Hillary's Health

My goodness - even the Times feels obliged to run this AP story, albeit with a buried lead:

Clinton Says,' I'm Feeling Great'; Had Left 9/11 Event Early

NEW YORK — Hillary Clinton unexpectedly left Sunday's 9/11 anniversary ceremony in New York after feeling "overheated," according to her campaign, and retreated to her daughter's nearby apartment. As she exited the apartment shortly before noon, Clinton said, "I'm feeling great."

Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill said in a statement that the Democratic presidential nominee attended the morning ceremony for 90 minutes "to pay her respects and greet some of the families of the fallen.

"During the ceremony, she felt overheated so departed to go to her daughter's apartment, and is feeling much better," Merrill said.

The statement offered no additional details, including whether the 68-year-old Clinton required medical attention. A senior law enforcement official who was briefed on the matter said that after leaving the memorial plaza, Clinton was observed "fainting" in a departure area.

That official spoke on condition of anonymity, because he wasn't authorized to disclose information publicly.

Wow, what? She fainted yet again? It's only one source, but still...

The Twitterverse has video of Hillary stumbling and maybe fainting as she enters what looks like a hearse. Prior to the swoon an aide is bracing Hillary under her left arm while they wait for the car, so one presumes Hillary had complained about, or displayed, wobbliness.

As metaphors for her campaign go, I would say this is just about perfect - Dems will prop her up and drag her across the finish line whatever it takes.

BTW, I see right through this - the fainting spell is meant to distract us from her deplorable disdain for a huge slice of the American public.

I do love this coverage of our watchdog press:

Clinton's departure from the event was not witnessed by the reporters who travel with her campaign, which did not offer any information about why she left and her whereabouts for more than an hour. The campaign also did not take reporters in the motorcade after Clinton's departure from her daughter's apartment, and it was unclear where she was headed from there.

If she was headed off to a medical facility that would explain the secrecy.

THE TIMES VERSION: Timesfolk Jonathan Martin and Amy Chozick give their version. Some snippets:

Hillary Clinton, Feeling ‘Overheated,’ Leaves 9/11 Ceremony

...

Mrs. Clinton had arrived at the commemoration event around 8 a.m. and left at about 9:30. But for over an hour after that, her campaign would not offer any information about why she left early or where she was.

Video from the event taken by an attendee captured Mrs. Clinton struggling to steady herself and then stumbling as she stepped off a curb. She required assistance from two Secret Service agents to get into her van. The video, which was posted on Twitter, immediately ricocheted across the internet.

The word "faint" does not appear in their story. Yes, the question of whether she fainted is speculative, but it would have been be easy enough to quote someone offering that description if these "reporters" were so inclined.

So how hot was it?

Mrs. Clinton had arrived at the commemoration event around 8 a.m. and left at about 9:30. ...

...

Temperatures were in the low 80s on Sunday morning in New York, with considerable humidity.

We hear from a senior Republican also in attendance:

Other attendees at the event said afterward that Mrs. Clinton did not appear ill when she first arrived at the former site of the World Trade Center.

“She seemed fine,” said Representative Peter T. King, Republican of New York, who recalled greeting and speaking briefly with the former secretary of state around 8:30 a.m.

But about an hour later there was a minor commotion, Mr. King said. A number of New York’s current and former elected officials had been standing in silence as the names of the victims of the attacks were read. Suddenly, Mrs. Clinton, herself a former New York senator, left her position.

Mr. King said it was hot enough that officials working at the event offered the dignitaries bottles of water as they stood. But he noted that he did not see anybody accept a bottle.

NOT HELPING HERSELF:

Hillary brushes off talk of medical issues:

Asked whether she was concerned such questions about her health would affect the election, as the polls have tightened, Mrs. Clinton said, “I’m not concerned about the conspiracy theories. There are so many of them I’ve lost track of them.”

I guess she has lost track of the theory that the concussion has impaired her memory.

Be cool.

Comments

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

With her hand up like that she looked just like Brezhnev when they used to hand cart him out onto a Kremlin balcony just before he went fin up.

[henry]

Weekend at Chelsea's is the latest Hollywood remake.

