Can we find some "fake news" on the front page of the NY Times? Yes we can!
WASHINGTON — America should not torture. Russia is a menace. A wall at the Mexican border would not be effective. A blanket ban against Muslims is wrong. Climate change is a threat.
Those statements are in direct opposition to some of the most significant declarations that President-elect Donald J. Trump made before his improbable ascension to the White House. They are also the words of his own nominees to lead the nation’s most important government agencies.
"A blanket ban against Muslims is wrong" and Trump's own nominees say so. This is not news to regular readers of, to pick a news source almost at random, the NY Times. Let's roll the tape:
Mike Pence Disavows Donald Trump’s Earlier Proposal Barring Muslims
The Trump campaign appeared to disavow one of its most provocative policy proposals on Thursday, as Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana said explicitly that Donald J. Trump no longer wanted to impose a temporary ban on Muslim immigration to the United States.
In a round of television interviews in which he was asked to clarify once and for all where the campaign stands on the proposal, Mr. Pence, who opposed the ban before becoming Mr. Trump’s running mate, declared the idea dead. The reversal is a significant one for the Trump campaign, which was accused of promoting a policy that was discriminatory and probably unconstitutional when Mr. Trump unveiled it in the name of national security last year.
Asked on CNN about why he will not condemn the Muslim ban now, Mr. Pence said, “Because that’s not Donald Trump’s position now.”
Was this a bolt from the blue, or even the Twitterverse? Not exactly. Let's go further back in time:
Many What-Ifs in Donald Trump’s Plan for Migrants
In an address after the Orlando massacre punctuated with dire warnings of impending violence, Donald J. Trump said he would “suspend immigration from areas of the world when there is a proven history of terrorism” against the United States or its allies. Mr. Trump promised fixes to the immigration system that would be “tough” and “smart” and “fast.”
It sounded much like his provocative proposal to keep Muslims from entering the country, but those listening closely noticed an important change. By proposing to bar people from certain regions rather than religions, Mr. Trump had avoided the sticky issue of testing someone’s faith.
Mr. Trump’s plan, lawyers and legal scholars agree, is one that the president has the power to carry out.
Hmm, did the Times reporters and editors forget this between October and now? Not really:
Dec. 22, 2016 J. David Goodman and Ron Nixon
Obama to Dismantle Visitor Registry Before Trump Can Revive It
The Obama administration is dismantling a dormant national registry program for visitors from countries with active terrorist groups — a program that President-elect Donald J. Trump has suggested he is considering resurrecting.
The registry, created after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has not been in use since 2011, so the move is largely symbolic and appeared to be aimed at distancing the departing administration from any effort by the new president to revive the program, known as the National Security Entry-Exit Registration System, or Nseers.
Asked on Wednesday, in the aftermath of the Berlin attack, whether he still intended to set up a registry for Muslims and impose a temporary ban on Muslim immigrants, Mr. Trump said in Florida, “You know my plans.” Hours later, a spokesman said Mr. Trump was not reaffirming his earlier calls for a ban on immigration from Muslim countries but was referring to his more recent clarification that he would bar people from countries with a history of Islamist extremism.
But that was three long weeks ago, so whatever. My guess as to the dynamic in play? Every NY Times news meeting opens with "What is our Trump outrage du jour?". The staffers want it and their readers need it, so stories are bent to fit the desired narrative. In this instance, despite repeated reporting and clarifications the NY Times is intent on pretending that a blanket Muslim ban remains Trump's policy.
Fake news.
By way of contrast, Abigail Hauslohner of the WaPo focused on reality, with actual testimony excerpts.
ah, new thread smell. that can't be faked.
Posted by: henry | January 13, 2017 at 06:58 PM
I'll take #2 :)
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2017 at 07:04 PM
the business world is not like a political party or academia. You will have zero success if you do not listen to a variety of opinions. Once a decision is made, you work together to succeed. But before the decision, well though out positions are welcome.
The marching in lock step is the proud-nonscience of Global Climate Change, or the Democrat Party, or the SJW.
That doesn't really work in those places either, but in business you don't get free money to play with.
Posted by: henry | January 13, 2017 at 07:04 PM
Trump has them guessing already. The NYT and other outlets need to bring in ball gazers if they think they can figure him out.
