Night Of Indecision, Round One

it's Dreadful vs. Awful, Take One. I can't imagine either candidate changing my mind but there are plenty of undecideds out there to be swayed. Over to Nate Silver, who is taking flak for exposing ardent progressives to the notion that the nation just isn't that into Hillary:

Not all 2-point leads are created equal, and Clinton’s is on the less-safe side, certainly as compared with the roughly 2-point lead that President Obama had over Mitt Romney on the eve of the 2012 election.

Perhaps the most important reason for that is the higher-than-usual number of undecided and third-party voters. Clinton leads Trump roughly 42-40, based on our national polling average; late in the 2012 race, by contrast, Obama led Romney about 48-46. That means about 18 percent of the electorate isn’t yet committed to one of the major-party candidates, as compared with 6 percent late in 2012.¹ The number of undecided and third-party voters has a strong historical correlation with both polling volatility and polling error — and in fact, the polls have been considerably more volatile this year than in 2012.

 

Comments

[Pagar a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

My debate home!

[BeenThereDoneThat]

Goody!

[daddy on iPad on the Library run]

I already voted. (Yawn.) When's the Football Game start?

[Porchlight]

Indecision. Yeah, that's definitely not it. :)

[henry the deplorable]

Have beer, will observe for a while before relying on notes here.

[BeenThereDoneThat]

No yawning allowed, daddy - we need you primed up for pithy comments!

[Dinah blow your horn.]

Reddit Gazette, Og!

[BR]

I won't be watching, but I'll hover around and for those who are watching:

Freedom from contamination by association :)

[henry the deplorable]

Apparently "Godzilla - King of Monsters" is not the debate. I though it was MSM speak for Trump... need more beer and my remote.

[Buckeye]

I'm yawning already, hope Trump is fired up. Hume and BOR are putting me to sleep

[Miss Marple 2, Deplorable and Proud of it]

I will check in from time to time. There is one candidate who is dreadful and awful. On the other hand, I happen to like Trump a lot so will follow the debate on his web site and comment here from time to time.

Lots of internet sites are loading slow tonight, so I imagine everyone and his brother is watching.

I know that there are large numbers in Britain, Australia, and many countries in Europe watching.

[daddy on iPad on Taco Bell drive through]

Fact-Checking: Hillary’s 'The FBI Has Exonerated Me' Claim
BY ANDREW C. MCCARTHY SEPTEMBER 26, 2016

I recall transcribing George Wiils exact phrase that "if the FBI did not recommend her for indictment she could claim
With some justification that she was innocent."

It was Bulls*** then and it's still Bulls*** George.

[Second Law of Voterdynamics.]

However, at least half of that 18% is committed to Stein or Johnson, so the nation isn't so uncommitted as may seem.

I still believe there are more turning from Hillary than from Trump.

It took no commitment to prefer Hillary, but it always has to prefer Trump.

[Miss Marple 2, Deplorable and Proud of it]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-reaches-292-electoral-votes-in-new-tracking-poll/article/2602872?custom_click=rss

[Beasts of England]

Drink!!

Oh. Sorry. Just getting ready...

[GUS]

FIRST!!!!

[henry the deplorable]

I'm way ahead of you Beasts.

[daddy on iPad on Taco Bell drive through]

I'll be on the dog walk with the headsets BTDT. Sorry.

[Beasts of England]

You're a pro, henry. :)

[Skoot]

Did clot waddle out of the rear doors of the van? B. Dicker exited the side doors then they cut away. Her face looked terrible. Something like fuzzy slippers on her feet! What an entrance.

[Beasts of England]

I would think most of those preferring Hillary are already in her corner, ergo, more of the undecideds will eventually trend toward DJT.

[henry the deplorable]

They have to time the meds Skoot.

[Jim Eagle]

Saints up 7-0 but Falcons on the move.

Just back from Meet the Teacher night after the wake for my neighbor.
Beasts, she was up until Sunday, the oldest living member of Shinnecock Hills Golf Club. Went to school with my dad.

[Beasts of England]

Hofstra University placed a 'Trigger Warning' placard outside of the debate hall, specifically regarding sexual violence, sexual assault and abuse. Wow.

[Beasts of England]

Dang, JiB - that's impressive! Didn't know they had female members. Also impressive. :)

[lyle]

I'm drinking a fine Trump merlot... 😎

[the deplorable buccaneer morgan]

they get no respect and deserve none,

http://www.weaselzippers.us/297799-hofstra-university-charging-reporters-200-for-wifi-access-personal-wifi-hotspots-are-banned/

[lyle]

It's yuge.

[Porchlight]

They conveniently had her get out of the van on the side hidden from the camera. Looking tired and glum already. Red power suit and what looked like red lipstick. Lots of makeup.

[maryrose]

TM
Thank you for the new thread!

[Jim Eagle]

Saints brain fart on punt return leads to fumble and Falcons TD.

7-7. Understand they are bringing the debate on the big TV at the superdome if the Saints don't score next possession.

[maryrose]

Porch:
She got a new coif which is supposed to make her look younger.
My dream scenario is she starts to take a header, faints and Trump catches her.
I know, I have become evil.

[Totally Deplorable Centralcal]

Porch: Isn't is past Hillary's bedtime?

[henry the deplorable]

And next is a tribute to modern pharmacology. The Clinton cocktail is not FDA approved... don't med to these levels at home.

[Porchlight]

She had a final mock debate this morning! Then naptime.

