Trump will kill them faster.

Somewhere, "Let's Make America Great Again" drifted to "Let's Make America Stop Sucking So Hard". Or, "It's Mourning in America".

Well. Let's Make Speeches Grate Again. Sorry - LET'S MAKE SPEECHES GRATE AGAIN! Yikes.

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[Jack is Back!]

Missed it. But hear he gave Castro a run for his money in its length.

[Theo]

I don't think that I was the target audience and I did not watch it, but some of the excerpts that I read were pretty good.

[Theo]

The best Twitter line of the night was I think when it went past the 1 hour mark and someone tweeted "Make America's Speeches Stop Again."

[Tonto]

I saw that the Times characterized Trump's speech as "dark." However, Michael Goodwin, FORMER Times reporter, favored the adjective "Sweeping." Goodwin (Pulitzer Prize winner) left the Times for the NY Post. His stories (and those of practically every journalist who couldn't stomach the place anymore) about how insular and parochial it is over at the Times might make you less reflexively accept their POV -- and it's a single POV -- as credible, much less gospel.

[RattlerGator]

Tom, I'm intrigued by the assertions of darkness in the speech -- almost as if the analysis of the speech occurs in a vacuum completely devoid of current events.

That is odd as hell to me.

What was remarkable to me was his effective outreach to normalize the inclusion of gays. Not a gay agenda, but normalizing the inclusion of gays in *our* convention address.

Isn't that more striking than any perceived darkness?

What was additionally remarkable to me Ivanka's introduction speech that had Democrats screaming she was at the wrong convention. That very moment on Twitter, when I saw so many of those types of tweets, was when I knew she had been *very* effective in making serious inroads to women who've been told Trump is a monster.

Overall, I thought he did what so many Americans do these days; he talked from a place that contemplates the Presidency too much as a domestic action figure. Among our three branches of government, Congress is first among equals -- especially on domestic matters.

I'm hoping he's very clear about that (I think he is), works with Congress to rein in the regulating craziness of Executive Branch agencies, and puts to use his comprehension of the art of the deal to re-imagine the Executive Branch back to what it should be. We'll need quite a bit of that and his Presidency can only be the start of that very long process.

That said, the subliminal messages all week have worked, or so it seems to me, and they aren't being discussed or acknowledged nearly enough in the immediate aftermath of what was probably a very historic moment.

That introductory Trump video? Masterful. Wasn't it?

Darkness, Tom? That speech? At a convention where we feared crazy attacks, shootings, and anarchist protests?

No, no, no. When the totality of the circumstances are considered, I think not.

[Thomas Collins]

Perhaps Team Trump had a focus group and was testing various parts of the speech, with the parts getting the most positive response to be used in campaign ads and YouTube clips. With respect to the tone, as much as the post modern mentality wants to deny or ignore the situation, killing people who want to kill you before they accomplish the task is a sound approach.

[DebinNC]

I bet most Americans believe we're living in very dark times. Looking forward to the Dems' "Pollyanna does Philly" attempt to convince voters the past 8 years have been our best ever.

[boris]

I see the dark that Trump speaks of.

Maybe those who do not see it (or deny it) focus on that but it was not the point of the speech or the highlight, or the purpose.

What some call the dark I would call "the flood".

When the river floods all able bodied people in the town are expected to pitch in making dikes or filling sandbags. It is necessarily a collective process directed by some capable person in authority. Doesn't have to be a messiah or a genius, just has to know what needs to be done and how to do it.

[Thomas Collins]

Meanwhile, back in prog land, it looks as if common sense will prevail over the loonies in the Veep pick, and that Tim Kaine will be the one. If so, TeamHill will have made a smart choice.

[henry]

Well, "dark" is the MSM meme on the speech. (didn't watch it).

[Centralcal on iPad]

Very happy that Cleveland was a great host to the convention and that nothing really ever got out of hand. All I have read are raves about Cleveland hospitality. Maryrose is thrilled, I am sure.