[Pagar a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

Any report on others fainting.

[Robin, adorable deplorable me]

From the dead thread:

Beasts, lol.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-falls-ill-9-11-memorial-n-y-n646376

This has video of her entering the event. There is a steady breeze ruffling her hair and the trees around her. It's interesting to watch her move. She moves with the extreme care of someone in poor health. I know lots of energetic 70+ folks who move with vigor. Hell, my 71 year old dad still rollerblades.

She is not well. That she rebounds from episodes in a couple of hours points to something like Parkinson's. Damn. This is awful.

On that note, I am heading out into the beautiful September upstate NY sunshine to walk my dog and reflect on this wonderful country that produces so many of Mr. Roger's "helpers." Then, my first swing dance lesson. Can't. WAit.

[Threadkiller]

Someone please move JMH's political cartoon to this thread.

It is brilliant.

[Porchlight]

Clinton is unfit to serve, period.

[Pouncer]

Regarding deplorables:

It's not that deplorable voters or factions do NOT exist in the American population. The deplorable part of HC's remarks is the idea that all the deplorable groups support Trump.

What about those who would loosen laws to allow abortion clinics to cut up nearly-born babies for parts, stem cells, and experiments? I call that deplorable, and yet none of those advocates are likely to support Trump.

What about the La Raza groups who want California, Texas and states between to leave the US and return to Mexico as a Latino, Spanish speaking, region? Isn't this sort of succession talk deplorable? (And racist?)

What about groups who want to shut down much of our electrical supply -- nuclear, coal-fired, or even low-carbon-emission natural gas? Isn't reducing our standard of living a deplorable goal, and aren't most of the groups advocating such a radical change, Hillary supporters?

I'm sure there are others...

[henry]

The Dilbert take on this morning. Adams thinks it's over, persuasion wise.

[Jack is Deplorable! (But Hillary is Irresponsible)]

I've thinking about what Hillary could have as a medical condition.

clarice speculates it is Parkinson's and somone else Cystic Fibrosis but what if it something picked up on her overseas travels? What if it is something like TB? Or malaria? Or something even more unique and hard to diagnose and treat because of its lack of frequency and level of intensity?

[Threadkiller]

https://youtu.be/7J80mVXvs64

Did someone faint?

[Rocco]

I love upstate NY this time of year.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/srwc

[Threadkiller]

Polonium-210?

#Russians4Trump

[Beasts of England]

Lyme Disease!! ;)

[Porchlight]

Damn it. I want Trump to wreck her at the ballot box. I don't want a TKO.

[Threadkiller]

Cryme Disease

[Threadkiller]

Hillary on fainting in '08

https://youtu.be/78rfAAjriBo

[JM Hanes]

TK:

Happy to oblige - esp. since I posted it in response to the comment Ignatz moved over, too.

[Old Lurker]

Chiggers!

[JM Hanes]

JiB:

It could easily be something like Legionnaires disease she picked up in one of her hospital stays.

[Rocco]

Maybe she's desperate enough to play the bully card but will that fly? I'm not so sure.

[Beasts of England]

Hillary 2016. Sponsored by LifeAlert.

h/t The Horde

[Beasts of England]

lol, OL!!

[Pagar a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

Clarice,enjoyed your Pieces this morning. Thank you for making Sunday morning better.

[Porchlight]

Chris Shillizza at WaPo is forced to concede that yes, her health is now a legitimate campaign issue.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/11/hillary-clintons-health-just-became-a-real-issue-in-the-presidential-campaign/

Of course he manages to still blame the "conspiracy theorists" who noticed the obvious and didn't listen to him when he told us not to believe our lyin' eyes.

His main reasoning for concerrrrrn is that the campaign did not inform Important Reporters, such as himself, quickly enough.

[maryrose]

OL
You are so funny.
Hillary will stay I until the last despite the polls.
Her claim to fame is she is not a quitter.
Pagliano may be called before the investigating congressional committee.

