Apparently there has been a green fantasy of the United States powering itself exclusively with renewable energy, with hydroelectric power providing a baseload capability when the sun isn't shining, the wind isn't blowing, and other storage tricks are insufficient. Eduardo Porter of the NY Times provides an unexpected platform for a vigorous wake-up call and return to reality:
Fisticuffs Over the Route to a Clean-Energy Future
Could the entire American economy run on renewable energy alone?
This may seem like an irrelevant question, given that both the White House and Congress are controlled by a party that rejects the scientific consensus about human-driven climate change. But the proposition that it could, long a dream of an environmental movement as wary of nuclear energy as it is of fossil fuels, has been gaining ground among policy makers committed to reducing the nation’s carbon footprint. Democrats in both the United States Senate and in the California Assembly have proposed legislation this year calling for a full transition to renewable energy sources.
They are relying on what looks like a watertight scholarly analysis to support their call: the work of a prominent energy systems engineer from Stanford University, Mark Z. Jacobson. With three co-authors, he published a widely heralded article two years ago asserting that it would be eminently feasible to power the American economy by midcentury almost entirely with energy from the wind, the sun and water. What’s more, it would be cheaper than running it on fossil fuels.
And yet the proposition is hardly as solid as Professor Jacobson asserts.
In a long-awaited article published this week in The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences — the same journal in which Professor Jacobson’s manifesto appeared — a group of 21 prominent scholars, including physicists and engineers, climate scientists and sociologists, took a fine comb to the Jacobson paper and dismantled its conclusions bit by bit.
“I had largely ignored the papers arguing that doing all with renewables was possible at negative costs because they struck me as obviously incorrect,” said David Victor of the University of California, San Diego, a co-author of the new critique of Professor Jacobson’s work. “But when policy makers started using this paper for scientific support, I thought, ‘this paper is dangerous.’”
The conclusion of the critique is damning: Professor Jacobson relied on “invalid modeling tools,” committed “modeling errors” and made “implausible and inadequately supported assumptions,” the scholars wrote. “Our paper is pretty devastating,” said Varun Sivaram from the Council on Foreign Relations, a co-author of the new critique.
The science was not settled. An example:
“To repower the world, we need to expand a lot of things to a large scale,” Professor Jacobson told me. “But there is no reason we can’t scale up.”
Actually, there are reasons. The main energy storage technologies he proposes — hydrogen and heat stored in rocks buried underground — have never been put in place at anywhere near the scale required to power a nation, or even a large city.
His system requires storing seven weeks’ worth of energy consumption. Today, the 10 biggest storage systems in the United States combined store some 43 minutes. Hydrogen production would have to be scaled up by a factor of 100,000 or more to meet the requirements in Professor Jacobson’s analysis, according to his critics.
Professor Jacobson notes that Denmark has deployed a heating system similar to the one he proposes. But Denmark adapted an existing underground pipe infrastructure to transport the heat, whereas a system would have to be built from scratch in American cities.
A common thread to the Jacobson approach is how little regard it shows for the political, social and technical plausibility of what would undoubtedly be wrenching transformations across the economy.
New nukes are in our future.
First!
Posted by: jimmyk | June 21, 2017 at 01:26 PM
Like communism, green energy works better in theory than in practice.
Posted by: jimmyk | June 21, 2017 at 01:31 PM
yeah!! new nukes!! Mr Burns will be happy.
ps. I hope they use Thorium this time.
Posted by: henry | June 21, 2017 at 01:33 PM
Fukushima a long way from Connecticut.
Posted by: NUKE WASTE OR SUNSHINE...DEALERS CHOICE. | June 21, 2017 at 01:33 PM
Last
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Thingy
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | June 21, 2017 at 01:35 PM
Is Trump chomping at the populist bit?
Head-fake to the center coming?
Is he gonna VETO?
Still a freaking liar..
Posted by: He Lies | June 21, 2017 at 01:39 PM
I saw a list of bills passed by the House this week, and one of them was for improved tax breaks for nuclear energy. I will see if I can find that list.