I only watched snippets of the convention over the past 4 days. Trump children are impressive. I made it through 20 minutes of the Trump speech tonight - sounds like it went on for a very long time more.

[Old Lurker]

Maryrose was correct in predicting a good show, wasn't she?

[Theo]

It seems to me that the party out of power always needs to tamp into the discontents in society (and the way people are, there are ALWAYS discontents) and the party in power always wants to say "things are great and only getting better."

Which is why a third term is always so hard for any party. The discontents accumulate. You can win a second term by running against the people you beat four years ago -- "remember how bad it was under [GW Bush] [J Carter]? You don't want to go back THERE now do you?" -- but after a while its hard to do that.

Which is why I think that Rodham should have lost this election. She has to sell Obama's third term but with her baggage and personality.

Maybe the speech was too dark. Maybe a lot of people don't think that things are THAT bad. But my guess is that the journalists covering the speech are happier with the status quo than the people hearing it.

[henry]

theo,

"four feet good"

"Trump speech dark"

"Obama is great speaker"

all pre-approved journolist bs.

[Buckeye]

Which is why I think that Rodham should have lost this election.

Freudian slip or do you know something we don't?

[James D]

Uh, Trump's speech was dark? The GOP is the party tapping into discontent and making things sound worse than they are?

The Democrat message is:
America is an evil racist society. And also homophobic. And Islamophobic. Basically, we are intolerant, bigoted monsters who hate everyone, everywhere.

Police regularly murder upstanding young black men for no reason at all.

Wealth inequality has created a new feudal order of greedy, inhuman capitalist overlords.

Student loan debt is destroying the lives of an entire generation.

All young men are rapists; most young women who to college will be raped.

This is what Hillary and Bernie (and Obama, and the MSM) regularly tell us.

But, yeah, it's Trump and the GOP who are the dark and gloomy ones. Sure thing.

[boris]

"a lot of people don't think that things are THAT bad"

"When they came for the guns we didn't speak up because taking guns wasn't THAT bad ...

When they came for the Scott Walker supporters in the night we didn't speak up because intimidating Scott Walker supporters wasn't THAT bad ...

When they ..."

[Jack is Back! (As Mr. Fixit)]

We have a new Black man shot by White cop incident in North Miami but with a strange scenario. The man of color was a caregiver at a local institution for the mentally disabled. One of his charges, autistic man, was sitting in the middle of the road playing with a toy. Caregiver goes out to calm him and bring him back inside. Someone calls the cops that there is gun. Caregiver lays down with hands up and a cop shoots him in the leg.

The cop's explanation is verging on the doubtful but possible.

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/New-Video-Shows-Moments-Before-and-After-Man-Was-Shot-by-North-Miami-Police-Officer-387716761.html

[Jack is Back! (As Mr. Fixit)]

More weirdness: What humans would have to look like in order to survive a high speed car crash.

Meet Graham:)

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/07/this-is-what-humans-would-look-like-if-they-evolved-to-survive-car-crashes/?utm_content=buffer1b7e6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=buffer-gizmodouktw

[Theo]

JamesD --

You make a good point, similar to the one that I was making. Rodham and the Democrats are a bit in a box. They need to get their people whipped and enthused about things, but for every problem they raise -- police killing blacks for no reason, wealth inequality, crippling student loans, predatory sexual males roaming our campuses -- at some point the response is "okay, you have been in power the last 8 years, why haven't you fixed it?"

And the answer comes back that it is those EVIIIIIIIIIL Republicans in Congress who are refusing to vote in the wonderful solutions that we have proposed. And then the question is how is electing Rodham going to solve that if the great Barack Obama could not?

In the end, they have to say that things may be bad but they would be even worse under a Republican president. They might even believe it, but it's not very inspiring.

[DebinNC]

North Miami will be funding that guy's early retirement to anywhere he chooses. No excuse whatsoever for that imo.