[maryrose]

Porch:
I agree with a former poster.
Why are these reporters listening to some flaks from Hillary's campaign?
They can go anyplace they want to in New York.
I love that a random person got the footage despite the cease and desist order.
Hold her feet to the fire and yes they are still covering her deplorable remark despite her look squirrel activity.
She is going to go down hard because of her cover up and deceit.

[Rocco]

The coughing fits are just her way of reaching out to the Russian hackers, like she uses that fake southern accent when speaking to certain groups.

[the generalisticly deplorable rich]

great pieces this morning Clarice.

[Dave (in MA)]

Looks like one of her cankles gave out just as she reached the ambu-er, limousine. At least she wasn't coughing.

[Porchlight]

Exactly maryrose. They're reporters, right? So freaking report. There's plenty of information available.

Instead they confirm they're stenographers. Cilizza is obviously more angry about being made to look like a fool than he is about the campaign trying to deceive voters.

Editors are burning down phone lines currently trying to figure out an angle.

9/11 is a bad day for her. Murder will out.

[Dave (in MA)]

From Facebook, a guy I know from 7th grade says:

Eddie The person who took the iPhone video will be found dead in a ditch by Wednesday.
Like · Reply · 3 mins

Blame the video, that's the ticket.

[Threadkiller]

I agree with a former poster.

Wait... what??

I was told that there is no such thing as a former poster.

[Dave (in MA)]

It's like being a Marine, TK. The few. The proud. The lurking.

[the generalisticly deplorable rich]

>>>Blame the video, that's the ticket.

Posted by: Dave (in MA) | September 11, 2016 at 02:25 PM<<<

well they do have experience in that sort of thing.

bizarre in so many ways.

[Reset buttons of Madison County.]

Out, out, damned hot.

[Jack is Deplorable! (But Hillary is Irresponsible)]

RG pretty happy right now. He's at EverBank Stadium for the Packers v. Jags game. Jags just went up 17-14 on a nice Bortles pass play.

He may get a twofer: Gators yesterday and Jags today.

Did you all read Dilbert's latest where he called her van "a hearse" LOL.

[the generalisticly deplorable rich]

>>>Editors are burning down phone lines currently trying to figure out an angle.

9/11 is a bad day for her. Murder will out.

Posted by: Porchlight | September 11, 2016 at 02:19 PM<<<

I'm a bit bleary-eyed this afternoon, so I'm going to need help with this one.

[maryrose]

Dave:
So true!
Who knows who is lurking out there.
I wonder if any of Hillary's people know about JOM.
TK:
Poster today made that observation but I know you are just messing with
Me.
I have evolved.
I don't even take the Ryan or Cruz bait anymore.

[maryrose]

JIB
Yes I did and loved his summation.
I just thought of another caption
Bitch Going Down!
Pardon my French.

[Dave (in MA)]

It took the support of 3 or 4 people to keep her from going down like Building 7.

[Barbara]

Clinton is unfit to serve, period.

Porchlight,

This latest in a long series of episodes confirms that Hillary Clinton is seriously ill. I suspect that these episodes are just a manifestation of something that has been terribly wrong with her for a long period of time.

Clinton's history has been filled with bizarre behavior, the inappropriate laughing fits, the vicious verbal thrashings she distributes to any and all who are near, not to mention her tendency to violence at times (throwing things, hitting people with books). Even the quite unnecessary Clinton Foundation with its excesses of impropriety and the obnoxious pay to play racket display a person who has simply gone off the rails.

The Clintons were going to do well financially in their political after life. Soros and his associates were going to fund her future run(s) for political office. She could have served as Secretary of State and positioned herself for this campaign without the email scandals that plague her now. The stories that she makes up out of whole cloth (e.g. the Bosnia landing 'under fire', being harassed when taking the LSAT by a male student) have never been necessary to attain the attention she so craves.

Hillary Clinton's body is now showing the years of stress brought on by her own scheming and devious tactics. The coughing fits are one thing, but the exaggerated facial expressions bespeak a person who has slipped reality.

I'm reminded of a line by Robert Graves in the series, I Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out." That's what we are observing now. Let's hope that people are wise enough to see this and end her political career forever on November 8th.

[That's who we are.]

There'll be pity a plenty, and the pity will be for those so obsessed with her winning that they'll push this sick old woman beyond her physical capacity.

