This time around I am not falling into the trap of disbelieving ALL the polls.
Secretly, I do hope to be proven wrong, and I am getting very annoyed by everybody telling me the race is all but lost.
That said, the Ledge is undergoing expansion and I am considering adding a third diving board so that we can empty it out more quickly should that time come.
In the past, I would have eagerly read a story that begins "A pair of leading House Republicans on Monday laid out detailed instructions for the Justice Department to file perjury charges against Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton."
Any chance you can substitute one of those water slides for a 3rd board? My knee won't allow me to spring off the board in November but I can do the slide with ease:)
Reposting from the last threat - re: the link Janet posted about the latest DNC leaks...
If I were the RNC (or Trump, for that matter), I'd run an ad with an Obama sound-alike reading one of those emails or documents - this bit in particular:
In Florida’s 10th district, for example, where four Democrats are vying to replace Republican Rep. Daniel Webster, the DCCC papers single out one candidate: Bob Poe, who the documents note could be viewed as “anti-black lives matter/pro-police” and as “too conservative among other progressive Democrats.”
I'd have the voice speaking over scenes of riots, smashed windows, businesses burning, etc.
And then I'd end it with "These views brought to you by the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton."
Florida is my permanent residence and domicile. But I maintain my family home in Southampton and am here now while the Florida one is under major renvoations inside and outside. Mrs. JiB's Opus Major will not be denied:)
Secretly, I do hope to be proven wrong, and I am getting very annoyed by everybody telling me the race is all but lost.
I made the mistake yesterday of clicking on the Althouse link. My God, she's gone completely off the deep end. A whole post fantasizing about Trump dropping out of the race. Fortunately many of her commenters are still sane.
Another story on the banker's dilemma facing pensions and insurance companies.
Promised obligations require X number of dollars. Only yield remotely returning any significant fraction of X exists in long term bonds. They sink all their dough in long term bonds, prices rise, rates dip; X grows further out of reach.
Solution? Buy more long term bonds.
Math hardest hit.
Sorry for the length but did any of you know about the 1904 Olympic marathon?
From Wikipedia
The marathon was the most bizarre event of the Games. It was run in brutally hot weather, over dusty roads, with horses and automobiles clearing the way and creating dust clouds. The first to arrive at the finish line was Frederick Lorz, who actually rode the rest of the way in a car to retrieve his clothes, after dropping out after nine miles. The car broke down at the 19th mile, so he re-entered the race and jogged back to the finish line. When the officials thought he had won the race, Lorz played along with his practical joke until he was found out shortly after the medal ceremony and was banned for a year by the AAU for this stunt, later winning the 1905 Boston Marathon.
Thomas Hicks (a Briton running for the United States) was the first to cross the finish-line legally, after having received from his trainers several doses of strychnine sulfate (a common rat poison, which stimulates the nervous system in small doses) mixed with brandy. He was supported by his trainers when he crossed the finish, but is still considered the winner. Hicks had to be carried off the track, and possibly would have died in the stadium had he not been treated by several doctors. A Cuban postman named Felix Carbajal joined the marathon, arriving at the last minute. He had to run in street clothes that he cut around the legs to make them look like shorts. He stopped off in an orchard en route to have a snack on some apples which turned out to be rotten. The rotten apples caused him to have to lie down and take a nap. Despite falling ill from the apples, he finished in fourth place.
The marathon included the first two black Africans to compete in the Olympics: two Tswana tribesmen named Len Tau (real name: Len Taunyane) and Yamasani (real name: Jan Mashiani). They were not in St. Louis to compete in the Olympics, however; they were actually part of the sideshow. They had been brought over by the exposition as part of the Boer War exhibit (both were really students from Orange Free State in South Africa, but this fact was not made known to the public). Len Tau finished ninth and Yamasani came in twelfth. This was a disappointment, as many observers were sure Len Tau could have done better if he had not been chased nearly a mile off course by aggressive dogs.
Arriving without correct documents, Frenchman Arthur Coray was not included as part of the French team. He is inconsistently listed as performing in a mixed team in the four mile team race and performing for the US in the marathon.
It's not all but lost, OL. It's actually very similar to pre-convention status, namely, that Trump is the clear underdog but not a hopeless one. Keep in mind that if the national polls tighten up, so will the battleground states' polls. The problem is the same as it's always been, namely, although Oligarch Media bias and Dem ads, fraud and get out the vote aren't everything, they present a daunting challenge for Trump (and would have for any GOP nominee).
There have been a lot of twists and turns so far, and there will be more for sure.
Now that we are inching up on potential retirement (or when I say screw it, which ever comes first), Mrs. Buckeye is toying with the idea of building something or a major renovation if we find an existing property in the "right location".
Why do I have this sinking feeling that either my marriage, my wallet, or both may not survive it?
Grandson stopped by on his way down to IU. He is moving into an apartment with 3 other guys today.
