Compounding Confusion

The NY Times scores a telephone interview with Donald Trump and delivers a second paragraph that is utterly cryptic but has some real newsiness to it. Here we go fro the top:

Donald Trump Opens New Line of Attack on Hillary Clinton: Her Marriage

By PATRICK HEALY and MAGGIE HABERMAN   SEPT. 30, 2016

Donald J. Trump unleashed a slashing new attack on Hillary Clinton over Bill Clinton’s sexual indiscretions on Friday as he sought to put the Clintons’ relationship at the center of his political argument against her before their next debate.

Mr. Trump, aiming to unnerve Mrs. Clinton, even indicated that he was rethinking his statement at their last debate that he would “absolutely” support her if she won in November, saying: “We’re going to have to see. We’re going to see what happens. We’re going to have to see.”

So what does it mean that he was "rethinking his statement at their last debate that he would “absolutely” support her if she won in November"? Let's start by going back to the debate transcript, where the question was about supporting the outcome of the electoral process, not the other candidate:

HOLT: One of you will not win this election. So my final question to you tonight, are you willing to accept the outcome as the will of the voters? Secretary Clinton?

CLINTON: Well, I support our democracy. And sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But I certainly will support the outcome of this election.

And I know Donald’s trying very hard to plant doubts about it, but I hope the people out there understand: This election’s really up to you. It’s not about us so much as it is about you and your families and the kind of country and future you want. So I sure hope you will get out and vote as though your future depended on it, because I think it does.

HOLT: Mr. Trump, very quickly, same question. Will you accept the outcome as the will of the voters?

TRUMP: I want to make America great again. We are a nation that is seriously troubled. We’re losing our jobs. People are pouring into our country.

The other day, we were deporting 800 people. And perhaps they passed the wrong button, they pressed the wrong button, or perhaps worse than that, it was corruption, but these people that we were going to deport for good reason ended up becoming citizens. Ended up becoming citizens. And it was 800. And now it turns out it might be 1,800, and they don’t even know.

HOLT: Will you accept the outcome of the election?

TRUMP: Look, here’s the story. I want to make America great again. I’m going to be able to do it. I don’t believe Hillary will. The answer is, if she wins, I will absolutely support her.

Obviously, Trump gave a bit of a bum answer. Although we retain the concept of a Loyal Opposition, no one expects Hillary to support the policies and legislative proposals of President Trump, nor did she promise to do so - she appropriately indicated, talk being cheap, that she would accept the outcome of the election with grace.

Trump obviously should have stuck with something similar. His phrasing, "if she wins, I will absolutely support her", is ludicrous on the face of it. We certainly hope he will support the outcome of the process but we also hope and expect him to fight Hillary's likely policies and judicial nominees with at least the vim and vigor she and other Democrats would oppose him.

So now he is re-thinking a poorly phrased response. Meaning what? Lacking an interview transcript I have no idea whether he hinted that he is planning to fight an election result he already thinks is rigged, or simply made the obvious point that he will applaud politely during her inauguration but almost surely oppose most of her policies, although he is "going to have to see".

The Times seemed pretty excited in the second paragraph but not excited enough to come back to this. That makes me guess they want their readership to guess the worst but don't have the scary quotes to back that up.

Whatever - there is no chance of honest reporting from the Times over the next seven weeks.

Comments

[sbw]

MM, (I know this is unlikely to ever occur, but, in theory,) ask your daughter if, to make plans for her best future, she depends on what she hears others say.

Then ask her what happens to her best future when others lie to her.

If others don’t respect you enough to be straight with you, you owe them nothing.

[Threadkiller]

Cashill:

http://www.wnd.com/2016/09/lester-holt-doesnt-know-jack-about-obama/

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

sbw,

How many Trump signs in your neck of the NY woods?

I know there is a underground movement but the the media and their letters to the editors campaign make it depressing.

Going down to our place in Florida Thursday for the first time since mid June 2015. Get to see where all the money has gone.

[DrJ]

OL,

MY email gets maybe 3 spams a day; HERS gets ten times that many...

So why do I get about 500 spam per day? Yes, I do my own spam filtering, but that still is a lot!

[Old Lurker]

DrJ... 500/d? that would be unbearable!

[Old Lurker]

"New York Times forfeits ethics
in publishing Trump taxes

The Hill, by Joe Concha"

Seriously? Do you not first have to possess a thing before you can forfeit it?

[Beasts of England]

Uncle!! :)

[Old Lurker]

:-) Beasts

[DrJ]

OL, yes, 500 spam email messages per day. My spam filter (now trained pretty well) gets about 95% of them.

[Old Lurker]

DrJ, does your ISP screen any before you get them?

[clarice b. for Brainiac]

Quinny to the contrary notwithstanding:http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/02/exclusive-tens-thousands-projected-see-donald-trump-colorado/

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

My Ceaser Chicken Salad is going to be great. Actually yuge.

4 Chicken thighs roasting in the oven with torn thumb sized ciabbata bread, chopped rosemary, salt and pepper all smothered in Olive oil. Then we tear it all apart and make our dressing with creme fraiche and romaine, plus some smothered anchodies. Yummy

[DrJ]

OL, no, the ISP was screening out too many important email messages. So we get them all (we is MrsJ and I -- we have different addresses and domains).

[clarice b. for Brainiac]

http://www.wnd.com/2016/09/lester-holt-doesnt-know-jack-about-obama/
TK--You'll love this.