Keep 'em guessing, Donald.
If has the MFM guessing what do you think Putin and Xi are thinking.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | January 13, 2017 at 07:17 PM
new threads are for beginners, I prefer scrolling through 14 pages
Posted by: peter | January 13, 2017 at 07:17 PM
peter,
High of 48f today in Southampton. Surfers out at Cooper's Beach.
What was it like on the North Fork?
Posted by: Jim Eagle | January 13, 2017 at 07:19 PM
Posted by: peter | January 13, 2017 at 07:17 PM
I had to scroll my little carney fingers off today on my phone after missing all day yesterday.
Nebber a-din.
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2017 at 07:20 PM
Jack, Putin & Xi are after Crazy Barry's going out of business sale. Beyond that life gets tough.
Posted by: henry | January 13, 2017 at 07:20 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/01/11/rand-paul-anyone-leaked-trump-intel-report-press-jailed/
Let's keep our eyes on the mother[redact]er birdie.
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2017 at 07:25 PM
Top story on BBC: The Bush daughters crying letter to the Obama girls.
Natch.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | January 13, 2017 at 07:26 PM
I couldn't say, Jack is back, I was in Queens and Nassau County today. Congratulations on Frederic's choice not to commute. As someone who did commute three hours a day to high school, I can definitely tell you it is not worth it.
Posted by: peter | January 13, 2017 at 07:27 PM
So, no jail time for Brennan?
"TRUMP HAS A AVOIDED..."
Buried lede.
Posted by: Willy | January 13, 2017 at 07:30 PM
So now the IG of the DOJ is going after Comey.. What a mess.
And John Lewis spouting he doesn't believe Trump's presidency is legitimate. I hope DJT's crew has a plan to finesse these idiots, bigly.
Posted by: glasater | January 13, 2017 at 07:33 PM
well, the WSJ this morning suggested Come should resign -- after playing both sides evenly.
Personal opinion is a larger broom is needed than that AG... and Slick & Loretta in an airplane unsupervised would be high on the list of crumbs to aim the broom at.
Posted by: henry | January 13, 2017 at 07:38 PM
Posted by: henry | January 13, 2017 at 07:38 PM
DC is a target-rich environment. If DJT chooses wisely, his first target might send a lot of the rats into hiding (as if they can hide).
Upcoming "Pardon Week" should be interesting.
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2017 at 07:44 PM
HOW GEORGE SOROS DESTROYED THE DEMOCRAT PARTY
December 2016| By Daniel Greenfield
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/265265/how-george-soros-destroyed-democratic-party-daniel-greenfield#.WGUWeYi3jjU.facebook
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2017 at 07:50 PM
Well, the OIG, Offices of Inspectors General, are actually a part of the intelligence community 🍸when they changed their agency status a few years ago like the NSA. So, that's who will be investigating the FBI that had to be peer pressured into compliance with the community. Maybe it was blackmail, like the FBI took in the video blackmail from the military intelligence 'I'm not a spy anymore, really, trust me' gutter raking informant.
Told ya; it's like talking to the third Reich. Imagine what these nutbars have done to protect us...🐒
Truth is Trump beat 'em to the punch.💎
Posted by: Lucy Firre | January 13, 2017 at 07:56 PM
Off to reading and settling into the deep sleep that comes with it.
Go Trump and his learned and experienced cabinet. Lets all wait until they are confirmed.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | January 13, 2017 at 07:56 PM
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/busting-5-big-myths-about-obamacare-repeal/
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2017 at 08:02 PM
JiB, as you go to sleep, remember what porch reminded us earlier today--
tomorrow is the last Saturday that Obama will be president.
Sweet dreams!
Posted by: anonamom | January 13, 2017 at 08:13 PM
One of the disgusting reasons the PMOFreedom given to Joe Biden is a complete desecration of the award to heroes of the past:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443858/joe-biden-legacy-abortion-democrat-partisan
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2017 at 08:15 PM
Posted by: anonamom | January 13, 2017 at 08:13 PM
So then, by beer thirty next Friday.... he gone? ;)
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2017 at 08:16 PM
Gonesville, KK. At least from the White House.