Posted by: Miss Marple | June 21, 2017 at 01:39 PM
"The conclusion of the critique is damning: [PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT GLIBLE STATE 'THE SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS ON GLOBAL WARMING' HAVE] relied on “invalid modeling tools,” committed “modeling errors” and made “implausible and inadequately supported assumptions,..."
fixed it.
Posted by: exdemocrat | June 21, 2017 at 01:41 PM
Are the yoyos advocating hydro as base load the same yoyos that won't let a dam get built because it'll harm some fish?
And even if the feds grease the nuke skids, you have the state- and local-level NIMBYs to deal with. Recall it was Mario Cuomo and the local yokels who killed Shoreham.
Posted by: Another Bob | June 21, 2017 at 01:44 PM
Another Bob... think east coast buying from Quebec Hydro... kills Canadian fish so local smug is unharmed.
Posted by: henry | June 21, 2017 at 01:46 PM
2016 WAS OUR PLANET’S HOTTEST YEAR since humans began keeping records, with average global land and water surface temperatures spiking to 58.69 degrees Fahrenheit. That’s 1.69 degrees warmer than the 20th-century average. It might not sound like a lot, but the difference between our current global average and one during an ancient ice age—when the U.S. sat under glaciers 3,000 feet deep—is only 5 degrees or so, according to the climate record preserved in ice and trees.
The same record shows that changes of this magnitude simply don’t happen over a mere century. Human fingerprints are all over the recent temperature trends. Industry boomed in the late 1800s, sending new pollutants into the air. As a result, carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, which trap heat inside Earth’s atmosphere, have multiplied. One estimate suggests that CO2 emissions in 2011 were 150 times higher than in 1850.
Natural fluctuations, such as El Niño, played a part. But if global warming is like riding the up escalator, these cycles amount to jumping up or crouching down along the way: Temperatures might rise or fall, but overall, climate change keeps pushing them skyward.
our warming planet infographic
These days, Earth pushes the mercury half a degree or more above the 20th-century average far more often than it used to. Here we see the number of years per decade that had above-average temperatures—and how many of those years rose a half, or even a whole, degree above the norm.
1. The Record Begins
Meteorologists in England started collecting weather statistics back in 1659, but it wasn’t until 1873 that countries began to share annual data through what would later become the World Meteorological Organization. So the official global record doesn’t begin until 1880.
2. The 1940s Spike
Booming industry and widespread car ownership likely spurred this jump above average. It was cut short, ironically, by a burst of aerosol pollution from coal and oil, which actually cools the planet by seeding clouds that scatter sunlight. But by the 1970s, emissions of compounds like CO2 outpaced any pollutant-related cooling effects.
3. The Upward Climb
You don’t need a science degree to see that our average global temperature is going up. Natural weather fluctuations may keep 2017 from breaking yet another heat record, but as our hottest years get hotter, so do the ones that
Posted by: YOU Lie | June 21, 2017 at 01:48 PM
Henry, local smug is unharmed until you have to start placing the additional 750 kV lines to move all that power outta places like Canadian Frogistan.
Posted by: Another Bob | June 21, 2017 at 01:53 PM
They'll use ley lines for that... the unicorns can find them.
Posted by: henry | June 21, 2017 at 01:55 PM
The reason the American people didn’t accept this health care bill is ’cause they knew it had no bipartisan support, in addition to the fact that it was an awful proposal cooked up behind closed doors with a whole lot of special deals.”
You might think that quote comes from a Democratic member of Congress talking about the American Health Care Act (AHCA), but it doesn’t — it’s actually Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) sounding off on the Affordable Care Act (ACA) during an MSNBC interview back in January 2010.
In one 25-second video clip, McConnell managed to touch on all the things people find objectionable about the process Republicans are using to push the AHCA — a bill being drafted being closed doors, without Democratic input, and reportedly featuring “special deals” meant to make it palatable for conservative Republicans who, as an article of faith, object to any redistribution of wealth.
“Everything about it turned the American people off — that’s not the way to operate,” McConnell continued. “The president ought to take this as a message to recalibrate how he wants to govern, and if he wants to govern in the middle, I think we’ll be happy to meet him there.”
Posted by: Ghengis Con | June 21, 2017 at 01:55 PM
Henry, I had to look that reference up.
You owe me a keyboard... LOL...
