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November 20, 2016



AP - Trump's doings today ... Mrs. Trump and 10 yo son will move into the WH at the end of this school year ... Trump and Pence attended a Presbyterian church service together this morning ...


Apparently the NYT has figured out that the Constitution does not apply to the President in regards to foreign gifts.

According to immediate past precedent, if the president decides to do it, it must be legal.



Just a tragic lack of empathy. Talk about the shoes no one wants to walk in.


That "booed by passengers" story was very badly written imo. Writer admits not knowing if the passengers had a clue "the military family" they were letting off first had lost a loved one. Unclear if "the flight was 45 min. late" meant the passengers were already peeved and being confined longer added to their disgruntlement.

deus volt buccaneer morgan

the al sheikhs have been the senior Wahhabi clerical clan, for three centuries, since the alliance with the Saud clan, now the doctrinal straightjacket only goes so far, one of the younger cohort, who was at the rehabilitation center with al ahehri, turned out to be gay,


More from AP: "Pence also says repealing President Barack Obama's health care plan is the new administration's first priority. He says Trump "wants to focus out of the gate" on repealing "Obamacare."

I hope I've just missed indications that Ryan, McConnell, and Trump have agreed on a way forward on repeal/replace. I don't think I can take stories of Paul laying mines or putting up roadblocks.

deus volt buccaneer morgan

apparently nico was just too controversial,



SpeakerRyan tweets ... R leadership touting their new "Better Way" agenda. Didn't see any mention of Trump.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


I am not discussing that subject here. You can go to the sites on Reddit to do so. I read them frequently.

Breaking up whatever nefarious stuff is going on does not depend on what I comment on here.

I choose not to.



common man

The House has passed repeal legislation several times. Lets not look for conflict where its unlikely to exist. If there is a problem with repealing Zerocare, it will be in the Senate and not from McConnell. Democrats and perhaps a squish or two.


Guess I am not banned after all. TyphusPad sux.

Daddy, thanks for the Counterfeiter's story. Mrs. Buckeye got a chuckle out of the ear chopping. We figure between the 2 of us we had numerous "no account" ancestors.



OH that's right, I forgot Clarice scolded you


Referring to Porch's thoughts on fake information web sites from the previous thread I'd like to share my experience regarding one on twitter.

I was blythely going along retweeting my followers comments/posts that seemed reasonable until something horrid happened.

One of the retweets was of a site called (be really careful if you do go there) the real strategy dot com. A bogus conservative site that made up all kinds of garbage to sabotage Ds.

What that one retweet did was cause the site to start posting on my timeline all kinds of horrid, made up carp and I couldn't get it to stop.

Went into cookies and removed that. Didn't work. Wrote to support on twitter and finally after about 24 hours twitter worked with me to stop the unwanted postings.
I literally had to watch my timeline and delete, delete, delete.

It was a nerve wracking because I've got some great twitter pals and didn't want to lose them. Did lose a few, tho.

So this fake news is a problem and an invidious one at that.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

"Better way."
Wow! That is really an exciting and inspiri...Zzzzzzz Zzzzzzz

God I hope Trump whips those numbats into some kind of shape. As is they couldn't beat a team of Dem campfire girls.

deus volt buccaneer morgan

dejavu all over again,


well lets see if they actually send repeal legislation with teeth to him, or will they insist on the mythical 60 vote threshhold

Jim Eagle


Another question, if you were or even not queer, what bars or clubs would you visit in Chicago?

I just want to get the next chapter right.


Mitch McConnell tweets - at least he mentions meeting with Trump-Pence. The pic of McConnell and Pence facing each other, hands by their sides, each with a look of incredulity, does not inspire confidence. One thing I'll give BOzo, he knows the importance of optics and makes sure he looks good in any WH released pic.

Captain Hate

The NFL Commish and the go-along owners are culo kissers of the highest order.

They pretty much screwed the fans of Lost Angeles by making them take Mr. 7-9, Jeff Fisher, as a package deal with the Rams.


Seems to me the hysterics of the young (and not-so-young) are looking more pilious by the day, with every sober and on-track appointment. People should have learned something from the excellence of Pence's nomination. Trump is a serious man and attends to business.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


In one sense you are right. I have ben stung by bogus sites myself. Even clarice got hoodwinked by a parody site just a few days ago.

However, the "fake news" that the big social media places are talking about isn't like what happened to you.

They are targeting Infowars, Breitbart, and places like that.


