The Press Gets Shy In Chi-town

The story is appalling; the press treatment is to be expected, although it is evolving.

The NY Times has broken with their normal practice and decided to give their readers a dose of reality:

4 Questioned After Video Shows Racially Charged Beating in Chicago

By Mitch Smith and Niraj Chokshi

CHICAGO — The police here were questioning four people on Wednesday as video circulated online showing a white teenager tied up and beaten as a group of young African-Americans shouted antiwhite messages and insulted President-elect Donald J. Trump.

Well, OK. One might wonder how the races of the victim and alleged perpetrators could be suppressed in what has all the look of a hate crime, but this is the MSM in 2017. John Hinderaker has the initial AP coverage, headlined "Chicago police investigate video beating"; his linked article has been updated, as of 10:20 PM Jan 4, but here is the key graf, paragraph 5:

While police officials did not confirm the races of the suspects or victim, video from Chicago media outlets appeared to show someone off-camera using profanities about "white people" and President-elect Donald Trump.

The current AP story, 7:30 AM Jan 5, headlined "Charges Expected in Chicago Beating Broadcast on Facebook", amends that fifth graf and drops it to eighth:

While police officials did not confirm the races of the suspects or victim, video from Chicago media outlets appeared to show someone off-camera using profanities about "white people" and President-elect Donald Trump. The victim appeared to be white, while others shown in the video appeared to be black.

Whatever. Ed Driscoll, posting at Instapundit, has more on the network "coverage" Wednesday night.

And just to state the obvious - Heaven help us if four awful whites did this to a black person. We would be having a national conversation about nothing else and there would be Serious People calling for a delay to the Trump inauguration.

 

 

Comments

[DebinNC]

Yikes, Porch!

[Willy]

"I have tremendous respect for the Intel community."

Heh. It shows. It had better improve for your own longevity, narcissus.

[Buckeye]

Test. Tough love on the internet in Zaventem's Sheraton.

Could be worse Jack, you could be in the Beijing Sheraton.

[Porchlight]

Yeah, crazy, huh?

Following along on Reddit, the police scanners are apparently saying there are still reports of multiple shooters. I don't know what to believe.

[Jack is Back!]

Well, from my perch, it can't be a Mohammedan since CNN is spending too much time on it here in the Lounge.

[daddy]

Currently in Memphis. Arrived about 1 AM this morning, just before a tiny bit of snow started falling. We leave about 4 AM tonight for Paris, and due to conditions here potentially making us have to go through deicing and anti-icing procedures, they've sent out a bulletin asking us all to read up on it and to be prepared. It'll be the first night this season where we may have to deice/anti-ice in Memphis, and the whole place goes into total chaos each and every year until they get the bugs worked out all over again. I'm trying to think of a non-racist way to describe it, but I keep coming back to "a Chinese Fire drill."

Guilty as charged:)

[lyle]

I think someone linked or alluded to this earlier:

http://thehill.com/media/312925-maddow-asks-if-trump-will-send-her-to-a-camp

Come on out to EyeDeeHo, Ralph. We already have the camps that your party's patron saint put up in the 30s. Remember those? But don't be surprised if no one knows or gives a shit who you are. You might properly be repelled by all the friendliness from all us hayseed rubes, though...

[narciso]

yes, George takei, could inform her of that, she's Stanford's village idiot

[Marlene]

daddy,Fox is reporting that the FLL shooter lived in Anchorage for a couple of years and has a criminal record while living there.

[Buckeye]

We leave about 4 AM tonight for Paris, and due to conditions here potentially making us have to go through deicing and anti-icing procedures, they've sent out a bulletin asking us all to read up on it and to be prepared.

So much for nice and warm.

[DebinNC]

Latest re the 4 Chicago cretins - no bail, victim has ADD and schizophrenia, cretin Hill tried to extort money from parents, females went on rampage against neighbor who called LE- "Go get a gun", ...

[daddy]

BTW,

Our Aleutian Volcano has continued to explode, apparently sending up another blast to the 30,000 foot level today: Bogoslof: Color Code RED Alert Level WARNING

Listening to MSNBC and finding out that the shooter flew in from Canada and had checked his 9 Millimeter Handgun with Canadian Authorities prior to the flight. Apparently upon arrival in Florida he retrieved his gun, then loaded and started firing.

Thank goodness he didn't bring in any Kinder Eggs from Canada.

[Jack is Back!]