Posted by: Another Bob | June 21, 2017 at 01:56 PM
:)
Posted by: henry | June 21, 2017 at 01:59 PM
Trump has been ruled by compulsions, obsessions and vindictiveness, expressed nearly daily on Twitter. He has demonstrated an egotism that borders on solipsism. His political skills as president have been close to nonexistent. His White House is divided, incompetent and chaotic, and key administration jobs remain unfilled. His legislative agenda has gone nowhere. He has told constant, childish, refuted, uncorrected lies, and demanded and habituated deception among his underlings. He has humiliated and undercut his staff while requiring and rewarding flattery. He has promoted self-serving conspiracy theories. He has displayed pathetic, even frightening, ignorance on policy matters foreign and domestic. He has inflicted his ethically challenged associates on the nation. He is dead to the poetry of language and to the nobility of the political enterprise, viewing politics as conquest rather than as service.
That’s not all:
Trump has made consistent appeals to prejudice based on religion and ethnicity, and associated the Republican Party with bias. He has stoked tribal hostilities. He has carelessly fractured our national unity. He has attempted to undermine respect for any institution that opposes or limits him — be it the responsible press, the courts or the intelligence community. He has invited criminal investigation through his secrecy and carelessness. He has publicly attempted to intimidate law enforcement. He has systematically alarmed our allies and given comfort to authoritarians. He promised to emancipate the world from American moral leadership — and has kept that pledge.
Posted by: GOD BLESS OUR PRESIDUNCE | June 21, 2017 at 02:07 PM
But more seriously, when I left the nuke industry in the mid '90s, there were all kinds of new technologies waiting in the wings for market and government approval. Damn shame no progress was made.
Passive cooling was big - something goes bad, just turn it all off then keep your hands off it. Addressed the Chernobyl and TMI optics quite well I thought.
Posted by: Another Bob | June 21, 2017 at 02:07 PM
Annnnnd...his pride in himself balloons endomorphically with each new day!
Posted by: Chortle | June 21, 2017 at 02:09 PM
Even molten salt is a fuck up.
Posted by: Yoshi | June 21, 2017 at 02:10 PM
Gardeners..
Heard of HiBrix
It's about sugar content in foliage of fruit/veggies. My tomatoes just measured 14. Sweet as candy. Bugs think it's not food. 4 4ft x 4ft tomato bushes and not one tomato worm.
Posted by: Best practice. | June 21, 2017 at 02:15 PM
Trump administration officials said Wednesday that Russia targeted election-related systems in 21 states leading up to the 2016 presidential election.
A Department of Homeland Security (DHS) official made the disclosure Wednesday during testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee as part of its probe of Russia's interference in the election.
“We have evidence of election-related systems in 21 states that were targeted," said Jeanette Manfra, acting deputy under secretary for cybersecurity and communications at DHS’s National Protection and Programs Directorate.
Posted by: Russia not important....EMOLUEMENTS | June 21, 2017 at 02:19 PM
REPORTER: On the healthcare bill...
SEN JOHN MCCAIN: I haven't seen it!
REPORTER: Is that a problem?
MCCAIN: Never a problem, no! I always like to move forward with legislation I've never seen!
Posted by: SNARKY NO VOTE | June 21, 2017 at 02:21 PM
Just....three...rumpublican No votes..
Posted by: SNARKY NO VOTE | June 21, 2017 at 02:23 PM
And it would rob Trump of another victory lap. He can't VETO and pretend to care about the working class.
Posted by: SNARKY NO VOTE | June 21, 2017 at 02:25 PM
As regulars here know, I have been a base load hawk and a green dove. Beside enviro regs driving generation technology you can now also thank young Mr. Musk. If you want to displace oil for battery power you need a reliable and available electric power supply. At least until such time you can mass commercialize hydrogen fiel cells.
I for one not cocernened about HV transmission since localized distribution can answer that if there is political will.
If you want to green in transportation then be prepared for going black in generation.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | June 21, 2017 at 02:28 PM
We need Dr. Evil to drill into the earth's mantle.
Posted by: Ralph L | June 21, 2017 at 02:47 PM
JIB, I think you've sort of begged the question re. transmission. Lack of political will is exactly the problem.
