You Don't Have To Be Crazy To Go To College

They'll take care of that once you get there:

BOSTON (CBS) – New concerns arise about the mental health of students on college campuses all across the country.

Dr. Gene Beresin, a psychiatrist and Executive Director of The Clay Center for Young Healthy Minds at Massachusetts General Hospital, says 50% to 60% of college students have a psychiatric disorder.

“What I’m including in that is the use of substances, anxiety, depression, problems with relationships, break-ups, academic problems, learning disabilities, attentional problems,” says Dr. Beresin. “If you add them all up 50% doesn’t seem that high.”

 

Comments

[henry]

you don't have to be crazy, but it helps.

[henry]

If you aren't crazy when you matriculate, give it time. You will be by graduation.

[Thomas Collins]

I haven't read the study, but if the operational definition of psychiatric disorder in the study is accurately summarized in the article TM linked, 100% of students should have a psychiatric disorder. In fact, I'd be worried about a student who didn't qualify as having a psychiatric disorder under the definition set forth in the article.

[Thomas Collins]

From the article:

"Dr. Beresin says the suicide rate in college in astronomical. “A college student kills himself every day,” he says."

I wonder whether the suicide rate of college students has increased over time. That would seem to me to be a more useful study.

[rich]

yeah, pills for everyone!!!

not related: http://fox2now.com/2016/08/23/university-of-missouri-system-sees-drop-in-enrollment/

[rse]

I am sure it has nothing to do with all the hype on making sure every so-called elite college or university now has a hefty % of its entering class as First Generation College Students, who of course need to be rewarded with free rides.

[Porchlight]

“If you add them all up 50% doesn’t seem that high.”

Um....I'm no math wizard and I'm open to the idea that today's college students aren't all that mentally healthy, but I am pretty sure that some of the substance abusers are also having problems with relationships and some of the students having academic problems may also have a learning disability etc etc....so I don't think you can just "add them all up."

[rich]

Porchlight-

that's no fun. and I thought that substance abuse and bad relationships was a 101 class ...

... stumbling back to the student ghetto.

[common man]

Ever met a psychiatrist who you did not think was a little nuts himself(herself/itself)? Think about it.

[James D]

Break-ups are now considered a psychiatric disorder? If that's the definition, then something approaching 100% of the population has a psychiatric disorder or has had one at some point in their lives.

What I take away from the snippet TM posted (and clearly there's no point in following the link) is that Dr. Gene Beresin ought to be fired, the Clay Center for Young Healthy Minds ought to be shut down, and Massachusetts General Hospital ought to be permanently cut off from all governmental or charitable funding, since they clearly have more money than they could possibly even need if they're paying Dr. Gene Beresin for nonsense like this.

[rich]

this brings to mind a post Ace had up a while ago: universities and colleges are actually training students in "Irrational Emotive Therapy" with their galaxy of services for the delicate-safe spaces, speech codes, sex panic witch hunts ...

[henry]

rich, that training starts in kindergarden

[lyle]

And the pussification of this country accelerates...

[rich]

... and schools having to dig deeper into the marginal student pool to fill out their rosters for the next term.

... or the hours of maoist self-criticism students are subjected to (that would make me drink).

[rich]

henry-

looks like my focus was too narrow.

[James D]

or the hours of maoist self-criticism students are subjected to (that would make me drink).

Telling incoming freshmen that they are helpless victims (or heartless opressors, if they're white males) and reinforcing that message every day in myriad ways in every sphere of campus life couldn't POSSIBLY lead to any psychological issues for students, right?

[lyle]

And all the Frankfurt School/Critical Theorists are beaming somewhere...

[rich]

Tom Collins-

http://www.sprc.org/sites/default/files/migrate/library/SuicideAmongCollegeStudentsInUS.pdf

it is a few years old but they have references to some longer term surveys. a quick take away is that in men it is less than the general population for the age cohort but for women it is about the same for the age cohort.

don't want to make light of it. it is very sad when one were to extinguish his life even in the most extreme of adversity.

