The Positive Power Of Misunderestimation

The always-quotable Rudy Giuliani:

I want people to think Trump 'has no organization'

Mission Accomplished!

Oh, let's be fair:

Donald Trump's campaign shakeup means nothing more than an expansion, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Wednesday, praising the Republican nominee's organization and recent on-message speeches.

"More people. The campaign is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. A lot of people think he has no organization. Good. I like them to think that," Giuliani said during an interview on "Fox & Friends." "The reality is I've traveled to a number of states with Donald and I've seen the organization he has."

 

Comments

[Buckeye]

MSM will definitely run with whatever story damages Trump the most.

[Buckeye]

Both Bill and Hillary look half dead.

[Barbara]

Trump can do more then one thing at a time but it seems the MSM can't report on more then one story at at time. That's why I think it was a mistake to release the info so soon after his speech.

Perhaps the campaign thought that the main focus would be on the speech thereby minimizing the campaign change.

The error there is that the media will focus on what it wants - especially if they can play it as anti-Trump. It fits into their meme that the Trump campaign is in trouble.

For the life of me, I cannot understand Limbaugh and other presumed conservatives who follow the MSM like they had a ring in their noses and were being pulled along. I very rarely listen to him anymore because of his seeming desire to be one of the big boys, but I tuned in this morning. On a day like today, he led with the MSM story about the changes to the campaign, and the mistake of releasing that information at this time. Then he added some gibberish about these things are usually done when there is another big story or when I'm off. Whatever.

I don't know if he talked about the speech because I turned him off. The so-called conservative pundits are impossible - perhaps never more so than during this election.

[lyle]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/16/state-department-sought-land-deal-with-nigerian-firm-tied-to-clinton-foundation.html

Insty: As somebody said on Twitter, the difference between Hillary and normal people is that when she gets an email from a rich Nigerian proposing a deal, it’s actually from a rich Nigerian, proposing a deal.

[Buckeye]

Well one thing for sure.

If Trump manages to win this, it is going to be incredibly gratifying to see the "force" get a comeuppance.

[lyle]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/why-must-the-media-mislead-on-police-shootings/article/2599468

Beyond trying to downplay the race of the officer and the firearm status of the slain man, CNN went a step further by selectively editing what Smith’s sister Sherelle said to reporters.

“Burnin’ down s*** ain’t going to help nothin! Y’all burnin’ down s*** we need in our community,” Sherelle told reporters. “Take that s*** to the suburbs. Burn that s*** down! We need our s***! We need our weaves. I don’t wear it. But we need it.”

CNN stopped rolling the clip after Sherelle’s comments about her own community. They framed her comments as “calling for peace.” Not exactly.

Gotta love "We need our weaves."

[Old Lurker]

"We need our weaves."

I'm confused. There is a shop here on Nantucket that weaves really nice scarves and throws from cashmere threads. Is that the same thing? Seems pretty pricey for the hood.

:-)

[lyle]

OL, perhaps one of the ATL area JOM gals might enlighten you. ;)

[Old Lurker]

What, Lyle, southern chicks don't like cashmere scarves?

:-)

[sbw]

Rush said the same thing about the campaign shake-up stepping on Trump's speech. Called it a tactical error.

It is not a tactical error unless the media uses it to toss a blanket over the real news.

They did the same thing covering Rudy’s 8 years with no major Islamic attacks by saying what about 9/11. [In my book, 2009-2001 = eight years.]

It is not a tactical error if you establish a record of journalistic malfeasance.

BTW, I edited a poor wire service story again today and wrote AP.

[Lurker Susie]

This is the ad I keep seeing when watching
TV

TheLyinHillaryDoll

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vuegl6ob0Po

[Dave (in MA)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8d-CQePIgg

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Barbara -" I cannot understand Limbaugh and other presumed conservatives who follow the MSM like they had a ring in their noses and were being pulled along"

I don't know what other conservative you're talking about but that's complete nonsense about Rush.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

sbw-when you know the MSM will of course toss a blanket over the real news because you've seen it done over and over its an error. And I think its more important right now to get his speech and what he said covered by the media. Establishing a record of journalistic malfeasance ? That's been done over & over to what end???

[Beasts of England]

Who wears cashmere in the South? It's hot as fa'ar down heauh! ;)

[Barbara]

Well, Texas, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

[Jack is Back!]

What could go wrong?

BLM and the KKK both coming to The Hamptons for a rally.