Posted by: Porchlight | January 13, 2017 at 08:22 PM
Howdy friends...
Any of you readers have good recommendations for biographies of George Marshall and Ernest J. King? Amazon ratings tend to skew upward based on the subject matter, rather than the biography itself.
Not so much interested in the facts of their lives (that's all interesting), but more in analysis of how they became what they were and did what they did.
Thanks!
Posted by: Soylent Red | January 13, 2017 at 08:26 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/13/latest-why-she-lost-clinton-conspiracy-theory-is-about-people-seeing-tabloids-in-grocery-lines/
The climactic end to the rich and powerful queen-who-might-have-been.
ROFLMMAO
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2017 at 08:26 PM
Posted by: Porchlight | January 13, 2017 at 08:22 PM
That's about the size of it, Porch.
The landing team will have to call in scrubbers to get the pot resin off the walls.
Scumbaggio.
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2017 at 08:28 PM
Will DJT's gardeners rototill Mooch's punkin' patch?
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2017 at 08:29 PM
KevlarKid,
They will if DJT builds that huge ballroom he's been wanting the White House to have for several years.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | January 13, 2017 at 08:32 PM
There's an indoor pool under the current WH press room that could be reclaimed.
Posted by: DebinNC | January 13, 2017 at 08:36 PM
MM-
That settles it then. I am pro-ballroom.
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 13, 2017 at 08:36 PM
Let us not forget a New Year celebration tends t wind down as Jan progresses. Then those nasty resolutions come on like a Cusano Rojo two day hangover.
The third day on is what I pine for.
Posted by: Willy | January 13, 2017 at 08:38 PM
Finesse is, I believe, not in DJT's vocabulary. Roll, bait, shuck, bamboozle, and killshot to the hed are, I believe.
Posted by: matt, deplore me if you must | January 13, 2017 at 08:39 PM
Soylent!
Posted by: Porchlight | January 13, 2017 at 08:43 PM
Soylent, there was an excellent bio on King done back in the late 50's or early 60's but it's been so long I've forgotten. You can;'t go wrong with Morrison. He was an irascible SOB but thank God we had him. Just imagining him in the same room with Stalin staring him down sort of describes his good points.
Never read one on Marshall. I liked the action generals and admirals. I still have my dad's copy of American Caesar and most of his set of Churchill's oeuvre.
Posted by: matt, deplore me if you must | January 13, 2017 at 08:44 PM
Forrest pogue's seems to be the standard, don't know if it's still in print, it was done in 1990
Posted by: narciso | January 13, 2017 at 08:50 PM
John Lewis spit on me. It might have been my parrot flicking water around but I'm sticking with my story.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 13, 2017 at 08:56 PM
How the MSM committed suicide
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/cathedral-interprets-facebook-chicago-attack/
Posted by: anonamom | January 13, 2017 at 09:04 PM
Deb,
I think a trapdoor with spring mechanism a la Dr. No would be in order.
Fill the pool with piranha.
Heck, why not? They already think Trump is some sort of a Bond villain.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | January 13, 2017 at 09:05 PM
Dave:
You are so funny!
Posted by: maryrose | January 13, 2017 at 09:09 PM
Hmmmm...maybe this didn't sound exactly the way she meant it to sound!
Donna Brazile @donnabrazile 5h5 hours ago
GOP is threatening the Office of Government Ethics for criticizing Trump. During Obama presidency, nobody even heard of the OGE.
109 replies 788 retweets 1,587 likes
Posted by: Momto2 | January 13, 2017 at 09:15 PM
How the WH pool built in 1933 for FDR's therapy, became the WH briefing room.
Posted by: DebinNC | January 13, 2017 at 09:15 PM
Hi, Soylent--Miss you,
I'll be traveling tomorrow--so if I miss any birthdays and such, I apologize..also try to keep the posts to a minimum for a week so I can catchup. Heh..
Posted by: Clarice Feldman | January 13, 2017 at 09:16 PM
Alan rappaport snorffle check newsbusters why for.
Posted by: narciso | January 13, 2017 at 09:19 PM
Yep - these Republican Congressmen are all about helping us MAGA aren't they?