[the deplorable buccaneer morgan]

nor do this without consulting a physician and signing a release,

http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/09/26/right-evan-mcmullin-might-last-valid-candidate-running-president/

[Jim Eagle]

Beasts,

Shinnecock first to have women when it opened in 1894. Always women, women's day and Ladies championship since the same date. All the other USGA original clubs were way behind. My mom was a clubhouse member since she didn't play golf but bridge and lunch:)

[maryrose]

Hey CC !

[fdcol63]

Just wondering how much of a cluster f*** this will be.

Any bets on when Hillary will have a seizure or when Trump goes off on a rant?

[the deplorable buccaneer morgan]

hey br how have you been?

[PD]

Megan is speaking in golf-commentator voice.

[henry the deplorable]

I no longer care if Hilligula has a seizure, as long as Shemp has one. When do these idiots shut up?

[peter]

watching on CSpan to keep the idiocy to a minimum

[PD]

Bret is modulating down to match.

[Deplorable Robin, aka Highland Pepe]

Classical music playing on live stream. Am I missing something?

[fdcol63]

Maybe Megan will have a seizure.

[Jim Eagle]

Late start as usual for Hillary. Not ready for prime time.

There was a murder in Hempstead today. Woman caught in a cross fire sitting in her car. Little Chicago hosts a debate, heh!

[Jim Eagle]

Power Red.

"How are you Donald:)"

[Beasts of England]

Very nice, JiB!!

[PD]

Wow, Trump shakes Ill Hill's hand *and* puts his hand on her back. An obvious attempt to assert male dominance.

[henry the deplorable]

Brutal blinking.

[fdcol63]

Record economic growth? What planet is Lester on?

[Beasts of England]

Granddaughter - drink!!

[clarice]

I read a persuasive article today saying less than 1% of likely voteres were undecided, and the debate--despite the hype--is unlikely to substantially change the vote.

[Jim Eagle]

I'm a grandma. Well guess what, so is Donald.

I have plan which means more income redistribution.

[the deplorable buccaneer morgan]

lester puts a spin on the ball, from the get go,

[henry the deplorable]

Forced profit sharing? Do we get forced loss sharing too?

[peter]

make up applied with a trowel and there's that eye thing already.

[PD]

In the same class as Pelosi Blinking?

[Jim Eagle]

...grandparent....

Condenscending, to Donald.

[the deplorable buccaneer morgan]

ceta alpha 6

[peter]

Donald already sounds more confident and more real--after half a sentence.

[anonamom; formerly adorable, now deplorable]

She looks awful. Helmet hair, lipstick too red for the color of her outfit, and that is unflattering to her complexion.
Way too much pancake.

[PD]

Whoops, Trump forgot to thank the people putting on the debate, Holt, and Hillary at the beginning of his opening remarks.

[Beasts of England]

Exactly, henry...

[Threadkiller]

Why thank these pricks?

[It's 1960 again.]

Heh, five o'clock eyeshadow.

[peter]

memorized catch phrases already starting to spill out.

[Marlene]

Does her eye look weird or do I need more wine?

[fdcol63]

He should call America "Hillary Hell" if she gets elected.

[henry the deplorable]

Her father was a squeegee guy? She's babbling.

[Jim Eagle]

Is she wearing one of those drapery fabrics tonight?

[peter]

both, Marlene

[Deplorable Momto2]

She has overdone the make-up. Probably overdone the debate prep,too. (Has she overdone the meds...we will see.)

[Totally Deplorable Centralcal]

Greetings Maryrose!!!

[the deplorable buccaneer morgan]

didn't he own some kind of mill?

[peter]

I want you to be very happy!

[peter]

Lester leaps in.

[daddy "TinnySaiSai Tuck"]

Lester makes his first interruption.

Lets keep a tally.

[Buford Gooch]

I lasted through 11 minutes. Yay me!

[Beasts of England]

What's up with his sniffling?

[peter]

sardonic smirk--careful, the makeup might crack

[peter]

Ok, she's been told to provoke.

[lyle]

Grilling some Trump steaks. Beautiful. I made the Mexican lawn guys pay for them. They were happy to do so.

[henry the deplorable]

Oh.... taxes were too low in 2007. All those Dems in Fanny & Freddy had nothing to do with it.

[peter]

If only Trump could explain that it was Bill Clinton's HUD that caused the financial meltdown in the first place.

[henry the deplorable]

She's getting louder by the second.

[fdcol63]

More Solyndras! Yay!

[Jim Eagle]

Clean Energy for those who don't mind not having TV or washing machines when they want them.

[clarice]

Actually, I think she's doing well--lying thru her ass but still.

[peter]

clean energy superpower of the 21st century--is that Spain?

[the deplorable buccaneer morgan]

and the justice department's nudge to the banks, all of whom have maxed for red queen,

[Threadkiller]

He has had that sniff fpr as long as I can remember. They have figured out how to amplify it.

[Beasts of England]

Enough solar panels to power every home? Unpossible.

[PD]

Why thank these pricks?

Because it's polite and you sound like you don't realize it's an honor to be here?

It rarely the wrong thing to begin by being considerate.

[daddy "TinnySaiSai Tuck"]

Listening on the radio. She sounds pretty good at the start. Very well practiced answers. Just saying. I don't believe what she is saying. Momma keeps interupting so I'm am missing his replies.

[Jim Eagle]

Trump is the Dilbert POTUS candidate because of his language. Simple plain words that resonate with Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania. She is very Ivy League, he is joe sixpack.

[Threadkiller]

I think she is getting answers from her earrings

[peter]

I think my husband did a pretty good job in the 1990s

[henry the deplorable]

Smug is not a good look on her