That kid is going places. He is keeping his one job at the museum, working for the Colts, and will get another job in Bloomington to pay for his phone bill. He also has an ap on his phone that rounds his expenditures up and invests the difference.
I am so proud of him! I am sorry I don't get to see him as much as when he was in high school, but he is doing great in college and is thinking of studying abroad a year from now - in Australia, I am happy to day.
MM's 11:03 link is very perceptive.
The problem I see for Trump is not Hillary, it is the press, which has fairly successfully created the "Trump temperament" theme based mostly on spin and misrepresentations.
How does a bombastic, combative guy respond to claims he is overly bombastic and combative?
One thing about General Hayden it was his department's job to decode the message from bin al shibh to the hijackers, one of the dots missed in the great tapestry,
National news already has, spending time on Rudy’s talk where he said eight years before Obama had no major radical Islamic event. 9/11 was seven years ago so they riffed on Rudy "forgetting" 9/11.
Beat me to it, jimmyk; exactly what I would've said except I was planning on using "asset" instead of "virtue" which, in retrospect, I think you stated better.
While I wouldn't put it past the Dems to be colluding with the pollsters, since they seem to be colluding with everyone else on the planet including the GOPe, I'm going to assume the polls are legit until proven otherwise. I'm just wondering about the models they are using. If the models are based on past voting patterns, would they be picking up traditional blue collar dems who might be switching parties for the first time in their lives, or people who've never voted before but say they'll be voting now? If the pollsters are getting responses out of whack with their models, maybe they're discounting the data or doing some re-allocating. We already know that Reuters is "allocating" neither responses to heavily favor Clinton because they admitted as much. Are they the only ones fiddling with the numbers to meet their preconceived expectations?
Of course, for all we know there are few Dem blue collar voters going for Trump and the unlikely voters will stay home again. But if there were shifts in the voting patterns, I'm just wondering if the pollsters' models would pick up on it, and if they did would they accept the data they were getting?
Lets see; the CIA gave Bush and congress their best assessment of Saddam's WMD which Bush and congress relied on and that led to "Bush lied, people died!"
Greetings, JOM'ers, how goes the good fight? This may very well have been discussed here, but as regards Glenn Beck's conversion on Black Lives Matter... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/15/glenn-beck-urges-conservatives-to-understand-black-lives-matter/
... I think Beck is right, and the pie analogy he makes is sound. He's right in that the majority group (whites) can be (are almost guaranteed to be) oblivious to how difficult it can be to be a minority (black). If whites sincerely tried to "walk in the shoes" of a minority, they'd more likely appreciate that a phrase like "all lives matters" is irrelevant when most lives are already treated as if they matter, and it's principally the minorities who get the short end of the stick. That's the concept, anyway and, like I said, I think it has merit - there's still a long way to go to eradicate racism in this country, and it would be lovely if that happened. But the ball doesn't move forward if whites can't even acknowledge that, seeing as how the injustice of discrimination has affected blacks in the United States for more than two hundred years, it's not unreasonable that some blacks are going to feel defensive when they see what they perceive to be violence unjustly meted out by law enforcement. Even though data indicates that police are actually less likely to shoot at blacks than whites, and even though the black percentage of crime greatly exceeds their percentage of being shot - if blacks want to think otherwise, that it's all part of the man's lies, just leave them be to think that; they've got a right, so to speak. In an ideal world, blacks could still be courted by Republicans, as blacks share some of the social values of the party (they're overwhelmingly anti same-sex marriage, for instance), and blacks could conceivably tire at any time of the bum's rush they've gotten for decades from their supposed saviors, the Democrats.
Pity that "black lives matter" as a term is so much more benign than the organization Black Lives Matter, who feel obliged to accuse Israel of "apartheid" in their platform... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/15/black-lives-matters-anti-israel-platform-blindside/
I don't know if the platform identifies New York City as "Hymietown" - could be. So, certainly, the duplicity of the organization sets back any hope that examination and discussion of the term "black lives matter" might actually help heal the rifts between blacks and whites.
I remember how, for too brief a period, blacks and whites marched together and spoke with one common voice - it lasted for a few days after the 9/11 attack. As Americans, we were ll pissed, and that's a beautiful thing (everyone united, not being pissed!). Hucksters on both "sides" (those who use a provocative phrase to advance a far-left agenda, for instance) , those who divide (and Obama is one, improving race relations is something he actually could have done if he'd wanted to), and citizens who won't try to empathize with their fellow human beings - all of that sets us back.
Why do I want to walk in their shoes when the day after a black cop kills a black guy, the deceased's sister calls for her fellow travelers to go burn white neighborhoods? Sorry - not interested.
