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April 11, 2017


Miss Marple the Deplorable


My good friend here and I in Indiana are 100% in agreement with you.

Through the Clinton years, Lugar, as head (or ranking member) of the Foreign Relations Committee, was the go-to Republican for foreign policy on the Sunday shows. When Bush won and got Powell as SOS, suddenly, no one wanted to talk to Lugar.

It's like the McCain problem, and I believe it is withdrawal from the spotlight which affects them so adversely.

They really do need to retire. Sitting here at age 68, I can honestly say 75 is long enough. Go home to your grandkids, your garden, or take up woodworking or something.

I think Lugar said this to get on TV. Watch and see if I am not right.


Is that your favorite kevlar?

I hear goat, like sheep...almost human for nematoads like yer self.


surrendered your autonomy to the captain

Surrendering to daddy leaves too many bizarre options open.

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TV time for Dick gets him invited to some GOPe think tank in DC for shits and giggles and some decent air conditioned hotels. ;)

Indiana summers are hell. (Used to live 110 miles south in Illinois from Lawrenceville on the Mighty Embarass Rio.) Hotter than stink in that region in summa time.


OT bleg: does the vast JOM collective knowledge have any medical or personal expertise on a spinal condition known as Pars Defect and the surgical correction known as vertebrae fusion? TIA.


Tesla fans don't click. Something about Musk's firm evading NHTSA through NDAs and gobbledygook incident reporting.


So, no preference?

Goat/Sheep....same, same

How about sheep breeds?

Any preference?


Miss Marple the Deplorable


Surprisingly, we do have decent air conditioning here.

Also, Lugar lives in DC. That is one of the reasons he lost in the primaries. He has a mailing address here (or did at the time) but he lives in the DC area.


Is kevlar a covert perv..

Seems so..

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Don't know about the condition, but my uncle had a vertebrate fusion in 1969. It was very painful and he had to wear a cast for something like 3 months. He was a vet and just retired 2 years ago.

That was a long time ago and I am sure things have improved.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


There are dozens more. I used to raise Dorsets (the BEST breed in my opinion, because they have both spring and fall lambs and an al=purpose wool).

Dorsets have curved horns on both rams and ewes. (Polled Dorsets do not have horns. I like the horns.)

I had a ram who was trained to shake hands and drink from a hose. He also like a sip of my dad's beer.

I showed at the fair for about 5 years when I was a kid. My dad continued raising them because he liked them as companions when he was doing stuff around the farm.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Good call on the White House and all staff skipping this fiasco.


Good call on the White House and all staff skipping this fiasco.

Why did I think this had been cancelled?

Miss Marple the Deplorable


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:) I was yolking about AC in Indiana hotels. My first wife's mom was an heir to the fortune of the man who opened the first Holiday Inns in Indiana (Plymouth IN I believe it was).

And their current cash cow is the airport HI and the one out at the Pyramids in Naptown.

The standing joke in the fam was that Holiday Inns were the only hotels in IN that had "decent AC" (back in the 50s and 60s).

I didn't realize that Dick lived in DC. Serves him right to suffer. All that lobbyist cash and he's on the sidelines. Tough not being a boss, no?

Be well.

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The WH may not be attending but I bet my bottom dollar they're going to see clips from it.

Those pantloads in the media are going to be acting out.

Then it will be time for punishment.

Yuk it up Mo-Mo funny man. You're karma's bitch now.


Daddy, do you have reentry shock when you arrive home after a long trip and discover that nobody in your house including your dogs cede to you that same autonomy?

Funny you should mention that OL:)

Currently in my world puppy dog Nelson is in the situation of the son of Themistocles, from his famous comment to his wife on "Who Rules the Greeks."