[Beasts of England]

Why is Drudge running with this love child crap? It strikes me as very misguided...

Judges?

[Deplorable Momto2]

Sadly, looking at the weather channel, it appears Haiti is in line for flooding and destruction again!

Will the MSM make any comments or investigate the Clintons' role in the last Haiti disaster?

Oh, I'm sure they'll get right on it!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/by-the-numbers-the-clinton-speech-scam

Detailed critique by the Trump campaign of the Clintons collecting all that money.

Bonus: All citations are to CNN. Bwahahahaha!

[Mandy Stirling]

PD,

First of all Comcast is not your responsibility. Let them sue her estate. (I'm sure it is not that much money, and certainly not enough for a law suit.)

If you decide to pursue it, go up the ladder. No one in management would ever agree to that BS. Whoever is chasing you is clueless. Make sure you tell management that your entire extended family is ready to cancel Comcast forever, if they pursued this debt. A smart person will send the word down.

[derwill]

--Why is Drudge running with this love child crap? It strikes me as very misguided...--

Just a guess, but maybe because he's half black and he's claiming Hillary "banished" him. Makes her look not only mean but racist.

[Deplorable Momto2]

PD - If Comcast refuses to back down, threaten to report them to Clark Howard.

"When you think of companies that have been in The Hall of Shame year after year for abysmal customer no service, Comcast is near or at the top of the list! Clark Howard

[Threadkiller]

:-) clarice

[Porchlight]

Oh BOE - when I read this I could hear my dad's voice in my head saying, "That is exactly why they have a second home on Nantucket.

I can hear my dad saying the same thing!

We have the smartest dads, don't we folks?

[maryrose]

Hi Mandy
Glad to see you posting!
OL:
A penny saved is a penny earned.
So glad you have a place in Nantucket to relax and enjoy life!

[maryrose]

Porch:
My dad said the same thing. Now even my sister admits that dad was right about everything.

[maryrose]

My dad also joked " You may sink into his arms but in the future your arms will be in the sink doing dishes."

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Porchlight,

HA! Here, have a coat.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

MY dad said, "What in the hell are you doing wearing eye make-up! Only floozies wear that."

(1965)

It was HELL being the oldest daughter! You have to fight all the battles and then everyone else gets, "OK. Mini-skirts, whatever."

[Beasts of England]

Fair points, derwill - she is reported to be a bit racist, but who knows.

[Beasts of England]

A penny saved is an opportunity cost. :)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Well, this seems rather important and disturbing:

http://www.infowars.com/exclusive-hillary-killed-libya-peace-deal-over-personal-vendetta-claims-whistleblower/

I no longer discount stuff from Infowars. They have been right enough that I pay attention to what they say.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

MM & JIB - re: Your reporting on Trump's speech today? Here is the MSM's take on one part of it- warning you won't be happy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/03/donald-trumps-gaffe-on-veterans-and-ptsd-shows-just-what-an-amateur-he-still-is/

[buccaneer morgan]

don't pay chris cilizza or his kramerica intern much mind,

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/09/30/poll-7-percent-of-voters-have-lost-friends-over-2016-presidential-race/

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

TLG @ 6:28.

Total BS. Read his words carefully. He's right.

MAGA.

[buccaneer morgan]

so it looks like the storms westward track comes in
on thursday,

[anonamom; formerly adorable, now deplorable]

It's news that Trump isn't exactly the most articulate guy in the room?
WaPo must have been jealous of the NYT's non-story on the no taxes.

TLG, that story is exactly what people are looking for--a guy who clearly was trying to express his sympathy, not some lying politician who's rehearsed the empty platitudes enough to send out a perfect sound bite for the evening news.

The loser in this election--MSM. They've been exposed for the lazy ass partisans they are.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I fail to see how the Libya story can't be covered. There are documents and 2 witnesses, and that is before whatever Wikileaks has.

Bernie voters should realize she will kill anyone who didn't support her. That's what happened to Ghadafffi.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

Buc,

We are back this thursday. Come over to Hammock Dunes for drinks and dinner. Friday is best. You can dine with the croquet crowd. Bunch of rowdy Tumpers. The Prez is a former Test pilot for the Navy. too many heroes playing croquet instead of golf. Why is that? Loss of limbs or movement?

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

Happy Rosh Hassanah to all our Jewish friends on JOM.

"They tried to kill us. We won. Lets eat"

[Deplorable Momto2]

Yes, Porch, it's so funny how those comments stick like glue in your memory. The minute I read that Comcast comment I could hear his exact voice saying that because I've heard it so often.

Other favorites: "If Susie jumps off a cliff, are you going to jump, too?" And, "You don't have to brush all of your teeth, just the ones you want to keep!" If I ever said, "but everybody's doing xyz" I was told, "We're not Everybody!"

[Texas Liberty Gal]

JIB & anonamom - You're both exaxtly right. I've already fired off a letter to the weasel Aaron Blake who's peddling it.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

Off to bed. Long day. Slaap lekker. tots morgen..

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Live stream, Trump rally, Loveland, colorado:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrwPYqDrKPI

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Beneral Flynn up now.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

General Flynn.

[sbw]

JiB, in our territory we see few signs but most of those visible are Trump!. Of the others, more Bernie than Hillary and on old eco-cars.

Mislabeled PACs trying to look conservative but really liberal are running TV ads trying to defeat the candidate who won the Republican nomination on Hanna’s retirement. She is ahead in the polls.

And I don’t know why Schumer is running "I love me" TV ads.