Didn't Dennis Hastert give you the low-down?

deus volt buccaneer morgan

what happened with west Virginia, did they get a clue at the end, I meant to ask jack, how long are you going to be down here for?

deus volt buccaneer morgan

I call them samizdat outlets, like the dissident pamphlets that told the truth unlike tass, isvestia and Pravda, it's a gonzo time, and 'when the going gets weird, the weird go pro'

Jim Eagle


Coming down Tuesday evening and I am leaving on Sunday driving Mrs. JiB's new Land Rover back to Southampton. They fly back on Sunday.

Want to get together for a coffee? Java Joint in Flagler Beach?

Captain Hate

what happened with west Virginia, did they get a clue at the end

Big game Bob's halftime speech probably confused his players.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

They're hairy?


Pic of BOzo in Peru next to Putin who seems uninterested in anything he might be saying. Scroll down for the traditional dress group pic with BOzo et al wearing "serapes" or as AP reports "scarves". No way would BOzo don a pancho, which is the true national attire.

Jim Eagle

And with that, I am off to the upstairs bed chambers to read some more. Enough with the chill outside. We may get flurries later this night.

henry - drunk on prog tears

Deb, they put Bozo in the back row... must have learned from the part.


APEC summit group pic showing BOzo obscured in back row-far right and the telegenic Canadian PM shown fully, standing tall in the front row.


One more example of his moral superiority!

(someone explained he implies taking advantage of drunk white girls on St. Patty's Day)

Brandon Victor DixonVerified account
St. Patty's day weekend is like Christmas for black dudes who like white chicks. Happy holidays boys.
@reesewaters #seasonsgreetings

deus volt buccaneer morgan

so is this the fake real news or the real fake news,


there's this helprin like allegory, the grisha series by leigh bardugo, which has Russian and dutch references

Jim Eagle

Bozo is irrelevant and he knows it as well as his so called friends. Wait until the Donald shows up. Where do you think he will insist on standing. Not in the back, I can assure you.


Obambi and the executive significant other have accepted gifts of free work from charities with government agencies. No RFPs and Qs, no contract announcements. Maybe make sure no charges rather than coming out with new rules...

deus volt buccaneer morgan

maybe I should do an update post



Misspelled--my fault. "Has anyone ever pinched into its pilulous smallness the cobweb of pre-matrimonial acquaintance?"--Eliot, Middlemarch.


So BVD claims moral superiority, eh?

Beasts of England

It's been a while since the wonderful chefs at JOM have exchanged recipes. With the holiday upon us, I'd love to examine a few favorites from the group!! I'm trying to reconstruct a delicious oyster dressing recipe an will share it soon.

Be right back...

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I hope that Susan Branch chick doesn't make that same connection between Trump and that Hamilton dude you did, daddy.
By the time she's done she won't have any readers, left, right or center.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

As a former fanatical Raiders fan you have my sympathy for the wilderness years since their greatness dissolved with Al Davis's dotage.


They are targeting Infowars, Breitbart, and places like that

Yes, MM. Kinda had forgotten about that part of the guess it would be called backlash by progs.

Only go thru very trusted sources now.


Easy peasy fresh cranberry sauce recipe--put bag of cranberries with about a cup of sugar sprinkled thereon in the oven at 200 degrees for about a half hour (on cookie sheet, until cranberries are squishy). Then in blender put resulting cranberry mush, half cup orange juice, and about 2/3 cup of orange marmalade; blend. Add sugar or fake sugar to taste. Has a beautiful flavor AND texture.


The Franklin Cover-Up & Johnny Gosch Story


deus volt buccaneer morgan

I found their historical analysis but not definitive,



If there is a problem with repealing Zerocare, it will be in the Senate and not from McConnell. Democrats and perhaps a squish or two.



Tom McClintock for speaker!

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Will try top get the family persimmon pudding recipe tomorrow. It's a traditional one in Indiana (lots of persimmon trees).

Requires baking in oven and stirring every 20 minutes for 3 hours. Probably not one people will jump to copy.

My sister is in charge of making it. That is all she makes for Thanksgiving, due to the time consuming nature of the recipe.

deus volt buccaneer morgan

meathead is just getting meatier in his dotage,

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Pilulous: adj. Like a pill, small, insignificant.

New one on me Potter-Pirbright.
I thought you meant bilious.

