Happy Thanksgiving All!

We do have much to be grateful for on this blessed day.

NOBODY ASKED BUT... I'll be rooting for the Native Americans over their traditional oppressors at 4:30.

Comments

[sbw]

So the government says you aren’t supposed to wash turkey before you cook it, but instead do you put roll-on deodorant under the wings before putting it in the oven?

[sbw]

Happy Thanksgiving, TM and JOMers!

[Beasts of England]

Pumpkin spice deodorant...

[Captain Hate]

Go Redskins!

[rse]

Happy Thanksgiving. Turkey in oven and part way through the bacon for dressing, but this is the post cheerleader asked me to link to. If you want to stick to food discussions, scroll on by.

jimmy-virtually every name well known at a national level is pushing a vision that works in a way vastly different from the rhetoric around it. Some pushers know that and others do not. Given the bile veterans have for devos, I would guess that when it was explained to her that whatever she was pushing did not work the way she was leading people to believe she did not care.

It is jeb's ed policy we will be getting without much difference from what obama pushed except in nomenclature. The local news just said she was a kasich delegate at the convention and the same Buckley dinner out in SF that gave an award to George Schulz as well as the long-time head of the Bradley Foundation who retired about a year ago has recognized the DeVos Family in the past.

School Choice and charters are both legal entities and instruments that were created by the Left to lock in a particular vision that has little to do with academics. It's been the same vision under a variety of names since Bill Bennett was Ed Sec under Reagan as my latest post laid out. No one is forthcoming unless you can find the books and papers before something became controversial. Bennett is currently cashing in as a senior advisor on Project Lead the Way. He is scheduled to be one of the speakers on a panel at jeb's annual confab in december. Rod Paige and Arne Duncan are also speaking with Condi Rice, who is also on the Board with DeVos and who chaired the Board while Jeb ran for Pres, is asking the questions of the three former Ed Sec's discussing ESSA, the new federal ed law.

As I have said I am glad Trump is the P-E and not Jeb, but we will be getting Jeb's desired ed policies. I knew that whoever the next Pres was the ed policies pursued would effectively be the same. It's just that Hillary would knowingly be on board with agenda as Arkansas was an early and knowing implementer. "High quality learning assessments" have a behavioral science function that is well-known to insiders that comes with the mandate when it is put into a charter or federal or state legislation or regulation.

Back to bacon now that the skillet has cooled a bit and next batch won't be burned.

[Beasts of England]

Cowboys v. Redskins on Thanksgiving? Is this a new twist?

Go Redskins!!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Potatoes all peeled and boiling.

Macy's parade will shortly be on the tube. It always makes a pleasant background noise to Thanksgiving morning.

Dogs have been out and are curled up. Overcast here and in the mid-40's, where it is supposed to stay all day.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Beasts,

Did you see that I posted that persimmon pudding recipe yesterday?

[Rocco]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. And a great big Thank You to TM for this wonderful blog which keeps me sane.

[Another Bob]

Finishing the waterboarding thought from the now dead thread...

Why should Trump be obligated to have a well-thought out, mature position on waterboarding in the first place? There are far larger issues to deal with.

[Jim Eagle]

Hail to the Redskins,
Hail Victory.
Braves on the Warpath
Fight for Old DC.

And if anyone here wants to do a funny and mention the 1974 game and the name of the rookie QB for the Cowboys, go right ahead but no champagne for you:)

[Another Bob]

Apparently Jill Stein - excuse me that's DR. Jill Stein to me - is now doing Hillary's bidding in WI, MI and PA to turn those machines back on.

[jimmyk]

Another Bob, whatever Trump does is wrong as far as the MSM is concerned. If he had stuck to his position on waterboarding he would be an inflexible ideologue who doesn't listen to his experts. Obama, on the other hand, is just the smartest guy ever.

[jimmyk]

Stein needs to raise $2M by Friday to get those recounts going. Soros is probably getting out his checkbook even as we speak.

[Captain Hate]

Another Bob is correct.

Although Teddy isn't with us today he will have a full turkey dinner at the pet lodge run by the breeder where we got him.