You can address almost any Hillary supporter and simply ask; Why is it necessary to do this to her?

[Beasts of England]

Dave wins the thread at 2:38. :)

[Dave (in MA)]

I'm a bit bleary-eyed this afternoon

Can't imagine why.

[maryrose]

rich
Have you tried a raw egg or the hangover?
Editors trying to make Hil look ok and minimize the damage of the physical collapse.Truth:
Hil needs drugs to keep her afloat
Her health report is a lie
Murder will out means the truth will come out and consequences will occur.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I don't think anyone with cystic fibrosis lives to Hillary's age do they?

[daddy #NEVERLISA]

E Pluribus UNUM

DE PLORABLE UNUM

[the generalisticly deplorable rich]

lol, Dave. lol.

[maryrose]

Barbara
I said the same thing to my husband this morning.
All those years of craven plotting and destroying people's lives now projects itself outward and the poison flows freely.

[the generalisticly deplorable rich]

Posted by: maryrose | September 11, 2016 at 02:41 PM

than you.

[maryrose]

Iggy:
Not usually.
Parkinson's is a possibility but I also think she takes medicine for mental illness with bipolar disorder being high on the list.

[the generalisticly deplorable rich]

thank you ...

[maryrose]

rich:
Hope you feel better!
I always read the late night posts in the morning to get my day off to a good start.

[the generalisticly deplorable rich]

YIKES. I'm actually not doing to badly.

[Beester]

I hope she saw the faces and heard the voices of Stevens, Smith, Doherty and Woods as she tumbled into her van. The evil bitch let them be slaughtered four years ago today. I have no pity for her. Can't stand the heat Hillary?

[Skeptical Voter]

You that rude guest who leaves the party early? It's good thing for Ms. Hillary that she was able to leave somewhat upright. The optics of leaving on a paramedics gurney just won't do.

[Robin, adorable deplorable me]

Love this video of Trump and Guiliani at Fire Station 1.

https://mobile.twitter.com/alivitali/status/774986021532557312/video/1

[Marlene]

Good afternoon. We're at a hotel near the Ft.Myers airport,we'll return to Maine at the crack of dawn tomorrow. I thought for sure that Hillary was taken to a hospital this morning,but just catching up,learned she went to Chelsea's apartment. There is no doubt she travels with medical attendants.
Anyway,hope she doesn't plan on campaigning in Florida,wow! It is hot! I'm going to appreciate it in January! : )

[Buford Gooch]

She's only mostly dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbE8E1ez97M

[Beasts of England]

Just watched Jeremy Hill of Cincinnati score on a fine run. He got up and took the ball over to the official and handed it to him. He then shook hands with his teammates. Impressive.

[Buckeye]

I think Hillary's medical issues result from her blood clot problem compounded by alcoholism.

Not to mention she is way fat and out of shape.

Heart attack and/or stroke waiting to happen.

[Beasts of England]

But I see his behavior off the field leaves quite a bit to be desired. Never mind.

[Robin, adorable deplorable me]

This is an interesting take from the Donald Reddit gang:

My wife is an NP and while we watched she pointed out that anti seizure medicine dramatically reduces your ability to deal with heat.
If someone is seizing you either let them seize or you dose them HEAVILY with Valium. This video is consistent with someone that has been dosed. Especially when you note that she walked out of Chelseas apt 2 hours later. You would follow this up with IV fluids, easily done at Chelseas.
Also, large close crowd, fatigue, noise would be seizure triggers. Obviously conjecture, but the pieces all fit.

[Porchlight]

Thanks maryrose, that's exactly what I meant.

I agree, Barbara. There is much bad juju currently manifesting itself.

rich, you're doing great. :)

Funny Reddit comment:
Guess she should have worn the pantsuit-kini.

[Threadkiller]

It looks like The Chiefs got the "lose at all costs" memo.

It is the Charger's last chance to stick San Diego with a ridiculous stadium.

#NFL-Scam

[Jim Eagle]

Robin,

Which brings me to the question as to wether she is wearing a P.I.C.C. line for all those IV's especially if she is COPD and seizure happy.