From Plutarch's Life of Marcus Cato: (Chapter VIII)

[Once, in discussing petticoat government, he observed: "All men rule their women; we rule all men; but our women rule us." This remark, however, is a parody of a known saying of Themistocles, whose son one day persuaded his mother to obtain a number of favors from his Father. Themistocles said to her: "My Wife, the Athenians rule Greece, I rule the Athenians, and you rule me. But the son rules you; so let him be sparing of the authority which makes him the most powerful person in Greece despite his want of sense."]

ergo, Nelson rules the world.

On a related note, thank goodness Baron Trump currently rules today's planet instead of Malia, Chelsea, or Amy Carter.

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NOKOYokels on high alert:

Miss Marple the Deplorable


No problem.

If you live here, you sort of get used to people on the coasts thinking we are some sort of 3rd World Country, populated by rubes and meth addicts.

Most of the time it serves us well, as people leave us alone. I call Indiana "The Stealth State."

I figured you probably knew better, but I posted what I did to let lurkers know the true state of affairs.

However, I did gro up without AC. My parents bought a farm when I was in 5th grade. It had an Italianate house with tall arched windows and brick construction. (I mean that the walls were also brick, not just the facade. 2 1/2 bricks thick.)

No A/C. In summer that sucker would heat up like a kiln. I spent many a summer night sleeping on the picnic table outside.


Thanks, MM. Hopefully ~40 years of surgical technique has improved the procedure.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


I will call my sister, who is a surgical nurse and used to work for an ortho guy.

I will tell you what I find out.


Heck, ~50 years.


Thanks again, MM. You're a doll.


Is Kim spying on a Big Mac?

Fries and a diet-coke for Trump's thoughts...high price for quasi'thought..id'nt it?


Hard to believe I do this gratis, eh?


Pro Bono is how I roll.

Free James D!

If UAL gives in completely it will be at the mercy of every a-hole passenger who thinks he can disobey instructions, including would-be terrorists

I don't think so, because the unique (I hope) factor was bumping people after they'd boarded rather than before. If everything played out exactly the same, except that it happened at the gate rather than on the plane, as it should have if the employees in question had the slightest good sense, there would have been no blood, no ugly viral video scene, nothing at all memorable.

Bumping somebody already on the plane shouldn't ever happen (excepting the plane being over the weight limit or something equally freakish), and if the airline's employees were competent, it wouldn't.


Lou Dobbs has on General Keane. Here's some of that.

Missed much of the initial question answer part:

General Keane:...and this talk about moving Assad out, listen, the reality is that what Putin has done is assured the Alawite Regime is staying in power, and no one is going to force them out. Now if Putin believes that Assad is a liability, certainly he'll change out the Leader, but the Alawite Regime, it's infrastructure, will definitely stay in power.

Lou: Stepping back from that, the fact is 59 Missiles striking an undefended Airfield, from which BTW, the attacks were mounted against the very same town that was hit with those chemical weapons. This is not...a "Game Changer." It is not a moment of "Inflection" in the relationship either between Syria and Russia, or the United States and Western Nations and Russia. Why are we expecting so much to come of this?

Gen Keane: Well the back drop is the Obama Administration had such reticence to ever use even limited military action. Secretary Kerry I know for a fact recommended on multiple occasions limited Military action to force a Political solution. Always rejected. So I think what has happened here, is the signal is being sent by the Trump Administration that at times we are ready to use Military force, and also to help get Political solutions. And I think that is the loud message. it's not going to be a Geo-political Sea Change as a result of 59 Cruise Missiles to be sure, but remember this, in 1995 Bosnia/Herzevgovina, war raging there, Milosevic pounding the people there. We, a reluctant President Clinton, fired some Air Strikes in there. As a result of that we had the Dayton accords and the War stopped. So limited Military action does have a place, and we'll see if something comes of this. We want something to come of it, but you have to maintain a healthy skepticism about that as well.


Lou:...Now we look to North Korea. The Carl Vinson Strike Force in the Sea of Japan. Ahhh, where are we headed here? There doesn't seem to be any clear outline of either an agreement or even the suggestion of one about what to do with North Korea between the Trump Administration and President Xi. Are there Red Lines in North Korea?

