Unconscious Irony

I hope this is not just me trapped in my Times-bashing bubble, but... Jim Rutenberg delivers this piece on Trump saving the news business without any irony or self-awareness that I can detect:

By Attacking the Press, Donald Trump May Be Doing It a Favor

The answer to all the troubling new questions about the future of the news business — how to make money, stop the spread of fake news and reassert a uniform view of reality — appeared last week in a plate of “flaccid, gray Szechuan dumplings.”

That was how the Vanity Fair writer Tina Nguyen described her appetizer at the Trump Grill in a review that said the joint — the flagship eatery of White House North (Trump Tower) — could be “The Worst Restaurant in America.” [link]

Vanity Fair posted the piece late Wednesday. Early Thursday, Donald J. Trump did what he so often does when a news organization or private business makes him mad. He attacked its leadership and impugned its fiscal health, on Twitter.

“Has anyone looked at the really poor numbers of @VanityFair Magazine,” the incoming president of the United States wrote. “Way down, big trouble, dead! Graydon Carter, no talent, will be out!”

Actually, the magazine reports that its circulation, its revenue and its Web traffic are all up this year over last. And Mr. Carter, the editor of Vanity Fair and one of the best magazine editors in the country, is in no more danger of losing his job than he was a year ago, when Mr. Trump wondered aloud whether he was on his way out.

But Mr. Carter seized the moment with a red home page banner calling Vanity Fair “The Magazine Donald Trump Doesn’t Want You to Read” and imploring visitors, “Subscribe Now!”

Lo and behold, subscriptions spiked a hundredfold over their daily average, the magazine said, bringing Vanity Fair’s parent company, Condé Nast, the biggest number of new daily sign-ups in its 116-year history. (The tally had hit 42,000 by Sunday.)

As Mr. Trump tries to burn the media village down, he may just be saving it.

You can only imagine my relief upon hearing this good news about the state of Vanity Fair. But after this somewhat extensive lead in illustrating the salvation of the "news" business, let me ask a question - does Mr. Rutenberg sincerely believe that the Trump Grill in question really is a candidate for "worst" restaurant in America, does he suspect it may be the worst restaurant in America for Trump-loathers, or does he not even care as long as readers lap it up?

Every media outlet, even the Times, faces a perennial problem posed by their readership - people generally want affirmation, not information. To pick an example seemingly at random, the Times pre-election coverage rarely challenged their progressive readership with the notion that all was not honey and cream throughout Obama's America.

After the election's rug-pull the "what went wrong" coverage expanded. We learned that white employment has actually fallen during the Obama "recovery", which just might (along with declining working class white life expectancy) have been a straw in the wind suggesting that Hillary's commitment to continuing the current regime might have fallen on unhappy ears in the heartland. But who wanted to know that these unreconstructed racist homophobes had arguably real economic concerns? No one at the Times.

Nor, I suspect, do Vanity Fair readers want to read positive reviews of Trump properties right now. Any Trump bashing, on the other hand, guarantees clicks from the large (but melting down!) progressive community. I am confident that there are people who will happily subscribe right now to a guaranteed year of "This Is How Hard Trump Sucks" coverage, based on Mr. Rutenberg's lead anecdote.

But is this really the salvation of the news industry?

Mr. Rutenberg is apparently unable to connect his lede to his theme, or maybe doesn't see the gap:

But in the weeks since the election, magazines like The New Yorker, The Atlantic and Vanity Fair; newspapers including The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Los Angeles Times and The Washington Post; and nonprofits like NPR and ProPublica have been reporting big boosts in subscription rates or donations.

It’s as if Mr. Trump’s media attacks have combined with the heightened attention on the perils of fake news to create one big fat advertisement for the value of basic journalism.

“The fake news business is going to be great for journalism in the long run,” Mr. Carter told me Friday, referring to Mr. Trump as “the Fake Newser in Chief.” “Proper news organizations should thrive under this.”