[rich]

poof ... abracadabra

[Jack is Back!]

Yippee! We are the birthing central in the north atlantic for the Great White Shark.

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/ocearch-discovers-great-white-shark-birth-site-off-ny-coast/

[lyle]

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/letters-from-the-west/article97790302.html

Do two Texas billionaire brothers now own a big chunk of S. Idaho?

Hey!

[I wonder what the Univ. of Missouri is telling incoming frosh.]

We're only a step away from dissent being a mental disorder.

Curiously, the Univ. of Chicago has held the line and is explicitly telling incoming freshmen not to expect safe spaces.

[Porchlight]

If any school should do that, it's Chicago. Notoriously tough on undergrads (academically anyway).

[Porchlight]

And grads, too, of course. Just more tough on undergrads than most schools.

[Encouraging?]

Oh, yes; 'curious' was not the mot approp.

[Marlene]

I've been out doing errands. I see Gov. LePage made memeorandum,he does sound a bit unhinged in that rant. Oh well,I have other things to worry about. I broke two bottles of wine while unloading groceries. You should have heard my rant!

[Dave (in MA)]

Vindicating what those of us who were calling it Operation Change The Subject were saying all along...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3758922/Bill-Clinton-bombed-Iraq-distract-Monica-scandal-Huma-Abedin-s-Muslim-journal-claimed-boss-s-husband.html

[Marlene]

Porch,I saw something seldom seen in northern Maine in the parking lot of the grocery store. A Prius with Texas license plates. Sadly,she had a "I'm Ready for Hillary" bumpersticker on the car.

[Porchlight]

Should have gone directly to Judicial Watch to answer my questions upthread.

The emails we're talking about this week ARE work emails that were NOT originally turned over by State. They are the result of Judicial Watch's FOIA request that was stonewalled by state until a judge stepped in.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/clinton-foundation-firestorm/#anc1

[Porchlight]

That's too bad, Marlene, but hopefully she's just vacationing and still votes in Texas. :)

[Dave (in MA)]

She probably votes in Chicago too, and isn't even aware of it.

[Marlene]

Jack,speaking of the North Atlantic,remember a few years ago Frederick was interested in the puffins? Most of the baby puffins on Machias Seal Island starved this season. The parents were finding smaller fish with less nutrients. Three guesses what is to blame.

[Porchlight]

Clinton refuses to answer questions, offers reporters candy instead:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/08/26/hillary_clinton_refuses_to_answer_press_questions_offers_them_chocolate_canides_instead.html

Comments on Reddit are funny:

[–]Jerkboy13SC 31 points 17 minutes ago
God, she really is an old woman. What, were they all out of butterscotch candies?

[–]aguacateCO 8 points 12 minutes ago
To be fair, her ribbon candies were stuck to her Diazepam pen.

[–]BamaBangs 3 points 8 minutes ago
And the bit-o-honeys melted in her oven mitt dress

[Captain Hate]

Ever met a psychiatrist who you did not think was a little nuts himself(herself/itself)? Think about it.

Ever met a child of a shrink(s) who becomes a shrink to undo the damage?

[Captain Hate]

Tammy is unloading on the Oven Mitt.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Wasn't offering candy how the witch got Hansel and Gretel into the oven?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Barrycare is turning the country purple.
Probably not how you think though.
Comparative maps for how the insurance markets are collapsing from this year to next.

[Captain Hate]

To look at the picture it's already happened:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-mccains-primary-opponent-suggests-he-might-die-in-office/

[Porchlight]

Ever met a child of a shrink(s) who becomes a shrink to undo the damage?

Why yes, yes I have.

[Captain Hate]

The Horde doing the hard work of tracking down advanced trolling:

https://mobile.twitter.com/lachlan/status/768914386064969732

[James D]

I recall the Obama campaign - with the press gleefully joining in the speculation - talking about McCain's health and the possibility that he could die in office during the 2008 campaign.