Its in Westhampton, so I'll probably miss it.

http://nypost.com/2016/08/17/kkk-plans-to-disrupt-black-lives-matter-rally-in-the-hamptons/

[henry]

Send in a drone for the video Jack

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Stools and now pillows! Oh my! http://heatst.com/politics/must-see-photos-of-hillary-clinton-propped-up-on-pillows/

[Old Lurker]

What Beasts? A cashmere throw wouldn't be perfect when the bikini comes off after a day on the lake? Just asking for a friend.

[jimmyk]

We cannot do a long-term war because the democrats manage to politicize it, turn public opinion, and then get themselves elected because they've taken advantage of the public's doubt.

I'd prefer the alternative: If we are in a sustained war, Republicans have to recognize that the primary enemy is the Democrats at home, and they must savagely beat them down and take no prisoners. We cannot tell the rest of the world that we can no longer fight a war. We just have to fight it properly. W was far too polite. How hard would it have been to accuse (rightfully) the Democrats of putting our troops at risk? Of outright treason by giving aid and comfort to the enemy? If that's too strong for the President to say, surely Congresscritters can make the point.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Barbara - agree! 😉

[cheerleader]

I'm starting to hate Rush with a passion.

[sbw]

Texas Liberty Gal, the wire led with the campaign mgmt change, but the back-up story about Wisconsin was yet another blanket.

They led with Trump calling Hillary a “bigot”, followed immediately by a Hillary camp rebuttal that Trump was the bigot.

Even if trump had stayed on message, the MSM was not going to send that message to readers. [Strikes indicate persiflage we cut]

Donald Trump on Tuesday accused rival Hillary Clinton of "bigotry" and being "against the police," claiming that she and other Democrats have "betrayed the African American community" and pandered for votes.

"We reject the bigotry of Hillary Clinton, which panders to and talks down to communities of color and sees them only as votes — that's all they care about," the GOP nominee said in remarks delivered not far from Milwaukee — the latest city to be rocked by violence in the wake of a police shooting.

Trump, who is lagging behind in the polls, accused Clinton of being on the side of the rioters, declaring: "Our opponent Hillary would rather protect the offender than the victim."

That was followed by:

Clinton campaign spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri responded with a statement early Wednesday accusing Trump of being the bigot instead.

"With each passing Trump attack, it becomes clearer that his strategy is just to say about Hillary Clinton what's true of himself. When people started saying he was temperamentally unfit, he called Hillary the same. When his ties to the Kremlin came under scrutiny, he absurdly claimed that Hillary was the one who was too close to Putin. Now he's accusing her of bigoted remarks -- We think the American people will know which candidate is guilty of the charge," she said.

They stomp on every Trump statement with noise, not substance. Staying on message is unpossible in an MSM world.

[Dave (in MA)]

TLG,

Those aren't pillows!

[Beasts of England]

I'm their 'throw', OL. :)

[cheerleader]

I don't think it's Trump whose going to learn, maybe some others will.

[Beasts of England]

Persiflage? Somebody scored an 800. :)

[Buckeye]

Persiflage? Somebody scored an 800. :)

Yeah I had to look that one up:)

[sbw]

You guys are funny.

[maryrose]

Dave:
My son loved your post from "Planes Trains and Automobiles"
Trump's speech was good.
He must stay on offense as Iggy has suggested.
I am still optimistic we will prevail because the usual suspects are t in charge to muck it up.
Obama has really screwed the pooch and working black people feel he hasn't done anything for them except make healthcare unaffordable for them.
People working 2 jobs are not going to vote for Hillary
Buckeye my biggest fear is Bill dying and the sympathy vote
In my mind that is the only way Hillary wins.
Rocco:
I believe Iraq war was justified.
I don't look back with a bunch of what-ifs or Monday morning quarterbacking.

[Captain Hate]

Hey guys, before I get back to 24/7 politics I have a heartwarming story. I was driving Teddy to the dog park and was stuck behind some slowpoke assholes and was bitching appropriately but, when I belatedly pulled up to a four way stop sign, saw this tiny dog about the size of a bunny run across the street and start running up the street on the sidewalk in the same direction I was going. I pulled over to the side, got out and whistled loudly because he was headed to a traffic circle which is really busy and was hoping to turn him around or at least stop him. He didn't break stride so I jumped back in the car and sped off because I didn't want to see him crunched. When I got to the circle he was on the grassy area in the middle and, being lucky enough to have made it that far, was fortunate that the lights were red so he could run across the street in the middle running perpendicular to the street we were on. So I drove to the far point of the circle and pulled over in the far left lane, which was blocked behind where I pulled over so it was safe, got out and whistled and called to him. Amazingly he ran right over to me and I scooped him up.