Beasts of England

I've made this several times, but had messed with the quantity of oyster more than once. I'm showing three dozen below, but if you want it to be more 'oystery', you can go with four. :)

Oyster Dressing à la Beasts


1 loaf stale French bread, cubed
1/4 lb. unsalted butter
1/4 cup olive oil
1/2 stalk celery, chopped
2 medium onions, chopped
3 bunches of green onions, chopped
1 garlic clove, chopped
1/2 bunch of parsley, chopped
3 dozen oysters, chopped (save liquid)
1 tbsp Basil
1 tsp Thyme
salt and cracked pepper to taste


Melt butter with the olive oil, and then sauté the celery, onions, and green onions with the herbs and garlic until softened. Add the coarsely chopped, oysters - saving the oyster liquid - and sauté. Briefly soak the stale bread in the oyster liquid and then gently squeeze out the excess liquid. Add the bread to the celery mixture.

Cook the mixture on low-medium heat for 30 minutes - covered - stirring occasionally to prevent sticking. Add reserved oyster water sparingly, as needed - being careful not to let the mixture become dry. Cook another 15 minutes uncovered, stirring constantly.

Let the dressing cool thoroughly before stuffing the bird, or putting it in the refrigerator.

Beasts of England

I like cranberry sauce, Catsmeat - thanks!

Never ever heard of that, Miss Marple. Sounds intriguing!!

deus volt buccaneer morgan

re fillon, he's not an ENArque,

In 2012 in a country where foreign citizens are traditionally held to a devoir de réserve (non-involvement in politics) Fillon challenged the conviction accorded to Eva Joly (a French citizen but of Norwegian origin)'s expression. He subsequently suggested that Jews and Muslims abandon their traditional food practices (but has since apologised). Earlier as Minister for Education he had strongly advocated restriction on the wearing of religious signs in schools and other 'public' places.

Miss Marple the Deplorable



I know you like General Keane a lot and apparently so did Trump. His decline was due to personal issues due to his wife dying in June.

The Gipper Lives

To paraphrase O'Rourke:

"Barky's press conference was a long one. There are no brief excuses for Communism."


Anonamon, I wrote a really long post about suggestions for helping with your friend. They were more practical, as for day-to-day life, not the religious, metaphysical, nor emotional. Anyway, after I wrote it and posted it, I read a few posts and discovered it was a 'dead' thread. I've debated about putting it on here, but will, because maybe it will help someone else who has a death or very ill person in their life some time.

Anonamom, I've been thinking about your friend and how you hope to help her -- giving it deep consideration, in fact. I don't think there is one good answer, there are probably many, depending on the personality and type of person she is. It's hard to remember being so young--I look back on so many years. I can't imagine losing a husband or wife at such a young age. Hopefully, her youth will give her strength.
One of the things I think, though, about helping someone through a crisis is don't ask questions, like 'How can I help? What can I do? Do you want something to eat? What can I fix you? I really don't think you would do that any way, but sometimes people do feel helpless and want the person who is going through the suffering or the crisis to make choices. I think making choices is hard. After my husband was hurt, a few of my choir members kept calling, the church secretary called, all saying, 'we want to do something, we want to fix a meal, what do you want us to do? Call us and let us know. Other people said, 'call us and let us know what we can do.' I didn't know what I wanted them to do. What I did find out, though, was I was grateful for the people who made the decisions for me. My sister cooked a meal for us every day. She didn't ask what we wanted, she just showed up with the meal in her hand. She also went to the grocery store and purchased the every day items we all use for breakfast and lunch: eggs, grits, bread, butter, milk,cheese, bacon, sausage, apples, grape juice, cottage cheese, fruit, Taco soup, cheeseburger soup, Ritz crackers, tea bags, cinnamon bread for comfort toast, celery and every kind of cream cheese Philadelphia produces (honey and toasted pecan, chive and onion, strawberry, blackberry), vanilla yogurt, orange sherbet, Neopolitan ice cream, apple or peach or coconut cream pies. Every day things that if I'd had to make a list of, I couldn't have done it.
Perhaps your friend isn't going to be thinking about eating, but we all need food in the refrigerator and pantry for when we do think we can eat.
Since my husband had so many things hurting she went to the drug store and got a variety of OTC first aid items. He thought he'd cracked two wisdom teeth--his jaw hurt so badly. He was too sick to go to the dentist so she got every home remedy for a toothache. His ears hurt. His eyes hurt (they really killed him) She got Similasan for his eyes and ears. She bought Genteal eye drops (which helped the most), she bought Refresh. To use the old cliche, she left no stone unturned, so I didn't have to worry about those kinds of things.
In My Stroke of Insight, Jill Bolte Taylor, said gentle quiet people helped her. Nervous, busy people made her withdraw. I can see how this would be valuable for your friend. Just being there, so she can look at you and be comforted. She can ask, and she probably will, "Why?!", and, of course, none of us know. All we can do is listen. be an ear.
I've gone through some pretty horrible days this past six or seven weeks, and when it became unbearable, it was so comforting to know there were people I could trust. People I could vent to, without feeling guilty for the 'what I thought were bad things' I was saying. I knew they weren't judging me.
Perhaps your friend will be angry--heck, I'm sure she will after she gets over being bewildered. She'll need to vent. It is life-sustaining to have someone like you that she can say whatever she feels and not feel guilty. One thing, though, about this is, sometimes people do feel guilty about the words that stream out and are ashamed afterwards, so I would suggest to anyone helping a grieving person, be sure and tell them, of course you feel that way, don't worry, you need to work this out.
I hope your friend likes yoga--I truly believe if I hadn't been doing yoga for the past several years that I wouldn't have been physically or emotionally strong enough to go through this period (and, I'm happy to say I left home for the first time alone last week and went to yoga. I've been afraid to leave my husband alone.)
I realize a deceased husband is worse than a brain-damaged one, because he's not there. The only thing in front of her is infinity. But, then, that is all that is in front of the rest of us.
You were so kind to me in your comments right after my husband's accident, I can't imagine that you won't know what to do. Your friend has all of those stages to go through. It is a process. I remember thinking a few times in the past weeks, 'well, we're in a system, the system has its rules and it's bigger than me, so I'm going to relax and just let it flow.' Which it does. :)
I am so, so glad that I believe in Heaven. I don't know what it's like, but I believe in the power of Good, and I know there is something better. I pray that your dear friend and her family have this belief to draw on and that our God sustains her through the coming weeks and days and gives her the strength that she needs to live through this time.
I feel like you already know everything that I've said, but perhaps there may be one or two things that will help you. Thanks for your help, anonamom, here on this site. :)