WASHINGTON DC – A staffer for Republican Senator Mike Lee told trade experts at a lunch in Washington this week that he is looking into ways to curtail the president’s wide-ranging powers to impose tariffs, according to one of Lee’s aides.
The aide said a bill could be introduced as early as next week, and it may require Trump to go through Congress to use tariffs.
Posted by: Momto2 | January 13, 2017 at 09:22 PM
http://freebeacon.com/politics/manchin-rebukes-lewis-trump-comment/
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | January 13, 2017 at 09:35 PM
What Cecil said makes the most sense on the previous thread.
No one on this blog has worked in Congress at these high levels.
Totally disagree with many assessments.
Trump is good at picking good people , delegating duties, fighting his enemies and running his companies.
All the rest remains to be seen
He is not my hero yet.
We will see how diplomatic he can be.
I won't submit his name for sainthood because so far he has only one miracle"winning the electionI believe the number needed is 3.
McClintock ran for governor in California and lost.I don't know his money expertise but I am sure if he is talented they will use those skills.
Posted by: maryrose | January 13, 2017 at 09:35 PM
Then Trump will go through Congress to get his tariffs.
We don't want him to run amok like Obama.
Posted by: maryrose | January 13, 2017 at 09:39 PM
Making token gestures but voting with the Dem block on important matters won't save Manchin in 2018.
Posted by: DebinNC | January 13, 2017 at 09:40 PM
maryrose,
You can't be submitted for sainthood until you are dead.
Any miracles, including his winning, must be credited to other saints, Mary, and Jesus.
I personally think it was due to prayers of millions, petitioning both Christ and various saints and Mary (patroness of the Americas).
I know I prayed to St. Jude, St. Francis, and St. Anthony that they would intercede. I am sure there were many Protestants who prayed to Jesus in the same vain.
Franklin Graham says that he believes God intervened.
That's all I have to say.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | January 13, 2017 at 09:42 PM
Just to belabor the point maryrose - "working in Congress at these high levels" are Sheila Jackson Lee who thinks we planted an American flag on Mars, and Hank Johnson who thinks Guam could tip over....
Maybe we haven't been elected but I submit many of us have knowledge, experience, AND common sense!
Posted by: Momto2 | January 13, 2017 at 09:43 PM
maryrose, nobody here is making Trump a hero.
But Ryan has disappointed us time and time and time again, starting with his pathetic performance in the "debate" with Joe Biden in 2012.
Ryan is a policy wonk who hasn't held a job outside of government since his Weinermobile stint in college, and it shows.
He's all about having The Government run things, and just about everybody here agrees with Reagan's take that The Government is the problem.
I don't know what his aspirations are, and I can even assume his motivations are good. He's just not a fiscal conservative, and he's done/said plenty this past six months to not support the duly elected nominee of his party.
You can sing his praises all you want, but it's going to be a solo, or maybe a duet at best
Wheels up here--good night.
Posted by: anonamom | January 13, 2017 at 09:45 PM
Terrible H-1B visa scandal: @UofCalifornia schools training new tech workers while simultaneously outsourcing their future job opportunities
How the University of California exploited a visa loophole to move tech jobs to India--at taxpayer expense: http://fw.to/MAXGrrl
Posted by: lurkersusie | January 13, 2017 at 09:49 PM
I remeber when Saul Alinksy conspiracies and Jeremy Wright were such tragedies for Obama.
The next four years are going to be awesome. Seeing the unbelievable amounts of hypocricisy are going to be great.
I eagerly await Trump to start trashing the Iraq war again.
Posted by: jor | January 13, 2017 at 09:50 PM
Jessica Vaughan
Jessica Vaughan – @JessicaV_CIS
DHS nominee: Expectation of amnesty attracting immigrants to US border http://washex.am/2j5ITOk via @DCExaminer
Posted by: lurkersusie | January 13, 2017 at 09:50 PM
How did the sack of shit Ryan get on this thread?
Remember this?
I wish we could have one thread where we are not trashing Ryan.
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 13, 2017 at 09:56 PM
I try not think of ryan, he so rarely seems to think things through. E.g. the hamhanded way he handled the ethics committee.
