What Does China Want With North Korea?

Chinese leaders undoubtedly have a strategy with respect to North Korea and the West, although it is also likely they have hard-liners and moderates creating dynamic tension.

This piece describes the North Korean strategy, with the familiar point that the North Koreans have an ongoing crisis of legitimacy and believe they need their nukes to stave off a US overthrow (Libya and Qadaffi are mentioned here, although She Who Must Not Be Named is omitted as the architect of that venture.)

But a key point is made in the discussion of what it might take to soothe the fears of the North Korean rulers:

The High Costs of a Deal

Any agreement that North Korea would be likely to consider minimally acceptable would come at huge cost to the United States and its allies. North Korea would be likely to require:

■ A tacit acknowledgment of the country’s right to retain its existing programs.
■ A declaration that the United States considered the North Korean government legitimate and would not seek to topple it.
■ The lifting of sanctions.
■ The withdrawal or reduction of the American military commitment to South Korea.

“They want to see the end of that alliance,” said Joshua H. Pollack, the editor of the Nonproliferation Review, suggesting that North Korea has drawn inspiration from the way that the United States broke with Taiwan in order to normalize relations with China in the 1970s.

Mr. Pollack emphasized that North Korea probably saw this as a long-term goal to be accomplished over many years, rather than something to demand up front and all at once.

Still, he said, North Korea may see this as the only way to reduce the existential threat that its weapons program is meant to curb.

Any partial or full American withdrawal would risk sending the American relationship with South Korea and Japan into crisis, empowering North Korea and weakening American influence in Asia.

Hmm, breaking the South Korea/Japan/USA alliance and booting the US out of that part of the world... who else might benefit from that? China, maybe a bit?

Which suggests that as much as we exhort China to bring Kim Jong Un to heel, there are surely Chinese hard-liners arguing that in the longer run, North Korean and China have a broad overlap of interests. Troubling!

But then again, in what is presumably a signal to those North Koreans, the Chinese leadership has allowed some moderate dissent:

Criticism of Beijing’s North Korea Policy Comes From Unlikely Place: China

By Chris Buckley

BEIJING — When China’s best-known historian of the Korean War, Shen Zhihua, recently laid out his views on North Korea, astonishment rippled through the audience. China, he said with a bluntness that is rare here, had fundamentally botched its policy on the divided Korean Peninsula.

China’s bond with North Korea’s Communist leaders formed even before Mao Zedong’s decision in 1950 to send People’s Liberation Army soldiers to fight alongside them in the Korean War. Mao famously said the two sides were “as close as lips and teeth.”

But China should abandon the stale myths of fraternity that have propped up its support for North Korea and turn to South Korea, Mr. Shen said at a university lecture last month in Dalian, a northeastern Chinese port city.

“Judging by the current situation, North Korea is China’s latent enemy and South Korea could be China’s friend,” Mr. Shen said, according to a transcript he published online. “We must see clearly that China and North Korea are no longer brothers in arms, and in the short term there’s no possibility of an improvement in Chinese-North Korean relations.”

Whoa! It's hard to imagine that China would be willing to accept a re-unified Korea under South Korean leadership as part of a Western alliance. On the other hand...

China’s “traditionalist view that views the U.S. as a much greater threat than North Korea is deeply entrenched,” Bonnie S. Glaser, an expert on Chinese foreign policy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said in an email. “But the proponents of change are vocal, too. They argue that North Korea is a growing liability.”

What China really wants is stability and calm:

Mr. Shen has gone much further than other scholars in calling for a reset.

“The fundamental interests of China and North Korea are at odds,” he said in his lecture. “China’s fundamental interest lies in achieving a stability on its borders and developing outward. But since North Korea acquired nuclear weapons, that periphery has never been stable, so inevitably Chinese and North Korean interests are at odds.”

With Obama in office the Chinese were never really worried that the US would do something daft, so placating North Korea and annoying the US was the lower-risk path. George Bush, of course, was mired in Afghanistan and Iraq. Bill Clinton had his own distractions, some in Iraq and some closer to the Oval Office.

But Trump? There is a guy who can play the 'crazy' card with as much gusto as Kim Jong Un (I always thought that was a modest talking point in favor of the McCain Presidency, for what that was worth).

