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April 12, 2017

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Truthbetold5

Crews abuse bumping passengers from flights when the reason is not work related all the time. UAL knows this and lets it continue.

TAX ALL THE BASTARDS

TAX DAY MARCH-----'-'

TRUMP...RELEASE THE DOGS OF WAR

TAX ALL THE BASTARDS

Trumpenfuhrer is not above teh law.

He's not even above water..lol.

Old Lurker

Harumph, Jimmy and Barbara...you guys are no fun!

I paid my taxes today and nothing you can say is going to put me in a good mood!

But Jimmy, your definition of fair is too broad and subject to abuse. You are OK with overbooking (note we are all saying overbooking but this was not that) and bumping if you and we all get lower ticket prices because of that policy. Did I get lower ticket prices, or did the CEO get another ten mill in compensation...etc?

My Electric Company could for sure offer me a lower price per KWH if they were freed from having to build capacity for peak demand as opposed to just randomly selecting blocks to go dark when some lower level of demand is reached.

Yes, I know you know all that.

To put Iggy's Hayek hat on, given the vagaries of human nature and the ease of abusing one group or another or the desire to get by with performing poorly, the requirement of pay what the market at that gate at that time sets as the value of getting some marginal seats empty is the only way to make it work. Anything less than that is going to arbitrarily reward some and penalize others, and it will insulate the airline from bad management (not foreseeing the need to move a crew), or from the requirement to gain sales by pleasing the market.

:-)

TAX ALL THE BASTARDS

Old Lurker doesn't like monopolies..concurrence?

maryrose

I agree with Porch, Barbara and Jimmyk.

Old Lurker

And Porch...because he threw his hissy fit and that got so much press...today Delta announced a new policies giving its gate staff the ability to pay up to $10,000 to secure enough seats to cure an overbooking, right there at the gate, right now.

That right there is the American Way: the guy on the front line is given the authority and the resource to solve a problem...and nobody gets bumped without being paid nicely enough that he feels he was treated fairly.

Win, win for Delta.

Old Lurker

Of course you do, Maryrose. :-)

The Infamous Ignatz

I got a 404 on your link TC.

Truthbetold5

maryrose

Do you think United should have to follow the law?

Porchlight

Thanks Cap'n and jimmyk. UAL is their stock symbol but they dropped the Airlines part of their name awhile back.

Texas Liberty Gal

Howie says its the press who wants Bannon out, not Trump. I agree!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/14/bannon-bashing-why-press-is-targeting-trump-aide-as-barely-hanging-on.html

rse

OL-years ago when I was interviewing with one of the senior partners of the big firm I ended up working for he told a story about being a Harvard law student interested in coming south in the mid-50s. Everyone supposedly agreed that there would be a single "great southern city" and the betting money was b'ham would edge out atlanta because it had industry.

Then the bull conners video destroyed the b'ham brand in that race. Atlanta never forgot that lesson, which is why lunch counters were integrated here by fiat by the business community. Bad publicity is bad for business.

Delta recognizes that no one with a choice on airlines having seen that footage wants to book united. They simply want to be the choice on those lucrative overseas flights and have people believe they will be treated right.

UAL never got over its unions' insistence before forced concessions and the bankruptcy that concessions meant "the pilots are paying to come to work." I still remember a pilot friend of hubby's showing up at our house militantly parroting that line. I reminded him when the Eastern pilots were all better paid than delta and what happened to them.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

TLG,

I agree, too.

Trump will keep Bannon as long as he's useful and as long as Bannon wants to stay. Few aides hang on through all 4 years. Those that do, however, are usually the super loyal ones.

The press is using their usual tricks to scare a GOP president and cause him to fire an aide or force the aideto resign.

It isn't going to work with Bannon.

jimmyk

It's a competitive business, OL. At the risk of sounding Panglossian, if consumers valued the absolute certainty of getting on their flight highly enough, airlines would provide that, but as a consequence they would end up usually going out with empty seats, which would translate into higher fares.

I do agree that in this situation, where a passenger is being involuntarily bumped for a crew member, the airline would be smart to pay for volunteers, and everyone will be happy. But I don't run an airline, so it's easy for me to say. This may well be a one-in-a-million situation, and some low-level people made a stupid decision. Doesn't excuse the passenger's behavior in my opinion.