[Janet ~ an obnoxious Trump supporter]

Trump should just say he is going with Obama's method...drop a bomb on the jihadist & blow him & anyone near him to smithereens. No water involved. No intel either, but who cares.

[Beasts of England]

I haven't back peddled far enough this morning, Miss Marple, but I'm working in that direction. Thank you!!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

By the way, Idaho must have had a phenomenal year for the potato crop.

I bought a couple of 8-pound bags without really looking closely, and all of the potatoes are YUGE! I had to cut them into quarters for even cooking.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Probably GMO spuds, MM.
Better watch em closely. They may try to crawl out of the pot with malice aforethought.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

This is a Thanksgiving hymn we always sang in grade school back in the olden days before hymns were removed from music class. I think it has never had more meaning to me than this year:

We gather together to ask the Lord’s blessing;
He chastens and hastens His will to make known.
The wicked oppressing now cease from distressing.
Sing praises to His Name; He forgets not His own.

Beside us to guide us, our God with us joining,
Ordaining, maintaining His kingdom divine;
So from the beginning the fight we were winning;
Thou, Lord, were at our side, all glory be Thine!

We all do extol Thee, Thou Leader triumphant,
And pray that Thou still our Defender will be.
Let Thy congregation escape tribulation;
Thy Name be ever praised! O Lord, make us free!

[jimmyk]

So apparently the serious injury to the sweet young lady in the Dakota Pipeline protests may have been a Pali-style "workplace accident."

https://twitter.com/BearingArmsCom/status/801517983231311873

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Ignatz,

HA!

[henry - drunk on prog tears]

Via out CTLU, I get a note that Stein raised the recount money... and something called correctthedemocrats.com claims Stein was tipped off to DNC voter fraud.

I will worry about that mess sometime after football, turkey, and an evening movie. Happy Thanksgiving!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Kellyanne Conway Verified account
‏@KellyannePolls

Receiving deluge of social media & private comms re: Romney Some Trump loyalists warn against Romney as sec of state

-------------

Theory on Conservative Treehouse is that Mitt is being shown he has no popularity in a very public way.

[James D.]

Cowboys v. Redskins on Thanksgiving? Is this a new twist?

There's another twist - both Thanksgiving Day games are meaningful, and all four teams have a winning record. When's the last time either of those things (let alone both) were true?

[jimmyk]

I get a note that Stein raised the recount money

As I said, happy to see the left throwing away their $ on pointless exercises.

What's CTLU? Is that our Chicago-area lurker?

[dublindave]

*****BRAKING NEWS*****TRUMP REFUSING TO TAKE INTELLIGENCE BRIEFINGS******"IT'S TOO HARD,THEY'RE SO BORING,I WANNA RECOUNT"*****INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES TO SHORTEN D.B'S AND MAKE THEM MORE FUN*****EACH TERRORIST GROUP WILL BE REPRESENTED BY A SPORTS ILLUSTRATED MODEL*****CHANEL IMAN WILL BE ISIS******ALSO,TRUMP CLAIMS WHITEHOUSE TOO BLAND******ORDERS 6 TONS OF GOLD LEAF,22 CHANDELIERS AND 18 MICHAELANGELO'S "CLASSY DAVID INTERIOR FOUNTAINS" FROM FOUNTAIN WORLD,BROOKLYN*******

[Jim Eagle]

JamesD,

Especially considering the Lions. Probably never.

BTW, I am considering taking all my previous Ernie Souchak parodies and turning them into a book. Have to change the names to protect the guilty:) But can you tell me via email what you went through doing your first book and where you went to self publish?

[Jim Eagle]

DuDa reminds me of how my English cousins celebrate Thanksgiving Day. They do it on the 4th of July.

[henry - drunk on prog tears]

Jimmyk, yes on CTLU.