Gen Keane: What I think that the Carrier Strike Group is largely about is the anniversary of Kim Sung Il, the Father of the modern North Korea's Birthday Anniversary Weekend. Most Intel analysts believe that what's going to happen is Kim Jung Un will fire his 6th Nuclear test. And I think the Carrier Strike Group is going up there to reassure our Japanese and particularly our South Korean allies, that the United States is here. This is not the Obama Administration with strategic patience. It's not by accident that General Mattis made his first visit, days after taking his Office, to South Korea and Japan. Rex Tillerson followed that up a few weeks later, and for the same reason also had a visit with China. I think President Trump has made a decision to do what 3 other Presidents have done and failed at---and that is try to leverage China to coerce North Korea to de-Nuclearize. That is what Florida was about. However he had a little stronger hand in Florida because of the Syrian Cruise Missile Attack. That didn't go unnoticed certainly by President Xi. He knows he's dealing with a different President than when he was dealing with President Obama. How much impact that will have, I have no idea, but we all want it to have some impact. The Strike Group is not going up there for confrontation. This is about reassuring our allies primarily, and obviously to send a message to the North Korean's about the kind of capability we do have.


Obama: Leading From Behind!

MSM: Reporting from Obama's Behind!

matt, deplore me if you must

Interesting news on goats, MM. Querida wants a couple and I have been resisting. 3 Alpacas is my limit (he said famously). The aussie needs something to herd, so he may yet become a goat herder.

So the Tahitian Dream wants to visit Berlin at the same time Trump is in Brussels. The man knows no bounds. After the lies on Syria how dare he show his face. I wonder what he or the press will say when Iran launches its first IRBM. The Obama Policy, a red line in the shifting sands of the Empty Quarter.

"Eek bin ein tool." You heard it first here.....

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--The line that got my attention was "They spend $243 million every single day and it is just a big clique." --

OT question;

Given the preferred pronunciation of;
Unique, etc.

How do JOMers pronounce clique?

"Cleek", as all sage and estimable Amurcuns do; or "click", as only prog dullards and demented trolls do? (I may be very slightly mischaracterizing some of those who say "click")


What legal leg does he have to stand on.
His ticket is his contract which he violated.

Maryrose, think of it this way: if you fail to pay your cell phone bill, which your contract demands can ATT come and beat you up?

The best tort you can bring is one with a video and lots of emotion the jury can identify with. Right now United is deciding how many millions it is willing to spend, and how much he can get the police people to kick in. (There is probably a cap on their damages - none on United).

It's a tort lawyer's dream.


Lol. He knows he's dealing with an emotionally immature loose-cannon and stands aside.

Y'all see that as a plus-plus I am quite sure.


Answer the urgent deflection @ 7:51 for a rare treatise on boredom.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Here is a site on Pars defect:


Here is one site on treatment:


My sister said that treatment in spinal problems has advanced a lot ( not unsurprisingly) since my uncle's surgery. No one is put in full body casts anymore. Often, they don't need anything, but occasionally they will be put in temporary back braces.

Hope this helps!



me·lis·ma (mə-lĭz′mə)
n. pl. me·lis·ma·ta (-mə-tə) or me·lis·mas
A passage of multiple notes sung to one syllable of text, as in Gregorian chant.
[Greek, melody, from melizein, to sing, from melos, song.]

I of course knew what it meant, but I just wanted to make sure everybody else did as well:)

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Those were all breeds of sheep, not goats.

however, your dog would herd either well, although easier with sheep. Goats are a little more aggressive.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Around here we say "click."

Of course, we are rubes and deplorables.

It wasn't until I was in high school that I realized "crick" was the same as "creek."

Dave (in MA)

Thanks, daddy. Now I know what I meant. Maybe you can tell me what 'biquitous' means. (Could have sworn I hit that 'u' key...)

RIP J. Geils.


Cleo Fartlion was flying coach to Charlottesville and shortly after takeoff decided to go sit in first class. He finds an empty seat and settles in. The flight attendant notices and tells him he’ll have to move back to coach.