Truthbetold5

jimmyk

Its not one-in-a-million. If you knew what the culture at United was you would realize that this is the tip of the iceberg.

The Infamous Ignatz

Theodore Dalrymple destroys some hack's book an David Cameron and Brexit.
Takes a few shots at the oleaginous Bill Knapp while he's at it.

Account Deleted

"Whether or not UA (why do we put the L on the end of the acronym?

Stock symbol: UAL United Airline Holdings..so it should be UAH no?

Or UHL for United Hair Line or is hairline one word?

What a can of worms you've opened. ;)

Fascism is cool.

A second book, which would have to be ghost-written would have to have some circulation, we're it worthy.

Brexit/Trump: two phenoms that have a weird future.

Don't read much into it.

Account Deleted

"I thought it a very beneficial broadening of my cultural experiences."

Buh buh bbbbig Buckeye!

Them catlick and jewish goyles at ND were a beneficial broadening of the cultural bent I possess today.

You are the master of understatement, sir. ;)

Thomas Collins

Perhaps it doesn't work with Typepad, Ignatz. It's still "alive", as far as I can see. Let me try again.

https://www.inc.com/cynthia-than/the-controversial-united-airlines-flight-was-not-overbooked-and-why-that-matters.html

Fascism is cool.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/cnn-contributor-trump-white-house-staff-terrified-because-they-dont-know-how-deep-russia-ties-go/

No one on alt/right is worried. That would take some awareness.

Account Deleted

Ultimately, why was the not-so-good doctor selected for the bungled bump in the first place?

Porchlight

I think the symbol's been UAL for a long time and the name change to Holdings was fairly recent, KK.

TC, I imagine you're right about the outcome.

I see from the memeorandum sidebar that the MSM is dragging the depths once more with a DeVos story and an Alex Jones story. Must have been a good week for Trump.

Account Deleted

Because socialism works.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/04/13/venezuela-socialist-mob-assaults-archbishop-caracas-holy-thursday/

Account Deleted

And its cuddly.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/04/14/wellesley-college-students-hostility-warranted-people-say-anything-offensive/

Francophilist for Trump

Linking to Breibarts for accuracy...ROFLMAO

HAve you acquaintance with the concept of shsme?

Account Deleted

"I think the symbol's been UAL for a long time and the name change to Holdings was fairly recent, KK."

That's correcto. Just matching symbol to formal name of entity, that's all.

IIRC the entity name changed when they snagged Continental, bastardized the Conti'l logo and renamed themselves United Continental Holdings in 2010.

Of course, the livery logo just says "United" which looks weird to me. Anyways, call me a logo graphics purist. And when my dyslexic condition kicks in it reads "Untied". But I digress.

Could be wrong about the timeline.

Porchlight

Did anyone link the bomb video yet?

Here is the bomb video

Account Deleted

"The items on the list come from a longer compilation developed in 1988 by Peggy McIntosh, a women's-studies scholar at Wellesley."

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/04/12/student-calls-out-university-dorms-white-privilege-checklist-board

That sotty tramp has been getting paid for "teaching" and "speaking" on the topic for over 40 years. Same set of notes. Same dreck. Same impact: GNAW-DAH!

Rinse and repeat cycle:

Trigger deep feelings of guilt and helplessness among students of European descent attending the tonier colleges back east.

Soak them for "fees" to attend a "training" on how to fight white privilege in oneself and on campus ("sliding scale of course" but usually not less than $100 bucks a head for an afternoon).

End the session with a "circle" where everybody joins hands, tears spill, and the "facilitator" (certified by some cash guzzling non-profit like the National Coalition Building Institute) "bravely" tells the snowflakes--- something like this: "I salute your courage and integrity for being here, for 'holding the space' with others, and for accepting that we may not see the end of white privilege in our lifetimes. (But if you buy my book we'll really be giving it a go, okay Deena?)

It's a racket subsidized by academia. I know. I got thrown out for trying to blow it up. (Best cause I ever fought for.)

narciso

Raw story is run by the nazgul voldemort


http://www.eluniversal.com/noticias/carac
as/presuntos-colectivos-irrumpieron-santa-teresa-tras-misa-solemne_648155

Captain Hate

An inspired Horde lurker:

I always read but never comment...