Posted by: narciso | January 13, 2017 at 10:02 PM
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 13, 2017 at 10:06 PM
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 13, 2017 at 10:07 PM
[Representative X]: Trump mass deportations "not happening"
Guess who ?
Posted by: Sandy Daze | January 13, 2017 at 10:08 PM
Maybe Mike Lee should pass a law taking the power of Sainthood away from this Pope.
Posted by: Old Lurker | January 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM
Guess who:(answer at the end)
"S.Con.Res. 3 - 2017 Budget Resolution: NO
January 13, 2017 Vote Notes on Legislation
Vote Note
S.Con.Res. 3 - 2017 Budget Resolution: NO. Instead of a straight-forward measure to repeal Obamacare completely and to replace it with free market reforms that Republican have long advocated, Congress has instead chosen a too-clever-by-half manipulation of the rules that I believe will make repealing Obamacare harder and slower, while further disrupting an already faltering health care market. Worse, by misusing the budget and reconciliation process, Congress has squandered its most important tools to bring spending under control before we bankrupt our country.
OBAMACARE DISCUSSION:
Reconciliation does not repeal Obamacare. Rather, it mangles it and makes Republicans responsible for the ensuing market without the votes to finish the job or replace it with free-market reforms. Since Senate Democrats are unlikely to cooperate on post-reconciliation fixes, we had better be very clear what the health care system will then look like under the best-case scenario.
Obamacare subsidies will end and be replaced with tax credits. Tax penalties to enforce the individual mandate will end. Non-compliance penalties will end. Medicaid will return to its pre-Obamacare condition.
However, even though federal funds are denied for enforcement, the law will still be on the books. The guaranteed issue mandate will continue. State governments will continue to be the primary enforcers of the insurance mandates, and will still have to approve any new plans.
In those states willing to approve non-compliant plans, insurers will have to decide whether to risk civil liability for selling consumers policies that are out of compliance with federal law.
HHS does have significant latitude through the regulatory process to re-define the parameters of the essential benefits mandate, but the law will still require that the new HHS guidance is consistent with benefits found in a “typical” policy. It will still be bound by the Administrative Procedures Act that forbids changes that are considered “arbitrary and capricious.” And, ironically, this latitude will also depend on maintaining the Chevron deference doctrine.
Absent the individual mandate, the adverse selection problem will accelerate and Obamacare-compliant plan premiums will sky-rocket. The availability of non-compliant policies will depend on how much legal risk insurers are willing to assume and whether the individual state is willing to approve them.
We are taking this path solely to by-pass a Democratic filibuster (because Senate Republicans stubbornly refuse to reform cloture) and to give the new President an early victory. We need to ask ourselves how this strategy is likely to play out. The House will send a reconciliation partial-repeal bill as well as clean-up-and- replace bill to the Senate. Under intense Democratic opposition, warning that it will cause chaos in health care, the reconciliation bill will pass and the replacement bill will be blocked. Obamacare will continue to collapse. Indeed, its collapse may accelerate because of added uncertainties in the market.
Democrats have already announced what their response will be: “Republicans passed this over our objections; we warned it would destabilize your health care; it has; and we Democrats will not let them get away with half-measures to try and mask the damage they’ve done.” As public outrage builds against Republicans for “breaking the ACA,” and Republicans send reform measures over to the Senate, Democrats will block them with the refrain: “you broke it; you fix it; and this doesn’t do it.” Under increasing public pressure, Republican attrition will ultimately force Congress to abandon the effort and extend Obamacare indefinitely.
Fortunately, there is an alternative. Pass a clean bill out of the House that completely repeals Obamacare and immediately replaces it with the patient-centered system long advocated by House Republicans. As Obamacare continues its collapse and public outrage mounts against Democrats for imposing the ACA, Republicans are in a strong position to say, “We warned Obamacare would fail; it has failed; here is the reform that will save your family’s health care; but the same Senate Democrats who created this fiasco now stand in the way.” With the House having passed the rescue bill, the President calling for it and Senate Republicans clamoring to pass it, pressure on the eight hold-out Democrats would be enormous. The Senate could then force Democrats to engage in a genuine filibuster until public pressure and Democratic attrition break it. The clean bill could then go to the President within months.