[Rocco]

If absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely then democracy is absolute power in the hands of the majority. A majority surely willing to vote themselves advantages especially in times of decline. So our founders created a Constitutional Republic which guarantees the rights of the minority against the will of the majority. I found this short paragraph very telling about the 2000 election, concerning the popular vote in Yo te quiero mucho

What is more, Latinos cluster in some of the most populous, and therefore electorally desirable, states. California, Florida, New York, Illinois and Texas, the five states with the largest Latino populations, account between them for 166 electoral college votes, 61% of the total needed for victory. In a close race, as this one is, any identifiable bloc gets attention, and Latinos are both numerous and well-placed.

That's one hell of a voting block that has to be addressed in 61% of the electoral votes.

The Electoral College helps protect minority votes!

[James D.]

Can do, JiB. It'll be tomorrow if that's OK - we're getting ready to head out to family Thanksgiving in about a half hour.

[Strick]

I normally refuse to watch football because of the the vicious stereotypical image propagated by the team that's exploiting a vulgar, common name for my ancestors, but hell, so long as they're leading the NFC East, I might have to rethink my boycott...

[Truthbetold5]

Jack, you should ask Judith Miller how to go about it, she got her parodies published.

[Another Bob]

Hey Dubby, you do realize the intel briefings are mostly a relic of the Cold War days right? Back in the days where 24/7/365 communications was far more difficult.

I'm sure the people who do the monitoring and watching will be sure to get Trump the word instantly if there's something he needs to know.

[Beasts of England]

He's about sixty days out from the inauguration - do you think he's going to act if there's something of importance today? No. That's BOzo's job. Do you think most everything in the PDB will be overcome by events by the time he takes the oath of office? Yes.

Try again, DuDa. Ask for better talking points.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Trump reads contracts for fun. Seriously.

I don't think he will find the intelligence briefings boring.

[dublindave]

"DuDa reminds me of how my English cousins celebrate Thanksgiving Day. They do it on the 4th of July"

The guy's blowing off intelligence briefings 2 weeks into office. He knows zip about foreign policy and he's already blowing off D.B's.

This man does not want to be President. That's a fact that's going to start revealing itself in all sorts of ugly ways.

Remember, this is about your country, not your party. If the actions of your President put your country at risk, then your job as a patriot is to be honest.....to be honest..... and speak out against them.

[Another Bob]

MM, that CT rumor makes some sense. No reason for KC to tweet that, except as a wink/nod.

[henry - drunk on prog tears]

"Two weeks into office"

Odumbo was the one dumb enough to believe there is an "Office of the President-Elect" -- apparently Duda is just as dumb.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Another Bob,

That's why I posted it.

Trump prizes loyalty. Mitt gave a very public disloyal attack on him and it was disgusting.

"Just can't nominate you, Mitt. It would split up the party."

I wondered about it when Huckabee got on TV and said it was disloyal to Trump's supporters.

I might feel sorry for Mitt if I ere a better Christian, but I cannot forgive that money he took from me and then ran such a crummy campaign.

And as someone said, it makes no sense. He has bashed Russia continuously which goes against what Trumpp wants to do, and he couldn't even stand up to Candy Crowley, so how's he gonna stand up to Sergei Lavrov?

[Beasts of England]

Breaking news! Donald has been receiving the PDB from Hillary's maid. She's been printing them out for President-elect Trump.

[Old Lurker]

Naw, Beasts, I think he just reads the abstract prepared for Putin from the corrupted Clinton-Obama pipeline.

[Beasts of England]

But seriously, I would gravely discount any reports about how often Trump is receiving intelligence reports. Disclosing such information is detrimental to national security. And until I see a named source, I conclude that it's just more MSM lies...

[Beasts of England]

Good point, OL!! ;)

[dublindave]

"Two weeks into office"

"Odumbo was the one dumb enough to believe there is an "Office of the President-Elect" -- apparently Duda is just as dumb"

Romney intended to use 'the office of the President elect' during his transition.

Trump is using it. Look at the banner on his website.

[Jim Eagle]

So, while Mrs. JiB is working on the new flooring we have a movie on as background and its "Secretariat". Just a reminder to me what a magnificent animal he was and the struggles Penny Tweedy(Chenery) to syndicate him and watch him finish 3rd in The Wood Memorial before the Derby putting her performance guarantee at risk and lose not just the Derby but the $6+ million of syndicate fees.