But wanted to say I was inspired by Ace so I bought www.thenationallaughingstock.com and redirected it to the WaPo.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I'll change the DNS settings so that you can just swap out the wapo part and the url will redirect to specific stories....

I hate aborting babies before I can kill them.

Trump loves babies, even if he has to vaporize them.

Account Deleted

Lighting LibFash asses on fire this holiday weekend:


http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-calls-upon-office-congressional-ethics-investigate-whether-rep-schiff-rep-speier-disclosed-classified-information/:

Captain Hate

Adding links that work shouldn't be as hard as some of you are experiencing.

Account Deleted

"when you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffaaaaaa...."

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/14/afghans-thought-the-end-of-the-world-had-come-after-moab-strike/#ixzz4eFkRtwgb

narciso

It doesn't attach the http tag.

I hate aborting babies before I can kill them.

Hee hee. Kevlar likes to strain out gnats while Swallowing flounders without a hitch.

What is your swallowing diameter, just for the marketing info.

Captain Hate

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-calls-upon-office-congressional-ethics-investigate-whether-rep-schiff-rep-speier-disclosed-classified-information/

Account Deleted

I had a : at the end of mine for some reason.

Mea [redacted] culpa, CH. ;)

narciso

A cornucopia of category error

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/20/are-liberals-on-the-wrong-side-of-history?mbid=social_twitter

Miss Marple the Deplorable

KevlarKid,

Shame we couldn't have written "Allah is displeased with you" in the sky.

However, that is a good story.

Account Deleted

Need cash?

http://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/delta/delta-overbooking-flights-compensation?xid=NL_JustIn041417

I hate aborting babies before I can kill them.

Heh. Yeah..giggle

Nunes has nothing to worry about with Schiff to deflect to.

Fresno will catch the fascist with the Sheriff's of County. As long as he doesn't travel outside Fresno....no problema, senor

Jack is Back! (On his iPad)

UAL isn't even #1. That is reserved for Southwest but then they carry more domestic pax than any other airline. We fly SW a lot and never got bumped.

http://www.cntraveler.com/story/the-10-worst-airlines-for-overbooking?mbid=nl_041417_Daily&CNDID=41726203&spMailingID=10826644&spUserID=MTMzNDg1NTYyMTU4S0&spJobID=1141141388&spReportId=MTE0MTE0MTM4OAS2

Aborting babies before you kill them

Southwest? It figgers for the water-logged Floridian.

Out here they stink like carrion.

Southwest loves their employees..hate their customers

narciso

What could possibly go wrong


http://linkis.com/www.express.co.uk/ne/hSifS

narciso

The link was about the nearly 20,000 Islamic militants in france:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4412548/Underwhelming-moody-trailer-Jedi.html

Do you agree?

henry

The star wars trailer was stupid.

Nuns ok to raoe.

Yeah. Like the ghost of Pat Tillman it reminds me of everything connected with your ideology, narco. I've asked before and no reply....

We're you in Central America in the late 70s to mid Eighties?

No reply is the safe bet asshole.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Boo on the trailer. Looked depressing to me.

Nuns ok to raoe.

Oh wait! I thought I could hurt your feelings. My misstep and overestimation.

Free James D!

Reading Phil Jackson's bizarre comments today, and seeing the disaster he's made of a Knicks team that I thought couldn't get worse or more embarrassing, I have to wonder how he won championships even with Michael Jordan in Chicago...

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Free James D!

It was Chicago. They probably threatened people to get the championships.

Jerry West has the key to next dynasty

Why, with his fabled no-offensive re-bounds strategy, that's how.

Main talent is controlling egos other than his own.

Free James D!

Well, if that was his talent, he's clearly lost it over the years.

narciso

They could have chopped the first minute out.

Free James D!

Speaking of the Knicks, from ESPN:

Kristaps Porzingis skipped exit meetings with New York Knicks management due to frustration over what he perceives as the dysfunction and drama surrounding the organization, team sources told ESPN.com.

Can't really blame him. They have to be the worst-run franchise in the country, in any sport.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Saw on Twitter that the President will speak at the NRA convention on April 28.