If - yuge IF - forced to acknowledge that their current path leads to a potentially disastrous confrontation China might yet try to walk a different road. My ongoing hope is that they try to preserve North Korea as an independent buffer on their border under sane new puppet leadership provided by the son of the recently-poisoned legitimate heir. Such a great deal can be worked out!

Comments

[Account Deleted]

Thanks for all the tech help everybody. Gonna rock this.

I'm armed and dangerous now.

[Bubarooni]

"... try drivesavers in Novato..."

Yep. I am, to my eternal shame, on their mailing list.

As a heads up to all, never, ever, ever keep important stuff on a single drive NAS.

[Captain Hate]

Dear God, reading that Pomona/Claremont tract was brutal.

[Scrubber]

"Donald Trump IS a nice guy"

Pope says he's no Christian. Heh.

How often did he go to church before this year?

He is just like yall.

[Account Deleted]

A former graduate assistant of mine from 1993 is an associate dean of students at Pomona College.

Miles Davis had a quote about Wayne Shorter after Shorter fell in "love" that is appropo to 20 plus years' effect on a once rapier wit and keen intellect:

"He lost the fire."

[narciso]

This was that exchange i referenced earlier:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6329595&postID=5366498968499089645&bpli=1

[Frau Fidibus]

"Dear God, reading that Pomona/Claremont tract was brutal."

Life is too short. Let that be a lesson to you, GH.

[Scrubber]

Really?

XI had to instruct Trump on the NorKs? How embarrassing.

His pride is askew. Will he develop intellectual curiosity at age 70?

[Threadkiller]

It would be smart to leave early if a good replacement could be named as it would give him a leg up in the election.

"Good" in whose eyes?

[Threadkiller]

One of Megyn Kelly's prime selling points was her looks. There are plenty of males who could have taken that slot.

Ig nailed it already.

:-)

[daddy]

The Hill: US preparing charges against Julian Assange: report
BY NIKITA VLADIMIROV

So a Russian,
at the Anti-Trump rag The Hill,
is writing a story saying that the Russian Puppet regime of Donald Trump,
is preparing charges against Assange of Wikileaks,
for leaking documents hacked by the Russians to help Trump defeat Hillary,
so Trump could be President,
and then he could prosecute Assange,
for leaking the Russian Documents,
which got Trump Elected.

It's almost like a Bizarro world version of:
"The House That Jack Built."

This is the White House that Trump Putin built.

This is the Russian Dictator who rigged the election that led to the White House that Trump Putin built.

This is the curb that Hillary fell off after she was drugged by the Russian Dictator who rigged the Election that led to the White House that Trump Putin built.

This is the bed that the prostitutes peed on to fill up the Dossier that ratted out Putin, that preceeded the curb that Hillary fell off after she was drugged by the Russian Dictator who rigged the Election that led to the White House that Trump Putin built.

...

[narciso]

She seems to have made most of the right enemies

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/19/exclusive-the-inside-story-of-how-tomi-lahren-flamed-out-at-the-blaze

Honestly they should rename it dumpsterfire,

[Scrubber]

He LOVED Wikileaks.

Now he doesn't

He's fickle like y'all.

Someone is punking him with knowledge..lol

[Clarice Feldman]

daddy, you win the IT tonight/

[Captain Hate]

Life is also too short to sit through an obnoxious poofter butt plug like Andy Cohen making a complete fool out of himself to hear Hurricane Camille. Bruni is worthless also.

[Jack is Back! (Overlooking the East River and Roosevelt Island)]

After a nice easy drive out of the City late morning and a big nap, movement and catching up I am ready for a good nights sleep. Walking better. Improving mobility and loading the knee more.

Anyone with same knee issues get it done, it will make life better and you will be better.

Slaap lekker, tot morgen.

[daddy]

DNC Spokeswoman Promotes Theory That Russia Has Dirt On Chaffetz

This is the Representative that Russia has dirt on that is quitting the Congress that is investigating the bed that the prostitutes peed on to fill up the Dossier that ratted out Putin, that preceeded the curb that Hillary fell off after she was drugged by the Russian Dictator who rigged the Election that led to the White House that Trump Putin built.