I've seen firsthand the the nonsense that goes into the arguments about placement of those lines. Stray voltage killing cows, or somehow affecting their milk, cancer and neurological diseases in people (especially THE CHILDREN!!1!!1!). There's a laundry list of CAN"T PUT THIS HERE, THIS WILL KILL US!
Posted by: Another Bob | June 21, 2017 at 02:55 PM
And it's all dutifully taken seriously by the various and sundry public officials.
Posted by: Another Bob | June 21, 2017 at 02:56 PM
And JIB, you're correct of course about "green" transportation. But similar to asking where food comes from and hearing "the store", nobody thinks about where all that juice will come from.
Posted by: Another Bob | June 21, 2017 at 02:57 PM
We will never grow tired of losing.
Posted by: Liberals | June 21, 2017 at 02:59 PM
Don't forget, President Trump event tonight in Iowa!
Wed, June 21, 2017
Cedar Rapids, IA
07:00 pm (CST)
youtube link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGNaBO-x2ho
Posted by: MAGA PSA | June 21, 2017 at 03:04 PM
Via Insty:
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/20/texas-couple-exonerated-25-years-after-being-convicted-of-lurid-crimes-that-never-happened/?comments=1#comments
I don't care if it's 25 years later. Everyone involved in the arrest and prosecution of these people needs to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
Posted by: James D. | June 21, 2017 at 03:06 PM
The self delusion on electric cars is very amusing.
Posted by: Captain Hate | June 21, 2017 at 03:07 PM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/republican-healthcare-bill-will-be-posted-online-thursday/article/2626645
Posted by: Miss Marple | June 21, 2017 at 03:08 PM
The visit was in keeping with the low profile that the president’s son-in-law has kept, rarely speaking in public and operating largely behind the scenes.
Israeli and US officials gave no details of what was due to be discussed.
A video released by Netanyahu’s office showed the Israeli prime minister – a friend of Kushner’s father – embracing him and saying: “This is an opportunity to pursue our common goals of security, prosperity and peace.
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“Jared, I welcome you here in that spirit. I know of your efforts, the president’s efforts, and I look forward to working with you to achieve these common goals.”
Kushner replied: “The president sends his best regards and it’s an honour to be here with you.”
However, journalists were prevented from even filming Kushner’s arrival at Netanyahu’s office. The Associated Press said one of its cameramen was prevented from filming the arrival of his convoy while another was ordered to delete his memory card of all images of the prime minister’s office.
Kushner was due to meet the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, later in Ramallah.
Posted by: OH WHAT A RICH TARGET ENVIRONMENT | June 21, 2017 at 03:11 PM
Emphasis on 'prosperity '..lol
Posted by: OH WHAT A RICH TARGET ENVIRONMENT | June 21, 2017 at 03:12 PM
The self delusion on electric cars is very amusing.
We should consistently refer to them as "coal-powered cars." Wind power is effectively "bald eagle-powered."
Posted by: jimmyk | June 21, 2017 at 03:15 PM
Only three needed..
Now that you see my positiom..two remain.
That shouldn't be difficult but arsenic pool aid is very tempting.
Posted by: JOHN MCCAIN | June 21, 2017 at 03:16 PM
Kool aid captcha.
Posted by: JOHN MCCAIN | June 21, 2017 at 03:16 PM
The best thing about electric cars is the moonbats arguing over the EV parking space etiquette at work. They have special parking spots but the charging stations are in between the spaces, so you're supposed to run outside in the middle of the day and put the charger on the car next to yours or you're considered almost as bad as the rest of us.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | June 21, 2017 at 03:18 PM
James D., their $1.something million award is no way compensation for their ruined lives.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | June 21, 2017 at 03:20 PM
Dave, do they pay for the charging or do you?
Posted by: Ralph L | June 21, 2017 at 03:20 PM
It's a company bennie, all you have to do is overpay for a government-subsidized car and you're in.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | June 21, 2017 at 03:22 PM
Now that the voters are pretty much aware that voting for commiecrats is a bad thing, the RINO cockroaches should start seeing some sunlight.
Posted by: Captain Hate | June 21, 2017 at 03:22 PM
The Whole Foods around here have them, too.