One of the most compelling stories of athleticism in the annals of sports.

[Beasts of England]

Well, DuDa, if nothing else - we got you to admit that Trump is the rightful and legitimate winner of the election! Glad you came around!!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jack,

That's a great story. I am so glad I got to see him run, although it was on TV and not in person.

I love horse racing, courtesy of my dad. He felt that the Indianapolis 500 was boring because it was machinery and besides, you couldn't bet!

He used to take us down to Churchill Downs in May to watch some of the races. He even let me bet one year when I was 12. Had me put a scarf on so I looked older and told me what to say when I got to the window. LOL!

My Methodist grandparents who did not believe in card-playing were NOT amused when they heard about it. LOL!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/23/repo-man-pays-off-elderly-couples-car-gives-it-back.html

[Thomas Collins]

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

DublinDave you're off your game. You must have been celebrating the impending Clinton win for months, and are in the process of sobering up. I'm looking forward to your full recovery by January 20, 2017. Make DuDaSnarkGreatAgain!

[dublindave]

"Well, DuDa, if nothing else - we got you to admit that Trump is the rightful and legitimate winner of the election! Glad you came around"

He's the winner by a technicality. He IS the winner, but she still got over 2 million more votes than him, which is about the size of a small country.

Then there's the 'McRory' style recount that may take place. Honestly, I don't want there to be a recount. I think it'll harmful to our country......our representative democracy/constitutional Republic if you will. But, it still may go ahead and we may-and if anyone thinks this is not possible then you've nothing to worry about-but it may lead to this election being overturned and given to Hillary Clinton.

BTW happy thanksgiving everyone.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Weedavey's newfound humor as a loser sure was short lived.

[Old Lurker]

Secretariat retired to the farm near our family farm in KY and we would walk over to pat him when we visited Grandmother. Even YL1 got to meet him. When my mother was little, it was Man of War she got to pat.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Another Bob! Another Bob! Look at THIS:

Kellyanne Conway Verified account
‏@KellyannePolls

Kissinger & Schultz as Secs of State flew around the world less, counseled POTUS close to home more. And were loyal. Good checklist.
----------------------------------------

Bolding is mine.

Heh.

This just popped up on Twitter.

[buccr morgan]

Happy thanksgiving all, yes its just more chaff they'll print out anything at bezos, except the truth

[Beasts of England]

Good point, DublinDave. I just hope Alabama wins the time of possession (popular vote) this Saturday. The final score (Electoral College) is just a technicality, amirite?

[Old Lurker]

It's Thanksgiving???

Hmmm. What am I thankful for...let me think!

Enjoy the day, guys. You are the best family ever.

[Another Bob]

MM I assume you've noted Trump's tweet re. the Carrier plant in I Diana?

[Truthbetold5]

dubdave

It's so unfair. Thank goodness the Clinton's have a foundation to make thinks right.

[Threadkiller]

I'll be rooting for the Native Americans over their traditional oppressors

https://youtu.be/MnXZB9SkS44

Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Including DublinDobbs!

[Jim Eagle]

OL,

Claiborne Farms, right?

[matt, deplore me if you must]

Happy Thanksgiving to all, including DuDa.

No thoroughbreds here, but plenty of horses, a few cattle,llamas, alpacas, pigs, chickens, etc. One turkey and he's in retirement.

Does anyone remember the open mike on a Dallas/Detroit game on Thanksgiving back around 1969/70? It near to made a 12 y/o me laugh fit to bust.

[rse]

Jeb Bush's statement on the DeVos nomination:

Tallahassee, Fla – Today, Governor Jeb Bush, Chairman of the Foundation for Excellence in Education released the following statement.

“Betsy DeVos is an outstanding pick for Secretary of Education.

“She has a long and distinguished history championing the right of all parents to choose schools that best ensure their children’s success. Her allegiance is to families, particularly those struggling at the bottom of the economic ladder, not to an outdated public education model that has failed them from one generation to the next.

“I cannot think of a more effective and passionate change agent to press for a new education vision, one in which students, rather than adults and bureaucracies, become the priority in our nation’s classrooms.