A wag on the local NYC radio (WOR) called in to the morning show and speculated she had Syphillis from Huma who got it from Weiner:)

[JM Hanes]

Porchlight:

Reading that Chris Cillizza column was the most political fun I've had all week! According to the time/date line, it's only been up for 4 hours, and it's already garnered 5752 comments. Looks like Chris has got a real hit on his hands.

[Jim Eagle]

Cough = Lungs
Alcohol = Lilver

Leave it to House to figure it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BO4AGiooi8

[Porchlight]

I can't bear to wade into the comments, JMH!

[Jim Eagle]

On the second hand maybe we should have Sheldon Cooper do the diagnosis:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Rz-dmMU_k

[JM Hanes]

Porchlight:

No point in trying, 'cause you'd never catch up! 12 minutes after I posted the number above, the total had topped 6,000. The comments are refreshing like a veritable twitter stream -- and most of the ones I caught were not not exactly sympathetic to Clinton or Cilizza. LOL

[JM Hanes]

So where does Dr. Drew go to get his show back?

[jimmyk]

Temperatures were in the low 80s on Sunday morning in New York, with considerable humidity.

High 70s, actually, and cloudy. This from the National Weather Service as of 9:00.

TIME CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES
9:00a Wall St Helipt CLOUDY 79 73 83 W8 29.91R

It was still a bit humid--the humidity broke and the sun came out around 10:00. I believe Hillary was taken away around 9:30. Still, nothing (other than standing in close proximity to Mayor Bane and Chuckie Schumer) that would have caused a healthy person any problem.

[Threadkiller]

Idiot Charger doesn't know the fix is in and leads with his helmet.

Chiefs may win by accident.

[henry]

Close, but no cigar for Jax.

[Matt]

Turn your head and cough, Ms. Clinton.

And so now we speculate on what the prognosis for Ms. Clinton may be. That she had to leave the 9/11 memorial early was probably the worst optic imaginable from any angle.

If she does have some form of mental illness is she to be automatically disqualified from office? We certainly don't want someone who may go into a depressive or psychotic episode with the launch codes.

Her Stalinesque speeches are also a strange indicator. Playing up to the LBGT crowd for yuks and denigrating the majority of the population are strange, strange moves. That is not where the votes are.

This weekend has become Hillary's very unfortunate series of events.

[Jim Eagle]

matt,

God love you for your commitment to help in the community of mental health. Forget Hillary. She is physically ill not mentally. But if you really want to help, go to the WaPo Cillizia story and his commenters. There is booming box office of truly mentally ill people and some if not most vote.

Seriously, read those comments and you'll see what I mean.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

They're having a special coin toss ceremony at the Cowboy game featuring Pres George W & Laura Bush. And they are playing a video GW made about 9/11. Very touching!

[JM Hanes]

A quick footnote to last night's conversation about Kazhak hunting, for the folks who just can't seem to lay their hands on a Golden Eagle....

We've got your 21st century urban solution right here:

[Jim Eagle]

TLG,

I hear its a special coin: Trump is heads and Clinton is tails.

[sbw]

George Bush’s msg was good. Couldn’t watch B.O’s. It was good to see Bush on this anniversary, whatever one may think of the GOPe.

[Porchlight]

Guess who has Spencer Ware on her fantasy team? :)

[Dave (in MA)]

Her Stalinesque speeches are also a strange indicator.

Summer, 2017.

President Hillary hasn't made a public appearance for a few days.

NPR begins playing somber music in place of its regular programming...

[Porchlight]

JMH, thanks for the report on the Cillizza comments. Some Dems aren't as in denial as others, it would seem.

[Jim Eagle]

Big weekend for the del Rio family: Luke the son drives the Gators to a big victory over Kentucky and Dad Jack brings it home for the Raiders against the Saints.