Jerry West has the key to next dynasty

No wish to make a fool of you jamesD but you're talking to the wrong person if you wish for inaccurate and poorly phrased rhetoric.

Threadkiller

The manner in which he was ejected is entirely his fault.

It is no different from being arrested. You can do it the easy way or the hard way. But if you do it the hard way, in most cases what happens to you is your problem.

What if he was retarded?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

New York skyline, Easter, 1956:

Younger people have no memory of the country we used to be.

The Infamous Ignatz

ChaCo with a story on media idiocy re the MOAB.
Guy in comments relates this story. Even if apocryphal it's worth quoting;

Donald Sensing • 2 hours ago

Could never make this up: In the initial phases of the invasion of Iraq, an Abrams tank commander told a reporter that he liked to shoot the sabot round down the middle of a village's main street because it was so dense and fast that it created a vacuum as it passed that sucked all the Iraqi soldiers out of the side streets into the main street, where the tank commander machine gunned them. And the reporter believed it and had it printed.


Lumpy Gravy

Maybe Dubya isn't the original Idiot Bastard Son

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a54512/is-trump-in-charge/

narciso

We are in potter town, miss marple.

Lumpy Gravy

Idiocy to ChaCo is Idiocracy to the People.

Lumpy Gravy

Lol..

Y'all are Potter idjit. The dissolution of the Building and Loan is your goal Fer fucks duck sake.

The Infamous Ignatz

How free market economics would have prevented United from shooting itself in the foot head.
Like many things, Julian Simon presented the perfect solution fifty years ago.

Lumpy Gravy

"WHOOOOOOSSSSSSHHHH"

Went the salient thought through one narciso ear through the other.

Teflon Contra..

Lumpy Gravy

And the stalwart Iggy presents his flinty forehead for well deserved abuse.

What a maroon...lol.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/13/epa-doj-lawsuit-vs-oil-company-shines-light-on-trump-executive-order.html

Miss Marple the Deplorable

narcio,

Good analogy.

Never, when I was a kid, would I have thought that skyline picture would be antiquated.

I know we cannot go back in time, but I sure wish more people knew how much better life was in 1956. (That was the year my baby brother was born and my 3rd grade class was taken downtown to see "The Ten Commandments" at the Circle Theater.)

Threadkiller

DEPARTMENT POLICY
A.When a Department member engages a member of the public, the member will do so in such a manner which affords that person the respect and dignity to which all persons are entitled. The use of excessive force or unwarranted physical force or unprofessional conduct by a Department member will not be tolerated under any circumstances, and all members will strictly adhere to the provisions of the Department directive entitled "Prohibition Regarding Racial Profiling and Other Bias Based Policing."
B.Department members will use an amount of force reasonably necessary based on the totality of the circumstances to perform a lawful task, effect an arrest, overcome resistance, control a subject, or protect themselves or others from injury.
C.As set forth by the United States Supreme Court in Graham v. Connor, 490 U.S. 386 (1989), the central inquiry in every use of force is whether the amount of force used by the officer was objectively reasonable in light of the particular circumstances faced by the officer.
1.Reasonableness is not capable of precise definition or mechanical application. Circumstances that may govern the reasonableness of using a particular force option include, but are not limited to:
a.the severity of the crime at issue,
b.whether the subject poses an immediate threat to the safety of officers or others, c.whether the subject is actively resisting arrest or attempting to evade arrest by flight.
2.The reasonableness of a particular use of force will be judged under the totality of the circumstances viewed from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene.
D.The Department has adopted a Use of Force Model in order to provide members guidance on the reasonableness of a particular response option.

http://useofforceproject.org/s/Chicago-1-rq4w.pdf

The Infamous Ignatz

I'm sorry my attempts to encourage rational discourse seem to have driven you even further around the bend Ben.
You really ought to consider some rest or something. You seem to be doing that rapid cycling thing.

The Infamous Ignatz

Dad intentionally outrages safety Nazis by photoshopping his little girl in dangerous situations.

narciso

Well it was a short drive for him. Years lAter I found out that many of the parents of my schoolmates had been at the bay of pigs, had flown in the Congo, fought in Vietnam mostly every stretch of swamp on every continent except out front uard.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4413342/In-deadly-game-dare-Kim-Jong-suicide.html

I think this is hysterical fear-mongering, but we need to know what people are reading.