In an ideal world, blacks could still be courted by Republicans
Like Romney and McCain making a once every four years journey to the NAACP where they turn the party into a piñata for a group that nobody in the black community cares about? I can almost guarantee Trump will get a higher percentage of black votes than those two pandering fools. The GOP always pays lip service to that and then doesn't change from failed tactics.
heartshaped box, you can make all kinds of conciliatory gestures and mouth sweet platitudes, but they'd be wasted gestures, because they would never be enough. The agitators (and the money to fund them) of the BLM come from far left wing globalist sources like George Soros and those agitators will ensure that the mob will never be satisfied. That is the whole point. The agitators want the chaos and the anger and the violence to continue because their goal is to break the system so that they can assume tyrannical power. They don't want racial harmony--rather the opposite, and they will continue to stir up trouble even if they have to use a black cop shooting an armed career criminal to do so.
And to say that the data shows blacks are less likely to be shot than whites are, but we should allow blacks to believe otherwise and respect that belief anyway is madness - and pandering of the worst sort.
I absolutely think there is a problem with police violence, but it is a POLICE problem, not a racial problem. Or, more basically, a HUMAN problem, and this Black Lives Matter garbage does NOTHING to address that.
And of course, a much larger problem is that the BLM movement is supported and funded by the very people who have turned so many black communities into unlivable crapholes over the last 50 years, so there's that, too.
--Even though data indicates that police are actually less likely to shoot at blacks than whites, and even though the black percentage of crime greatly exceeds their percentage of being shot - if blacks want to think otherwise, that it's all part of the man's lies, just leave them be to think that; they've got a right, so to speak.--
OK, but the rest of us have a right not to live in that fantasy land or pretend it's real.
There is no empathy in granting fairy tales which lead people down destructive, self indulgent paths of dependency, grievance and irresponsibility.
Clinton cannot win the expectations game in advance of the first clash, which will be held at Hofstra University on Sept. 26. The former secretary of State is a formidable debater who has been in public life for a quarter-century, and she is going up against a man who has never run for office before. Anything less than a clear-cut win for her is likely to be seen as a positive for Trump.
Trump has been emphasizing that he wants the country made safer and more prosperous for ALL people, that we are ONE people, Americans.
I don't suppose you bothered to listen to his speech, yesterday, hrtshpdbox, but it was a vision of the country that we haven't heard in some time.
Glenn Beck is fond of setting himself as our moral better. He is as much a divider as Obama, and I suggest you go read some of the things he wrote about George Bush. The man is consumed both with his own moral superiority and a consummate male jealousy of those who are more successful and popular than he.
I am not interested in his opinion. I particularly am not interested in Black Lives Matter since it is a Soros- funded organization using people of the inner city as cannon fodder to promote Soros' Open Society agenda by creating a climate of violence, fear, and chaos.
Reposting from previous thread: How free is your state?
http://www.freedominthe50states.org
Posted by: Jack is Back! | August 16, 2016 at 09:27 AM
This time around I am not falling into the trap of disbelieving ALL the polls.
Secretly, I do hope to be proven wrong, and I am getting very annoyed by everybody telling me the race is all but lost.
That said, the Ledge is undergoing expansion and I am considering adding a third diving board so that we can empty it out more quickly should that time come.
Posted by: Old Lurker | August 16, 2016 at 09:28 AM
In the past, I would have eagerly read a story that begins "A pair of leading House Republicans on Monday laid out detailed instructions for the Justice Department to file perjury charges against Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton."
Today, I didn't even click on it.
Posted by: Old Lurker | August 16, 2016 at 09:31 AM
Don't worry, OL - Trey Gowdy is really gonna get her this time!! ;)
Posted by: Beasts of England | August 16, 2016 at 09:35 AM
OL,
Any chance you can substitute one of those water slides for a 3rd board? My knee won't allow me to spring off the board in November but I can do the slide with ease:)
/ABH
Posted by: Jack is Back! | August 16, 2016 at 09:36 AM
I know Beasts. Why does the cartoon of Wiley Coyote jumping out from under the falling safe pop into my head when I think of Trey?
Posted by: Old Lurker | August 16, 2016 at 09:38 AM
Good suggestion, Jack.
I think I can do a slide that ends about ten stories above the sharp rocks placed beneath the diving board. You can have a pleasant slide until then.
Posted by: Old Lurker | August 16, 2016 at 09:40 AM
Ace calls it 'Failure Theater'. He's correct.
Posted by: Beasts of England | August 16, 2016 at 09:43 AM
Narciso, keep you eye out for a message / email from our Chicago friend.
Posted by: henry | August 16, 2016 at 09:44 AM
Today, I didn't even click on it.
I hear ya, OL. Same here.
FB has an "On this day" feature to see old posts. Illegal immigration, corruption, emails, the IRS, EPA,...
Same stuff year after year.
The corruption is overwhelming & nothing happens. Now with the new media more things come to light....but nothing happens or changes.
Posted by: Janet | August 16, 2016 at 09:49 AM
JiB
Looking at the ranking for freedom by state.
No surprise that Ohio sucks.
Is your permanent residence the place in Florida?