I guess the folks at CBS News don't have access to Google, though, so I suppose we can't expect them to remember.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Janet Yellen has a job as a climate modeler after her stint at the fed ends;
Fed expects short term rates to be somewhere between 0 and 4.5% over the next two years.
In 2017 I predict the SF Giants will win between 0-162 games. Where's my cushy government job?
Oh, I forgot. No experience. If I had spent the last 30 years predicting the Giants would win 0-162 games then I would be qualified.

[Porchlight]

I missed Michael Rosenblum's salty tears over at HuffPo the other day:

Donald Trump Is Going To Be Elected

[Buckeye]

When I was a freshman at The Ohio State University, I lived in a 12 story dorm on the North Side of campus.

There were 3 or 4 identical dorms, most housed freshman and sophomores, but one housed grad students. We had several suicides that year where people went to the rooftop and took a swan dive.

Interestingly, all were from Jones, where grad students lived.

They finally got smart and locked access to the roof.

[rse]

Emory used to have "wonderful wednesdays' to break up the stress of the week and make suicides less likely.

[Captain Hate]

I recall the Obama campaign - with the press gleefully joining in the speculation - talking about McCain's health and the possibility that he could die in office during the 2008 campaign.

Not only that, they agitated the Code Hot Flash crones by stating that parvenu Sarah Palin would then be President.

[clarice]

Never met a shrink who wasn't nuts..and their children usually are, too. Mattress girl at Columbia is the daughter of 2 of them.

[lyle]

It Trump manages to get elected, I'd predict the Fed to start jacking up rates like a monkey on cocaine commencing Nov. 9...

[Matt]

First semester of college is when a lot of students experience their first mental health crisis. They are away from the safety net. They start overdoing booze and drugs. And what seemed like perhaps a quirk can blow into full psychosis.

I work with many parents and families who have experienced this.

The danger is the definition. We all have situational depression at one time or another. Some people can get manic. Anxiety is the most common form of disorder. But these are primarily transitory. A part of life.

It is when there is a complete meltdown that it becomes clinical. As we say, suicide is often a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Breakups, failures, depression all can lead to this.

And if someone seems that depressed, don't be afraid to ask them if they are contemplating this in plain language. Someone who is suicidal will often respond to a kind word and personal concern. You can save a life.

Our educators leading our kids down the rabbit hole certainly doesn't help. DDS, or Democrat Derangement Syndrome is not in the DSM yet but the authors may wish to consider the symptoms; a wholesale disregard for the facts, rabid hatred, an unwillingness to listen to reason. When it reaches violent acts we really need to find them help.

[lyle]

Okay, maybe that might be a tad too soon. How about this? They jack Fed Funds from .5% to 4.5% the day after his inauguration and tank the bond and equity markets all at once...

[lyle]

Your almost daily Wretchard:

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2016/08/25/the-post-heroic-age/

Don't miss!

[lyle]

Stop me before I blockquote again!

Barack Obama's great strategic innovation was to hide heroism in all its ugliness and glory from his political base; to conduct secret war. Though his secret conflicts may in actual terms be as bloody, dangerous and destructive as any before in history, as the Syrian victims will attest, it is largely unseen and therefore acceptable the post-heroic electorate. We don't know means we don't care. In terms of the movie, "A Few Good Men" it is as if Obama in the role of lawyer Daniel Kaffee convicts Colonel Nathan Jessup but lets him out him at night to continue to guard the wall, paroled on condition that he never remind the world again of his existence. Maybe we can't handle the truth. The administration's great achievement was to add: "and we don't want to".

Zippy: a true statesman for our times...

[Buckeye]

lyle, how about a little advice for us "regular guys" who don't want to face retirement empty handed.

If you had a typical portfolio of investments, mostly IRAs and the like, how would you protect it against that kind of a cluster.