Hi, Ignatz--know the word only from Eliot. Her vocabulary was so capacious because she was widely read in then-contemporary science.

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Went to my first Raiders game in 1960 at the tender age of 4 years, just before my 5th birthday.

What we are seeing now in hometown born and bred Head Coach Jack Del Rio is a bona fide return to excellence.

Jack is a graduate of Hayward High School which is located a mile up the road from my high school alma mater, Moreau Catholic.

East Bay Grease rules. And once Ronnie Lott and his crew get this stadium deal done, we'll see a renaissance. GM Reggie McKenzie is skillful and has done wonders to dig us out of salary cap hell and building through the draft.

Just win, Baby! We're on our way!

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Tom McClintock for speaker!

I am all over this!!!!!!


Watching this Packers game is almost as painful as having to read the WaPo.

deus volt buccaneer morgan

an interesting detaik, that partially explains miss rowlings's crazy musings, when she graduated from Exeter, she worked for amnesty international, before she went to teach in Portugal.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Perhaps I'll regain some of my enthusiasm KK.
The move to LA took most of it though I do remember watching them crush the Redskins in 1984 at my AF reserve weekend with a great deal of pleasure.
The last time I could work up any care Tom Brady broke my wittle heart with his frickin tuck.


Joan, I've bookmarked your lovely, helpful post. So much jumped out at me that I hadn't thought of and don't want to forget. Praying that your husband continues to improve and that you recognize every lesson God offers you through it.


Okay, with that Packers touchdown the game has the edge over reading the WaPo.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

BTW, KK, what is your avatar? Looks like Crazy Horse with a bear skull on his head and a coon skin cap on the skull, but I'm virtually certain that's erroneous.

deus volt buccaneer morgan

but it's a narrow edge,


My two most requested Thanksgiving recipes are my Aunt Mildred's cornbread dressing and my Poppyseed bread. This is a moist dressing (not a stuffing) and is a family favorite. I take at least 4 loaves of Poppyseed bread to our Thanksgiving gathering. They eat it for breakfast, put it out on the dessert table, and eat as a snack with a cup of coffee or glass of cold milk.


My friend did not know how to make cornbread and was going to use a mix. No, no, no!!! Just in case here is Southern Cornbread 101 -
Heat a cast iron skillet with 3 Tbsp. oil in a 425-degree oven. As it is heating up - lightly beat one egg. Add 1 1/2 cups of buttermilk and mix. Add 2 cups of White Lilly *self-rising* cornmeal mix. (Or Martha White - just be sure it is self-rising) Adjust buttermilk if too dry (should be thick like pancake batter but pourable) and pour into hot skillet - oil should sizzle. Bake at 425 until nice and brown (about 25/30 minutes) For dressing - make ahead and allow to cool.