"Proper news" such as calm, objective analysis declaring a Trump restaurant the "worst in America"? Please. And with the exception of the WSJ, those are all left-leaning outlets. What, people didn't value their coverage under Obama?

No. In the twilight struggle between affirmation and information, the Vanity Fair example shows that affirmation has won.

I HAVE TO ADD: I didn't read the Vanity Fair article to the end so I can't say definitively that the author, Tina Nguyen, declared the grill to be dreadful because of the high risk of seeing tourists dining there who also shop at WalMart. But she might have!

SINCE YOU ASK: Yelp reviews for the Trump Grill can be sorted by date, including oldest first. Believe it or not, a lot of the reviews in the post-election period are negative!

I would say the early reviews (2008-2012 appear on the first page) are mixed to negative. But Worst?

Comments

[common man]

First?

[Early satiety.]

Absorb Obama and half an hour later you are hungry again.

[lyle]

I'm reposting this from the last thread:

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2016/12/obama-plans-to-rule-america-outside.html

Does anyone really think a President Trump will put up with this?

[jimmyk]

Pretty funny that it looks like Hillary will lose more EVs than Trump from faithless electors. Four already from WA.

TX should be voting pretty soon now that they've replaced the four absent voters. Apparently this Suprun fraud is there. I was hoping there would be a motion to make him ineligible, but it hasn't happened yet.

Here's a better live feed from TX:

https://www.periscope.tv/ABCNews4/1OyJAAzrgabJb

[Old Lurker]

Lyle "Does anyone really think a President Trump will put up with this?"

Do you think Trump and Putin ever saw "Strangers on a train"?

[lurkersusie]

Only in Colorado

Kurt Schlichter@KurtSchlichter

Commie fucks https://twitter.com/sarahbellumd/status/810928937614405634 …

[Captain Hate]

Is there anything more pathetic than spiteful losers?

[lyle]

Do you think Trump and Putin ever saw "Strangers on a train"?

Interesting question, OL.

[Jim Eagle]

So, the Death Star is now located in the Manhattan borough of New York?

Graydon Carter is a partner in The Waverly Inn, west Village, which is one of our favorites. Great bar and superb food but then I am one of those Trumpian neanderthals, so what would I know. It could be worse than Trump Tower for all I kow.

[jimmyk]

Trump now at 268. Only TX remains.

[buccaneer morgan]

Alehouse noted how the piece was placed on the online edition with a picture of Taylor swift which prompted Marvin gate reference

[Truthbetold5]

"Companies like Bechtel Corp. have ties to the Clintons through Podesta Group, a Washington, D.C. lobbying firm."

Maybe This Is Why Hillary Clinton Is Such A Big Supporter Of The Export-Import Bank
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/07/clinton-defends-ex-im-bank-which-benefits-clinton-foundation-donors/#ixzz4TK5AIcq3

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbH60wCO-Yw

"God Bless Texas"

[Account Deleted]

ROFLMMFAO @ "Commie fucks"

Thanks for my belly laff of the day lurkersusie! ;)

[Porchlight]

Waiting on Texas. Does this mean Bernie still has a chance?

[Barry]

"God Bless Texas"

They need an infusion of energy today. Almost as bad as low energy Jeb!

[GUS]

Kev @4:55, you KNOW I second that emotion. Lurkersusie, the only thing missing is the CAPS.

COMMIE FUCKS!! Indeeeeeed.

[GUS]

So lets play the new LIBTARD CONSPIRACY GAME......SHALL WE???

Obama said he "could do things" to RUSSIA/PUTIN.

Oh dear, his rhetoric just got an AMBASSADOR murdered.

Isn't that how LIBTARDS play the game????

[Jim Eagle]

"Cut it out, GUS":)

He believes his own lies and that is what makes him dangerous even out of office. The best way for Trump to handle this puss is to tell him he is yesterday and just STFU.