We have a Chinese fire drill under way currently in the Club Lounge of the Sheraton. Grandma plus daughter, her older kid and a young kid feeling their way around the wine and cheese and fruit. Choosing fruit and cappuccino. Go figure.

We have an eclectic crowd in the Lounge. A young english couple and she is my hero since she found where they store the wine. A Chinese family, sans the man. 4 heavily tatted Belgian guys, one of whom looks like he may have used a gun in anger once or twice and a young Vietnamese cleaning girl.

Who said we can't all get along.

[Marlene]

Deb,did I read somewhere that one of the female Chicago perps has two children? Good Lord!

[daddy]

Marlene,

My initial knee-jerk is that if he was living in Alaska it likely was as a result of being stationed up there in the Military. No facts to back that up whatever, but he's the correct age for such a thing. I imagine we'll find out in the next few hours.

[lyle]

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/01/06/obama-race-relations-are-getting-better-not-worse/

What a guy.

[lyle]

You know what, Zippy? You should give yourself another medal. You know, for healing all the racial wounds in our society. How did we ever deserve you?

[daddy]

MSNBC says from this Canadien Location he departed from, you clear US Customs at the Airport in Canada prior to the flight, so having cleared US Customs there you arrive in the US simply as a domestic flight which does not require having to go through US Customs upon arrival.

I'm watching MSNBC since Shep Smith is unlistenable.

[DebinNC]

Yes, the 24 yo has 2 kids iirc, Marlene. She also has an adult arrest record. The foolishly paternalistic, jail time-averse Chicago judges played a huge part in the ~800 killed and many more wounded in 2016 imo.

[Porchlight]

If this guy has a criminal conviction on his record wouldn't it have been illegal for him to possess/transport firearms even if others can do so legally?

[lyle]

Another hate crime. No, the airport shooting. This:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-cuts-ceo-tim-cooks-pay-citing-performance-2017-01-06

(I'm not in the least making light of the horrible shooting just letting my inner SJW out for a spin.)

[lyle]

Porch: yes.

[DebinNC]

BOzo seems compelled to immediately run to the nearest mic to defend himself/his record daily. What's he going to do after Jan. 20? If he keeps it up, I think his mental pathology will finally be impossible to hide or excuse.

[Captain Hate]

The 3:54 link was unusually judgemental by Poppin'; lacking the standard "in fairness" contortions.

[lyle]

Well, you won't hear BOzo recount this litany any time soon:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-rest-of-the-story-what-obama-wont-tell-you-about-his-legacy-2017-01-05

[Buckeye]

Porch

Same guys that developed the database for checking to see if gun runners have felonies are same guys who developed Obamacare website:)

[lyle]

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/01/schumer-talks-tough-on-obamacare-does-he-have-a-good-hand.php

But even if Schumer’s hand is only so-so, he might play it well enough to win. He knows that congressional Republicans are cautious and prone to blinking when the going gets tough. Often, rather than going to the mat, they take the easy way out.

The easy way out in the coming battle over replacing Obamacare care would be to “replace” that Act with something similar but with enough differences to make Republicans feel they can save a little bit of face. The alternative — gambling their position of power on outdebating Chuck Schumer, backed up by the mainstream media, in a blame game over a mini-health insurance crisis — isn’t likely to appeal to Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan.

"Often"? How about "every stinking time." And any rogue R that defies the establishment gets shivved by them.

[Marlene]

The shooter's flight was on Air Canada. Speaking of Canada,the northern border is wide open. We could take you on a Jeep ride and show you how easy it would be to cross over.

[Gentlejim]

Porch,
It depends on the conviction. If it's a felony or domestic related misdemeanor the answer is yes.

[Porchlight]

lyle, Buckeye, thanks for the info. Got to be prepared for the gun grabbers wanting to eliminate checked firearm transport.

By the way, looks like the white Hispanic narrative might not work out so well:

WeSearchrVerified account
‏@wesearchr
We believe we have identified #EstebanSantiago. We believe he posted on a forum for downloading Islamic jihadi videos in 2007. Stay tuned.

https://twitter.com/wesearchr/status/817479872612208640

[Beasts of England]

Good news, re: the Ft. Lauderdale shooting: the Atlanta Rhythm Section is unharmed. My buddies said they had made it through baggage claim about thirty minutes before the event and didn't even know about it until they heard from frantic friends and relatives.

An oddity: the airport avatar on FB is a pot leaf. I'm not making that up...

[Porchlight]

And it just gets weirder.