Texas Liberty Gal

I love your IG link IG...😄

Now retired.

Free James D, check out Tex Winter, basically the inventor of the triangle offense, and Phil Jackson's assistant for many years.

The Infamous Ignatz

You lost me TLG. What's an IG link?

narciso

Hearing the lamentations, but she got over Russell brand a real jackalope, so.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2017/04/14/celeb-freak-out-katy-perry-still-suffering-trauma-scary-trump

Account Deleted

My favorite sister stopped drinking today. She is 59. Not a problem drinker but she didn't want to use it to relax anymore. That makes 5 out of six siblings who are walking the Good Red Road. Looks like Gran (mom) will see her prayers realized afterall. Good Friday. Wow.

Great again, I'm great again, Maude.

Well, Wiki says Tex learned the t. o. from Sam Berry, his basketball coach at USC. Nonetheless, he made it great.

narciso

It seems the next iteration of Fargo is more faithful to the film, except for the two ewan mcgregors.

Account Deleted

Katy Perry's a serpentine goddess, no? At least what it says on YouTube. ;)

Speakin of wholesome, whatever became of Marilyn Chambers-- the Ivory Snow Girl after her fall from the graces of Madison Avenue harlotry?

Account Deleted

Marshawn Lynch a Raider? Whaaaaaa?????

Fat Lady is takin' the stage....

narciso

They are replaying the first bloc of American son, tomorrow on a &e.

Texas Liberty Gal

I love Trump but I'm totally confused and not happy about Trump's reversal on this...what am I missing????

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-export-import-bank-reversal-leaves-conservatives-dumbfounded/article/2620329?custom_click=rss

Texas Liberty Gal

IG - Instagram!!!

narciso

I think the notion is to redirect toward smaller enterprises, which seems foolhardy

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/14/cia-director-brands-wikileaks-a-hostile-intelligence-service

So what does that make al vhardian.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Texas Liberty Gal,

He was made aware that the Ex-Im also helps small business.

I imagine what will be done is that big corporations will be stopped from using it.
It also may be a bargaining chip.

Ask yourself this: Did you even care about this before he ran for president? I sure didn't. I didn't even know what it did.

Jack knows about it, having worked with it during his career.


narciso

Well we've known if for some time:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/14/clinton-communications-director-on-obama-he-looked-kind-of-like-a-jackass/

DrJ

Ask yourself this: Did you even care about this (ExIm) before he ran for president?

Yes. It is a pet issue of Veronique de Rugy, who posts regularly on NRO. She has railed against ExIm for a few years now.

But NRO is out. So is the WSJ. They still have a lot that is worth reading.

Not picking on you MM -- really -- I just get frustrated by the attitude here that a few bad editorials or writers (like Stephens) make a publication not worth reading. OK -- NRO was pretty over the top about Trump.

But they still do have writers that are worth reading.

Captain Hate

Speakin of wholesome, whatever became of Marilyn Chambers

Died in 2009

Captain Hate

Palmieri comes off as unlikeable as Curb Dive; no wonder she got the job.

Texas Liberty Gal

MM - Of course I did.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

DrJ,

I don't have hurt feelings, but the fact of the matter is that when I used to read NRO, discussions of the Ex-Im bank didn't hit my radar.

I am not well-versed in financial stuff, so a lot of tings like that do not grab my attention.

My point is that whether or not this is an important issue, most people don't care about it because they don't understand it.

Texas Liberty Gal

MM - There are other ways to help small businesses.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

TLG,

Well, I didn't. I still don't. It is something that I have zero understanding about and so I am not going to get upset about, one way or the other.

A lot of these issues are crafted in DC. They are sent out to various media outlets friendly to the cause.

I do not understand the workings of Ex-Im. Therefore, I support Trump's position because I figure he does.

Probably that will be seen as naive, but it's the same attitude as I have about the actions in Syria and Afghanistan.

I voted for the guy to run things, so I a prone to give him the benefit of the doubt for the huge group of things I do not understand.

narciso

This piece for instance: https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-trump-is-like-early-giuliani-1492198616

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