Speaking of, I heard that some people are worried that Bezos is going to replace Whole Foods employees with robots. I don't think robot technology has advanced to the point yet where they have weirdo robots, though.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | June 21, 2017 at 03:24 PM
DNC has worst May fundraising since........
2003
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/democrats-had-the-worst-may-fundraising-since-2003/article/2626603
Posted by: Porchlight | June 21, 2017 at 03:31 PM
April was the worst since 2009
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6ilt02/guys_this_is_fing_huge_the_dnc_is_crashing_and/
Posted by: Porchlight | June 21, 2017 at 03:32 PM
Dave, go to the Manufacturing Automation show in Chicago some day. Weirdo robots aplenty. (or maybe weirdo robot sales people, I get mixed up).
Posted by: henry | June 21, 2017 at 03:32 PM
No, it's not, Dave.
And it is also of no consequence to the disgusting criminals who put them in prison, knowing that what they were accused of was not only untrue but totally impossible. They still have their jobs (or their fat and utterly undeserved taxpayer funded pensions). They still have their reputations.
At some point, we must begin to see consequences for these atrocities. We need to see prosecutors - and police, and therapists and everyone else involved in destroying the lives of innocent people - punished, and punished savagely.
Posted by: James D. | June 21, 2017 at 03:34 PM
Porchlight, it was certainly their worst fundSPENDING since 2003.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | June 21, 2017 at 03:38 PM
Stolen from an insty comment:
Toyota has issued a big recall for the Prius. They are going to pull all the "Clinton - Keane 2016" bumper stickers off and replace them with "Booker - Warren 2020" ones
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | June 21, 2017 at 03:39 PM
Jay Solomon out at WSJ for "ethics lapses" is floating about twitter. Keep an eye out.
Posted by: henry | June 21, 2017 at 03:39 PM
Seems to me if you can have Old Jewish Tailor Robots you can also have weirdo robots.
Posted by: jimmyk | June 21, 2017 at 03:43 PM
the old getting a piece of the action from a source move by Solomon. Some Iranian weapons smuggler.
Posted by: henry | June 21, 2017 at 03:48 PM
Jay Solomon out at WSJ for "ethics lapses"
I'm seeing a "breach" of some sort. I think he reported on national security issues. To be fired from WSJ it would probably have been something damaging to Dems or GOPe.
Posted by: jimmyk | June 21, 2017 at 03:49 PM
So "breach" rumors were false, or just "breach of ethics," not of security.
Posted by: jimmyk | June 21, 2017 at 03:53 PM
Cory Booker seems to the "sexy" front runner currently among the more pragmatic Dems but putting a Warren as a running partner will dilute any moderate message he may have ginned up for him. The big trouble for the Dems I see is lack of leadership, credible, trusted, believable, leadership.
You don't get that with Pelosi and/or Schumer and if they are smart they need to prep one of their remaining governors but not someone like Cuomo or Brown or Malloy. When you look at the list, only one true center-right Dem governor stands out: [Don't laugh] JIm Justice of West "by God" Virginia. McAuliffe and Inslee would be murdered by Trump but Justice can demonstrate private and public executive experience. And also like Trump he owns a big time hotel/resort complex: The Greenbrier.
Would make for an interesting match up. Just not much different between the two except I don't think Justice tweets:)
Posted by: Jim Eagle | June 21, 2017 at 03:56 PM
Jay Solomon Fired From Wall Street Journal Over Business Deal With Iranian Source
http://forward.com/fast-forward/375328/jay-solomon-fired-from-wall-street-journal-over-business-deal-with-iranian/
Posted by: RattlerGator | June 21, 2017 at 04:02 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4625692/Cob-stabbed-Bishop-Airport-Michigan.html
"FBI is investigating the incident as a 'possible act of terrorism,' sources added"
Where would you look first if you wanted to know about things at a Michigan airport?
Posted by: Pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter. | June 21, 2017 at 04:04 PM
Jack,
That is a logical solution. The problem is that 80% of their base will not vote for someone from (gasp) West Virginia.
When I see that Eric Holder is thinking about running and not one democrat has expressed even a smidgin of doubt about that, I am pretty sure they aren't going to go for Governor Justice (who actually has a cool last name).