Air CanadaVerified account
‏@AirCanada
@CTVToronto We confirm that we have no record of such a passenger by that name, or checked guns, on any of our flights to Fort Lauderdale.

[Captain Hate]

CNN needs to clean up that grease spot on the floor.

http://rightwingnews.com/donald-trump/kellyanne-destroys-cnn-anchor-melting-russian-hacker-bogeyman-video/

[Neo]

The new "Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections" document is still a bit vague on how WikiLeaks got the DNC emails, but it does point the finger at RT, "Russia Today", who has met with Assange.

[Account Deleted]

Here is what candidate Trump said about his intentions on Day One in office:

"But none of these positive reforms can be accomplished without Obamacare repeal. On day one of the Trump Administration, we will ask Congress to immediately deliver a full repeal of Obamacare."

Suggests to me POTUS may be preparing a multiple front blitz attack against Schumer. A Cloward-Pivens strategy ya might say. How ironic.

There aren't enough Schumer's and Legosi's to go around with all these fights they have coming.

And if the HORs cave on Obamacare re the immediate delivery thing (Mark Levin said yesterday that Kelly Conway and company are "fine" with retaining parts of Ocare that work) that they will have to give him something in return.

What might that be?

[anonamom]

Twitter has found 2007 posts from shooter on a jihadi video downloading site

@wesearchr

[Porchlight]

Thanks Gentlejim.

[Cecil Turner]

Pretty good summary from heavy.com (not one of my usual reads): shooter was National Guardsman stationed in Ft Greely, discharged four months ago, history of mental illness, two misdemeanors in last year.

[Porchlight]

I posted that, too, anonamom, but it looks like the person in that photo may not be the perp, per one of the Twitter replies.

[lyle]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/01/06/climate-change-is-there-anything-it-cant-do//?singlepage=true

Walsh quotes some knob in the LAT:

From numerous studies, scientists know that climate destablization — from the burning of fossil fuels in places such as the U.S., China and India — is causing drought in the Middle East. In fact, for the last decade or so, Syria and the eastern Mediterranean have been in the midst of their worst drought in nine centuries. The effect has been to turn Syria’s once-productive soil into hard-baked clay...

Climate change as an underlying cause of social conflict is rarely front and center in the news, but it has been documented by a variety of experts....

In Aleppo, the blasted concrete walls are not just an outcome of conflict. They are also, unexpectedly, part of the cause...

The ruins of Aleppo graphically illustrate our species’ current misguided path. But properly understood, they are also an opportunity for clarity, redirection and hope.

Give up your concrete, infidels!

[anonamom]

On a lighter note, this nails the snow situation--having lived in all three places, I can verify this is 100% TRUE:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1hJ4HsXUAIZPM4.jpg

You are made of strong stuff, Midwesterners!

[Buckeye]

Yep, just your average white latino

[Marlene]

anonamom,ha! We've already had the roof at the cabin in Maine shoveled. My mother-in-law in far northern Maine has already had her roof shoveled twice! I guess we are having a "real" winter up north.

[DebinNC]

lol, anonamom

"Esteban Santiago" seems to be the Hispanic equivalent of "John Smith", i.e. lots of them around. That pic looks like the 5'3" version I saw mentioned.

[Janet the expert]

The video at Captain's 4:29 is hard to watch.
THe MFMers are mad as hatters that we all aren't believing everything they say.

They're mad we aren't outraged that we found out what was in Podesta's & the DNC's emails.

I don't care if they were hacked. I. don't. care.

[Janet the expert]

Boy...that Cuomo is a fool. I can hardly watch his whining.

[buccaneer morgan]

His aunt says he served in iraq, in 09_10, says he had issues from his time there, has a new born.

[DebinNC]

"NBC News reported that the shooter’s family is from Puerto Rico, and he served in National Guard and signed up in August 2016. “He signed up on that just a few months ago…He was not on any active duty,” NBC News reported."

ABC told by Army National Guard shooter was "honorably discharged 4 months ago."

Hmmm?

[DebinNC]

I don't care if they were hacked. I. don't. care.

It's ridiculous, since no one has suggested the emails were changed; just exposed to public view.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

As I said, the democrats would risk WW III because they were embarrassed.

Too bad. Go hide for a while and learn how to conduct yourselves ethically and professionally. You can spend your time reading up on basic cyber security.

[Old Lurker]

Marlene "My mother-in-law in far northern Maine has already had her roof shoveled twice! I guess we are having a "real" winter up north. "

See...I'd just remove all insulation from the ceiling/attic and turn up the thermostat.