[Scrubber]

But, but He promised. Lol

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a54652/house-republicans-healthcare-compromise/

[narciso]

You capture the essential absurdity of it, daddy, in twelve days of Christmas style, the straw that are clutching re Cohen watnick is his wife works for ketchum, the firm that placed volodya's op ed in Carlos slims, is that illegal now considering fusion gps and podesta were actively lobbying against the magnitsky law?

[Scrubber]

Caine Mutiny? How many strawberries again?

http://www.covertbookreport.com/did-navy-carrier-group-disobey-trump/

[mad jack]

CH: The sainted Theo Epstein did not go to the Bush White House when the Sox won in 2004 and 2007 and as far as the local media were concerned...crickets. Tim Thomas no show with the Zero White House...string him up by his heels. SOP for the Boston media.

[Scrubber]

Nighty night.

[narciso]

Of the two, uribe is the one worth listening to:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/329834-report-trump-privately-met-with-former-colombian-presidents

Pastrana surrendered a large chunk of territory to the Colombian guerillas

[jimmyk]

I said something mildly positive about Tulsi Gabbard earlier, but then I see this:

Tulsi Gabbard‏Verified account @TulsiGabbard 3h3 hours ago

Amazed @USAGSessions doesn’t know Hawaii is a State, not just an "#IslandinthePacific." Another reason Sessions should step down.

Charles Cooke responded appropriately:

"Nobody believes that you think he thinks this."

[Captain Hate]

mad jack: I'm not that big of a hockey fan but I was cheering for the Bruins when they won the Cup and was following the games on their respective threads at Sons of Sam Horn, which had some really knowledgeable and funny fans. They LOVED Tim Thomas with no exception. It's a matter of the media assholes not understanding what should be their primary audience.

And they wonder why more layoffs loom.

[JimNorCal]

Kudos, daddy!

[jimmyk]

Now there's a rumor that Berkeley has reversed its decision to cancel Coulter's appearance. Of course it seems that she was going to appear anyway, so it's hard to know cause and effect.

[narciso]

The dnc practically has hounds after her for Syrian stance and support fir doc brown, so she throws them a bone.

[narciso]

But we appreciate smoother learning curves:

https://panampost.com/julian-villabona/2017/04/19/colombia-president-pastrana-questions-santos-farc/

[daddy]

Amazed @USAGSessions doesn’t know Hawaii is a State, not just an "#IslandinthePacific." Another reason Sessions should step down.

Why? Tulsi Gabbard ought to be happy knowing that unlike Dem Congressman Hank Johnson, Sessions knows being an island Mexicans can't walk to it and make it tip over like Guam.

Rep. Hank Johnson, Guam will Tip over and capsize

[narciso]

Now that tweet seems particularly odd considering her view of Syrian rebels.

[narciso]

It really is like Iran and Iraq:

Http://therightscoop.com/andrea-tantaros-accuses-fox-news-personality-of-smearing-her-via-tweet

[mad jack]

Exactly CH. B's fans and Boston media are not going to the same parties. Boston media will be holding their gatherings in a phone booth, if they can find one, at the pace they are getting "downsized".

[Captain Hate]

On Thursday’s Mark Levin show, Landmark Legal Foundation has filed a request with the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA). The request asks the secret court to order an investigation into the leaking of surveillance activity conducted on members of Donald Trump’s team, in accordance with the rulings of FISA. The filing cites a flurry of recent published reports that show an enormous amount of leaked classified information has been used for political purposes in opposition to President Trump. Landmark respectfully suggests that the Court direct the government to complete its investigation and report its findings to the Court within 90 days.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://politicaldig.com/collin-powell-jeff-sessions-im-watching-closely/

Like I care what Colin Powell thinks.

I figure his speaking fees from right-leaning people have dried up, so he's going for the progs.

[Captain Hate]

Reading Powell's name is about as welcome as finding out a check you received bounced. Just STFU & GTFO.

[narciso]

Did they say which fool judge on the fisa court bought the dossier as evidence?

[Threadkiller]

http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/04/evan-mcmullin-up-to-his-nevertrump-eyeballs-in-campaign-debt/

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Captain Hate,

No doubt. It's funny he suddenly became such an admired person in progland.

[narciso]

You know how I feel about tapper

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3545939/posts

[Frau Fidibus]

TK - a good news item @10:20!

[Threadkiller]

He probably needs Chafed-Putz to come home and help pay the bills, Frau.