I don't think Teddy was ever this small even when we first saw him. He looks like Jane's Kiwi but was barely bigger than my hand and wasn't struggling to get away. So I thought Welp, I'd better try to find your owner. I kept him cradled in my left hand and arm (NFW was the seatbelt fastened) and Teddy was remarkably uninterested in checking things out more closely, so I headed back to the street he emerged from. I saw some tall kid and said "looking for this dog?" Which he was and he thanked me as I handed him through the window. I've felt good about the day ever since then.

#Black'sDog'sLivesMatter

[Threadkiller]

Rove is on Medved's show. He apparently has outlined what Trump needs to do to win.

Most importantly Trump needs to be less ad-hoc.

He would be smart to have an African-American and some Latinas on the stage with him.

His tweets should be better timed.

[Threadkiller]

Medved adds that someone should take Trump's phone from him.

[derwill]

No way was the MFM going to report much on Trump's speech--even if they were reduced to covering a church bake sale in Pocatello instead.

[lyle]

Way to go, CH.

[Threadkiller]

Rove:

"It takes longer to dig yourself out of a hole than it takes to dig yourself into one."

Ugh..

[lyle]

even if they were reduced to covering a church bake sale in Pocatello instead.

Ooh, arcane local (well, local for Idaho) ref, derwill.

[MaryD]

Nice going, Captain Hate!

[Captain Hate]

Rove should be advising some of his high roller clients to stop throwing money away at Short Circuit.

[lyle]

Front page of Barron's sez it's all wrapped up for Short Circuit.

[Beasts of England]

Did he diagram the hole on his whiteboard?

[lyle]

In case no one has linked, in DrJ's absence:

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2014/8/16/man-without-a-country

[Threadkiller]

Rove: Trump should lay out what he wants to do. He should meet with families that were destroyed by O-care.

F' off Rove!

He met with families that were underserved by O-BorderCare.

[Threadkiller]

I didn't notice DrJ was absent.

[maryrose]

Captain
You are a really good person who I am happy to know.
Good job on the rescue.

[Threadkiller]

Trump needs to learn from William McKinley!

[Threadkiller]

Yes! Good Job CH!!

[Beasts of England]

They just showed a promo for some late night guy in NBC and he said: 'The lastest polls show Trump almost even with Clinton. That's the closest he's ever been to a woman nearly his age.' Hahaha!!

[maryrose]

Rove has some good suggestions.
Just needs to tell Trump before gaffe occurs or he goes off track.
Afterward doesn't help all that much.

[lyle]

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439048/trumps-nationalism-white-identity-politics-brand-name

You knew this was coming, didn't you? Guess the author.

[Threadkiller]

I blame Hannity.

He has the only other national show in this time slot.

I'd rather listen to Medved's poorly thought out #ConcernNeverTrumpisms than Hannity's poorly worded Trump support.

[henry]

can possibly guess Lyle. Did he call quick draw's sister a statesman while he was at it?

[Threadkiller]

I must have missed part of the show. Maryrose.

Did Rove have good suggestions?

Will Trump win if he has a Latina on the stage?

What should Trump do if Hil has 2 Latinas on her stage?

[lyle]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/america-to-hand-off-internet-in-under-two-months/article/2599521

Good thing we have the GOPe stop this fiasco, huh?

[Threadkiller]

Rove has listed the "gimmie" states. Now we get advice on swing states.

[Threadkiller]

Apparently the winner needs a certain amount of electoral votes.

This Rove guy is sharp!

Oh...OH!!!!

Rove gives a shout out to Ohio!!!!

Now I get it.

[jimmyk]

Front page of Barron's sez it's all wrapped up for Short Circuit.

Gotta keep the graft opportunities aka campaign contributions rolling.

[Threadkiller]

Does anyone remember the SNL spoof of the Citibank commercials?

It was how their bank could make change for any dollar amount.

Rove is doing nothing more intelligent than that skit.