So Cleo Fartlion tells her “The space time coordinates you refer to as coach are continuously overtaking the space time I occupy with a velocity approaching 600 mph. It's just your limited perception and lack of mental capacity that prevents you from appreciating that here and there are actually the same place in the universal frame of reference all occupy.

The attendant mentions this to the steward who goes over and tells Cleo Fartlion that since he is not ticketed for first class he will have to leave. So Cleo Fartlion tells him “Arbitrary class distinctions are historically discredited social constructs used to oppress the less fortunate and as self respecting vanguards of modern enlightenment enlightened by redemtive self awareness we are morally obliged to disregard such offensive, harmful conventions.

The steward mentions this to the captain, who tells the copilot “take over for a minute; I know how to deal with this”. He makes his way over to Cleo Fartlion and politely whispers something in his ear. After that Cleo Fartlion meekly gets up and returns to coach. When the captain returns to the cockpit the copilot asks “What did you tell that guy?”

The captain replied “I just told him that first class wasn’t going to Charlottesville.”

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Mental case Ben says he is not Dana Gilbert Ward of Pitzer college.
In order to help him establish his bona fides this is the Dana Ward he says he is.
Assuming that's the correct Dana Ward, perhaps this will end alternate speculation about feather passing Pitzer profs.

Jim Eagle

Its actually pronouced "cleek" like in the old golf irons.

French is not that difficult because the words are pronouced as they appear. Everyone overdoes the pronuciation to sound "french" when if you just pronounce them correctly you will sound french.

Does that make sense? I don't think so. Everyone thinks there is a special French accent but in reality there isn't. More confusion, I know.


I don't think it's that simple. UAL foolishly decides to boot the passenger after boarding. Passenger then understandably becomes upset. Passenger then foolishly resists the lawful orders (I'm assuming their lawful authority since I haven't followed this closely) from security personnel to deplane. Security controls and removes passenger from plane (I agree their method of removal was not the best choice).

The one video I watched didn't clearly show the interaction between passenger and security. I'm sure there are others out there, but I don't really care. Plenty of idiots involved.



Have we tried to create a Robot yet that is a painting Robot?

We have Robots that fly planes and answer phones and drive cars and play chess and flip burgers and explore Mars, so it would seem that Robot's that paint might be the next thing. Especially since we pay zillions for that trash Basquiat stuff Captain Hate had to pretend to not despise last week, and we all seem to enjoy reading about Elephants painting or chimpanzees painting, so if we've got monkey's trying to type Shakespeare, why don't we have Robots trying to make Monet's?


Sociology and Journalism for Dana? What a surprise.


JiB, you've never been to Missouri. Lots of "French" place names pronounced as written. French people get upset by that.

Clarice Feldman


FISA warrant had been obtained re Carter Page.


French heads would explode in Versailles, IN. Pronounced Ver-sails.

Jim Eagle

If that is the Dana we have come to know an despise then we are all Barnum waste.

Our Dana Ward is a pyscho who thinks by inculcating himself here with his bizzare anti_JOM comments makes his jones aspire to great heights then falls from his disappointmentl

As GUS would say later on tonight Dana Ward is sick and proves it everytme he comes here and posts the most jevunile comments looking for some kind of weird acceptance. He is a lonely sick guy and needs to really sick help.


So according to police sources, that the daily mail tracked down, the Dortmund bomb was remote detonated.

Captain Hate

we pay zillions for that trash Basquiat stuff Captain Hate had to pretend to not despise last week

Wrong; I didn't pretend. I wasn't obnoxious about like that drama queen doctor on the UAL flight but I made it plain to Mrs H that I didn't like it at all.

The lack of self awareness by the White House correspondents is surprising even given their horrendous track record. I don't think they're willing to acknowledge their role in Trump's success. I don't think he could've won without them being obviously against him.