Aunt Mildred's Cornbread dressing

6 cups cornbread (broken into small chunks)
5 hamburger buns (broken into small pieces)
6 cups broth (if none from turkey - use good quality chicken broth)
1/2 lb. butter - melted
1 onion chopped
1 cup chopped celery
1 Tbsp. salt
1 tsp pepper
6 eggs - lightly beaten
1 can cream of chicken soup (undiluted)

Cook onion and celery in a little water until softened. Combine all ingredients. Pour into two large pans which are oiled or sprayed with Pam (I use one lasagna pan and one 8 1/2 X 11 dish) Bake at 450 degrees until brown - 30 minutes or so. Serve with giblet gravy.


Poppy Seed Bread

3 cups all purpose flour
2 1/2 cups sugar
1 1/2 tsp. baking powder
1 1/2 tsp. salt
3 eggs
1 1/2 cups milk
1 1/2 cups oil
3 Tbsp. poppyseed
1 1/2 tsp vanilla (the good kind - not imitation)
1 1/2 tsp. almond flavoring
1 1/2 tsp. butter flavoring

Glaze Recipe
3/4 cup sugar
1/2 tsp of all 3 flavorings above
1/4 cup orange juice
Mix well as bread is in oven and have ready immediately as they come out of oven

Preheat oven to 325 degrees. Prepare two loaf pans - I line bottom with parchment paper and spray pan with Pam. Combine all ingredients in large mixing bowl. Mix for 2 minutes, scraping down sides. Pour into prepared loaf pans. Bake 1 1/2 hours (my oven doesn't take quite 1 1/2 - I check at 1:10 with cake tester). Should be golden brown.
Immediately after removing from oven - pour glaze over both loaves- I use a brush and keep brushing it on as it absorbs into the bread. After about 10 minutes, remove from pan. Cool. These freeze well and I think may be even better after being frozen. Enjoy!


Having redefined the peoples of the ME and Africa per UN precedent and 'traditional territories'; maybe this is why obambi is hanging on. Kind of a reverse caliphate, one across the ME, but a democracy arranged by obambi and more stewardship for his legacy.

http://rudaw.net/mobile/english/kurdistan/161120162 Kurdish President backed by all for country in iraq...and elsewhere

Little yards in the nine wholes.

Heh, PD, sometimes it's the little things that count.


Joan - your practical suggestions are so helpful. I copied your post and saved it. Thank you for taking the time to recount those details as it's hard to think of what to do when your heart wants so desperately to do *something*. I hope things are looking up for your husband.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Just read Micky's, er, Jack's chapter two.
He oughta be spending his retirement plunkin on the keys.


I think that's an eagle feather Iggy.


Looks like Crazy Horse with a bear skull on his head and a coon skin cap on the skull

Looks to me like Crazy Horse is about to be swallowed by a T-Rex, or has a bear cub sitting on his shoulders resting his head on a pillow.


So many cowards

matt, deplore me if you must

i was a huge Raider fan when I was a kid; all the way up to when Davis did his best to destroy Marcus Allen. Then they became dead to me.

Davis' aberrant behavior and his greed and mendacity just killed it. A really low rent extortionist.

We'll see. Can't follow the rams after Georgia moved them, and the Chargers are an exercise in futility. I root from afar for Green Bay simply because they are owned by the fans and I went to school with Max McGee's son.


I'm convinced there is a heaven. I wasn't going to share this out here but if you think I'm nuts, so be it. A few years back my wife informed me that an old school friend of hers had been diagnosed with cancer. We would see them around town mostly at sporting events as our children were about the same age. My heart broke in two when I heard the news because her husband had passed away three years earlier, also from cancer. I couldn't stop thinking about their adult kids, the youngest still in college. I asked my wife if it would be ok for me to buy some Lourdes Water from the gift shop at Lourdes and she said sure. So I ordered three little bottles of water and a set of Miraculous Rosary Beads for her. I knew she was Catholic but after I had the beads blessed, I panicked thinking that perhaps she might be mad at God and offended by my gifts. So I sent them anonymously with a card telling her that I prayed the Rosary every night at 9:30 for her and asked her to pray it with me. Then I prayed my heart out. At the time I was praying three chaplets a day, morning noon and night, always remembering her in them. After a couple of months we heard she wasn't doing well and when she finally came home, I knew the end was near. Now I started praying the Divine Mercy too but only for a couple of days. On that third day as I was praying my morning Rosary at 9:30 am with my eyes closed, a perfectly round light appeared to arc in my left eye and then stopped still for a split second before disappearing. It glowed a bright whitish/bluish color with a sharp well defined edge and I remember thinking what the heck was that? I've been knocked out cold, seen stars plenty of times and know what floaties are. This was something I had never seen before. I continued the Glorious Mysteries that I was praying and later on that day, my son informed me that Donna had passed away about 9:30 that morning. Now if you only knew how hard I prayed for her and her family and then to have that happen within minutes of her passing well, that's more than coincidence. I don't know if she ever did pray the Rosary with me but I know that was her thanking me that day.