In other football news, Todd Beamer's son is a QB at Ronaldus Maximus' alma mater. "Lets Roll".

https://pjmedia.com/parenting/2016/09/11/911-hero-todd-beamers-son-is-all-grown-now-and-hes-playing-college-football/

[Beasts of England]

The W is back in Texas? I guess my ex was unsuccessful in kidnapping him at their hotel last night! :)

[BeenThereDoneThat]

Clinton and everyone in the Clinton 'network' - politicians left & right, foreign leaders, dictators, crony corps, shady investors, absolutely MUST get her into the White House. To allow Trump to win is to expose and bring down the mega-billion dollar enterprises and purchased seats of power that only exist because of the treacherously high crimes of graft, financial deception and bribery; not to mention the "careless" dispersion of State secrets.

Makes no difference if they have to wheel Hill into the Oval on a gurney, there's no trick they won't pull to get her there.

[Barbara]

Do any of you think this and other similar episodes will garner any sympathy votes for Clinton?

Or is it possible that those Democrats who support her might shy away from voting for her or perhaps might vote 3rd party or not vote at all?

My hope is that the voters will look at the two main candidates and choose Trump/Pence as the negative hits on Clinton just keep on coming.

It will be interesting to see what malarkey Obama comes up with as he hits the campaign trail in October. "Win just one more for the ________." (fill in the blank). {{{grrrrh!}}}

[DebinNC]

A look at HC's "episode" from the left side.
No way her "I'm fine" will fly.

[Barbara]

Cillizza comments ?

[DebinNC]

Barbara, comments re WaPo link posted above at 2:00 p.m

[Beasts of England]

Looks even worse from that angle, DebinNC!! She's not medically eligible to be president.

[daddy #NEVERLISA]

she stumbled off curb, "knees buckled", lost a shoe as she was helped into van

I'd like to see somebody pretending to be Trump do a reverse Cinderella with that lost shoe. Take it out to some Pig Farm and see which sow it'll fit on, or go to some drunk Tank in the bronX and do the same, trying to find which heifer it'll fit on perfectly.

[Free James D!]

I REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED HATE HATE HATE the REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED Dallas Cowboys.

Im going to have a heart attack before halftime of the opening game. REDACTED Giants can't do ANYTHING. $200 million spent on defense - worthless. Offense - worthless.

Great move pushing Tom Coughlin out but keeping the GM who built a team with the worst OL in the league, no tight end, no decent linebackers and can't cover receivers or rush the passer.

I am sick.

[DebinNC]

Interesting posts re HC's collapse at the Treehouse like ...
She was leaning against that concrete post. Once she tried to support her own weight, she collapsed. As others have said, the telling thing is that her detail and aides were not surprised or panicked. Lots of people know exactly what is going on with her, but they are either too afraid or loyal to let the rest of us know. I got overheated standing in line for a Trump rally recently. Everyone around me including strangers were fanning me with whatever they had and handing me water. No one around her was acting like she was overheated. That’s just another lie.
[from poster NoOneButTrump}

[jimmyk]

Looks even worse from that angle, DebinNC!! She's not medically eligible to be president.

C'mon, I'm sure she was just overcome with emotion from the 911 memorial ceremony.

[Porchlight]

Looks like a seizure to me. She seemed as if she was stiffening up before she fell.

Sanjay Gupta on CNN said she should stay in NY for testing and not go to CA as planned.

Imagine how jittery supporters and donors are going to be at every single appearance from now on.

[JM Hanes]

I was reading Peggy Noonan's 9/11 column this morning, along with several others, celebrating incredible acts of heroism, both seen and unseen, that took place that day. They are inspiring stories, which deserve to be told and commemorated, but I found myself feeling that they somehow miss the mark this year. What about the doofus in the mail room? Or the slacker hanging out to gossip at the water cooler? And the terrified, helpless, ones who needed help figuring out how to survive? What seems the saddest thing to me today is all the stories that aren't inspiring enough to interest us, that no one will ever write about or remember, the ones about all those unremarkable, ordinary people who should still be going to work every morning, but are just gone. Our people, warts and all. Disappeared in a cloud of smoke.

[Porchlight]

Very true, and very sad, JMH.

[Jim Eagle]

BTW, any questions about Hillary's health should be forwarded to Lisa. She's her personal medico.

http://www.caremountmedical.com/directory/people/show/lisa-bardack/