Posted by: Buckeye | August 16, 2016 at 09:54 AM
"The corruption is overwhelming & nothing happens."
Janet, I think Gibbons said something similar about the Roman Empire in its last days.
Posted by: Old Lurker | August 16, 2016 at 10:01 AM
We're 49! We're 49!
Eighth from the bottom; not so bad.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | August 16, 2016 at 10:08 AM
No surprise that Ohio sucks.
Nor that the mailman's son has done a damn thing to make it better.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 16, 2016 at 10:22 AM
Reposting from the last threat - re: the link Janet posted about the latest DNC leaks...
If I were the RNC (or Trump, for that matter), I'd run an ad with an Obama sound-alike reading one of those emails or documents - this bit in particular:
In Florida’s 10th district, for example, where four Democrats are vying to replace Republican Rep. Daniel Webster, the DCCC papers single out one candidate: Bob Poe, who the documents note could be viewed as “anti-black lives matter/pro-police” and as “too conservative among other progressive Democrats.”
I'd have the voice speaking over scenes of riots, smashed windows, businesses burning, etc.
And then I'd end it with "These views brought to you by the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton."
Posted by: James D | August 16, 2016 at 10:22 AM
I couldn't link last night, about jenneke, coming up on wednesday, I put it in the lun,
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | August 16, 2016 at 10:22 AM
Trey is the spokesman for Acme Products International.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 16, 2016 at 10:24 AM
Señor Imam-a-gone
#ThanksTrump
Posted by: Threadkiller | August 16, 2016 at 10:24 AM
FB has an "On this day" feature to see old posts. Illegal immigration, corruption, emails, the IRS, EPA,...
Same stuff year after year.
That GOP Congress has really pushed back against Zippy. Shocking that Trump gets anybody at his rallies.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 16, 2016 at 10:27 AM
Buckeye,
Florida is my permanent residence and domicile. But I maintain my family home in Southampton and am here now while the Florida one is under major renvoations inside and outside. Mrs. JiB's Opus Major will not be denied:)
Posted by: Jack is Back! | August 16, 2016 at 10:28 AM
maybe they have gone crazy over there,
https://www.rt.com/news/356125-austria-train-knife-attack/
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | August 16, 2016 at 10:30 AM
Señor Imam-a-gone
Please tell me he's here illegally.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 16, 2016 at 10:30 AM
That would be something, CH.
Posted by: Threadkiller | August 16, 2016 at 10:33 AM
Who is "Señor Imam-a-gone", pls?
Posted by: squaredance | August 16, 2016 at 10:33 AM
Secretly, I do hope to be proven wrong, and I am getting very annoyed by everybody telling me the race is all but lost.
I made the mistake yesterday of clicking on the Althouse link. My God, she's gone completely off the deep end. A whole post fantasizing about Trump dropping out of the race. Fortunately many of her commenters are still sane.
Posted by: jimmyk | August 16, 2016 at 10:33 AM
I presume that's the dark-skinned White Hispanic who offed the Imam and his assistant in Queens.
Posted by: jimmyk | August 16, 2016 at 10:34 AM
That is the white Hispanic that whacked the Imam in NYC, Sq.
Posted by: Threadkiller | August 16, 2016 at 10:35 AM
Another story on the banker's dilemma facing pensions and insurance companies.
Promised obligations require X number of dollars. Only yield remotely returning any significant fraction of X exists in long term bonds. They sink all their dough in long term bonds, prices rise, rates dip; X grows further out of reach.
Solution? Buy more long term bonds.
Math hardest hit.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | August 16, 2016 at 10:39 AM
"Mrs. JiB's Opus Major will not be denied"
Careful readers, particularly the men who have been married a long time, are too kind to remind JiB that this began as a simple kitchen upgrade...
Just sayin.
Posted by: Old Lurker | August 16, 2016 at 10:40 AM
That would be something, CH.
That shirt looks like a work uniform; pest control would be appropriate.
La Raza versus CAIR would cause local popcorn shortages.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 16, 2016 at 10:44 AM
Debbie Does the DNC-Schultz;
“The work we did to prepare for Hillary Clinton, to be our nominee and then make sure that we could get her elected president, is absolutely critical to advancing the issues that are important,”
Bernie likes the ball gag, just fine, so long as he gets his new house.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | August 16, 2016 at 10:45 AM
I made the mistake yesterday of clicking on the Althouse link. My God, she's gone completely off the deep end.
It's a short trip, right at the end of her driveway.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 16, 2016 at 10:46 AM
He kind of looks like Trump. Especially the hair.
Posted by: GUS | August 16, 2016 at 10:48 AM
US industrial production falls y-o-y for 11th consecutive month.

Longest non recessionary span in history.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | August 16, 2016 at 10:49 AM
projection is what's all three meals of the day,
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/08/15/former-brigadier-general-presidents-briefer-told-centcom-official-to-skew-intel-on-isis/
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | August 16, 2016 at 10:54 AM
This CHICO and the IMAM, story??? It seems that the media doesn't CAIR about the story anymore???