:-)

[Captain Hate]

If Andrew Cuomo is anything like his idiot brother, than I kind of understand his slutty Kennedy ex wife whoring around on him, without condoning it.

[lurkersusie]

CBS News
CBS News – Verified account ‏@CBSNews

NEW: In Nov. 2016, FLL suspect walked into FBI office in Anchorage, claiming he was being forced to fight for ISIS, sources tell CBS News.

[daddy on iPad at The Happy Mexican]

Doing catch--up. Loved this line in that NYPost piece taking Obama apart for proclaiming how great he's been as President:

My name is Obamandias, President of Presidents; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!

A good exercise I suppose might be finishing Shelley's stanza.

Shelley:. Nothing beside remains. Round the decay of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare, the lone and level sands stretch far away.

Me: Nothing of Honor remains. Round the decay wrought by that colossal Wreck, shameless, selfish, and self-absorbed...

[DebinNC]

Oh, no. I hope for victims' families the FBI didn't drop the ball.

[Marlene]

Gov.Scott said he called Trump and Pence,didn't bother to talk to Obama. Ha.

[henry]

This conveniently takes the Chicago 4 off the radar... they can plead to jaywalking, have fines suspended, and be back at what ever they do by lunch tomorrow.

[DebinNC]

BOzo's going to Chicago in 4 days to deliver a Farewell Address and brag about himself and his reign of terror.

[Gentlejim]

Chris Cuomo... what an irritating asshat.

[daddy on iPad at The Happy Mexican]

Why did Russia hack Sheryl Atkisson's computer?

[Dave (in MA)]

Slow Joe gavels Sheila Jackson-Mars-Flag-Lee into silence

[Dave (in MA)]

I wonder if Abu Esteban al-Santiago had a Fast & Furious gun.

[Porchlight]

I think Rick Scott was also asked if Obama had contacted him and he said negative.

[Clarice Feldman]

CNN turns the shooter into another one of those "white Hispanics"http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/01/look-cnn-doctored-photo-ft-lauderdale-shooter-esteban-santiago/

[Account Deleted]

Here's one example of Trump's multi-front attack using the EmoCrat stronghold issues of Energy and Environment.

While the EmoCrats lay down their Maginot line to defend ObamaCare, the tanks will be rollin through their ground troops as Mr. Dellingpole tells us.

HOW WE KNOW TRUMP MEANS BUSINESS
January 5, 2017 | By James Delingpole

Donald Trump really is going to make America great again.

It wasn’t just a campaign slogan: Trump is for real—and one of the great pleasures in the coming years is going to be the joy of watching all those pundits who think he’s going to be a disaster being proved wrong again and again.

Nowhere will this be more evident than in his policies on energy and the environment.

I made a trip to Washington just before Christmas to check out the lie of the land. What I wanted to find out was just how serious Trump is about slaying the Green Blob which has caused so much misery and expense in the U.S. and across the world for the last thirty or forty years.

And after a series of private briefings with administration insiders and members of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, I came back heartened.

Here’s how one of them put it:

“Trump is going to send his tanks into the swamp from Day One. He knows there isn’t time to lose and he knows that every day that passes those tanks are going to get sucked deeper into the slime…” [by ‘the slime’ my anonymous informant meant, of course, the liberal/DC establishment which will do everything in its power to frustrate Trump] “…We’re going to go in fast and we’re going to go in hard. They won’t know what hit them.”

And let’s make something clear to all those ‘sensible’ conservatives—the centrist squishes who supported #NeverTrump and who will insist, even now, on telling us how uncomfortable they feel about the new regime, as though having a left-wing, establishment crook like Hillary would have been preferable—Trump is the ONLY Republican candidate who would have made this stuff happen.

Compare and contrast what would have happened if a “safe” GOP candidate like Jeb Bush was now on his way to the White House.

During the presidential campaigns, Jeb Bush was asked what his policy on the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) would be if he got elected: “I’ll hire the best people. And I’ll do the right thing,” he said.

In other words, Jeb Bush would have done precisely zilch to rein in one of the most destructive, overbearing and uncontrollable agencies within the U.S. government.

Trump is different because, unlike his mainstream GOP former rivals he feels absolutely no need to compromise or to green virtue-signal.

He has never made any bones about his conviction that “climate change” is a con and that the US economy has been held hostage by eco-loons and that blue-collar Americans have been denied jobs because of the environmental policies imposed on them by uptown pajama boys.

So what are his plans for energy and the environment?