[Truthbetold5]

Trump Supporters React to Outrageous Campaign Ads • Triumph's Summer Election Special 2016

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6MubunsD-7g&ebc=ANyPxKoPtsO9WDzlb_31uMW4aDR70ic6tqSL8khDgHYveL1vO7oC2uj9KZCzlsXB9AlOd2bI4fS7dCFRzwLHv0RiL-tdi970_w

[Threadkiller]

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/first-citywide-change-bank/n9701

[Buckeye]

#Black'sDog'sLivesMatter

+1, my Labradoodle is black as coal:)

[Captain Hate]

If Cruz wants to become relevant again he'll stop sniping at Trump and concentrate his efforts on blocking the Internet give away, which Trump should campaign on by supporting his efforts.

[Threadkiller]

I have decided to shut the radio off.

[James D]

lyle @ 3:31

I saw that this morning. I really did used to like Jonah Goldberg.

Not anymore.

If he gets his way and Hillary wins, I hope he remembers that he's probably on her enemies list thanks to his mom Lucianne's role in the whole Lewinsky scandal. And I hope she unleashes the dogs on him, and he ends up in jail for tax evasion or something. It would be no less than he deserves.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

lyle,
That Wretchard link is from Aug 16th....2014.
Maybe that's why Doc seemingly hadn't got to it yet. He did two years ago. :)

[Captain Hate]

Btw has Shemp been screaming about Zippy not interrupting his vacation one iota in response to the Looziana flooding?

[lyle]

Well, don't I just look like a damn fool? :)

[Porchlight]

Guck Fonah Joldberg.

[Beasts of England]

Good grief, lyle. A few weeks ago I tried to start an (almost) daily Stupid NRO NeverTrumper link and it was funny the first three or four times, but they've reached a new low. Goldberg is nothing but a pro-Hillary faggot; and the sooner he dies in a fire, the better.

[Captain Hate]

Pretty sure these people are all going to Hell:

http://www.weaselzippers.us/290070-feminist-magazine-bill-clinton-raping-juanita-broaddrick-doesnt-make-him-a-bad-feminist/

[lyle]

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/the-omar-campaign-shuts-up.php

Johnson has been reporting on the Somali woman who is the DFL (Dem) candidate running for the MN state legislature. Seems like she has some pretty shady background that her campaign is trying to suppress but check out his last paragraph:

In choosing to leave the story with unanswered questions that Omar could easily answer if she chose to, the Omar campaign has made a calculation. They seem to have made the calculation that they cannot fill the gaping holes in Omar’s story without exposing Omar to some kind of legal jeopardy, but that they can bull their way through the election without more.

Now sub in Short Circuit for every "Omar" in those sentences. Et voila, that's how you do it when your "political party" is just a criminal enterprise.

[clarice]

CH We're going to have to change your moniker to Capt Soft Touch.

[lyle]

Captain Wuv. ;)

[Porchlight]

Great feeling to help in that way, Cap'n. Especially with a happy ending!

[JeanD]

In Lyle's defense, DrJ has been missing, and said he would be gone for a long time.

This was several days ago, and only Jeff and narc have the mad skills necessary to find his sign off remark.

I hope all is well with you, DrJ, should you still be reading here.

[Lurker Susie]

Coming to America???

Sandra ن
Sandra ن – ‏@SandraTXAS

Since 2000 France pulled down 33 Christian churches. In their place they erected more than one t… http://vladtepesblog.com/2016/08/16/sign-of-the-times-since-2000-france-pulled-down-33-christian-churches-in-their-place-they-erected-more-than-one-thousand-mosques/ …. #Islam #tcot

[Buckeye]

17 days until College Football

[Marlene]

CH,that is a great rescue story!

I took a nap so just read your comment @1:45,OL,ha. My sister and her husband,the retired Navy Seabee,visited a couple of weeks ago. We were sitting on the porch and started to discuss Hillary. As you probably know,the Seabees maintain Camp David and he was assigned there at the end of Clinton's second term. One Sunday when the Clintons were there,they attended Chapel. My sister and the kids sat in the second pew,behind the Clinton family. When the b-i-l took his seat,he was right behind Hillary. He said her a** was quite large. I don't remember her being heavy during her First Lady years,but my b-i-l was right behind (heh) her.
I think she put on the weight when she stared hitting the booze.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

I am a soft touch when it comes to dogs. I was determined to keep it from getting snuffed and things just worked out.

[Jack is Back!]