Que pasa??
Posted by: GUS | August 16, 2016 at 10:56 AM
Ig @ 10:49
Everyone say it with me now:
UNEXPECTEDLY!
Posted by: James D | August 16, 2016 at 10:59 AM
Your Olympic moment of the day:
Lost by a penis.
http://nypost.com/2016/08/16/penis-crushes-pole-vaulters-olympic-dream/
Posted by: Jack is Back! | August 16, 2016 at 11:02 AM
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/08/lets_assume_trump_is_shrewd_and_disciplined_principled_and_patriotic.html
Posted by: Miss Marple 2 | August 16, 2016 at 11:03 AM
Sorry for the length but did any of you know about the 1904 Olympic marathon?
From Wikipedia
The marathon was the most bizarre event of the Games. It was run in brutally hot weather, over dusty roads, with horses and automobiles clearing the way and creating dust clouds. The first to arrive at the finish line was Frederick Lorz, who actually rode the rest of the way in a car to retrieve his clothes, after dropping out after nine miles. The car broke down at the 19th mile, so he re-entered the race and jogged back to the finish line. When the officials thought he had won the race, Lorz played along with his practical joke until he was found out shortly after the medal ceremony and was banned for a year by the AAU for this stunt, later winning the 1905 Boston Marathon.
Thomas Hicks (a Briton running for the United States) was the first to cross the finish-line legally, after having received from his trainers several doses of strychnine sulfate (a common rat poison, which stimulates the nervous system in small doses) mixed with brandy. He was supported by his trainers when he crossed the finish, but is still considered the winner. Hicks had to be carried off the track, and possibly would have died in the stadium had he not been treated by several doctors. A Cuban postman named Felix Carbajal joined the marathon, arriving at the last minute. He had to run in street clothes that he cut around the legs to make them look like shorts. He stopped off in an orchard en route to have a snack on some apples which turned out to be rotten. The rotten apples caused him to have to lie down and take a nap. Despite falling ill from the apples, he finished in fourth place.
The marathon included the first two black Africans to compete in the Olympics: two Tswana tribesmen named Len Tau (real name: Len Taunyane) and Yamasani (real name: Jan Mashiani). They were not in St. Louis to compete in the Olympics, however; they were actually part of the sideshow. They had been brought over by the exposition as part of the Boer War exhibit (both were really students from Orange Free State in South Africa, but this fact was not made known to the public). Len Tau finished ninth and Yamasani came in twelfth. This was a disappointment, as many observers were sure Len Tau could have done better if he had not been chased nearly a mile off course by aggressive dogs.
Arriving without correct documents, Frenchman Arthur Coray was not included as part of the French team. He is inconsistently listed as performing in a mixed team in the four mile team race and performing for the US in the marathon.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 16, 2016 at 11:03 AM
It's not all but lost, OL. It's actually very similar to pre-convention status, namely, that Trump is the clear underdog but not a hopeless one. Keep in mind that if the national polls tighten up, so will the battleground states' polls. The problem is the same as it's always been, namely, although Oligarch Media bias and Dem ads, fraud and get out the vote aren't everything, they present a daunting challenge for Trump (and would have for any GOP nominee).
There have been a lot of twists and turns so far, and there will be more for sure.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | August 16, 2016 at 11:04 AM
Mrs. JiB's Opus Major will not be denied:)
Roger that Jack!
Now that we are inching up on potential retirement (or when I say screw it, which ever comes first), Mrs. Buckeye is toying with the idea of building something or a major renovation if we find an existing property in the "right location".
Why do I have this sinking feeling that either my marriage, my wallet, or both may not survive it?
Posted by: Buckeye | August 16, 2016 at 11:04 AM
Chico and the Imam! You da man, GUS!!
Posted by: Beasts of England | August 16, 2016 at 11:08 AM
TK @10:35, GMTA. You just need to be a little quicker.
Posted by: jimmyk | August 16, 2016 at 11:09 AM
Grandson stopped by on his way down to IU. He is moving into an apartment with 3 other guys today.
That kid is going places. He is keeping his one job at the museum, working for the Colts, and will get another job in Bloomington to pay for his phone bill. He also has an ap on his phone that rounds his expenditures up and invests the difference.
I am so proud of him! I am sorry I don't get to see him as much as when he was in high school, but he is doing great in college and is thinking of studying abroad a year from now - in Australia, I am happy to day.
Posted by: Miss Marple 2 | August 16, 2016 at 11:10 AM
I am surprised they did not somehow working some like "pricked his dreams" or somethin'.
Posted by: squaredance | August 16, 2016 at 11:12 AM
It seems that the media doesn't CAIR about the story anymore???
Que pasa??