Not that I wouldn't at least listen to my advisor, but he is only 40....not sure he has my motivation.

[Jack is Back!]

Marlene,

Sharks! Right?

[Matt]

Obama's drone wars have made us enemies we don't even know we have who will haunt us for decades to come.

[Porchlight]

The guy who wrote that HuffPo piece in my 12:44 also wrote this one - in September 2015. Guy gets some credit for sticking to his guns:

Michael Rosenblum - HuffPo 9/15/15 - Donald Trump Is Going To Be President

Kinda funny - he went back in March and replied to a couple of comments. :)

[Captain Hate]

Though his secret conflicts may in actual terms be as bloody, dangerous and destructive as any before in history, as the Syrian victims will attest, it is largely unseen and therefore acceptable the post-heroic electorate.

It's there for the viewing of the stream of refugees from that area for anyone paying attention. His MFM enablers have been working overtime to hector every decent person in this country to ignore good sense and break out the welcome wagon for these people who are showing up for some unknown reason.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I am not a financial advisor and don't play one on TV, but if you consider the stock market, real estate and bonds at all time highs because of easy money and ZIRP, those are three areas that will not fare, at least for a time, in a high or normalized interest rate environment.

Disclaimer; Past performance is not indicative of a damned thing.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

not fare *well*

[Miss Marple 2]

POrchlight,

On my way home I heard Rush talking about that article. Thank you for posting it as I couldn't remember the author or the publication!

I believe it was on this site that I said that voters will not want to see this series cancelled.

I believe Trump is holding these rallies and giving so many interviews because he wants as many people engaged as possible. People are not going to get to november and want to see it stop. Instead, they will want this to continue.

I was sure glad to see someone else was thinking sort of like me.

[lyle]

I'm being facetious, Buckeye. Very facetious. I find the idea of the Fed raising rates up 25bp to be laughable. With an election a little more than two months away, there's no way in hell they move next month. This is all blather to paint the economy as doing well vote Hilliary and nothing more.

Should Trump win and given his volubility about well...just about everything, I'd expect a Trump-elect to warn quite loudly about any possible shenanigans from the outgoing admin and its lackies.

Furthermore, the titans of finance may be Hilligula simps but they aren't suicidal. Despite the utter bullshit about a Trump presidency causing a recession, the players will be lining up to make deals with him not cut off their noses. So, y'know, business as usual.

Finally, there's no harm in getting a bit defensive: lighten stock positions, build cash, hold your nose and buy short term bonds, 2-3 yr. Buy gold ETFs that allow you to take physical possession if that holds interest. The gold bugs like to point out that cash and gold pay you the same rate: nothing. But I'd point out that gold has been declining of late after a big start on the year.

[Captain Hate]

An engaged voting public? How can this be? We're supposed to go about our lives and not bother our overlords with our petty matters.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/23/meet-trumpocrats-lifelong-democrats-breaking-party-hillary-clinton-support-donald-trump-president/

Breitbart found some democrats willing to talk. And they even have a PAC!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

lyle,
Do you think a president Trump mightn't give the Fed a bit more backbone to do the right thing, as Reagan did Volcker back in 81?

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/25/exclusive-trumpocrats-say-clinton-alt-right-speech-backfires-turns-off-democrats-hillary-simply-unhinged/

[lyle]

mightn't?

Ambiguous solecism aside (:-0), I think the best thing Trump could do is promptly appoint a new Fed chairman. BTW, the cretin who used Citi as (in Taranto's parlance) the worst appeal to authority yesterday? Here's their statment I got in a spam email today:

Big American bank Citi has just gone on the record warning that a Donald Trump victory in November’s election could usher in a recession for the US. The bank summarized its position like this, saying “A Trump victory in particular could prolong and perhaps exacerbate policy uncertainty and deliver a shock (though perhaps short-lived) to financial markets … Tightening financial conditions and further rises in uncertainty could trigger a significant slowdown in U.S., but also global growth”. The bank has its own definition of a global recession, which it says is anything under 2% global growth. Despite this outlook, the bank is still maintaining that it thinks Clinton will win, and that even a victory by Trump could have some fiscal stimulus effects, such as lower taxes or increased infrastructure spending.