[lurkersusie]

Aw

Verified account ‏@imillhiser

Today's heartbreaking fact: Bill Clinton is an Electoral College member from NY. He wanted to be one of the people who elects his wife.
6:05 AM - 19 Dec 2016

[lurkersusie]

Lol, you can't make this up

DRAMA: Elector Replaced After Refusing to Vote Clinton... http://cbsloc.al/2i2tYVu

[jimmyk]

Texas finally voting. They evidently have a lot of time on their hands. No motion to disqualify Suprun or even to put him in stocks or tar and feather him.

[Tom R]

MAG_Trump poster on reddit is saying the Texas GOP is beyond disorganized with how they are handling what should be a formality.

[Jim Eagle]

lurker susie's 5:20 and "faithless" votes in another state (?) tell me that there is still strong Bernie-bot support out there and that bodes well for Trump 4 years from now.

Freedom isn't free but college, healthcare, living wage, transportation and rave concerts should be.

[jimmyk]

Trump gets 36 in TX!! One for Ron Paul and one for the mailman's son.

[Old Lurker]

Opening the bar early tonight!

[Momto2]

Is everyone in off the ledge now???

[Porchlight]

So does Trump go down in history as having won 306 or 304?

[Porchlight]

OL,

All righty then fam.

Time to drink!

[jimmyk]

I think 304, unless TX does something about the losers faithless electors.

Of course Hillary will go down in history with only 228.

[Marlene]

I have to give credit to Rick Bennett,the Trump elector in Maine,in fact the only Trump elector in New England. Yay! 2nd District! He recently resigned as the Maine GOP chair. His kids are now in college and he will probably run for statewide office.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

FINALLY! Just poured myself a glass of wine. (Cheap stuff, of course.)

Texas beclowned themselves. I thought the guys on Reddit were going to stroke out due to all of the votes and recesses.

[common man]

Ron Paul? Oh brother. Was this Suprun?

[DemsArentInsaneEverybodyElseIs👂]

Short of the space alien from creatous hell reptlian commander, jesus christ himself, whose blood we drink and flesh we eat in the hopes of being damned in death and raised by the devil himself coming from a hole in the sky through which you can fly in his gleaming robes on his shiny white horse - there is no reason for an elect to overthrow my vote.🐸

[Momto2]

Love this!!

Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii
It would appear that America doesn't give a damn what Hollywood thinks.

86 replies 532 retweets 1,359 likes

[jimmyk]

37 VP votes for Pence, 1 for Carly Fiorina.

Suprun had said he'd vote for Kasich.

[Momto2]

So basically the Dems, the MSM (but I repeat myself), and Hollywood has taken what would have been a formality, a blimp on the radar, and turned it into Another Big Win for PE Trump and another night to celebrate for us!

A toast - "To PE Trump, to all the Deplorables, and to 8 years of MAGA!!!"

[Porchlight]

jimmyk,

I think though if you look at the election maps for 2016 it will always say 306-232 regardless of the final EV vote tally.

Otherwise it would be confusing, as the numbers would't add up (number of EVs available per state, total number of EVs in college, etc.).

For example: http://www.270towin.com/

[Thomas Collins]

OK, The second stage has been completed or is nearing completion. Now for the counting of the votes and the hearing of objections in Congress, if any.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/15

[James D.]

Victory! Finally! Officially!

[Thomas Collins]

What's the over/under on the number of objections to be filed by Congresscritters to the final Electoral College vote count? I'll say three.

[Thomas Collins]

Not yet, James D. Congress hasn't counted the votes yet.

[jimmyk]

Hi Porch, I think it depends on the source. I posted earlier that on Wiki they do the actual tally. For example in 1976 there was one vote for Reagan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1976

[windansea]

FINALLY! Just poured myself a glass of wine. (Cheap stuff, of course.)

MM don't let the wine snobs (there are a few here) get you down.

A lot of those expensive wines are fakes, watched Sour Grapes on Netflix the other night, in which a slick Indonesian named Rudy conned the elite wine world of millions, including Bill Koch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptMIqilXOE

[common man]

What kind of idiot thought that they were going to be successful at suborning electors to abandon their pledge? That would be Hollywood idiots which a rare and special breed of idiot...