“I congratulate Betsy and look forward to her bold leadership at the U.S. Department of Education.”

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Tweets & replies Media

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 16m16 minutes ago

I am working hard, even on Thanksgiving, trying to get Carrier A.C. Company to stay in the U.S. (Indiana). MAKING PROGRESS - Will know soon!

[Buckeye]

OL

The horse patting story is seriously cool!

[buccr morgan]

One can't avoid some of the tentacles of hydra rse, Bennett was challenging some of the apparatus but without an underlying theory of knowledge.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Another Bob,

While you were posting a friend of mine sent me a text message about it. I had been following Conway so hadn't seen it yet. Brought the tweet over here so people could read exactly what it says.

[Buckeye]

Happy Thanksgiving one and all, even Duda and Marty!

[Jane]

Spoke with my 90 year old, Hillary supporting, mother this morning. She told me she was concerned about who Trump will name to be Secretary of State. I asked her why, since Hillary was the worst secretary of state ever and she voted for her.

She then claimed a hearing aid malfunction.

[Jim Eagle]

Forgot to mention in my lyrics to the Redskins fight song, that the song is the reason there are the Dallas Cowboys. True story.

The Redskin band director tried to get George C. Marshall the Skins owner to pay for the song but Marshall just wanted to sell the Skins to Clint Murchison who was looking for a team for Dallas. Marshall blocked him at every turn since Clint didn't want the Skins but his own team from the bottom up.

After the falling out with Marshall, the band director a named Barnee Breeskin, then sold the fight song to Murchison who told Marshall that unless he released the hold on his bringing a team to Dallas he would hold the song hostage.

The rest is history.

[buccr morgan]

So Fred kaplan, of all people, points out that true didn't change his mind about waterboarding, in case you want to revise, tm

[Buckeye]

Normally wouldn't care about Cowboys vs. Redskins, but since Browns and Bengals suck....

Cowboys all the way with OUR guy Zeke rushing for well over a 100 today!

[sbw]

How ’bout them Lions!

-- That is how Tim, the Toolman, Taylor would tell his sons he loves them in a way they would not be embarrassed.

So, JOM, how ’bout them Lions!

[Thomas Collins]

Re the popular vote nonsense: Clinton is currently up about two million in the popular vote. California, Massachusetts, Illinois and NY is supplying between 7 and 7.5 million of that margin. In other words, in states other than full monty blue balls states, Trump is up around 5 million in the popular vote. I'd say the Electoral College worked this time better than ever. Why should blue ballsers prevail when they occupy a very small portion of the country? In addition, if the rule was popular vote, Trump would have been campaigning in blue balls states, and might well have received another 2 million or so popular votes. Team Trump basically abandoned the blue balls states, because they were not winnable. Going back to BOE's thought, it's as if the losing football team claimed it really won because it dominated time of possession when the rule is that the team with more points wins.

[Marlene]

Who is watching the parade? Did you notice the adorable Trixie the Cairn terrier balloon?
Scout jumped up in front of the TV when he saw it. Ha.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Wasting your breath, TC.
Despite Weedavey's claim to the contrary, if Trump were up 10 million in the popular vote and The Ten Horned Beast were ahead in electoral votes all of a sudden we would become a constitutional republic and Trump's pop vote margin a mere technicality.

[Stephanie despicable me]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

[Captain Hate]

This isn't as completely surprising as some might think:

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/nfl-jim-brown-trump-all/2016/11/22/id/760251/?ns_mail_uid=32944113&ns_mail_job=1697410_11232016&s=al&dkt_nbr=uoslqlr2

[dublindave]

"I'd say the Electoral College worked this time better than ever. Why should blue ballsers prevail when they occupy a very small portion of the country"

Because if the election results were in the hands of the....I'm trying to find a word that's not so offensive......the more........how shall we say.....enlightened humans.....then perhaps this country would be even greater(not great again cause it's already awesome).