Jim Eagle


Obvious signature fof a Monaco supporter. No yacht, envy. No tux for the evening, envy. No Ferrari, envy. Only explanation.


" think of it this way: if you fail to pay your cell phone bill, which your contract demands can ATT come and beat you up?"

IANAL, but it seems to me a more apt analogy is resisting arrest. If a cop lawfully tries to arrest and cuff you and you resist, then the cop gets a little rough with you, that's a bit more ambiguous.


Clearly maybe the bratva has a bet riding on Monaco, al queda either Assam brigades or Chechen emirate and/or Islamic state has targeted sports matches.

Miss Marple the Deplorable



I guess this is why they dropped the squirrel.

http ://nypost.com/2017/04/11/trump-were-not-going-into-syria/

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Just read it. Here is an operational link:


Miss Marple the Deplorable



Well that's reassuring, now varsity nusra /hat is syria, probably at erdogan's sufferamce, as well as Islamic state.


No surprise that Oscar Munoz would completely hose the UAL response to the passenger dragging incident.

When he was at CSX he hosted a charity fundraiser Mrs. Buckeye and I attended. They pulled a number of dining cars and a few observation cars from Jacksonville up into Georgia and back. Fine dining, drinking and dancing until the wee hours.

When we boarded the train in JAX at 5:00, he was already [redacted]-faced and making a fool of himself.

Captain Hate

J. Geils RIP



I saw the other day that Andrea Mitchell was damning this Administration as liars. That reminded me of Andrea Mitchell spilling the beans in an interview, much like Evelyn Farkas did, that she knew all about Valerie Plame being CIA, but then, realizing she had stepped in doo doo, lying about it when being grilled by Don Imus as to her evident lying. So here, with elaboration from TM, is refresher from 2006: Andrea Mitchell

Murray: Do we have any idea how widely known it was in Washington that Joe Wilson's wife worked for the CIA?

Andrea Mitchell: It was widely known among those of us who cover the intelligence community and who were actively engaged in trying to track down who among the foreign service community was the envoy to Niger. So a number of us began to pick up on that. But frankly I wasn't aware of her actual role at the CIA and the fact that she had a covert role involving weapons of mass destruction, not until Bob Novak wrote it.

So if Andrea's looking for liars all she has to do is look in the mirror.




Has anyone looked at the contract the UAL lotto loser violated?

Is it online?

Maybe we should debate the language that gave him the lottery boot.

Dinner time for me right now. If the pro-contract/just desserts side hasn't linked and quoted it by the time I get back, I'll take a stab at it.


So the press gets it's snout out of sorts, re Spicer speaking the inconvenient truth


No need to offer compensation then. Just drag any old poor fucker off the plane.

Posted by: Threadkiller | April 11, 2017 at 02:16 PM

As I said, it wouldn't do for me to have that job.


I think this is what he was supposed to be aware of.


They should have dropped a barbell on his nutsack. He agreed to it when he bought his ticket.


I mean if you're going to go Godwin, maybe pretend you know the word 'guernica'

Miss Marple the Deplorable

daddy, Regarding Andrea Mitchell, I offer the following.

Back in the 80's, when my daughter was small, I used to keep the TV on all day while doing chores. (This was before we had cable TV and talk radio.)

Reagan had a press conference. Included were his tax returns. (A recurring theme amongst democrats). Andrea Mitchell asked him why his charitable donations were so low.

Reagan replied that many of his charitable donations were to individuals as opposed to organizations,and thus were not deductible; and that he didn't worry about the listing on the tax return because Scripture says to give in secret.

I heard this live while I was dusting.

Then, Tom Brokaw came on at 6 PM and they talked about the press conference.

Andrea Mitchell said that when Reagan was questioned about charitable giving, "He had no explanation."

I stood in my family room with mouth agape. I have hated her ever since. She is a liar.

Clarice Feldman

Tell me Andrea's BFF Colin Powell had not told her about Plame. Remember that odd bit where the judge saw a name in her interview diary and said he really thought he had to call her to testify and then the NBC lawyers really went full throttle to keep her off? Remember that bit about "what one of us (Andrea, Russert and the 3d clown whose name I'm forgotten) knows all of us know".