[Thomas Collins]

I was feeling guilty about not paying off my side of the bet, Porchlight, but, having checked the US Constitution and section 15 of title 3 of the US Code, I conclude that the clock doesn't start running until Congress counts the votes.

By the way, Porchlight, on my Christmas list for my family I put as my first priority a Carleton College cap. So I'm getting ready to do the deed. I'll buy some regalia myself if my family doesn't come through.

[lyle]

Wine snobs? Here? Whoever might you be referring to? 🍷😬

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

windandsea,

Oh, it doesn't bother me. I have smoked since I was 15, so the fact is that I don't have the sense of taste that the wine afficianados do. The advantage is that I can buy the Australian or Chilean table merlots and it tastes just fine to me.

8.99 - 10.99 for the big bottle! Or I can go over to Aldis and buy their Winking Owl merlot for 2.59 for the smaller bottle!

lyle's cellar is mysterious to me. I probably couldn't tell the difference between his most expensive bottle and the junk I buy, so don't anyone offer to invite me to a wine-tasting; it would be a waste of your money. LOL!

[Porchlight]

TC, you are a man of your word. I love that. :)

My own BIL didn't even pay up on his bet!

[cheerleader]

They can call his restaurant the worst in America, but the worst comment in the story, was to call to Mr. Trump “the Fake Newser in Chief.”

And it's not so much their saying it, it's their thinking it, and writing it, and persuading others to believe it, which is bigoted misperception based on falsity and manifested in slander.

But most of all, it's the main reason they lost the election. They don't know their enemy at all, have not yet seen that the enemy is themselves. They are ignoring the rule of holes, and for Republicans that is good news indeed.

As I've said before, they lack the introspection gene.

[Porchlight]

jimmyk, I can live with it either way, but come 2020 I'm going to be using the 306-232 numbers in order to compare apples to apples, independent of post-election silliness.

[clarice]

"What kind of idiot thought that they were going to be successful at suborning electors to abandon their pledge? "
Harvard LS Professor Lessig.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

cheerleader,

Boy, truer words were never spoken! Why they think they can bring people to their side by insults and threats, I have no idea.

Lack of the introspection gene is an excellent analysis!

[windansea]

Lyle, you are one of the worst! Just kidding, you are clearly a connoisuer of fine wines and am always jealous of what you are having for dinner.

Plus I used to live in Hailey so I am cool!

[Porchlight]

cheerleader,

Yesterday even CNN was forced to report that trust in the MSM is now under 10%.

And yet they reserve the right to deem news fake.

[henry - drunk on prog tears]

Egg McMuffin got goose eggs again. :)

[cheerleader]

The New York Post published a story a few days ago saying that Ivanka may be occupying the First Lady's office. I haven't been able to keep up with the threads, has that been discussed here?

[Janet]

Did any Dem electors get to write a NYTimes op-ed on why they weren't gonna vote for Hillary?
Where was THAT story?
All we've been hearing about is that fool from Texas because he was bad for Trump.

Why didn't we hear about any of the Hillary Haters?

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

"trust in the MSM is now under 10%." Trust in the MSM exists? Where?

[cheerleader]

Hiya Miss Marple,

Is the furnace problem resolved yet?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Porchlight,

All they would have to do is start giving Trump a bit of positive coverage.

But no, instead they double down.

So people like me just skip any MSM source and hit the places like Reddit, Conservative Treehouse, and Infowars.

Do they sometimes get stuff wrong? Sure. But it's a mistake borne of error, not malicious intent. Besides, I can always check other sources.

[henry - drunk on prog tears]

I will simply note the "non partisan" aka Dem groups had 6 years to get these people photo IDs., but would rather have the examples for their lawsuits. Figure 20,000 of the 40,000 drop in Milwaukee vote have valid IL IDs and like free bus rides (see O'Keefe vids) and you see where the argument comes from.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

cheerleader,

Yes, furnace solved, and I am very grateeful that it's fixed! Thanks for asking!