BUDGET DISCUSSION
I also object to the misuse of the budget resolution for this purpose. Although it is described and intended as the pre-requisite for the reconciliation bill on Obamacare, it is nevertheless a budget resolution that maintains our current spending trajectory. Under the trajectory set by this resolution, the national debt will balloon from $20 trillion to $30 trillion over the next ten years and never balance. This poses a severe risk of a sovereign debt crisis within the decade. True, we are now beginning the 2018 budget process that can correct this trajectory – but only if the House passes it, which it failed to do last year. And it begins the 2018 budget process with Republicans having already endorsed an unsustainable fiscal course.
Now that we have a Republican president, the reconciliation bill is the most powerful tool we have to actually bring spending under control before we bankrupt our country – and we only get one per budget year. Not only is it ill-suited to repealing Obamacare, I am afraid that by using it in this fashion, we are squandering one of the last chances we have to bring mandatory spending under control before it bankrupts our country."
Yep... dumb ol' Tom McClintock.
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM
Just in from a nice chilly Dogwalk (low teens, lotta' snow). Had not listened to Mark Levin on the Talk Radio AM headsets for months now, but caught a bit of him today while the other shows (Hannity/Prager) were on advertisement breaks.
In the first 2 minute listen I gave to him I found I agreed with every word he said, but I had to turn him off because his anger was so personally off-putting. At work we have a sort of joking phrase we use which is an ultimate truth in a business where we have to work with different guys for extended hours as our trips change each month. The joke is some variety of this: "Man, our job is so easy, why does so and so make it so hard?" That applies perfectly to Mark Levin. What a drag it would be to have to go around the world with that guy and his constant angry bickering. Geez. Is he ever happy? About anything? How can a guy that smart have overlooked learning such a fundamental lesson of life?
Heard him about an hour later during another Prager commercial interlude. By coincidence it was on Dennis's 2nd hour every Friday which BTW is called "The Happiness Hour, " wherein he discusses the importance of being Happy and various topics to be happy about. So I was on a bluff at Kinkaid overlooking the gorgeous frozen Turnagain Sound, dogs by my side, beautiful snow, freezing but happy. Switch to Levin, and now he was fuming because Trump hadn't been tweeting what he thought Trump should have been tweeting about. Levin was disgusted that Trump had been tweeting about "Fake News" and the nominations, instead of tweeting about cutting Regulations.
That's enough Levin for me for the next couple months.
Posted by: daddy | January 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM
That's enough Levin for me for the next couple
monthsyears.Thank you, daddy.
Glad you are listening to Levin so I don't have to. I had to walk on by some time ago because of the anger. Too much.
Posted by: Sandy Daze | January 13, 2017 at 10:17 PM
More from the dope that failed to beat Schwarzenegger in California:
I wish McClintock would sit down with Tapper and laughingly say, "not happening." That's how leaders do it
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM
Me too. His books are good and you don't have to listen to him.
Too bad. Smart guy.
Posted by: Old Lurker | January 13, 2017 at 10:19 PM
Queen of "fake news"
Megyn Kelly Interview Comet Ping Pong Restaurant Owner James Alefantis Pizzagate Conspiracy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TG3k2Bv0jrI
Posted by: Truthbetold5 | January 13, 2017 at 10:23 PM
Rubio's not looking so good now after going after Tillerson!
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/01/13/classic-rubio-gop-colleagues-wonder-how-marcos-going-to-get-himself-out-of-a-jam-on-tillerson/
Posted by: Texas Liberty Gal | January 13, 2017 at 10:24 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-cuba-usa-commerce-idUSKBN14Y02R?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FworldNews+%28Reuters+World+News%29
"The chamber has been urging the Cuban government to sign a number of agreements with major companies such as General Electric (GE.N), negotiated over the last 18 months, before President-elect Donald Trump takes office on Jan. 20."
I wish someone would start investigating Donahue.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | January 13, 2017 at 10:29 PM
Mark Steyn as usual has the perfect rejoinder to this idiocy, fauntleroy Lowry doesn't come off unscathed.
Posted by: narciso | January 13, 2017 at 10:33 PM
Yes invest in a country that has no legal safeguards for your investments Shirley.