They dropped it like a hot burrito.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 16, 2016 at 11:12 AM
"cant let the pole hit the bar"
Posted by: henry | August 16, 2016 at 11:13 AM
http://nevo.news/index.php/2016/08/14/90-pounds-of-cocaine-discovered-on-a-boat-owned-by-the-family-of-mitch-mcconnell-the-majority-leader-of-the-u-s-senate/
I had forgotten all about Mitch McConnell being married to Elaine Chao.
The boat is owned by his in-laws.
Posted by: Miss Marple 2 | August 16, 2016 at 11:14 AM
New York Post
New York Post – Verified account @nypost
The man accused of fatally shooting an imam and his aide reportedly felt a "hatred" toward Muslims after 9/11 http://nyp.st/2bCk1MB
Posted by: Lurker Susie | August 16, 2016 at 11:14 AM
That Japanese "Pole" vaulter was a dick anyway.
Posted by: GUS | August 16, 2016 at 11:15 AM
MM's 11:03 link is very perceptive.
The problem I see for Trump is not Hillary, it is the press, which has fairly successfully created the "Trump temperament" theme based mostly on spin and misrepresentations.
How does a bombastic, combative guy respond to claims he is overly bombastic and combative?
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | August 16, 2016 at 11:15 AM
the state run media, are the air cover for the transnational progressive agenda, but there have been plenty of top men collaborators,
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/08/16/trump-gets-lot-amens-speech-safety-admit-share-values-respect-people-379521
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | August 16, 2016 at 11:17 AM
Construction Dynamics
Posted by: JM Hanes | August 16, 2016 at 11:18 AM
9/11?
Uh, oh. Nothing can be Bush's fault anymore. How do we make this Trump's fault?
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | August 16, 2016 at 11:18 AM
One thing about General Hayden it was his department's job to decode the message from bin al shibh to the hijackers, one of the dots missed in the great tapestry,
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | August 16, 2016 at 11:21 AM
Of course Susie, it's already been proven that TRUMP hates Muslims.
Posted by: GUS | August 16, 2016 at 11:25 AM
9/11? . . . How do we make this Trump's fault?
National news already has, spending time on Rudy’s talk where he said eight years before Obama had no major radical Islamic event. 9/11 was seven years ago so they riffed on Rudy "forgetting" 9/11.
Jerks.
Posted by: sbw | August 16, 2016 at 11:27 AM
MM
Your grandson has a great deal of self motivation.
You are right. He will go far. He gets his work ethic from you.
Posted by: maryrose | August 16, 2016 at 11:30 AM
Iggy
By killing at the debates and no longer allowing himself to be baited by the Dems or the media.
Rise above those idiots.
Posted by: maryrose | August 16, 2016 at 11:32 AM
this is a full roster,
https://twitter.com/CounterJihadUS/status/765422844662558720
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | August 16, 2016 at 11:32 AM
"cant let the pole hit the bar"
Resisting impulse to remark about stereotype of Japanese "length"....
Posted by: jimmyk | August 16, 2016 at 11:35 AM
Jimmyk
You are so funny!
Posted by: maryrose | August 16, 2016 at 11:39 AM
Killing at the debates?

Hillary's got the Medusa part down pat, but I'm not sure Trump can pull off the Perseus role.
A feller can dream though;
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | August 16, 2016 at 11:39 AM
How does a bombastic, combative guy respond to claims he is overly bombastic and combative?
By turning it into a virtue? "Yes, I'm bombastic, because I'm mad as hell about what the Democrats have done to our country, and you should be too!"
Posted by: jimmyk | August 16, 2016 at 11:40 AM
All local and network news this morning has run this story:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/08/15/olympics-victory-tax-gold-medal/88587636/
Ever f'n one of them used "The Cost of Winning" in their graphics.
Try "The Cost of Trying to Succeed."
They have no knowledge of taxes on businesses large and small.
Idiots.
Posted by: Threadkiller | August 16, 2016 at 11:43 AM
Next time, he will beat his record.
Posted by: Threadkiller | August 16, 2016 at 11:44 AM
Beat me to it, jimmyk; exactly what I would've said except I was planning on using "asset" instead of "virtue" which, in retrospect, I think you stated better.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 16, 2016 at 11:45 AM
The morning shift is cracking me up, too!! There really should be a cover charge. :)
Posted by: Beasts of England | August 16, 2016 at 11:47 AM
JimmyK, I'm not getting into "chopsticks"
Posted by: henry | August 16, 2016 at 11:48 AM
While I wouldn't put it past the Dems to be colluding with the pollsters, since they seem to be colluding with everyone else on the planet including the GOPe, I'm going to assume the polls are legit until proven otherwise. I'm just wondering about the models they are using. If the models are based on past voting patterns, would they be picking up traditional blue collar dems who might be switching parties for the first time in their lives, or people who've never voted before but say they'll be voting now? If the pollsters are getting responses out of whack with their models, maybe they're discounting the data or doing some re-allocating. We already know that Reuters is "allocating" neither responses to heavily favor Clinton because they admitted as much. Are they the only ones fiddling with the numbers to meet their preconceived expectations?