Well in fact, it’s no secret. He set them out very clearly in the speech he gave on May 26, 2016 in North Dakota.

Here is my 100-day action plan:

We’re going to rescind all the job-destroying Obama executive actions including the Climate Action Plan and the Waters of the U.S. rule.
We’re going to save the coal industry and other industries threatened by Hillary Clinton’s extremist agenda.

I’m going to ask Trans Canada to renew its permit application for the Keystone Pipeline.

We’re going to lift moratoriums on energy production in federal areas

We’re going to revoke policies that impose unwarranted restrictions on new drilling technologies. These technologies create millions of jobs with a smaller footprint than ever before.

We’re going to cancel the Paris Climate Agreement and stop all payments of U.S. tax dollars to U.N. global warming programs.

Any regulation that is outdated, unnecessary, bad for workers, or contrary to the national interest will be scrapped. We will also eliminate duplication, provide regulatory certainty, and trust local officials and local residents.
Any future regulation will go through a simple test: is this regulation good for the American worker? If it doesn’t pass this test, the rule will not be approved.

What’s so brilliant about this—and why Trump’s critics underestimate him at their peril—is that it expresses more clearly than any leading conservative politician has ever done before that environmentalism is essentially an attack on jobs and growth.

At one point, it states it more explicitly still:

“Here’s what it comes down to. Wealth versus poverty.”

And:

“It’s a choice between sharing in this great energy wealth, or sharing in the poverty promised by Hillary Clinton.”

Trump gets it in a way that more “sophisticated” conservative leaders have failed to do for four decades: greenies are the enemies of prosperity; they are most especially the enemies of people like the non-liberal Americans who live outside the big cities.

One of my informants explained:

“Democrats have been waging a war on rural Americans for years. And the Bushes didn’t do a damn thing to help them. Trump actually promised he would do something and the voters got that. These are his people and he gets the problem.

If you dig up stuff, if you make stuff, if you grow stuff then for the first time since Reagan you have a president who has actually got your back.”

Bottom line: the Trump presidency will mark a turning point in global energy policy and in our attitude to the environment in general and policies like renewables in particular.

One thing we can confidently predict in the next few years is that the Greenies are in for a world of pain and disappointment. And it really couldn’t happen to a bunch of more deserving people.

[Porchlight]

It does look as if the wesearchr photo of the perp in Islamic scarf getup is legit.

Charles C. Johnson is a bit of a nut but he scooped the MSM bigtime.

[DebinNC]

Why did BOzo do and say nothing after the Chinese hacked the personal info of 21.5M Americans, then have a lavish WH State Dinner for the Chinese prez and wife 2 months later?

[lurkersusie]

Verified account ‏@johncardillo

CLARIFICATION: Broward SO took 2 guys with pellet guns in bags into custody for investigation. That added to "multiple shooter" confusion.

[Dave (in MA)]

Didn't Gateway make fake claims about doctored CNN photos in the past?

[Dave (in MA)]

Yeah, now I remember... it was the Umpqua shooter.

[buccaneer morgan]

Sometimesthey happen to be true, its a gonzo world out there.

[Dave (in MA)]

The scarf guy looks like a totally different person from the guy in the alleged doctored photo.

[Account Deleted]

How will The Clown be able to fight back popular opinion on these specific health care planks that Trump will propose Day One:

"Congress must act. Our elected representatives in the House and Senate must:

Completely repeal Obamacare. Our elected representatives must eliminate the individual mandate. No person should be required to buy insurance unless he or she wants to.

Modify existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines. As long as the plan purchased complies with state requirements, any vendor ought to be able to offer insurance in any state. By allowing full competition in this market, insurance costs will go down and consumer satisfaction will go up.

Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system. Businesses are allowed to take these deductions so why wouldn’t Congress allow individuals the same exemptions? As we allow the free market to provide insurance coverage opportunities to companies and individuals, we must also make sure that no one slips through the cracks simply because they cannot afford insurance. We must review basic options for Medicaid and work with states to ensure that those who want healthcare coverage can have it.

Allow individuals to use Health Savings Accounts (HSAs). Contributions into HSAs should be tax-free and should be allowed to accumulate. These accounts would become part of the estate of the individual and could be passed on to heirs without fear of any death penalty. These plans should be particularly attractive to young people who are healthy and can afford high-deductible insurance plans. These funds can be used by any member of a family without penalty. The flexibility and security provided by HSAs will be of great benefit to all who participate.
Require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure.

