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August 17, 2016

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anonamom

Perhaps I shouldn't say anything about Rush and what he says or doesn't say and when, as I have never ever heard him--but there is no way you can guess just how those lying, corrupt, evil leftists are going to spin the truth.

And it is very important for many of us who hear things--such as "hands up, don't shoot" and then learn the guy was shot in the top of his head to have somewhere to go where there are people questioning the lies, and looking for the truth.

It's not Rush's job to elect Trump--it's ours.

Donate. Put out a yard sign. Speak up when people make those "every decent person knows" kind of misinformed remarks.

Threadkiller

I have been talking to cheerleader and his TCT compadres, jimmy.

I wouldn't describe anything you said as remotely close to considering Limbaugh as the scourge of the campaign.

What has me beat on this one is the shock that Limbaugh would dare to do this, when the view is that he is no longer listened to because he isn't so trustworthy.

Flukeing of Limbaugh was a Soros sponsored event waiting to happen. He finally said something that the rage army's could take to market. How many years were they waiting?

This rage seems manufacturered as well.

I agree that some opinions from people with 13,000,000 listeners a week can be unhelpful. I don't know that I can attribute intentional malice to this opinion.

Threadkiller

...rage army...

She's white, but not stupid.

Well, here's a curveball out of nowhere, but a sample of one. The same gal who mentioned the boat back to Africa remarked, when I brought up Trump's speech, that oh, yeah, apparently all of that Trump hatred for blacks was just made up media message.

If that's a real phenomenon it could be a sea change. Heh, on that old boat outa Bristol.

squaredance

Well, I hope that that sea change is happening.

The the traction of slandering of Trump as anti-black is one of the strangest things about this campaign in that he has never said anything at all against blacks.

Actually Trump is one of the few candidates of the last few years that one cannot call racist at all.

I understand that the Left with always try this tactic; what I am talking about is it actually working.

Again, lots of people have watched Trump's TV shows, and as such is a known quantity--one would think that they are not taken in by all this.

I have seen.....what is best?

Heh, anonamom, the only time I've ever heard Rush was easily 25 years ago in an emergency room lobby. I only remember thinking there was a guy with a future.

Double heh heh, I also picked Ahnuld for a big future in pictures when his acting was panned after Conan the Magnificent. The book was better than the movie, but he brought the character alive splendidly.

jimmyk

TK, probably not a good analogy, but I think of it as adding a tad more salt to an already too salty MSM soup. It's still inedible. I've pretty much stopped listening and reading.

Captain Hate

It would serve them right.

Zippy and Mommy Ferret will use it as an excuse to give Iran more money as a non ransom. Were I in charge I wouldn't spend an iota of time or money on them; Katranny could use that trust fund to spring those assholes whom I wouldn't let back in the country until they spent some serious time in a holding cell with every other sketchy character wanting in.

Heh, he's got a rainbow coalition, pot of gold in distant view.

sd, poor people like him, and a lot of them are of color.
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sbw

Ed Rollins, Great America PAC, tells me Donald Trump is in trouble and I need to tell Chairman Reince Priebus I’m with him and supporting the RNC. I’m supposed to tell RNC Chairman Reince Priebus I have his back.

I don’t think Rollins has my back. I think Rollins is tone deaf.

I think there are too many special interests after my money.

Jack is Back!

So, a guy who lives rent-free in Bubba's, Harry's and Odummy's head is now considered a "scourge". Who you got as the alternative?

You don't thnk he is influential? I give you Operation Chaos in 2007-8. No one I know off in any media could have pulled that off.

But he isn't worth listening to is he?

Captain Hate

Again, lots of people have watched Trump's TV shows, and as such is a known quantity--one would think that they are not taken in by all this.

Exactly. The right reaction to this should be "if they're lying about Trump, what other lines of crap have they told?"

Truthbetold5

Jack

Rush is not doing enough for The Donald, so off with his head.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

First, for a yuge Trump supporter to talk about how boring and unlistenable someone else is because they talk about themselves a lot and have a big ego is kind of the definition of irony.

Secondly, to claim the most influential and popular conservative in the last ~30 years, outside of a president or two, hasn't done enough for the country because he didn't get Romany or McCain elected is more than a little weird, especially when it's said in defense of a guy who also didn't get either one of them elected and has held in the past, and even now, a whole lot more liberal or Dem positions and who in years past gave many, many thousands to some of the most vile progs on earth.
Now the excuse for that is 'that's a cost of doing business'. OK, so a guy compromises principles and essentially bribes politicians to get his business done. However you have a hard time using that argument and then turning around and saying Trump will be the principled conservative who will finally stick it to the progs.

I've been pleasantly surprised by Trump and suspect he'll govern better and more conservatively than most expect. But this idea any criticism from supporters, even if constructive and on point, is an effort to undermine him is the kind of True Believer, lock step purity test I expect from the repulsive Dems.

He's just a guy and guys worth electing listen to supporters when they tell him he did something stupid. It's how people learn. If he is so perfectly excellent that he doesn't need others to mildly and politely let him know he might have done something a bit suboptimal then I doubt he is worth voting for. But again I'll note he isn't complaining about what Rush said; only his self appointed Praetorian guard.

clarice

New thread.

Matt

How much has Trump spent on his campaign to date? How much has Hillary?

Keeping one's powder dry, especially when Hillary has the entire establishment on her side, is one of the wisest moves I have seen.

His speeches are cut and pasted by the media to depict a false narrative and yet somehow the message is still getting through.

National Progressive Radio had a pair of security experts on yesterday parsing Trump's plan for sooper dooper vetting of immigrants. The one said it was anti-American, the "conservative" said it was too expensive and time consuming and would restrict immigration by all. They use the McCarthy era comparison at every chance.