[cheerleader]

Porchlight, I guess they expect different results by doing the same thing over and over again :-)

[buccaneer morgan]

You see why red queen had no respect for him, don't you.

Great news miss marple.

[cheerleader]

I'm happy that all is well now, Miss Marple.

[lyle]

Small world, Windansea.

[PD]

Graydon Carter, no talent, will be out!

But he had such marvelous hair in Arbitrage. Surely that counts for something.

[buccaneer morgan]

So seeing as krugman already dialed to eleventy, how long before he references soylent green?

[anonamom]

MM--if you have Trader Joes around, get yourself a bottle of Trentarte and see how you like that. It's an Italian blend of three varietals. Sells for $5.99 here.

I like it as much as anything I drink until we open a bottle of some twenty year old French stuff that we bought long ago and is now retailing for $400.

So there! to everything in between, as far as I'm concerned.

FYI, the pineapple jello vodka shooters we made for tonight in light of my husband's colonoscopy tomorrow and his clear liquid diet tonight--not so great. Maybe lime would have been a better choice.

MAGA!

[buccaneer morgan]

While waiting at Walgreen I skimmed the man of the year cover, two things of note trump team were in black and white, whereas red queen was in color, and they had A man in the high castle insert.

[Comanche Voter]

Lots of competition for "worst restaurant in America". I invite the Vanity Fair writer out here to Los Angeles where the aficionados know that if you wanna eat Mexican, the places with the "B' health card in the window will have both the best and the worst Mexican food.

OTOH there's even more competition for worst newspaper in America. Right now the Los Angeles Times is in the lead, followed closely by the New York Times and the Washington Post.

As for worst magazine in the USA, Vanity Fair doesn't even come close---Time and Newsweek have lapped the field--twice--in that regard.

[PD]

And yet they reserve the right to deem news fake.

And over on MSNBC, they actually have Brian Williams -- BRIAN WILLIAMS -- instructing us on what fake news is.

Or maybe the idea is Set a thief to catch a thief.

[buccaneer morgan]

Condemn nasty is the illustrated kos

[PD]

Absorb Obama and half an hour later you

...are puking your guts out.

[PD]

Has Jill Stein asked for a recount yet?

[cheerleader]

In the CTC Christmas recipe thread someone said that raspberries combine well with cranberries. Has anyone here tried that? If it's horrible, Trump could feature it in his restaurant. JOKING

[matt, deplore me if you must]

Obama is simply taking Alinsky to the next level by trying to de-legitimize the Trump administration.

This is going to be a Monkey Wrench Gang effort.

Obama, if the Sultan is correct, wants to keep the OWS/BLM/PajamaPeople dialed up to 11 like the community organizer he is.

The opportunity lies with Trump if he governs smartly. Getting people back to work, focusing on fair and free trade, and being nice is going to kill Obama.

Obama's minions in the media have taken a hammering and the rest of the country looks at the whiners as bitter losers. Let them keep up the tantrums and cut them off at the knees with ridicule and disapprobation.

Maybe Trump can go one better on the apparatchiks by declaring that Trump U was just the first of investigations of the university system for fraud and abuse and then start with the Ivys. Transgender creative arts studies my ass!

[cheerleader]

Here's another CTC Christmas recipe that Trump could feature in his restaurant, he change the name to Worst Dip in America. (I can hardy wait to make it.)

heldnmut says:

December 16, 2016 at 12:05 pm

Best Dip Ever Recipe (really, really good!)
3 (8 oz) pkgs cream cheese,
1 small pkg lemon jello,
1 can tomato soup.
Mix together over low heat. Use electric mixer to make creamy. Remove from heat.

Add: 1 cup Miracle Whip, 1/3 cup chopped onions, 1/2 cup chopped green & red bell pepper, and 1 cup chopped pecans.