I can tell by looking those two taste great, Momto2.

deus volt buccaneer morgan

ah morning joke will be mildly interesting, btim, snorfle ready,


Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

You are correct Gentlejim.
I clicked on his profile and got a better look at it.


I don't know if she ever did pray the Rosary with me but I know that was her thanking me that day.

Sounds to me like a Matt. 25:23 "Well done, thou good and faithful servant" message from God too, Rocco.


Deb...every night before I'd start the Rosary, I'd ask God if my faith were strong enough to move a mountain because I was praying for a miracle. I think you're right...and thanks.

Stephanie despicable me

If you aren't into spending the bucks on a honey baked ham, try this recipe. I've been asked to cook it again this year...


It makes honey baked hams pale in comparison.

Kroger has a special on hams... buy a spiral sliced ham and get a 10-14 lb turkey for free. I got mine today and it is thawing in the fridge as we speak.

And speaking of... I just ordered a CharBroil oil less turkey fryer to try this year. Gonna inject the hell out of it with Tony Chachere cajun butter and see what happens.

deus volt buccaneer morgan

and they say trump is undiplomatic, sheesh,


Miss Marple the Deplorable


I don't think you are crazy at all.

When I got my beloved dog Maggie, I wasn't used to having a young dog.

One night, while I was busy on the computer, she got my blood pressure pills. I found her in the hall lying down with the bottles chewed open and many pills gone.

I took her to the emergency vet clinic and they were pretty dubious about saving her. I prayed to St. Francis for intervention and to give the vets help in saving her.

She was in the clinic for 3 days, and hen I went to visit her she was almost catatonic. On the third day, they called me and said she was miraculously alert.

I believe, to this day, that St. Francis took pity on Maggie and me. I have since had 8 years with her and she is till going strong.

The only other time I have prayed that hard (and both times crying when I did so) was election day, when I begged Our Lady of Guadalupe to intercede and give Trump the election.


TBT's quite the pedophiliaphile.


60 Minutes is highlighting the oppressed women's soccer league.

How sad.

The rebuttal was written months ago.



deus volt buccaneer morgan

so we may get to luna federation on schedule,


Captain Hate

i was a huge Raider fan when I was a kid; all the way up to when Davis did his best to destroy Marcus Allen.

I never understood why this happened because Marcus Allen seemed to be a model citizen kind of guy. Maybe an early heads up on how insane Al would be, particularly when Lane Kiffin had to take him to court to honor his contract after he got fired, which is automatic in the enneffell.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Beautiful story, Rocco.
Reminds me of something one of Mrs Iggy's best friends told me just the other day.

She was always a little bit perplexed by my wife's unshakable faith even years before Susan was diagnosed, even though our friend is also a strong Christian.

She said a few months before Mrs Iggy died she asked Susan if she wasn't mad at God. To my surprise she said Susan admitted she was, something she never told me.
In any event our friend Carmen thought "Aha! I finally got her. There IS a weakness in her faith". Not maliciously, just wondering how someone could be so strong in her faith.
Then she smiled and said, "But before I could say anything Susan held up her hand and smiled and finished her sentence, '...but He still loves me."
She was a little crestfallen but in a good way because Susan had just reconfirmed what Carmen knew all along; her faith never failed.
That's her epitaph: "Unfailing faith, perfect love: Isaiah 40:31."


Andrea Mitchell said history is being delayed???
First Black ex-President!! HISTORY
First Commie/Marxist/Alynski ex-President.
First Bi-sexual ex-President. HISTORY.