[Janet the expert]

Amen James D. @ 8:41. AMEN!!

I wrote this after the Dem. debate back in Feb. - Awful America

"It is kinda odd listening to Democrat politicians listing who & what all is awful in America.
They make big blanket statements that "Americans" are racists & sexist & homophobic. Not THEM, mind you, but some other "Americans".
Then they get more specific - Police are awful. Gun lobbies, Koch brothers, businesses, wall street, pharmaceutical companies, the fossil fuel industry, big banks, insurance companies, college age men, ... All are dangerous & terrible.

Hillary Clinton even listed her enemies to Anderson Cooper back in Oct. 2015 - CLINTON: "Well, in addition to the NRA, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the Iranians; probably the Republicans."

Then when Dems talk about citizens of other countries...well, they are all great. They appeal to us racist, sexist, homophobic, hateful Americans to embrace & take care of all the wonderful people from other countries.

Ya gotta wonder why those terrific people from other countries even want to come here. We're just awful...our businesses & industries are awful. Our police are killing everyone, male college students are raping everyone, & our country is a polluted mess with lousy, crumbling infrastructure."

[buccaneer morgan]

A world where one of red queen's fans guns down 50 people, and the likely conspirator disappears off the face of the earth, where another sees fit to shoot down five cops, another three in one location, across the seas, a fireworks display is a lethal possibility.

[cheerleader]

No, it's not "the new scripted, disciplined Donald".

He said exactly all the same things he's been saying in his stump speeches over and over and over again.

What is different is that people heard him and all his basic talking points rolled into one bundle, with their own ears, for the first time.

It only seems different because full speeches sound much different than little snips published here and there by the nasty propaganda press which habitually twists and distorts out of context words to further its deceitful purposes.

[henry]

WSJ editorial page blaming Cruz for Trump winning. I suppose they expected Kasich to rescue their togae at the last minute or something. They rip Trump in the first editorial, then rip Cruz in the second. Oh to have the butt balm franchise for #NeverTrump.

[buccaneer morgan]

Like I say, I see the parallels with Gove and Johnson, they took up the revolt from a more principled leader like Farage, one knifed the 0ther, so far 'it's a flesh wound'

Btw, Mdmme Lafarge is now going to court, frankly I would have stuck with Kodos, DSK, he knew more economics,

[cheerleader]

The "priesthood rising" can't seem to catch a break.

[buccaneer morgan]

nothing to see here,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn9dQnRXYAEsEWh.jpg

like I say call in bryan from taken,

[buccaneer morgan]

the Gaullist are only a bit better, as that Marseilles series points out,

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/imf-chief-lagarde-stand-trial-french-arbitration-deal-40798697

but their real enemy is not the Salafi, but the French Party.

[jimmyk]

What humans would have to look like in order to survive a high speed car crash.

Looks like Michael Moore.

[RattlerGator]

Peggy Noonan pissed me off so bad in the run up to Obama that I completely swore her off. It's only now that I can review her writing again. She's clearly no Trump fan but the ending to her column this morning is noteworthy it seems to me:

It was not an eloquent speech, not lofty, very plain and blunt. It covered a lot of territory and went too long. It had no leavening humor. It is strange to see a New Yorker so uninterested in wit. It was at points too hyped and declarative, and it was sometimes grandiose.

But it was powerful. After reading a copy of the speech leaked in advance by a mischief maker, an anti-Trump conservative intellectual emailed me. “He’s going to win,” he said. The moment at least was not unknowable to him.

Quite right.

[hrtshpdbox]

Oh to have the butt balm franchise for #NeverTrump.

And, three months from now, the selective seretonin reuptake inhibitor patent for #trump2016.

[jimmyk]

The hysteria of the NYT and MSM over the speech just shows how wild their agenda is, and their realization that Trump can win. I didn't find the speech dark at all. It pointed out obvious problems with terrorism and lawlessness, but was optimistic about being able to get the country back on the right track.