Mix well. Refrigerate overnight. Serve with raw vegetables or crackers.

This is a real crowd-pleaser and I always get asked for the recipe!
Merry Christmas!

[henry - drunk on prog tears]

Exactly Matt. Wisconsin put up with 4 years of activism on eleventy!!!! keeping Walker, expanding R majorities in both sides of the legislature, gaining the SC, and electing Trump over the D lock on President. Odumbo may deliver our dreams. :)

[GUS]

Henry, when I see a blue fist bumper sticker, I honk and give them 1/5 of my fist.
Nothing says COEXIST like a BLUE FIST.

[PD]

Gus, no doubt you have seen cars with COEXIST featured side by side with RECALL WALKER.

Introspection gene at work.

[cheerleader]

I almost feel sorry for Obama going against Trump.

Trump has already said several times, that he is going to do something about the flag burners. "I don't like it when they do that to our flag."

At what point does freedom of expression become sedition?

[FTL]

You know, in the final scene of Apocalypse Now, it's too bad they didn't use Martin Sheen as a stand-in for that poor beef critter that was machete'd to death.

I really mean that.

[Buckeye]

Two really high end beverage experiences,

An Italian Super Tuscan that RP gave 100 points.....$1100/bottle.

Remy Martin Louis XIII......$5600/bottle.

Obviously not on "regular guy's nickel".

[Momto2]

Speaking of worst restaurants reminds me of a funny FB page -
We Want Plates where people post outrageous serving "ideas" that restaurants use instead of plates in an attempt to be edgy and interesting maybe? But end up being ridiculous and worthy of the mockery they receive!

https://www.facebook.com/WeWantPlates/

[GUS]

PD today on Marquette's campus, I saw an old dude with old BUICK. Bumper Stickers said.....RE-ELECT SCOTT WALKER and NOT A LIBERAL.
Gus Jr and I were crackin' up.

[FTL]

At what point does freedom of expression become sedition?

Ask Jane

...

Fonda.

[Account Deleted]

I'm loving the difference in feeling and mood since EmoCrats sold out the Republic, by electing B-Ho twice, and now with the 2016 victory by Donald Trump that smashed Hamrod the Clintoona.

Every day he held office, B-Ho managed to validate my fury, indignance and vitriol.

B-Ho validated my abject hostility every time he went golfing. News of his lavish and taxpayer subsidized fundraising, while not accomplishing *DICK* in the meantime as POTUS, would find me shaking my head--- all that cash is doing exactly what? (I guess we’ll be finding out more and more, won’t we?)

Today, I am imagining the Left hating Trump but having to cope with the impacts of what he'll accomplish. And in the process of getting down to business, our new POTUS will be systematically exposing the fraud and “empty chair” Clint Eastwood identified at the 2012 GOP Convention (my doesn’t that seem light years ago!).

There is a difference between blaming one's predecessor for circumstances and exposing the fraud of one's predecessor and his collaborating minions be they in the public or private sectors (think Solyndra and GE).

Make no mistake: we are in for some rough and tough economic times. There will be a lot of pain before Trump's second term. But Trump will solve some of the problems that B-Ho either created or kicked down the road and ignore altogether.

And if he doesn't solve them in the short-term, Trump will initiate longer-term solutions because he is intelligent and he will have advisors around him who understand how the world works as opposed to douche bags like Austen Goolsby or Valerie Jarrett.

In the process, Trump will lay out for the American people why we ended up in the messes we are in, and how the EmoCrat leadership--- the lack of it--- contributed to the severity of it all over the last 25 years since Bubba got control of things.

I believe the lives of EmoCrats are going to change for the worse during POTUS Trump’s ascendancy in office. A lot of EmoCrat voters are going to drop out of the game because they’re weak. People of words are no match for people united in deeds. The EmoCrat currency of words being their bond will be rendered impotent. Chastising conservatives and berating our values in the Trump-era will be like throwing biscuits at a battleship.