I love my redstate brethren,I do.....pumpkin pie and grits are awesome.....but .......gosh...if Aliens were to land in the U.S and they wanted to meet humans that represented the best of humanity, would you really wanted them landing in Vicksburg, Mississippi?

Come on, we're all thinking it.

Or would you rather they land in times square or los angelus?

[the generalisticly deplorable rich]

happy thanksgiving all.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

There are probably a good number of progs in red states that also don't vote because they figure their votes don't count.

The overall congressional vote might be a decent indicator since it includes close contests even in a lot of heavily red and blue states.
Where's it at?

[GUS]

Clint Longley???

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Amen to OL's 10:19.

[dublindave]

You know, my 11.02 was an asshole post, even for me.

I take it back, there are amazing people living in the South and especially Mississippi.

That was snobbish, I apologize(which is a first, but I do).

[Beasts of England]

Vicksburg for the win. Nothing against our big city JOMers, of course! :)

[Marlene]

When we were young and struggling,hubby used to play in a band on the week-ends in clubs and bars in northern Maine and New Brunswick. One memory he has is playing in Ron Turcotte's club in Grand Falls,N.B. Turcotte had memorabilia displayed in the club. Of course,by that time he was confined to a wheelchair.

By the way,hubby is a drummer,so maybe he can play in the ALL CAPS BAND!

[Beasts of England]

I am rather amazing. Thanks, DuDa!!

[Beasts of England]

That's wonderful, Marlene! Best I can tell, we have six guitar slingers, two bassists, and a keyboards guy. And a mandolin dude. A drummer almost completes the group. Now, who's gonna be our front man / woman?

[Marlene]

Trump mentioned Maine in his NYT interview the other day. He said people kept asking him,why are you going to Maine? That one EV in the 2nd district could have made all the difference! He won the 2nd district,but he didn't need the EV.

[the generalisticly deplorable rich]

>>>Where's it at?

Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkywatzky | November 24, 2016 at 11:05 AM<<<

iirc beasts got a link to a spreadsheet with the incoming numbers. In popular vote totals I think the GOP has an the edge by about 4 million in the house. Can't find the link though.

[Beasts of England]

Welp, off to take my dear ol' Mom to brunch. She loves me. No word from her on the amazing part, though... ;)

[Sandy Daze]

Mr Trump was supposed to have rejected all of the politically correct nonsense—in the election he appealed to citizens, not groups. He should not be appealing to races, ethnicities and other groups in his appointments.

Rather, he should be thinking politically now (strategy, not tactics): how to consolidate the victory and strengthen the party in the upcoming interim elections.

His object is to build a new party, not to include and appease the various elements of the old party.

In terms of battlefield analysis he is not following up on his victory and allowing the remnants of the enemy to escape whereas he should follow them and destroy them utterly. He is not being political.

I really thought he had better instincts.
He showed such good instincts in the election.

MAGA

HAPPY Thanksgiving JoMers !

[the generalisticly deplorable rich]

Posted by: Beasts of England | November 24, 2016 at 11:13 AM

if you need someone to scream into the mic Korn and Deftones style I'm your guy beasts ...

... ALL CAPS. ALL THE TIME.

[Another Bob]

Dubby, I wouldn't mind 'em landing in a Kansas wheat field, and meeting the farmer. The guy who feeds thousands out of his field (including a lot of New Yawkers and Los Angelino's who wouldn't know one end of a scythe from the other) is a pretty damn good representative of humanity to me.

[GUS]

Marlene, God Bless and Happy Thanksgiving, your Hubby is welcome to join GUS and the ALL CAPS BAND, under 2 condiions.
One) We need to know a wee bit about his KIT and it's quality!!
Two)He must play LOUD.

[buccr morgan]

Yes dealing with all the houses of the lansraad, is tricky, specially the harkonnen's. I thought his first appointment matched his overall objectives, but his last less so

[Rocco]

We're 15 senate seats and 5 house seats from having a 2/3's majority needed for constitutional amendments. Keep calling us racists!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Are you suggesting a Kansas farmer is more representative of America than Naked Cowboy Guy or Charlie Sheen, AB?

[Another Bob]

I admit I may be an outlier Ignatz.