Quite damning, huh? But this is so stupid anyway because the US economy is barely above stall speed as it is.

[Marlene]

Jack,global warming!

[Jack is Back!]

Ovar at Moron Central (Ace's), the sidebar has concluded that LePage is the governor of Oregon since the news report they link is the Portland Press Herald.

You know Portland = Oregon.

Now I know why they are referred to as morons.

[lyle]

http://spectator.org/the-standard-bearer-of-bull-connors-party-calls-trump-racist/

[lyle]

Well, well, well:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/fed-chairwoman-janet-yellen-sees-stronger-case-for-interest-rate-increase-1472220004#livefyre-comment

IF the Donald is elected, we should probably expect rapid, and steep, rate increases by the seemingly Marxist FED chair--purpose: to distort the deficit with higher interest expenses on all the short term debt-- to cause massive deficit increases during Trumps term to hamper his policy proposals.

So I'm not the ONLY conspiracy wingnut out there! ;) (To reiterate: I don't think for a minute the Fed would do this. See my 3:30.)

[lyle]

FWIW, here's my comment on that WSJ link (the quoted part is another commenter):

"If rates are increased (especially on long term bonds) the pension situation will be greatly improved."

Ahem. First, the "pension situation" will remain precisely the same. All that will "improve" is actuarial forecasts, which will still not solve the horrendous unfunded liabilities. Second, the Fed has precisely NO influence over the yield curve out past about a year or so. Long term rates will rise if economic indicators start pointing towards solid, sustainable growth which will be the only way to solve the first point. Good luck with that.

.

[lyle]

Is this thing on? :)

[cathyf]

Speaking from the perspective of a non-competitive-admission college, something like 40% of the students are on some sort of anti-psychotic drug. Some of the reasons are pretty simple -- these drugs exist, and they work, so there is a whole new generation of mentally-ill young people who can go to college, rather than crashing and burning in high school and not making it out of their parents' basement, which would have been their fate in previous generations.

A big fraction of the best students in non-competitive land have some problem or another that renders them too fragile for the top-100 schools, or, worse, the giant state schools. By being so far ahead of the average intellectually, they can struggle through the personal problems and succeed.

Which is a good thing, right?

[Jack is Back!]

Can a President Trump use his pen and phone and just, like, eliminate the Fed? And knowing Trump, he may think he can do it and if he is wrong then use his bully pulpit to humiliate the hell out of those suits.

If this is fantasy, then maybe we can make it a reality TV show.

[Dave (in MA)]

JiB, heh, who writes the sidebar synopses, I wonder?

[JeanD]

Dave (in MA), thanks for the Key & Peele!

A friend got a new chocolate lab puppy, and I lobbied hard for him to name it Barkevious. My lobbying didn't work, but it was fun.

[Dave (in MA)]

JeanD, My sister and brother-in-law didn't take my naming suggestion for my nephew, so they went with John instead of D'Brickashaw.

[Porchlight]

LOL, Dave. You crack me up.

[JeanD]

:) Dave

[Miss Marple 2]

Despite the headline, this is a 7 point drop.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/293489-poll-clinton-up-5-over-trump-nationally

[buccaneer morgan]

well I suspected something like that happened with greenspan, when he hiked rates consecutively, for ywo yeats

[Jack is Back!]

How to stop a tranny.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/08/26/do-you-prefer-maam-or-sir-new-doj-video-shows-cops-how-to-treat-transgender-people/

For you who have aspirations of law enforcement.

[henry]

Lyle, per Drudge growth is below 2% now. Are these Citi slicks jumping out windows yet?

[Porchlight]

Good news, MM.