But instead of addressing the substance of Trump's candidacy, the left/MSM has to make him out to be a Hitler monster, because he's got them beaten.

[jimmyk]

Someone in the last thread mentioned that Ana Navarro thought the speech was terrible. What was her problem with it? No wonder she's CNN's favorite Republican.

[buccaneer morgan]

oh that's different,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3703162/Mother-daughters-STABBED-French-holiday-resort-father-scratched-crotch.html

the Torygraph is just embarassing sometimes, specially since breeeden took it from conrad black and gave it the barclay brothers,

[Threadkiller]

Jane and I are working on an open dialog template to woo you to the somewhat pro Trump side, Hrt. At least to an anti Hilary victory side.

Lets discuss this openly and rationaly.

What is your #1 concern about Trump?

Maybe there is a perspective I can share with you that will make him more palatable.

[buccaneer morgan]

she's the latina nicolle wallace,? all of her campaigns seem to crash and burn, maverick, skin crawling huntsman, the medici,

[cheerleader]

Noonan is shallow. If she'd've listened to just one or two recordings of his stump speeches, she'd have found the missing humor. His stump speeches are always leavened with wit.

[buccaneer morgan]

thiel's right, we don't make things anymore, we've almost totally transitioned to services, and not really in the best way,

[cheerleader]

The only thing that's dark is their own prospects of winning, and they know it.

[Marlene]

jimmyk,I mentioned that I switched to CNN after the speech. Navarro was livid. She said the speech was disgusting. I assume because she thought it was anti-immigrant?

[Porchlight]

Thought the speech was great. Definitely powerful. So it was long, big deal. And slower in part because there was a lot of applause, which he was expert at not stepping on, unlike many of the other less professional speakers.

Mr. Porch was driving back from San Antonio and listening to it on his own, which is good because for some strange reason he doesn't like me trying to influence his reactions. ;) He liked it. I think he's going to vote Trump (he voted Obama in 08 and Johnson in 12).

[Porchlight]

Yes, cheerleader, most people aren't listening to his speeches regularly. They are frequently hilarious. Obviously this time he wanted to be serious. As I've said before, I wish I had a buck for every time someone criticizes Trump for not doing something he's already doing.

And remember these are the people who wanted him to be more presidential! And so he does, and then they want their clown back. Sad!

[buccaneer morgan]

remember all these people, avlon of the beast, if you wonder who steered rudy into a ditch last time, raise your hand and you rick wilson, the whole reenactors of the bernstein party at carlos slim's,
the rupert pupkin all stars, at cnn, they have been lighting torches on the cave wall for 8-10 years now,

[cheerleader]

Trump cuts through the lefty media monopoly like a knife and speaks directly to the people in their own language. He is amazed by, and often says so, how the people "get it" and can see right through the dishonest media.

[Porchlight]

Has anyone else seen this? Hillary appears to have some sort of tic or seizure. I don't know what it is but it's weird.

Videos are from two different angles. In the second you can see the reporters' reaction.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VoOnSE2oRaQ&t=1&feature=youtu.be

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=QzCQg94oOmk

[Captain Hate]

The Omen will introduce the Cackler after the women who produced Saints Traytable and Swisher attempt to not sound like barely literate monsters. The contrasts between the parties couldn't be more stark.

[GUS]

Wow Tom. The speech was "DARK"....

RACIST.

But seriously, we've been fed LIBTARD BULLSHIT for 8 years, and finally FUCKING FINALLY someone fights back and kicks the LEFT SQUARELY in the BALLS.

And you call it "dark".

Well good, I'm down with DARK.

It's always DARKEST before the DAWN.

[Porchlight]

Results of the CNN post-speech insta-poll last night. Very positive.

https://i.sli.mg/DIzrbc.png

Gotta get to work.