And yet this is simply what we used to have. No commies, no transmittable diseases, no gays. Not comfortable with the no gays part but the rest is fine.

I also don't know if lifting up the rock Soros has been hiding under has had its effect yet, either. That douche has been working behind the scenes to destroy our society for 20 years.

But if Trump is only 1-5 points behind in the polls the establishment is running terrified.The LA Times has come out and called Trump supporters racist xenophobes and we can expect it to be dialed up even higher come September.

People die like characters in The Godfather when they cross the Clintons while their minions get caught stuffing state secrets stolen from The National Archives down their panties and the press says nothing.

The DNC is exposed as equivalent to the Venezuelan Department of Elections and the establishment yawns.

It is somewhat amazing to me how the party as a whole has has not embraced some of the platforms Trump has established as they have been core Republican principles for 30 years. Secure borders, honest trade, and national defense have all been bedrock principles and the elected officials have been running for the hills. It shows a massive flaw in character at the center. This is what is truly disheartening.

But Trump seems to resonate with a lot of people despite the mud flung. It is going to be a zoo for the next 60 days. Can someone pass me some bread for this circus?

Porchlight

But this idea any criticism from supporters, even if constructive and on point, is an effort to undermine him is the kind of True Believer, lock step purity test I expect from the repulsive Dems.

I don't think anyone is really saying that, Iggy. Only that *right now* with 80 days to go, we need balls to the wall boosterism simply to keep up morale and to win. This is how the Dems do it; we could learn a few things.

cheerleader

Ignatz,

You find Trump a bore, therefore it's "ironic" for someone else to think Rush is bore? What kind of nonsense is that?

Another ironic thing is people who talk about how boring Trump is when they've most likely rarely listened to him. I'd betcha I've listened to Rush, many many more hours than you've listened to Trump.

There's history unfolding in front of you, but hey, to you, it's just boring.

I've learned FAR more from Trump about the root causes of America's malaise than I ever did from Rush, after umpteen years of Rino this conservative that and blah blah blah.

Truthbetold5

Go cheerleader

Trump is going to make Americans great again

squaredance

"suspect he'll govern better and more conservatively than most expect."

If he gets in, I think he will prove to be an extremely effective executive. I think a great many people will be shocked.

I do not see him trying to governs as only the "President of the Right" or the "president of the GOP", but as "President of the Nation".

Someone above (I think it was BG) said that his real leadership will come from the power of persuasion, and I think that this is exactly right.

It could be that he will lead, or attempt to lead the nation "back to normality", that is, back to where we were before the Clinton and the Bushes and the Obamas and all that came with them.

Tall order, I know, but I do think that this is the desire of many who will vote for him, whether they know it or not.

I do not see him putting in place a "Conservative Revolution"--and I understand that this is not what Iggy is saying--but more the start of a Restoration.

I think that the American people will back him on this. It may be that he can achieve a broader consensus--one across the rank and file of the parties, and across race and section. If he comes anywhere close to achieving some sort of real and empowered movement towards restoration, he might actually go down as the greatest POTUS since Reagan. Remember, they called him a bubbling clown too.

Truthbetold5

SD

If elected, I think Trump should be given the power to fire senators and congressman.
Perhaps it could be a referendum on the ballot?

That will help expedite the restoration

jimmyk

for a yuge Trump supporter to talk about how boring and unlistenable someone else is because they talk about themselves a lot and have a big ego is kind of the definition of irony.

Not sure to whom this is referring, but there's no real inconsistency. One can be a yuge Trump supporter and also find him unlistenable because he has a big ego etc. Especially if the main reason for supporting him is to keep the lying harridan from winning. I might not want to listen to Trump talk radio, but I can enthusiastically support him for President despite his ego.

cheerleader

Ignatz

You don't want a presidential candidate in an extremely important race to do what the Dems do and solidfy around their candidate, which is why they win.

That's like people who don't want the U.S.A. to do any waterboarding, because it's too beneath the dainty U.S.

cheerleader

I'll try that again, you don't want Republicans to do what Dems do and circle around their candidate.

Get used to losing.

cheerleader

Yeah, and while Trump's making America great again, you'll be so eaten with hate, you'll dissolve into dust.

cheerleader

Once he's elected they'll be four years in which to hold his feet to the fire.

cheerleader

they'll = there'll

Truthbetold5

Yeah, into dust!

glasater

Wonderful, Matt @ 11:07

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Ignatz,

You find Trump a bore, therefore it's "ironic" for someone else to think Rush is bore? What kind of nonsense is that?-

I never said or even implied that Trump is boring. You said certain characteristics of Rush made him boring to you and I pointed out the irony of Trump having those very same characteristics.
Regardless of whatever faults both might have, I don't find either one of them boring. When I used to listen to Rush five days a week it could get pretty monotonous sometimes, but how does anyone talk for three hours a day on a limited number of subjects and not be?

--Ignatz

You don't want a presidential candidate in an extremely important race to do what the Dems do and solidfy around their candidate, which is why they win.--

Of course I want the party to solidify around the candidate and win. That solidification does not necessitate we stare at our candidate through Stepford wive's eyes fetching him a martini and his slippers in nothing but a skimpy French maid's outfit.

Here's a news flash; letting a candidate, or any other human know when they've truly made a mistake makes them stronger and more formidable and is useful and beneficial to them because they can correct a flaw they might not be able to see themselves.

--Not sure to whom this is referring, but there's no real inconsistency. --

That wasn't the point, jimmy. The inconsistency is in declaring Rush a crashing bore who someone can't listen to while declaring Trump the excitement capital of the US of A when he has those very same traits.

Truthbetold5

Iggy

You and Rush need to get on the Trump train or when Hillary gets elected it will be your fault.

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