[Threadkiller]

This garbage:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/329507-ted-cruz-you-better-believe-warren-could-beat-trump-in-2020

uses this garbage:

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/04/18/cruz-defends-house-freedom-caucus-against-white-house-critics/

as the source.

Apparently Cruz was knob polishing three conservative radio hosts in a panel.

I am having a tough time finding the names of the three, so I will reserve my Cruz bashing until I figure it out.

[narciso]

Texas tribune hates anyone to the left of gisnell's girl, to
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-financial-idUSKBN17M2XJ?il=0

[Threadkiller]

Narciso, what gives with all the wrecked links?

This is a new idiosyncrasy I'm really struggling with.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Re Cruz:

Don't trust him, never will.

I imagine Trump has his number.

Heading to bed. Nytol!

[narciso]

The http doesnt always attach:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3545939/

[narciso]

Doesnt really take the place of tax reform

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-financial-idUSKBN17M2XJ?il=0

[Foxy Chics]

Those leakers must be shivering and quaking in fear as little big man Jeff threatens.

Our Keystone Kops won't ever shoot straight.

[70 weeks of years]

Is Trump the Anti-Christ?

Food for thought.

[narciso]

This is why they lost their nerve in April 2002, criminally.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-20/caracas-on-knife-edge-as-protesters-erect-makeshift-barricades

[sammy small]

Tell us Tulsi....which one of the 57 states is Hawaii?

[lurkersusie]

Charity worker imprisoned in Egypt is home free in USA tonight after Trump intervened.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/freed-egyptian-american-prisoner-returns-home-following-trump-intervention/2017/04/20/d569fe1e-2608-11e7-bb9d-8cd6118e1409_story.html

[narciso]

They don't consider the hacker might have no particular allegiance like assuage was originally.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/20/is-there-a-russian-mole-inside-the-nsa-the-cia-or-both.html

[narciso]

Fairly obvious to anyone paying attention

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-guest-says-msnbc-is-an-apologist-for-the-islamists

[RattlerGator]

I'm late to the Auburn party, I see, and headed for some shut-eye but wanted to note this gem from Momto2:

Here's a bit more from the Auburn protest last night. These "protesters" don't have a clue what they are doing. Notice when challenged he looks for a way out! (Warning: language alert)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL4bdHzVFso&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: Momto2 | April 20, 2017 at 01:11 AM

And Black Man didn't merely confront the guy. No, no, no. He closed with a truly dismissive "Bitch Ass, Nigga!" taunt -- ha !!! Laughed my ass off at that one!

If somebody planted him there for just that purpose, job well done.

[GUS]

Fuxing Clown.
((

"Donald Trump IS a nice guy"

Pope says he's no Christian. Heh.

How often did he go to church before this year?

He is just like yall.}}

Obama is a Christian. Right???
Where and WHEN did the Jug eared mother fuxer go to Church???

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Is it just me or is daddy getting funnier?

[boatbuilder]

Very late checking in, but Daddy's 7:27 should go straight to the interweb Hall of Fame.

Also CH pay no attention to mad jack. He's a BS'er from way back. He has no idea what he is talking about. ;-)

[narciso]

Well reverend Wrights church. Which was cozy with the wandering. coma and Muammar the fashion plate

[GUS]

Daddy IS getting funnier. He's always been BRIGHT BIGLY, but he's getting fed up with TEH NONSENSE.

[GUS]

So Ojugears is a CHRISTIAN??? He was President for 8 years after SHITCANNING JEREMIAH BIGOT WRIGHT. Which church did he or DOES he attend. What RELIGION has he handed down or shared with his CHOOOMING daughters????
IT'S FUCKING ABSURD.

[narciso]

Like steyn who I dubbed the voltaire of the age, because he could find the humor in dark times:

https://www.steynonline.com/7760/writing-it-down

[narciso]

The 9:21 was a great follow-up, who would be pesci or Daniel Stern's character now.

[GUS]

Has anyone here on JOM seen or heard about "60 DAYS IN-ATLANTA"??
It's a reality show, in which ATLANTA-FULTON COUNTY JAIL, is allowed to be USED as a SJW incubator of LIBERAL BULLSHIT.
Who and WHAT would allow a CITY or COUNTY LOCK UP to be made to appear COMPLETE and UTTERLY dysfunctional and VIOLENT/RACIST??
Who, WHOM and Why would this HORSE SHIT, be allowed to FESTER and be MADE INTO TEEEEVEEEEEEEE???
This is not a difficult question.