[JM Hanes]

TM:

"This was sort of like tuning in to a hockey game and seeing, well, hockey. With no brawls, and who wants that?"

Because this is all about the entertainment, right? It's getting harder to find something to deride, isn't it? And as for dark, the idea that help is on the way sounds downright upbeat to me. But then, anything that's not Hillary Clinton sounds great to me.

"Are there minds left to change?"

Have you not been reading the polls? Check out "undecided."

"Somewhere, 'Let's Make America Great Again' drifted to 'Let's Make America Stop Sucking So Hard'."

The implication that this is somehow drifting off message escapes me. If things didn't suck, you wouldn't need to make them great again, but you ain't heard nothing yet. Tune in next week for the suck zone extravaganza (or just see James D above).

Make speeches grate again.

Yike, indeed. I'll take this limp pun as a sign that Trump offered next to no fodder for substantive criticism.

[Porchlight]

You tell him GUS. Good to see you.

[Porchlight]

Right on, JMH!

[buccaneer morgan]

kind of like Maximus 'Are you not entertained'

[Porchlight]

The Trump candidacy has exposed so much snobbery on our side of the aisle. I suppose it was always there and I just didn't want to admit it.

[GUS]

Porch, I just got home from vacation. Wyoming. Not a LIBTARD to be found. Denver, not so much.

[Captain Hate]

Thank you, JMH. TM has been listening to Van Jones too much. Connecticut is probably a lost cause anyway. No big whoop.

[buccaneer morgan]

actually we knew it eight years ago, we just thought money and status might make a difference, but no defending [email protected] atc, puts you in the same boat,

[cheerleader]

It sounds like Hillary is copying Trump.

[Captain Hate]

GUS, Wyoming is a great state! Medicine Bow, Tetons, Yellowstone, Big Horn Mountains and Devil's Tower, just for starters! And conservative So!

[buccaneer morgan]

Pinnette serious missed the boat, it wasn't Bryan that Trump echoes, but Teddy Roosevelt, he was a man of means, a scion of industry, but with a common touch,

[GUS]

Snobbery indeed. Rodney Dangerfield would not be welcome at Greenwich Country Club.
Trump isn't Connecticut YE OLDE MONEY.
Tom, you can always vote for someone who doens't GRATE, in Rodham.
How are you going to fit in a CACKLE PUN after next week???
Oh Dear, The Skakels and the Prescott Bush's were members at GREENWICH COUNTRY CLUB.
I hear Michael Skakel was classy and was GRATE with a 5 iron.

[Captain Hate]

The Trump candidacy has exposed so much snobbery on our side of the aisle. I suppose it was always there and I just didn't want to admit it

What part of my railing about the country clubbers did you decide to tune out?

[Buckeye]

WELCOME BACK GUS.

We missed you buddy.

[Captain Hate]

Welp a successful convention hasn't brought NK back. I'd suggest jimmyk unleash the hounds to find him but he's probably playing Old Maid with TM in some gated community fallout shelter.

[GUS]

I was absolutely smitten with Wyoming. From Cheyenne to Greybull to Cody, Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, Devils tower, Rock Springs, back to Cheyenne. The State is clean, functional, and the attitude and work ethic are incredible.
I highly recommend Wyoming. Idaho is very similar, and Utah is pretty cool too. I had not been to SLC in years. Salt Lake City is beyond beautiful, the view as you drive in or out, the State Capital, the Mormon Temple, downtown food and shopping. Some lib tendancies, but nothing like Denver. I have family in suburban Denver, so I can stomach some of the crap. Colorado Springs is gorgeous too.

[BeenThereDoneThat]

Interesting isn't it , that the growing corruption so rampant in our political system and culture and its predictable wrecking-ball effect on society as a whole, REQUIRES a larger than life rescue agent with an over-sized personality to get the attention of millions of citizens who have lost all hope; one who is uniquely equipped to give them some straight-talk that factually identifies who and what the enemy REALLY is and promises to restore safety and sanity?

