NOW We Learn This?

Matt Drudge is headlining a Washington Examiner story by Paul Bedard that should have been part of the roll-out of Trump's Executive Order on immigration:

Report: 72 convicted of terrorism from 'Trump 7' mostly Muslim countries

Since 9/11, 72 individuals from the seven mostly Muslim countries covered by President Trump's "extreme vetting" executive order have been convicted of terrorism, bolstering the administration's immigration ban.

According to a report out Saturday, at least 17 claimed to be refugees from those nations, three came in as "students," and 25 eventually became U.S. citizens.

The Center for Immigration Studies calculated the numbers of convicted terrorists from the Trump Seven:

— Somalia: 20

— Yemen: 19

— Iraq: 19

— Syria: 7

— Iran: 4

— Libya: 2

Clicking through to the report from CIS and their Excel spreadsheet, we see that "convicted of terrorism" is meant as an assessment, or informed conclusion - e.g., some of the people were convicted of "18/1028 (fraud/theft of identity documents)" or "false statements" and received probation or time served. Others had long sentences for material support to terrorist organizations, which is more clearly terrorism.

Also, die-hard critics of the Trump order will note that there are a lot of Somalis and al-Shabaab supporters, but no ISIS. (I'm trying to think like Rachel Maddow here, so please feel my pain.)

Well. Why we are reading this now and not weeks ago is a puzzle; it should have been part of the roll-out package. That might have avoided statement like this (back to the Wash Ex):

In dismissing the Trump executive order, San Francisco's Ninth Circuit court of appeals said, "The government has pointed to no evidence...that any alien from any of the countries named in the order has perpetrated a terrorist attack in the United States."

Of course, taken literally this report does not refute this claim - at a quick read-through, none of these people were convicted of actual attacks. Would supporting terror groups or plotting attacks have impressed these judges, or were they looking for an actual body count? Who knows?

Comments

[Threadkiller]

Right on, CH.

[Old Lurker]

Bedrock and Clay...oh NO!

Anybody ever watch how quickly walls are built along interstates?

[buccanee r morgan]

Morrell doing the snoopy dance at the lowly institute.

[buccanee r morgan]

Civility we ought to try that:
https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/831483401467265024

[Captain Hate]

Here's a state for all the nervous nellies:

https://mobile.twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/831485490394181632

[Buckeye]

I understand that Flynn didn't tell Pence all the details of his phone calls. It looks like Trump has appointed Pence as the COO and giving him a broad portfolio especially in WH operations including the NSC.

I think Jack hits the nail on the head.

A good Hun supports his closest direct reports first and foremost.

No other way to engender real loyalty.

[RattlerGator]

I'm beginning to think these CIA idiots have walked into a magnificent trap . . . and General Flynn was the bait. I have to move and groove a bit today but that's of no consequence, we'll have days and weeks to speculate about this. However, just look at the atmospherics surrounding yesterday. It looks like planned action to me.

Later, Gators.

[narciso]

Lowy institute, recall in timker tailor all those operations being compromised to make room for Hayden, the Philby manque.

[Captain Hate]

https://mobile.twitter.com/hale_razor/status/831521950295941121

[narciso]

Why they did what they were appointed to do? Btw public citizen the outfit that has been after trump like you loved millions with top man painter, is headed by lerner mentor larry noble.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Sandy - here is another article supporting Harward as one of the top contenders for Flynn's job

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/02/14/wapo-mattis-ally-rises-to-nat-sec-shortlist-after-flynn-resignation/

[Captain Hate]

Civility we ought to try that

Every time Pinch tries to be edgy he does the impossible and steps on his tiny johnson. When's the next downsizing?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

You know, I am suffering from information overload and brain fatigue from trying to figure out what in the heck is going on.

I am going to take a break for a few hours and do some serious housecleaning. I think it will be good for my mental health.

Back this afternoon, unless events dictate otherwise.

[narciso]

I see much like the situation of that top cop in miami, some years back.

[narciso]

If they have to sell any more floors it's going to look like the 3td transformers film.

[henry]

falling peso is not making Slim richer

[narciso]

Well slim made a mint with the bailout rubin provided for him.

[Captain Hate]

When does Slim cut off his loss leader?

[joan]

Leave it to the Democratic cesspool, always delighted to foment and continue trouble.