Posted by: narciso | January 13, 2017 at 10:36 PM
Hmmm: Senate Intel Committee to investigate Russian meddling — including any connections to political campaigns «
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/01/13/hmmm-senate-intel-committee-to-investigate-russian-meddling-including-any-contacts-with-political-campaigns/
Posted by: lurkersusie | January 13, 2017 at 10:36 PM
Heh, Ryan Who? I hae pretty successfully ignored him, despite the pretty patter on this platform.
Posted by: He's busy marginalizing himself. | January 13, 2017 at 10:45 PM
That '50s TV Show Where a Con Man Named Trump Promised to Build a Wall - Hit & Run : Reason.com
http://reason.com/blog/2017/01/13/that-50s-tv-show-where-a-con-man-named-t
Posted by: lurkersusie | January 13, 2017 at 10:48 PM
Regarding the Chamber of Commerce (which once upon a time I thought defended small business, but those days are gone):
Why are they helping GE? Doesn't GE have their own people to talk to Cuba? Who else among their members would be a big donor?
How about Soros?
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | January 13, 2017 at 10:49 PM
Here's the Mark Steyn story Narciso is referring to at 10:33: Where No Debate Should Exist
I take a slightly different tack from Rich Lowry: I meant what I said when I called the hockey stick "fraudulent", and I'm happy to prove it in a DC court, if their lethargic honors would get off their arses and bring the thing to trial. But, as to the ruling by those three DC judges, I note that ever since Mann's ludicrous "hockey stick" first appeared at the turn of the century I have called it "fraudulent", and in publications far more prominent and with far greater readerships than National Review. I have dismissed the hockey stick as "fraudulent" in, among others, Britain's Sunday Telegraph, Canada's National Post and The Australian - and nobody sued. So, with respect to the DC Court of Appeal, I find it sobering that their ladyships apparently believe that the framers of the First Amendment intended that Americans should have fewer rights to free speech than those territories that remained within the British Empire.
Posted by: daddy | January 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM
Steve Kopack Verified account
@SteveKopack
NEW: TRUMP tells @dowjones he would keep new Russia sanctions imposed by Obama administration in place for "at least for a period of time."
k @SteveKopack 1h1 hour ago
However, WSJ says Trump suggested he could lift them if the Russians prove helpful in battling terrorists & reaching other impt goals
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | January 13, 2017 at 10:57 PM
MM, you nailed the National Chamber.
Now I think they actively work against small business ... well, they have other priorities.
Posted by: sbw | January 13, 2017 at 10:58 PM
sbw,
I think a lot of people in the US are thinking about the CoC like I did. After all, there are local Chambers of Commerce whose members are local businesses like hardware stores, realtors, and car dealerships.
I was unaware until this campaign that the national Chamber of Commerce had big business clients like GE. This is deceptive to the average voter.
I am serious. Is Soros a member, and how much does he donare?
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | January 13, 2017 at 11:04 PM
Pelosi blames Bush for $9 trillion in debt added under Obama

I am surprised that Pelosi is smart enough to know that Obama's adding of $9 Trillion to the Nation Debt is something that needs to be addressed. I don't think she personally thinks it's a real economic problem all, but somebody at least convinced her its a cosmetic problem that needed some vocal pushback. I wonder who told her?
Posted by: daddy | January 13, 2017 at 11:07 PM
KellyAnn Conway on Hannity tonight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJRFbHFUatY
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | January 13, 2017 at 11:14 PM
Peter: "new threads are for beginners, I prefer scrolling through 14 pages"
All I wanted for Christmas was a narcisolator tool that puts you at last page of comments.
Posted by: JimNorCal | January 13, 2017 at 11:18 PM
Yeah!
Historically black college raises $280G for Trump inauguration appearance | Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/13/historically-black-college-raises-280g-for-trump-inauguration-appearance.html
Posted by: lurkersusie | January 13, 2017 at 11:19 PM
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/13/u-s-coc-tom-donohue-begs-raul-castro-to-sign-trade-deal-before-trump-takes-office/comment-page-1/#comment-3457410
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | January 13, 2017 at 11:20 PM
Just finished watching 13 Hours.
Powerful.
Infuriating.