Thanks MissM, maybe if we keep praying, Trump will make America that "Shining City upon a Hill" once again.

good night all

Kaiser Derden

I'm sure he'll try but the thing is the guys got no wisdom to impart ... he a lazy smooth talking con man, always has been (never had a real job in his life) ... and once out of office he'll have zero influence and thus no reason for anyone to pay him big speech fee's ...

he's been the Democrat band leader over the worst 6 years in the history of the Democrat party vis a vi election outcomes ... they are ignorant but not so stupid as to let him run anything ...


Made me cry Iggy...you've been in my prayers all along!


Oh, Rocco, the same thing happened to me, well, just a little bit differently. Our mother had been sick for months. We'd take her to the emergency room, they'd look her over, discharge her. This happened three times. She was in so much pain. Finally the fourth time, we begged them, please admit her, test her, find out what's wrong (she was 94, had a geriatric doctor, who, we have finally decided, just believed in 'helping ease them on into eternity.') We didn't know it, people can be so dumb, but Medicare doesn't want hospitals to "admit" patients -- it's all about the money. They'll even keep a patient overnight from the emergency room, but Medicare won't or wouldn't at that time, pay the correct amount unless they were admitted. So, she was admitted, they tested her several days. She had cancer from her colon, to her stomach, liver, pancreas, I don't remember what else. (All that time hurting, being brave, and that gd doctor not doing anything.)

Anyway, after a few days they discharged her, telling us she'd live six months. She was supposed to be in hospice care, but it was a holiday weekend, the care was sporadic. She told my sister and my daughter, 'this is going to be hard on you girls.' She began dying. I think she willed herself to die. I'd been gone part of the day, arranging things you need at home for dying people, and came in where we'd put her hospital bed in the middle of the living room. By then she wasn't talking. I bent over her, got my face really close cause I knew she couldn't see very well, and I remember her expression -- joy suffused her face, and I remember smiling because she looked so pretty, I asked, 'What are you smiling about?' and she said, 'Light...I see the light.' I remember looking around the semi-dark room and then looking back at her. She never talked after that. She started drowning in the fluid from her lungs. It was awful, it came out of her mouth, wet her nightgown, the bedding. We fought it all through the evening. We both got frantic -- I tried to cut her wet gown off with scissors so we could put a dry one on her. I remember jumping up and shouting to my sister, 'so this is the gawd-damn hospice that helps people die a good death.' We'd called them earlier, and there was only one nurse because of the holiday, and it took hours for her to get there. She gave Moma morphine FINALLY. It took Moma all night to die, but what took my sister and I through that evening and night was what Moma said, she saw where she was going. I know she did. Oh, she was sweet and kind, but she was so tough and so brave. I miss her every day. :)


Obama will return with the regularity of an unwanted season.


I also believe in answered prayer. I prayed with great fervor for Trump to win. Now, when I see a bumper sticker or a yard sign - it is a reminder to thank the Lord for His mercy. And yes, Rocco, we must continue to pray for him and our country.


and they say trump is undiplomatic, sheesh,

Any opportunity for Zippy to say "I". Over and over again.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Wen through something similar with my dad. I won't go into the gruesome details, but he was taken by a hear attack and it was a blessing.

I saw him in a dream after his death, and it made me realize God had cared for him all along.


I pray evvery day for Trump and Pence, and their families, for safety, for strength, and for courage.

They have a difficult road ahead. I firmly believe no one else could handle it.


Miss Marple, I admire your attitude and spirit so much.

I hope all your ex has to eat on Thanksgiving is humble pie and he chokes on it. :)

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BTW, KK, what is your avatar? Looks like Crazy Horse with a bear skull on his head and a coon skin cap on the skull, but I'm virtually certain that's erroneous.

Ig--- That is a profile of a ceremonial bear dancer.

It resembles to a point the regalia that I wear when I dance bear. Not all dancers wear the skull due to its weight.

Most leave the bearskin with the head, sans skull, and fashion it as a soft covering over the head. Some even use a taxidermist to create a classic bearskin rug look to it. But most leave the bear head attached to the hide and tie it to keep it in place over their head while dancing. The rest of the hide fits like a robe.

Wearing the skull and robe is also used in medicine rituals when doctoring the sick and the lost. The eagle feathers are used as well.

You are partially correct as a matter of fact. The "cap" is actually the upper portion of a bearskin robe which partially covers the skull. The portion of the hide that covers the bear's head has been removed and likely used as a mask. Nothing is wasted.

The bear "path" is a part of many indigenous nations' traditions.