Fox News: "Senate homeland security committee Chairman Ron Johnson, R-Wis., told Fox News that “somebody in the nebulous intelligence community” would have had access to the Flynn discussions.
“Who tapped the phones, who was listening to it, who leaked it? I think those are legitimate questions to ask,” he told Fox News on Tuesday. “Leaks of this nature are incredibly damaging to America … and we need to look into it.

"House Democrats, meanwhile, want to know more about the nature of Flynn’s contact with Russia.

"… Flynn's departure does not end questions over his contacts with the Russians, which have been alleged to have begun well before December 29,” Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, said in a statement. “These alleged contacts and any others the Trump campaign may have had with the Kremlin are the subject of the House Intelligence Committee's ongoing investigation. Moreover, the Trump administration has yet to be forthcoming about who was aware of Flynn's conversations with the ambassador and whether he was acting on the instructions of the president or any other officials, or with their knowledge."

Yes, the delighted Democratic cesspool schemes and dreams. I wouldn't be surprised to hear the leakers are reporting to Dems as well as the media.

[Captain Hate]

That scum, Adam Schiff from Clownifornicate, is up to his pencil neck in this.

[Rocco]

I think Sessions should start an investigation into Crooked Hillary immediately. Let's Rock!

[joan]

I keep reading comments relating to President Trump and Flynn: "The question is what did the president know? and When did he know it?"

Finally someone said: Here's a question for you, "Why don't you go f*ck yourself?"

Made me chuckle. :) Hope Trump supporters all feel the same way. I'm tired of people wilting.

[dublindave]

What...did.....the.... President...know...when...did...he...know...it?

[narciso]

He replaced James Rogan, one of those who didn't waiver.

[narciso]

I find that an ironic turn of phrase Joan what we know now about felt, his botched surveillance operations of the weather underground is what enabled Ayers to be 'free as a bird, guilty as hell'

[Marlene]

Good Morning! I read an interesting story in the Bangor paper this morning. For about three hours yesterday,during the massive snowstorm in Maine and the Oroville dam emergency,the National Weather Service had a failure of primary and back-up systems. They're were unable to disseminate any information between 1:15pm and 4pm eastern time. The dam situation is more of an emergency than snow in Maine in February and NOAA and other entities were giving updates. It is interesting that with the discussion about infrastructure and upgrades in the various agencies,this is a good example of where did the money go?!? The NWS director told a media panel in September that it will take another year to finish the upgrades of primary and back-up systems to 99.9% reliability.

[narciso]

Once you dial down the ambient noise:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-14/the-political-assassination-of-michael-flynn

[Captain Hate]

Speaking of Ayers, here are some more rocket surgeons:

http://www.weaselzippers.us/324809-taliban-commander-killed-when-his-own-bomb-accidentally-detonates/#disqus_thread

[joan]

Yes, Narciso, that 'what did he know .....' cwap they pull out, orgasming over thoughts of Watergate, always makes me see red.

Jerks.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

OK, I am back because I remembered something. Unfortunately, my link isn't with a major outlet (probably scrubbed) but I knew I remembered this correctly.

What were William Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn, and Jodie Evens (Code Pink) doing in Gaza and then Cairo back during the Cairo demonstrations prior to Mubarak's fall?

http://www.wnd.com/2010/01/120711/

If they were aligned then with the Muslim Brotherhood, it seems to me a lot more people on the far left, many of whom are in government, would also be aligned with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Now I am heading off to clean bathrooms.

[Clarice Feldman]

The Flynn tap reminds me of the Petraeus tap--in both cases it is unclear why the agency persued this--In Petraeus' case once they knew the claim by the floozy didn't shoe his emails had been hacked that should have ended it; in Flynn's case telling the Russians they'd discuss the stupid sanctions later surely doesn't count as a discussion on sanctions. whiff of Plamey deep state war to me,

[joan]

Narciso's Bloomberg 11:11: This is what is bothering most of us in the pit of our stomachs:

"In the end, it was Trump's decision to cut Flynn loose. In doing this he caved in to his political and bureaucratic opposition. Nunes told me Monday night that this will not end well. "First it's Flynn, next it will be Kellyanne Conway, then it will be Steve Bannon, then it will be Reince Priebus," he said. Put another way, Flynn is only the appetizer. Trump is the entree."