[Captain Hate]

Pinnette serious missed the boat

Another pesky day ending in "y".

[jimmyk]

CH, I hope NK is just busy and not in a snit over Trump.

She said the speech was disgusting. I assume because she thought it was anti-immigrant?

He didn't say anything very new. If anything he scaled back on the so-called "Muslim ban" and referred to suspending immigration from countries that have been sources of terrorism, without specifically mentioning Muslims. Yes, he talked about Kate Steinle and other incidents of crime by illegals, but that's not "anti-immigrant," that's law and order.

[squaredance]

Really spooky, eh, that seizure?

Maybe next her head will turn 360 degrees around.

[buccaneer morgan]

they said this 48 years ago with Nixon, there's nothing new under the sun, meanwhile the Big Apple festered into the ripe apocalyse in which Death Wish arose under Lindsay,

[Buckeye]

Really spooky, eh, that seizure?

Maybe next her head will turn 360 degrees around.

Praying for a Grand Mal right at the beginning of her acceptance speech.

[asw]

Jane and TK (9:49am) is is fabulous!

What is your #1 concern about Trump?

Maybe there is a perspective I can share with you that will make him more palatable.

I'm going to a big reunion this September and I will use this when ever I can. Thank you!

It really doesn't matter if the other person doesn't want to talk further because they will be primed to look for reasons Trump might be palatable to them.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

You know what just occurred to me? Obama was silent this whole week! I really thought he'd be out every day making some pronouncement or critisism of the Repub convention.

[clarice]

James D, Jimmy K--exactly so.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--And the speech was so dark.--

70+ percent of the country believes we are on the wrong track.
Labor participation rate at decades long lows.
Weakest economic recovery, possibly in history.
Racial tensions higher than they've been in decades as the Dems have intended.
Terrorist attacks increasing domestically and crime threatening to do the same.
The nation in retreat and a laughing stock worldwide as our enemies run rings around us even as Barry sidles up to them.
Most importantly, a contemptuous, contemptible, criminal, corrupt, conceited, condescending creep of almost unimaginable scale trying to get her filthy hooks on the levers of power and graft and to inflict a quite probably mortal wound to our country through packing the SCOTUS with constitution hating leftists.

I would question Trump's sanity if the speech wasn't dark in describing our current dilemma.

But the overall theme was not dark at all.
The whole thing was fairly reminiscent of Reagan's Morning in America. He too detailed the catastrophe his opponents had created and offered a way out by returning to America's inherent historical strengths.

Jane needs to stage an intervention for TM.

[Captain Hate]

CH, I hope NK is just busy and not in a snit over Trump.

50/50. He has a busy real life but seemed unduly upset at how nobody would regard him as the 100% authority on what a terrible choice Trump would be. He's pulled disappearing acts before so maybe it's 60/40.

[Beasts of England]

And anti-Trump conservative intellectual? Assumes facts not in evidence!!

[buccaneer morgan]

he made some stupid Panglossian statement about less violence in the world, some days ago, but generally Zaphod had lessened his opportunities to 'remove all doubt'

[Buckeye]

No doubt Trump's speech didn't resonate in DC and the blue hell holes.

Who cares if Hillary gets 70% instead of 60% of California?

I can assure you it went over just fine with working class majorities in the battleground states.

This is were the battle lines are being drawn.

[clarice]

Someone toss cold water on ™--he seems overheated.

[Buckeye]

This is where

[sbw]

I am sure that Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren would be ready to step in, for the good of the country, should Hillary have medical issues before her convention coronation.

[Beasts of England]

GUS!

[Captain Hate]

You know what just occurred to me? Obama was silent this whole week! I really thought he'd be out every day making some pronouncement or criticism of the Repub convention

He's been stewing ever since all his crap backfired and the Day of Rage was a big fat nothing. He has to give a speech next week to convince everybody that it somehow wasn't his fault that the last seven years haven't been a disaster.