3d clown

Judith Miller?



It may not be that simple but that is precisely what it will be settled on as the risk is a jury will decide it's that simple.


Yes Valerie was stepping on everyone's toes, hence the inr memo

Clarice Feldman

No, sbw--David Gregory


Right. Miller was at the NYTimes.


Fitz, Poweel and especially should all be strung up by their gonads when all is said and done Clarice.


I thought I heard heard earlier the FBI is refusing to turn over to the Intel Committees documents they requested related to Susan Rice.

2 Questions:

1) Anyone have a link to a story on that, and

2) Who does the FBI work for?


Fitz, Powell, and especially Armitage...



Close enough, daddy.

Dave (in MA)

RE: Trandrea, one of the last funny things I heard Imus say was that when she goes home, she has to let Crazy Al Greenspan get on top of her.

Clarice Feldman

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22/nunes-fbi-not-cooperating-our-investigation-trump-wiretapping daddy.

Schiff has said the same thing.


lyle-I have a child with scoliosis who wore a brace and then had to have spinal fusion.

I know a thing or two if I can help.


So the same slithy toves, who created this panopticon snipe hunt, now tell us there was nothing untoward and there is fire out there.

Clarice Feldman



Looks like Slavery is making a comeback in Libya:

BBC: African migrants sold in Libya 'slave markets', IOM says

Africans trying to reach Europe are being sold by their captors in "slave markets" in Libya, the International Organization for Migration (IOM) says.

I don't doubt that slavery is occurring, but I can't trust the messenger here since I can't put it past them to be spreading the "Slavery" meme to coerce Europe into taking in millions more refugee's.


Thanks Clarice,

Nighty nite.


Alright beckinsale didn't do the trick



So Anthony and cleopatra was derived from Thomas north' s translation of Plutarch, so seemed to have as nearly meticulous al I'll macchia or Thomas Morton


For those who followed our bizarre story of the gunman at Beluga Point who went on the lam and then the Cops closed the Highway a second time for President Xi's site-seeing visit with our armed gunman still on the loose, the story is over. They just found the gunman's body washed ashore at, you guessed it, Beluga Point.

Guess that means the dogs and I can head down toward Beluga for tonights walk.


Click for me.

This turns out to be a true internet meme. Now 127 years was 124 at the time of the post.


"Through this inscription I wish to enter my dying protest against what is called the Democratic party I have watched it closely since the days of Jackson and know that all the misfortunes of our nation has come to it through this so called party therefore beware of this party of treason."

The backstory is interesting.

Captain Hate

don't doubt that slavery is occurring, but I can't trust the messenger here since I can't put it past them to be spreading the "Slavery" meme to coerce Europe into taking in millions more refugee's.

Slavery was going on in Sudan recently; there has been some non MFM coverage of US Christian groups purchasing freedom for the enslaved. The MFM steers clear of stories that make Is-slum look bad compared to the Unpeople of Jesusland.


In the America I live in, it's pronounced "click" and not cleek. I've always thought of it similar to the split in pronunciation of caramel (in my family: carmul=wrong, care-uh-mel=correct).


Can we due airports for inflicting Rupert pulling on us


Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

It is similar, RG. but not identical.
In the latter the split is correct.
In the former, less so. :)


Well it's reassuring.


matt, deplore me if you must

that gunman was one of ours, daddy. A former paratrooper from Ft Richardson. Not sure where he served but the likelihood was both Iraq and Afghanistan. Will be learning more over the next couple of days. Poor, broken men who gave their all for naught.


They did name hurd and mcsally.


Miss Marple the Deplorable


daddy on Iphone7

Sorry Matt,

A very odd story start to finish. Kept shutting down the Highway but kept us all of n Ihe dark as to why.


Some perspective, remember they tried to flip this card of dr.hatfill


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