[pagar, a bacon,ham and pork roast supporter]

MM@11:18

" more people on the far left, many of whom are in government, would also be aligned with the Muslim Brotherhood." IMO, if they were aligned with the Obama regime you can bet they were aligned with the Muslim Brotherhood.

[narciso]

Jeh was likely the leaker and he was rewarded with dhs for it, where he slowly froze out Haney from his investigation of lanbligh, the national targeting center was where the al harbi letter came from.

[henry]

yep, now Rick Wilson (team McMuffin) blames it on Reince v Bannon. An IRS tax audit including pizza check on his digital storage is in order. (via Twitter).

[lurkersusie]

Bloomberg‏ @business

The political assassination of General Michael Flynn: @EliLake has unanswered questions https://t.co/KJ6BxwV1mX

Last paragraph in article

In the end, it was Trump's decision to cut Flynn loose. In doing this he caved in to his political and bureaucratic opposition. Nunes told me Monday night that this will not end well. "First it's Flynn, next it will be Kellyanne Conway, then it will be Steve Bannon, then it will be Reince Priebus," he said. Put another way, Flynn is only the appetizer. Trump is the entree.

[joan]

Yeah, Clarice, CH, Narciso, MM, et al., we're sitting here watching this vicious dark group (including the media, the Dems) work their vile mischief -- and we've seen it all before and know the seemingly inescapable quicksand the new president and his administration are in and we're practically helpless to stop it. Oh, I do wish at least one of the major networks had a patriotic decent man in charge.

In thinking back, only one time (since we've been back in the States) has good triumphed -- and that was when Dan Rather was proven to be a liar and fraud. The internet did that. And obama let part of that power slip out of our hands.

We do need to pray for Trump.

[Sandy --First 100-- Daze]

Declaring that the brainslugs have indeed eaten completely through:

Ralph Peters: Trump Should 'Swallow His Pride,' Pick Sen. Graham to Replace Flynn

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/14/peters-trump-should-pick-lindsey-graham-replace-flynn

[lurkersusie]

Never ever trumper Ralph Peters

[buccanee r morgan]

Heh, sandy that is the captain Terrell stage, Richard Allen who this affair somewhat symbolizes was all panicked last August. Because he believed the polls.

[Clarice Feldman]

Good grief,Sandy!

[TEH WATCHER]

Is Trump on board with Bannon's cosmology..you know...ENDTIMES?

Just curious...it is a bit of concern.

[joan]

Ha! Peters thinks Lindsay Graham wouldn't be open to blackmail? Give us a break. Wouldn't be surprised to have a boyfriend step out of the shadows, though that should make the media applaud him.

[Sandy --First 100-- Daze]

New Thread !

[henry]

courtesy our Chitown lurking unit, Bill Kristol declares allegiance to the deep state. Here's to his reincarnation as a urinal mint.

[Truthbetold5]

Clarice

Save it. We all know you lied about the Plame cased.

[art in newport]

That's funny .. 'Trump should swallow his pride ', and then swallow poison (hire Graham). Talk about things that could never happen..!

The left finally wins a skirmish .. my money is still on Trump.

[pagar, a bacon,ham and pork roast supporter]

I can't imagine that anyone would hire Graham for any government position past a federal school crossing guard.

[anonamom]

RG, this morning shortly after nine:

I'm beginning to think these CIA idiots have walked into a magnificent trap . . . and General Flynn was the bait. I have to move and groove a bit today but that's of no consequence, we'll have days and weeks to speculate about this. However, just look at the atmospherics surrounding yesterday. It looks like planned action to me.

Later, Gators.

I was thinking exactly the same, about the same time---but thought I might be thought to getting into a cult-like state of mind if I posted that.

Glad to see I'm in good company!

[JimNorCal]

Events continue to unfold on all the other fronts.
Meanwhile, we continue to have two big advantages.
1) our guys are driving
2) reality, by which I mean, who believes external events will demonstrate Islam becoming peaceful, global warming killing people, human nature changing such that socialism starts to function and so on

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

James D sez "Why on Earth does anyone here engage at all with the troll trash?

Agree. We know they would denounce us all in a second and help dispose of the bodies.
Femall!

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler are the Democrats' Fatty Arbuckles. It doesn't matter how much weight they may lose, they remain approval seeking, lying bootlickers who leave grease skids wherever they go.

[Captain Hate]

Here you go, Frau:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=trYyeH0DeHA