And while they express their impotent creed, spouting their shibboleths amongst themselves, they’ll be doing so while getting their butts whupped economically as--

1)their soft money 501 c 3 non-profit gravy trains dry up,

2)they lose their cozy local, state, regional or federalie job security, and

3)fail to understand that what they think is "fake news" about the economy is actually the stuff they should be listening to and acting on.

Buh-bye. The self-loathing of true powerlessness will be palpable. Wulf Blitzer and Jake Tapper will be unable to buy new suits and will appear on TV looking just a little bit bad around the edges. Martha Raddatz and Hoody Woodruff will look all the more haggard. Davey Brooks will become unaffordable overhead at the NYT. And the harlots at “The View” will experience the joys of losing market share. It’s going to get nasty; but, it is all of their own making. Their Berlin has been bombed into the stone age; but, they were all convinced victory was in hand. Sound familiar?

But they are addicted to their cult of personality. And they make asses of themselves now. Still they cling to the nonsense streaming out of the White House and on primetime TV tonight with Fat Oprah interviewing Fat Michelle about their “coolness” and coy “we’ll be back” innuendo. I hope Michelle Obama runs for national office and gets destroyed under scrutiny of angry voters who will have heard by then all about her lavish self-indulgence on the taxpayer dime.

And, all of this B-Ho puffery about what he is going to do to "lead" once he is out of office reminds me of something I used to see all the time playing football and rugby.

During the seasons, the posers who would come out so they could say they were a football player or a rugger--- they'd hide from the coaches during games and make themselves scarce during practices because they didn't like to get hit.

Then at the end of the season they'd sit around and boast about how they were going to train and condition themselves during the offseason so they could "come back better and stronger."

Ya right. Once a coward, always a coward.

I don't perceive many of the EmoCrat voters here in Berkeley as having the guts to stay "active" in the wake of this election.

EmoCrat voters are yammering about "resistance" with that beret-wearing nonsensical, coffeehouse shitscola with which they like to associate themselves(you know, people during war time who actually were willing to catch a bullet for their beliefs).

It's going to be a long 8 years for the Children of Lucifer.

[lyle]

Who was the super Tuscan producer, Buckeye?

[buccaneer morgan]

They are all Baghdad bob, Kev,

Meanwhile this ng mars series seems as long as the journey to the red planet. They should have signed Andy weir as script consultant.

[clarice]

Want something fun for your holiday buffet?Make chocolate salami--serve on wooden cutting board with a knife--here's one way to make it:http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/giada-de-laurentiis/chocolate-dessert-salami-recipe.html

[jimmyk]

So people like me just skip any MSM source and hit the places like Reddit, Conservative Treehouse, and Infowars.

And then the MSM ridicules us for only reading sources that confirm our opinions. The fact is, I've read publications like the NYT, WaPo, New Republic, and others over the years. As long as the news was straight and the opinions reasonably argued, I was happy to read them. Then they all jumped the shark. It's really only libs that refuse to confront themselves alternative viewpoints.

[jimmyk]

*with* alternative viewpoints.

[Account Deleted]

https://i.sli.mg/gOMOqO.gif

*FUNNY*

[cheerleader]

Momto2, Wow, am I ever out of it, that trend has escaped me altogether. At first I thought they were fakes ...

[Momto2]

I know cheerleader - I think sometimes they just run out of ways to be different and will do *anything* just because they don't want to be "boring".

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

jimmyk,

Yes I suppose I do read other stuff. It's just that searching for news without having one's intelligence insulted (or worse, your very existence insulted) has gotten to be a bit much.

I post stuff here from other sources like Politico, The Hill, Time (did it today), and others, so it's not like I don't read publications which don't agree with me.

I do get tired of having to read them like Kremlinologists in the Cold War, looking for signs of what's really going on.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

" People of words are no match for people united in deeds."

That is a really good line, Kevlar Kid!

[maryrose]

Clarice:
How was your dinner party and what did you serve?