Block-grant Medicaid to the states. Nearly every state already offers benefits beyond what is required in the current Medicaid structure. The state governments know their people best and can manage the administration of Medicaid far better without federal overhead. States will have the incentives to seek out and eliminate fraud, waste and abuse to preserve our precious resources.

Remove barriers to entry into free markets for drug providers that offer safe, reliable and cheaper products. Congress will need the courage to step away from the special interests and do what is right for America. Though the pharmaceutical industry is in the private sector, drug companies provide a public service. Allowing consumers access to imported, safe and dependable drugs from overseas will bring more options to consumers. "

[Porchlight]

There are multiple photos going around.

[Porchlight]

Here is CNN using Wesearchr's photo of Islamic scarf guy:

https://twitter.com/TheeCurrentYear/status/817491329261441025

[Porchlight]

These photos all seem to me to be the same dude:

https://twitter.com/Tabertronic/status/817500533435072512

[DebinNC]

Wow, CNN eliminated the scarf details and the jihadi beard.

[Porchlight]

I think CNN just changed the photo to black and white which had the effect of downplaying beard and scarf. But they're still there.

[Captain Hate]

Having trashed Biden at every opportunity, he's an absolute brainiac and standup guy compared to Sheila Jackass Lee and her idiotic stunts.

[Clarice Feldman]

Charles Wagner
14 mins ·
Air Canada says that there was no passenger named "Esteban Santiago" on any of its flights into FLL, and no checked weapons. My theory is that someone planted a gun in the bathroom for the shooter to use, as in "The Godfather."

[DebinNC]

More details ... Santiago took a Delta flight from AK to FL with a stop in Minneapolis (no Canada). Somewhere along the way he got in an argument (no details). When he told the FBI in Nov. that Isis was forcing him to fight, they sent him to a psychiatric hospital. Sheesh.

[DebinNC]

But they're still there.

If I hadn't seen the original pic and knew the short beard was there, I wouldn't have noticed it in CNN's sanitized version.

[Account Deleted]

Prediction:

"As a Nation, we'll survive if the fires burning inside us burn brighter than those burning all around us."

MAGA-DT[redacted]S

[Stephanie despicable me]

Actually, the reporting I've seen is he walked into the AK FBI and said he was being forced to fight FOR ISIS by the US military.

That might make him a whistleblower as opposed to cray cray.

[Stephanie despicable me]

Puerto Rican Islamic Terrorist and Anime Fan.

Normal anime or that weird shit?

[Stephanie despicable me]

http://www.laweekly.com/music/50-years-ago-the-wah-wah-pedal-was-born-in-a-hollywood-hills-garage-7767475

Wah wah wah wa wah... Show me the way.

[Captain Hate]

Disney Nightly News Headline: Putin wanted Trump to be President.

Yep, they really learned a lot on November 8. Btw was that Federalist article on Chappaqua a parody?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Captain Hate,

Let's remember one of the great moments in Trump interviews:

"For example, George, you might wish you hadn't donated to the Clinton Foundation."

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Test.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Boy, it took 3 refreshes before my post at 6:48 showed up.

[anonamom]

The "science" behind emptying the shelves of milk and bread:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/marshallshepherd/2017/01/06/the-science-of-why-people-buy-bread-when-snow-is-in-the-forecast/#3f479d897029

[Dave (in MA)]

Wah wah wah wa wah... Show me the way.

The gadget Frampton famously used was a talk box.

[Stephanie despicable me]

Whatever. I don't play an instrument except my voice and it is shot.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2017/01/06/sen-bill-nelson-identifies-suspected-fll-gunman/

I have a LOT of questions about this incident. AM waiting to see what new stuff surfaces. Everybody and his brother are doing web searches and digging stuff up.

[Stephanie despicable me]

ABC says he flew from AK to MN? then to Ft Lauderdale.

Now they are hyperventilating over guns being allowed in checked luggage with gasp.... ammo.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Stephanie,

We have had how many people get a gun out of checked luggage and shoot people?

One.

[Stephanie despicable me]

Exactly.

The reports of Canada to FL appear to be incorrect as far as his travel logistics.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Now I see it was a Delta flight which went through the Somali enclave of Minneapolis.

(I added the Somali part.)

[lyle]

Your question @ 6:38 re parody proves my point, CH: parody is dead. Long live parody!

[Captain Hate]

Isn't Jeh Johnson's DHS responsible for make sure firearms aren't brought on commercial flights? And he wants them to oversee elections? Oh hell to the naw.