Of course, for all we know there are few Dem blue collar voters going for Trump and the unlikely voters will stay home again. But if there were shifts in the voting patterns, I'm just wondering if the pollsters' models would pick up on it, and if they did would they accept the data they were getting?
Posted by: derwill | August 16, 2016 at 11:48 AM
Lets see; the CIA gave Bush and congress their best assessment of Saddam's WMD which Bush and congress relied on and that led to "Bush lied, people died!"
We now know not only did CentCom purposely distort ME intelligence to fit the WH's false narrative [IOW, they lied] we also now know they did so because Barry wanted and asked [ordered] them to so that intelligence would fit his tale that leaving Iraq was a great success and ISIS was not a threat and a mere minor player. Many, many thousands of people have died as a result of these intentional lies.
And our government watchdogs lay silent, having their bellies scratched by their Dem masters.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | August 16, 2016 at 11:49 AM
When asked about what happened with the pole, all he could say was "I think it moved."
Posted by: Threadkiller | August 16, 2016 at 11:51 AM
Before the event he was asked if he had any tips for prospective vaulters. He replied "it is easier for me to show you."
Posted by: Threadkiller | August 16, 2016 at 11:53 AM
Greetings, JOM'ers, how goes the good fight? This may very well have been discussed here, but as regards Glenn Beck's conversion on Black Lives Matter...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/15/glenn-beck-urges-conservatives-to-understand-black-lives-matter/
... I think Beck is right, and the pie analogy he makes is sound. He's right in that the majority group (whites) can be (are almost guaranteed to be) oblivious to how difficult it can be to be a minority (black). If whites sincerely tried to "walk in the shoes" of a minority, they'd more likely appreciate that a phrase like "all lives matters" is irrelevant when most lives are already treated as if they matter, and it's principally the minorities who get the short end of the stick. That's the concept, anyway and, like I said, I think it has merit - there's still a long way to go to eradicate racism in this country, and it would be lovely if that happened. But the ball doesn't move forward if whites can't even acknowledge that, seeing as how the injustice of discrimination has affected blacks in the United States for more than two hundred years, it's not unreasonable that some blacks are going to feel defensive when they see what they perceive to be violence unjustly meted out by law enforcement. Even though data indicates that police are actually less likely to shoot at blacks than whites, and even though the black percentage of crime greatly exceeds their percentage of being shot - if blacks want to think otherwise, that it's all part of the man's lies, just leave them be to think that; they've got a right, so to speak. In an ideal world, blacks could still be courted by Republicans, as blacks share some of the social values of the party (they're overwhelmingly anti same-sex marriage, for instance), and blacks could conceivably tire at any time of the bum's rush they've gotten for decades from their supposed saviors, the Democrats.
Pity that "black lives matter" as a term is so much more benign than the organization Black Lives Matter, who feel obliged to accuse Israel of "apartheid" in their platform...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/15/black-lives-matters-anti-israel-platform-blindside/
I don't know if the platform identifies New York City as "Hymietown" - could be. So, certainly, the duplicity of the organization sets back any hope that examination and discussion of the term "black lives matter" might actually help heal the rifts between blacks and whites.
I remember how, for too brief a period, blacks and whites marched together and spoke with one common voice - it lasted for a few days after the 9/11 attack. As Americans, we were ll pissed, and that's a beautiful thing (everyone united, not being pissed!). Hucksters on both "sides" (those who use a provocative phrase to advance a far-left agenda, for instance) , those who divide (and Obama is one, improving race relations is something he actually could have done if he'd wanted to), and citizens who won't try to empathize with their fellow human beings - all of that sets us back.
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | August 16, 2016 at 11:57 AM
🎵🎶
A point of his own
sitting way up high
Way up
firm and high
Working on his flight moves🎶
Posted by: Threadkiller | August 16, 2016 at 12:01 PM
Maybe Beck can get some White Basketball players to shape up or ship out.
Posted by: Threadkiller | August 16, 2016 at 12:03 PM
Why do I want to walk in their shoes when the day after a black cop kills a black guy, the deceased's sister calls for her fellow travelers to go burn white neighborhoods? Sorry - not interested.
Posted by: Beasts of England | August 16, 2016 at 12:04 PM
Beck and Cruz took teddy bears to the border. What will they take to the inner-city?
Besides white-guilt.
Posted by: Threadkiller | August 16, 2016 at 12:06 PM
Who is Gleen Beck?
Posted by: Jack is Back! | August 16, 2016 at 12:07 PM
In an ideal world, blacks could still be courted by Republicans
Like Romney and McCain making a once every four years journey to the NAACP where they turn the party into a piñata for a group that nobody in the black community cares about? I can almost guarantee Trump will get a higher percentage of black votes than those two pandering fools. The GOP always pays lip service to that and then doesn't change from failed tactics.