Who ALLOWED.....FAST and FURIOUS???

[GUS]

Obama, Holder and Lynch are CRIMINALS. They are MARXISTS and RACIST black Social Justice Warrior CRIMINALS. Their dysfunction and the willingness of the MFM to support their CRIMINAL RACIALLY BIASED IDEOLOGY is EPIC.
The IRS, the DOJ, the FBI, and NOW OBVIOUSLY, the CIA, and VARIOUS OTHER UMPTEEN INTEL ORGS have been used by these BASTARDS to USURP and to DISALLOW other Americans Constitutional Rights in a way NEVER BEFORE SEEN.
OBAMA needs PRISON TIME.

[GUS]

Once again. 60 days in Atlanta, is a TEEEEEEVEEEEE show, that shows ATLANTA and FULTON COUNTY lock-up and County Jail, as a DRUG, RACIST and a messed up DYSFUNCTIONAL CIVIL RIGHTS violating MACHINE.

How on EARTH would ATLANTA or FULTON COUNTY allow OR be PART and PARCEL of such a BULLSHITTACULAR PILE OF CRAP????

I think MOST OF US, understand it. Ojugears, Stedman and Lynchette, all SHIT, where they EAT.

[Gentlejim]

GUS,
They first did the 60 Days In in Clark County, IN. Clark County is now involved with LIVE PD. Must be big $ involved.

[GUS]

Hey Gentlejim!!!! You know that I think the World of you....
60 DAYS IN..ATLANTA.... could only be 2 things.
A clownish FAKE NEWS pretend story board, much like and SUCH as.......AIRPLANE REPO- or OTHER pretend shows such as.......sjw stuff.
The ATLANTA SHOW, is obviously sanctioned or WAS Sanctioned by HOLDER DOJ shit, such as FERGUSEN MISSOURI, crap on rye toast.

[daddy]

Here's how Josh Chafetz handled his announcement that he wasn't standing for Re-Election:

Chafetz: ...one day after he announced he would not seek reelection to his seat in 2018......Chaffetz wrote, "Thanks for having me on yesterday, I appreciate it. I will continue to weigh the options, but I might depart early. The state needs to figure out how this works."

In contrast, here's how my Congressman Don Young announced his intentions today:

Don Young: "...I believe in what I can do for the state of Alaska; I'm good at what I do; and you've been very supportive … So I'm filing early so those that might think about running or (that) I might retire, you can forget it. I like what I do. I'm good at what I do. I'm right for Alaska."

Like him or hate him, you know where he stands and you know he wants to do the job.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/04/21/venezuela-on-the-brink-images-and-video/#more-131636

Multiple videos. Venezuela is collapsing.

Let's hear about the wonderfulness of socialism, Mr. Sanders.

[henry]

The other thing coming out of Venezuela includes reports of people too weak from hunger to protest. Maduro is learning one of Kim's tools for wielding power: do what I say or don't eat.

[Davod]

"Multiple videos. Venezuela is collapsing.Let's hear about the wonderfulness of socialism, Mr. Sanders."

If only Kennedy had not placed the embargo on Venezuela, an embargo which was reinforced by the Helms-Burton law.

Oops. My mistake. That should read Cuba.

[Davod]

"The other thing coming out of Venezuela includes reports of people too weak from hunger to protest."

Government forced dieting saves people from themselves (Protesting can get you killed).

[Captain Hate]

Fatboy Maduro hasn't missed many meals just like his ambulatory fart machine predecessor, Chavez. Maybe goofball Tim Kaine and his ilk should explain why they worship these third world shitholes.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.voanews.com/a/defense-secretary-mattis-egypt/3817954.html

[Captain Hate]

Good riddance:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a33255/why-diesel-is-done-for-in-passenger-cars/

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

He's up!!

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 47s47 seconds ago

Another terrorist attack in Paris. The people of France will not take much more of this. Will have a big effect on presidential election!
46 replies 127 retweets 340 likes

[70 weeks of years]

Heh. Liberalism has collapsed?

Where the flock are the CONSERVATIVES?