My affiliation is with an all-nations group here in California. I'm Navajo and dance throughout the state with Mono, Pomo, Apache, Northern Cheyenne, Tachi Yokut, Paiutes, Yavapai, Yaqui, and various Lakota, Nakota, and Dakota "relokes" .

We hold our spirit camps at the Mono Indian medicine grounds in the Sierra Foothills east of Fresno, high above the Kings River.

The bear "season" begins near the end of black bear hibernation in early March. And we put our bears down in early October near the beginning of the hibernation.

Been dancing the bear since 2010.

It is a healing dance for the people.

The bear is the only animal in nature which can "doctor" itself based on what it eats.

The healing spirit is powerful in that when the "bears" dance for the people, the people can project the sicknesses and maladies of their minds, hearts, and bodies onto the "bear" symbolized by the dancers and will heal.

At our bear dances there are sometimes as many as 50 bears moving in a great circle around the ceremonial fire, with a couple hundred people in a surrounding circle singing and praying while the drum guides our movements.

Have witnessed some very significant healings. The dancers are protected from absorbing those sicknesses by attendant "wing men" who carry eagle wings with which the projected maladies are brushed off our backs and sent into the ceremonial fire.

It's hazardous duty in that without adequate preparation a dancer can actually internalize the disease/sickness and perish from it.

Lost a close close "bear brother" to a rare form of stomach cancer one year after a miraculous healing of a Paiute elder from that very malady during a fall ceremony.

My family is Navajo (Dineh) on my mother's side (Mexican clan out of Dixon NM), and on my Dad's side, my grandma was Tarahumara from northern Mexico.

When my first child came along in 1978 my mom asked me if we were going to raise our baby in "the Church." My then-wife and I were unable to agree (devout feminist radically anti-Catholic) on our course.

Since our baby wasn't to be baptized into the Roman Catholic faith, Mom said "Perhaps it's meant for you to bring the clans back to the old ways."

Mom and Dad were raised picking crops in the San Joaquin and Sacramento Valleys after migrating from the Four Corners region--- and Dad's family migrated out of Mexico after the 1st Mexican Revolution (Villa supporters were being purged).

So there was a disconnection from tribal homelands that removed an entire generation from those old ways. I made her a promise that I would.

It began when I got sober at age 35. I met up with one of the few remaining Chiricahua Apache full-bloods while living in Vermont of all places. He brought me into the Sun dance way and I met my "anchu" (teacher), a Northern Cheyenne who prepared me to follow the way of the bear.

"Eagles are the bears of the sky. Bears are the eagles who walk on the earth. You walk." And I never looked back.

My sons are wolf dancers. My wife dances hawk/falcon. My daughter lives in Belgium and is finding her way toward the bear path.

The "bear" regalia that I wear is two hides bonded together... a baby black bear which extends up over my head and shoulders reaching upward and appears to be standing on the shoulders of a young female, "blond" (light red color) grizzly. The front paws of the grizzly are attached to the black bear hide to look as if it is making an offering of the little one to GrandFather Sky.

The regalia shrouds my head and shoulders like an awning. People looking at me cannot see my face.

The baby black bear looks like it is ascending "out" of the grizzly. The baby black bear hide belongs to my older sister.

The two hides are joined to symbolize our shared consciousness of the spirit world.

Sis earned her bear skin because she tended to my "anchu" or teacher while he cared for me four different times that I fasted on the "mountain" without food or water in preparation to walk the bear path and to receive our family medicine.

Supporting fasters on the mountain is arduous work. Supporting the teachers, even moreso.

Prolly more than you wanted to know. But, I like the idea that my JOM family knows me like kin.

We continue to do ceremonies so that GrandFather will recognize us. There have been so many changes that we do things we were taught centuries ago when humans lived closer to the divine spirit, the Great Mystery.

Many of us believe that the human species is dangling by a very thin thread--- and that it's been so for thousands of years as we struggle to find our way.

Healing dances like the bear dance, the sun dance, dance of the green corn and others, buy the people of the earth more time, allowing the sacred Hoop to stay in one piece.

It feels good to be welcomed here on JOM. It is a special place because of the people here.

Your recent story moved me. I sent up the smoke (cedar, sweetgrass, and GrandFather white sage with tobacco and kopal) for you and your family.

Thank you for asking about the avatar. Peace be with you.

Kevlar Kid

PS: My bear brothers call me "Oso".

deus volt buccaneer morgan

faith is a mysterious thing, because it is about 'belief in things not seen,' we never want to see our loved ones go, not when they are 91 or 84 and specially when they leave us far too soon,

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