[Janet the expert]

Trump's negative points in his speech were about the failures of our federal government.

Dems negative points are about how lousy Americans are....& how lousy American businesses are.

[buccaneer morgan]

our host has a dry sense of humor, hence the gladiator quote,

[Captain Hate]

Have been a disaster

[Texas Liberty Gal]

CH - Thx for correcting my spelling of criticism. Where is spell check when you need it?

[Appalled]

TM:

The speech was dark. The times feel pretty dark right now, and Trump, who is savvy about his media image. may feel that sunniness doesn't fit the times and who he is.

The thing about Trump is not whether he can make a good speech. He just made one. This, for example:

America is a nation of believers, dreamers, and strivers that is being led by a group of censors, critics, and cynics.

Remember: all of the people telling you that you can’t have the country you want, are the same people telling you that I wouldn’t be standing here tonight. No longer can we rely on those elites in media, and politics, who will say anything to keep a rigged system in place.

If I could synthesize what I read here in the comments, it would look something like those lines. As a matter of fact, I agree with those sentiments, and I think folks like TM and Theo do as well.

The problem is that Donald Trump's America does not include second or third generation Americans of Mexican heritage, or someone who believes in Islam, no matter how long their family has lived here. Heck, the Donald's America really does not include people who don't like him, or didn't like him in the past. And an America that excludes these folks really isn't America at all.

[Buckeye]

Interesting that Zero campaigned only 1 day with the hag.

Do you think they will put it in the top gear after the convention?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Have to admit to a different take on Hillary's "seizure".
She turned around to a camera or recorder shoved right in her face and several people yapping questions at her and did a couple of quadruple takes to emphasize her surprise.

It struck me more as the actions of other socially retarded people I've known. People like Hillary are in some ways aliens. Their minds and/or personalities are so messed up that there is nothing truly natural about them or how they interact. It's all a performance as they try to mimic normal human behavior. Some people like her husband and Obama are a little more accomplished at it. Some like my brother and the robotic Hillary are not and the results are sometimes truly bizarre.
It's one reason she'll never be president; America may be ready for its first woman president but not its first woman Martian.

[jimmyk on iPhone]

So true, Janet. Trump spoke "darkly" about criminals and our enemies. Democrats speak darkly about ... Republicans.

[Buckeye]

He's been stewing ever since all his crap backfired and the Day of Rage was a big fat nothing. He has to give a speech next week to convince everybody that it somehow wasn't his fault that the last seven years haven't been a disaster.

Every day these pukes spend on the defensive is a good day.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

How Many People Were Shot by Open-Carriers at the RNC?

Obama greatly disappointed

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/07/22/how-many-people-were-shot-by-open-carriers-at-the-rnc/

[buccaneer morgan]

ralph alvarado was from sweden then, there was a moslem who gave an invocation, he has a Lebanese christian as one of his advisers, he's done business with saudi princes, and azeri oligarchs,

[MaryD]

Great essay by Charles Koch in the WSJ:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-closing-of-the-american-mind-1469141624

[Porchlight]

What part of my railing about the country clubbers did you decide to tune out?

Cap'n, I meant that as a comment on our genial host, who I'm sure means well, but seems to be more and more into the CT kool-aid.

Actually Trump was tied with Shill in the last Quinny CT poll, I think. Or Monmouth or Suffolk, can't remember.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

ugh - Trump is on TV now dissing Cruz - why? Just shut up about it. One of the things I really don't like about Trump. He's just being a jerk. Surprised he lets Cruz get under his skin like that.

[Porchlight]

He has a busy real life but seemed unduly upset at how nobody would regard him as the 100% authority on what a terrible choice Trump would be.

Love and miss NK, but that sounds about right.

[buccaneer morgan]

but no he's not likely to invite for instance someone who allowed a fatwa on gays, just a few months ago, the issuer of which was kicked out of australia,