This is for Captain Hate, dog rescuer no. 1, and anyone else who has played basketball and more importantly played in Chuck Taylor high tops:) Even for the fashionistas who have never played but think they are a statement.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/how-chuck-taylor-taught-america-how-play-basketball-180960050/

[Marlene]

*started hitting the booze*

I remember DrJ's last comment and it sounded like either something personal happened or something at work,in his lab?

[cheerleader]

Rush makes a tactical error by yammering about Trump's tactical error. Its' not going re-win the audience share that he's lost.

[Lurker Susie]

JIB,

Thanks for the Chuck Taylor article. I wore my
white high tops playing basketball in high
school. Low tops for hanging around.
This was in the mid to late 60's

[Jack is Back!]

Lurker Susie,

The secularization of Europe start long before the big wave of Muzzie migration in the 80's. In Belgium, its even more pathetic. Molenbeek alone has 22 or 25 mosques. Mrs. JiB parish is a skeleton of itself and when we go to mass, we are they youngest couples there and Frederick the only kid attending.

Wnen we went to mass in the Antwerp Cathedral last year, it was mostly Americans and other visitors at the mass and again Frederick was one of only 3 kids. Even Italy is starting down the secular path. In Venice most of the Catholic churches are strictly art museums now.

Not pretty. And you're right coming here sooner or later. Right now Catholic churches are coming back slowly from the priest abuse scandal but its not the church I remember growing up in.

[clarice]

OK then Capt WuV puppies.

[Marlene]

Jack,the Diocese of Portland just paid $1.2M to six victims of sex abuse. It seems this story will never go away.

[cheerleader]

It's a lovely story Captain, but if it had been me, I wouldn't have wanted to give the puppy back to someone so careless.

[Barbara]

Rove:

"It takes longer to dig yourself out of a hole than it takes to dig yourself into one."

He ought to know, TK. Interesting and at times knowledgeable as he is, I wouldn't trust anything Rove had to say about this election because of his close relationship with the Bush family.

I am amazed that the so-called "right" (with the exception of Sean) is ignoring Trump's speech last night.

As I said in comment on the previous thread, we are 19 - now 20 days out from the end of the conventions, and the doom and gloom of the media seems to have permeated the air waves. All they talk about is the need to turn Trump's campaign around. They've been doing this since the day after the Democrat Convention ended. Add in some specious polls, and as far as the MSM is concerned, the election is a done deal. That just doesn't make sense to me.

Rather than fight back, the people on the right have accepted the mantra. Trump has to change or it's DOOM. AFAIC, these messages are the product of the establishment, which includes the Republicans, the Democrats, and the media, doing everything they can to stop Trump. No matter what Trump does, no matter the changes he makes, or how well the people respond to him, they are going to beat on that drum of doom until election day with the goal of defeating him.

[Appalled]

Trump is a rich guy with a beautiful wife, a lot of attention, many fans, and won a Republican nomination maybe only Ivanka thought he could win. I doubt that, unlike Hillary, the White House has been a goal for him for him for many, many years.

This doesn't strike me as a person who is going to take a lot of unsolicited advice on how to be different so he can win an office. His decision and determination to run as himself doesn't really surprise.

We'll see if it works.

[Marlene]

We need a photoshop of Hillary in William Taft's bathtub.

[maryrose]

DrJ:
He said he had several projects he was working on as a result of grants he had received.

[sbw]

Rove: It takes longer to dig yourself out of a hole than it takes to dig yourself into one.

What if, in Rove’s case, you are the hole?

[clarice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCTaiKxpWSA

The Usa composition animated by Business Insider

[maryrose]

Barbara:
Right now we are in a dead news cycle.
Vacations are ending, school is starting so media doesn't really run with anything new.
I am still waiting for outrage to be shown over the Pennsylvania Attorney General scandal to break through the media fog.
Is she going to jail like Blago?
She lost her law license but hey so did Bill Clinton but you would never know it.She is a dem so radio silence .

[cheerleader]

If Rush is such a media guru why did he lead by piling on, instead doing his best to counteract the perceived error? If he wants Trump to win, and he knows the power of media, why did he use that power to make Trump look stupid? In that instance it looked like he was playing for the other team.

[maryrose]

SBW
Many would be tempted to insert -SS in addition to the hole.

[cheerleader]

I agree with Barbara's comments about Rush a hundred per cent.

[Dave (in MA)]

This was several days ago, and only Jeff and narc have the mad skills necessary to find his sign off remark.

The Trump's Finger On The Button Worries You? Please. thread page 5.

[henry]

Marlene, gonna need a bigger tub.