Posted by: RattlerGator | January 13, 2017 at 11:22 PM
Nytol!
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | January 13, 2017 at 11:26 PM
RG,
Infuriated was my strongest emotion leaving the theater after 13 Hours.
Posted by: Gentlejim | January 13, 2017 at 11:28 PM
OL:
Sorry can't mix politics and religion.
Mike Lee would have no power in Oz or in this case the Vatican.
Posted by: maryrose | January 13, 2017 at 11:33 PM
Sandy Daze:
Trump said today he wants people to think independently from him.
Posted by: maryrose | January 13, 2017 at 11:37 PM
Infuriated was my strongest emotion leaving the theater after 13 Hours.
What's all this about being in a theater for 13 hours? I'd be infuriated too.
Posted by: rosanne rosannadanna | January 13, 2017 at 11:40 PM
Henry, that AG inspector broom won't sweep near the Clinton Foundation or the meeting on the tarmac with Lynch and Slick I heard on a news report today. Especially the tarmac business was specifically mentioned.
Posted by: glasater | January 13, 2017 at 11:45 PM
R-G and Gentlejim. I was told by my brother on 9/12, what had happened at Benghazi.
If the public doesn't know by now, they are simply...LIV, Ignorant or unwilling to accept the obvious.
Rodham, and Rice should be run over by a bull dozer for what they did. Obama should have a worse fate. Joe Biden is a sick fuck.
Posted by: GUS | January 13, 2017 at 11:49 PM
Glasater, the CLINTON/LYNCH meet up is SICKENING.
A former A.G/GOVERNOR/PRESIDENT meeting with the U.S.A.G while his own WIFE and possibly himself are under scrutiny or SHOULD BE under scrutiny by the JUSTICE DEPT.
Anyone. ANY FUKWAD who can' smell this is a complete douche bag.
America is forever changed because of the STENCH or CLINTON and RODHAM. We've become IMMORAL.
Posted by: GUS | January 14, 2017 at 12:00 AM
Rosanna Rosannadanna,
I wasn't in the theater the whole 13 Hours. Some time was spent in line for popcorn and slurpees. ;)
Posted by: Gentlejim | January 14, 2017 at 12:42 AM
Rodham wasn't in her OFFICE the entire 13 hours, I think Slurpees = SCOTCHY SCOTCH SCOTCH and POPCORN = Scotchy Scotch Scotchy.
RODHAM allowed these men to die. She allowed "her friend" Christopher Stevens, our AMBASSADOR to die, Sean Smith, and former Seals Dougherty and Woods were savaged and blown to bits.
Then the UGLY BITCH lied in front of their coffins.
I hope Rodham burns in hell.
Posted by: GUS | January 14, 2017 at 12:51 AM
Oh, never mind.
Posted by: rosanne rosannadanna | January 14, 2017 at 12:51 AM
Legal Insurrection's Youtube channel has been restored.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 14, 2017 at 01:02 AM
Dave, that is awesome. Youtube is just another LIBTARD mouth piece.
So sad.
Posted by: GUS | January 14, 2017 at 01:12 AM
ROFLMMFAO
"Former Democratic presidential nominee Michael Dukakis said in an interview Friday that President-elect Donald Trump needs to get off Twitter and apologize to Hillary Clinton."
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/314309-dukakis-trump-needs-to-apologize-to-clinton
"“I mean he ought to be ashamed of himself for this kind of stuff, calling her a crook and that kind of nonsense. She's a good person, nothing she did involved breaches of national security,” Dukakis said in an interview on WABC radio with Rita Cosby. “She was investigated for God knows how long about Libya, and a Republican-dominated committee exonerated her.”
Posted by: Account Deleted | January 14, 2017 at 01:24 AM
Kellyanne Conway is fantastic. The steel reserve look in here eyes is priceless.
She isn't a LIBTARD phony.
God bless her.
Posted by: GUS | January 14, 2017 at 01:25 AM
WOW!!!! You mean Michael Dukakis is STILL ALIVE???
MISTER DUKAKIS is best known for not wanting his WIFE'S RAPIST MURDERER to get the DEATH PENALTY!!!
Posted by: GUS | January 14, 2017 at 01:28 AM