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 16, 2016 at 12:10 PM
"And our government watchdogs lay silent"
suggest "dead" to replace "silent".
Posted by: Old Lurker | August 16, 2016 at 12:11 PM
good gravy, you haven't been paying attention for four years.
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | August 16, 2016 at 12:13 PM
The show jumping horses are groomed within an inch of their lives and are stunning animals - beautiful to watch!!
Posted by: Beasts of England | August 16, 2016 at 12:17 PM
the horses aren't having "pole vaulter" problems I hope.
Posted by: henry | August 16, 2016 at 12:19 PM
Pretty common. Rob Ford, BLM, etc. Maybe it really is lucifer....
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/08/16/pennsylvanias-democrat-attorney-general-convicted-on-all-charges-in-perjury-trial/
Posted by: ReTool | August 16, 2016 at 12:22 PM
heartshaped box, you can make all kinds of conciliatory gestures and mouth sweet platitudes, but they'd be wasted gestures, because they would never be enough. The agitators (and the money to fund them) of the BLM come from far left wing globalist sources like George Soros and those agitators will ensure that the mob will never be satisfied. That is the whole point. The agitators want the chaos and the anger and the violence to continue because their goal is to break the system so that they can assume tyrannical power. They don't want racial harmony--rather the opposite, and they will continue to stir up trouble even if they have to use a black cop shooting an armed career criminal to do so.
Posted by: derwill | August 16, 2016 at 12:22 PM
That pie analogy is idiotic.
And to say that the data shows blacks are less likely to be shot than whites are, but we should allow blacks to believe otherwise and respect that belief anyway is madness - and pandering of the worst sort.
I absolutely think there is a problem with police violence, but it is a POLICE problem, not a racial problem. Or, more basically, a HUMAN problem, and this Black Lives Matter garbage does NOTHING to address that.
And of course, a much larger problem is that the BLM movement is supported and funded by the very people who have turned so many black communities into unlivable crapholes over the last 50 years, so there's that, too.
Posted by: James D | August 16, 2016 at 12:23 PM
And the horses have little hats with ear covers - like pointed-ear Mickey Mouse beanies!! lol
Posted by: Beasts of England | August 16, 2016 at 12:24 PM
Definitely some extended Huma time after this:
http://tammybruce.com/2016/08/and-the-award-for-most-awkward-hug-of-the-year-goes-to-joe-biden.html
Posted by: Captain Hate | August 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM
--Even though data indicates that police are actually less likely to shoot at blacks than whites, and even though the black percentage of crime greatly exceeds their percentage of being shot - if blacks want to think otherwise, that it's all part of the man's lies, just leave them be to think that; they've got a right, so to speak.--
OK, but the rest of us have a right not to live in that fantasy land or pretend it's real.
There is no empathy in granting fairy tales which lead people down destructive, self indulgent paths of dependency, grievance and irresponsibility.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | August 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM
None yet, henry, but I hear that the horses are considered 'big' in Japan...
Posted by: Beasts of England | August 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291311-five-things-that-could-still-go-wrong-for-hillary-clinton
This is based on...what, exactly?
Posted by: lyle | August 16, 2016 at 12:27 PM
The obvious:
He got schlonged.
Posted by: Threadkiller | August 16, 2016 at 12:28 PM
Internet Explodes After Ivanka Trump Posts Vacation Pic With Vladimir Putin’s Reported Girlfriend
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/08/16/internet-explodes-after-ivanka-trump-posts-vacation-pic-with-vladimir-putins-reported-girlfriend/
Posted by: Truthbetold5 | August 16, 2016 at 12:30 PM
Trump has been emphasizing that he wants the country made safer and more prosperous for ALL people, that we are ONE people, Americans.
I don't suppose you bothered to listen to his speech, yesterday, hrtshpdbox, but it was a vision of the country that we haven't heard in some time.
Glenn Beck is fond of setting himself as our moral better. He is as much a divider as Obama, and I suggest you go read some of the things he wrote about George Bush. The man is consumed both with his own moral superiority and a consummate male jealousy of those who are more successful and popular than he.
I am not interested in his opinion. I particularly am not interested in Black Lives Matter since it is a Soros- funded organization using people of the inner city as cannon fodder to promote Soros' Open Society agenda by creating a climate of violence, fear, and chaos.
Posted by: Miss Marple 2 | August 16, 2016 at 12:30 PM
I've honed my S'ingOB skilz quite well by now...
Posted by: lyle | August 16, 2016 at 12:33 PM
wha?
Posted by: rich | August 16, 2016 at 12:33 PM
ripped from the headlines:
Aetna pulling back from ObamaCare in blow to health law
Posted by: rich | August 16, 2016 at 12:37 PM
Scrolling On By
Posted by: lyle | August 16, 2016 at 12:37 PM