Ho-o-o-ly Jesus! Lol

[Jack is Back! (Overlooking the East River and Roosevelt Island)]

Got up 3 times last night for little walks and each progressively stronger and greater balance and mobility. This will not take long sticking to exercises, meds and rest. Haven't felt this healthy overall in years.

Funny how a little old knee can mess up the rest of your body and mind. But then it is the biggest joint😷

Puppies come back today!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

President Trump also retweeted this story about the NYT apologizing after the sports writer tweeted misleading photos of the Patriots attendance at the White House. (link provided because there is a video attached.)

https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/855360990963052544

[70 weeks of years]

Marblemouth had to have his "rogue judge' nonsense 'splined by an underling.

Does every idiot on the planet have to be associated with this WH?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 21m21 minutes ago

No matter how much I accomplish during the ridiculous standard of the first 100 days, & it has been a lot (including S.C.), media will kill!
3,716 replies 1,692 retweets 7,260 likes

[rse]

so yesterday red is working from home for a while and comes flying down stairs telling me to look outside. a mother goose and her 7 goslings of pure fluff had walked up street and then up driveway. they looked like make way for ducklings.

paused in the shade of crepe myrtle and then up rest of driveway, down stone steps and into backyard. once again sheltered before walking back and down the hill into the woods son created to get to neighbor house and pool.

from all the honking someone had gotten separated. guessing maybe they were coming from a creek and wanted to get back

[Buckeye]

Jack

Having the dogs back will encourage you to get up and move:)

[Buckeye]

CH

I read the diesel article.

I wonder how fast the refineries can "unwind" their diesel production bias? Same with filling stations.

Might take a decade or two.

[RattlerGator]

Haven't felt this healthy overall in years.

That's great news, JiB. I had no idea your knees were giving you so much trouble that you *already* are better off.

[Captain Hate]

Buckeye, any car enthusiast should be revolted by the mere existence of diesel fuel, which smells as bad as Curb Dive's pantsuits on a hot summer day. Detroit's dumbest idea ever, which is really saying something, was those diesel fueled four stroke rattletraps which combined the worst of all worlds to produce something that instantly triggered immense disgust without even knowing why. Everyone associated with those monstrosities are going directly to Hell.

[Jack is Back!]

Just walked down the stairs using a cane and continued walking around the house with said cane. No more Zimmer frames for me (walkers). This means I can start driving soon. Big weight off Mrs. JiB's shoulders running around for Frederick and the dogs. Back to routine in no time.

RG,

Got a big time infection of the knee joint last year and put in a rehab facility for 6 weeks. Finally, able now to get the knee replaced. Cannot believe the difference.

[Clarice Feldman]

Very happy for you, JiB.
l

[Porchlight]

Sorry about that... I'll try and not use such cheap jokes going forward.

No worries, Bubarooni. I know you know the real story. Sadly most people only know the Team America jokes, and have no idea what's really going on. I'm sure the left prefers it that way.

[Porchlight]

JiB, what a huge relief for you. It's going to be a great summer now that you can get around much more comfortably.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Captain Hate,
My opinion of Diesel engines is derived from follwing Indianapolis diesel buses back in the 70's in the summer, driving an un-air conditioned Datsun 510 with the windowsopen, which happenedto be at bus exhaust pipe level.

GACK! Talk about nausea and headache-inducing!

One of the great improvements in public transportation (and air quality) was the replacement of those buses to ones that run on natural gas.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Oh, look. If Utah puts this guy in the Senate, he will be nothing but a posing grandstander, worse than Ben Sasse.

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=43939486&nid=757&title=poll-evan-mcmullin-beats-sen-orrin-hatch-in-head-to-head-matchup

[-peter]

Your quasi quotidian Wretchard
https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/04/21/ancient-skynet/

[anonamom]

JiB, if you happen to be on BP meds, keep an eye on your BP---many people are able to come off of them, or decrease significantly, once the pain of the horrible knees is no longer part of their every moment of ambulation.

[Momto2]

JIB - So happy to hear of your great progress. I know this will change your life in many good ways!

[narciso]

Great news job.

The embargo has been ignored by most of our allies unlike the one against South Africa and Rhodesia, but you already knew that right?

[Captain Hate]

When Howard Dean tweeted "hate speech is not protected by the first amendment"

Zippy level Constitutional scholarship on display.