From The Hill - a "don't worry, Democrats!!" little warm fuzzy at the end:

"Despite some signs of her national lead dwindling, the former secretary of State leads in nearly every battleground state, and is neck and neck with Trump in traditional GOP strongholds like Georgia and Arizona."

Whatever. She is not going to win Georgia or Arizona, so what do those other leads really mean?

[rse]

Jean & Dave--when I first met my husband he had two cats. Took in a stray and then found it a playmate. His brother had named one expletivehead. When we had kids I insisted we have the kids use the acronym sh.

Pilots have odd senses of humor about animals I found.

[Miss Marple 2]

Uh-oh. Trump has been giving Mike Pence lessons. Pence opened a Trump ooffice today and here is an Indianapolis reporter's complaint:

Robert Scheer ‏@bobscheer 22m22 minutes ago

#pence taking a #trump cue by playing the 'blame the media' card. He never used to do that
0 retweets 0 likes

[Miss Marple 2]

"He never used to do that."

This is true. He followed the approved, Rovian "don't fight with the media" tomato can method of dealing with the press.

I am glad to see Trump taught him some things. If only some more of the GOP would wake up.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Damned, Trump is a bad influence.
Pence used to be obsequious; just the way we prefer our pet Reps.

[buccaneer morgan]

bob scheer, the fellow the la times, found too leftwing, who misunderestimated reagan in the 80s snorfle,

[Porchlight]

Poor media, everyone is picking on them all of a sudden.

[Captain Hate]

JiB, heh, who writes the sidebar synopses, I wonder?

The coblogs have the keys to that state of the late 20th century art software.

[James D.]

MM @ 5:21

I didn't know hat Scheer was still even alive.

Too bad.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The "cloth" Hillary used to wipe her servers, BleachBit, now running ads bragging that it "stifled the investigation of Hillary Clinton".

[buccaneer morgan]

yes, he's still creaking along, at Isvestia dig,

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Mugabe Orders Arrest Of "Rats We Call Athletes" After Zimbabwe Wins No Olympic Medals

[Porchlight]

Scott Adams on the Alt Right speech.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/149511360096/finding-the-political-bottom

Trump has built his brand around the idea that he will protect legal American citizens of all types – who he loves – against bad people in other countries. Trump is saying he’s on Team America. Period.

But Clinton just insulted 40% of American voters by calling them racists. Clinton literally – and publicly – turned on her own citizens.

Trump, by contrast, has attacked only professionals who are in the cage fight against him, including politicians on both sides, and the media. Judge Curiel is a professional (in a legal battle context). The reporter with the bad arm is a professional. Mr. Khan was acting as a professional because he entered the cage, armed. If you’re a professional – and can defend yourself – Trump doesn’t mind coming after you with a flamethrower.

But Clinton’s Alt-Right speech did not target professionals. Clinton attacked American citizens. Lots of them.

I’m also a professional in this context because I’m writing about politics. If Clinton criticizes me, that’s fair game. I knew what I was getting into. But if she goes after ordinary voters, that’s crossing a line. It is divisive to the point of treason. She crossed that line with the Alt-Right speech. If Trump lets that slide, it’s a mistake. I don’t think he will.

Read the whole thing.

[buccaneer morgan]

1984, it's a how to guide,

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/wow-pbs-chopped-green-party-nominee-jill-steins-criticism-hillary-video/

[Captain Hate]

This idiot uses social media as badly as Cher:

http://www.weaselzippers.us/291659-cnns-sally-kohn-writes-unsourced-opinion-piece-to-prove-her-point-that-there-are-progressive-muslims-who-believe-in-sharia-law/#disqus_thread

[buccaneer morgan]

scott shane, does a remarkable 'these droids aren't the ones we're looking for, when challenged by saudi sponsorship of salafism around the world,

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Bill Gross: Yellen's Economy "May Never Walk Normally Again, This Is Not Capitalism"
You're in good hands with the All State.