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | June 21, 2017 at 04:04 PM
I've never heard of this "Forward" site. Taking a look around, I see Peter Beinart.
Ummmmm . . . .
Posted by: RattlerGator | June 21, 2017 at 04:06 PM
Anyone seen Zippy lately?
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/china-s-dog-meat-festival-opens-despite-ban-rumours-8964726
Posted by: jimmyk | June 21, 2017 at 04:07 PM
RG, the Forward is a leftwing Jewish paper that's been around for decades. For about 5 years it tilted conservative under Seth Lipsky, but he was pushed out, if I recall correctly.
Posted by: jimmyk | June 21, 2017 at 04:10 PM
jimmyk,
If Zippy is actually El-Zippy then dog meat is haram to him. Dog is an Asian thing especially in Thailand and China.
BTW, watching Cavuto and can someone, anyone, tell me the attraction of the gal Kennedy? I mean in an intellectual, opinion kind of way. But then Fox is still the outfit that finds Shemp, Geraldo and Rove special.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | June 21, 2017 at 04:12 PM
Correction: I was wrong. Jim Justice does tweet but probably not as controversial as Trump:)
https://twitter.com/WVGovernor
Posted by: Jim Eagle | June 21, 2017 at 04:17 PM
Three guesses and the first two don't count:
CNNVerified account @CNN
Preliminary indications are Michigan airport suspect said something in Arabic before stabbing officer, officials say
Posted by: jimmyk | June 21, 2017 at 04:28 PM
Paul Ryan has a democrat challenger already. Here's his announcment ad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6zAyPRbels
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | June 21, 2017 at 04:32 PM
Michigan airport stabber had Canadian passport. If they know that why are they withholding his name?
Posted by: DebinGA | June 21, 2017 at 04:34 PM
If they know that why are they withholding his name?
Because his name is McKenzie Mohammad al-Calgary?
Posted by: Jim Eagle | June 21, 2017 at 04:39 PM
Maybe he just found out he was Canadian and his lawyers are working on a solution.
Posted by: Ted Cruz | June 21, 2017 at 04:47 PM
TK;)
Posted by: Jim Eagle | June 21, 2017 at 04:48 PM
Not subtle enough?
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 21, 2017 at 04:52 PM
Cory Booker seems to the "sexy" front runner currently among the more pragmatic Dems but putting a Warren as a running partner will dilute any moderate message he may have ginned up for him.
Miss Bardahl could fill the slot and hope that voters have forgotten what an economic disaster she was for Michigan.
Posted by: Captain Hate | June 21, 2017 at 04:54 PM
JIB, re. "Kennedy", she's a former shock-jock sidekick and VJ who morphed into a libertarian commentator. I think she's supposed to be the younger, better looking John Stossel / Nick Gillespie. I too don't quite get the point.
And other than not looking the mid-40s she is, I'm not really getting her in the attractiveness way either Those glasses?
Posted by: Another Bob | June 21, 2017 at 04:54 PM
But the glasses must be "a thing". Kat Timpf too, who has already been covered here.
Posted by: Another Bob | June 21, 2017 at 04:55 PM
Razor @hale_razor 17m17 minutes ago
Ossoff to spend some time wandering the woods near his home, wherever that is.
Posted by: jimmyk | June 21, 2017 at 05:09 PM
MM: "I saw a list of bills passed by the House this week..."
See, one of the great lessons of the last few years is how fast the House is to pass something that sounds good knowing the Senate will do nothing with it. So I no longer give the Paul Ryan House any credit whatsoever for actually doing something. On the rare exception when they pass something that actually, you know, becomes law, then I will cheer for them. Until then...nope.
It is sort of a larger version of how hopeful I used to feel when I saw Trey Gowdy eviscerate somebody in a hearing only to see it go nowhere after the TV was turned off. Where are those Paki cyber crooks who got all the dem servers in the House, huh?
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 21, 2017 at 05:15 PM
ISIS just blew up a famous mosque in Mosul, then blamed a US air strike. It had a bent minaret that leaned. (Not like Slick, like the Tower in Piza).
Posted by: henry | June 21, 2017 at 05:17 PM
So prietap roundup the usual suspects, we'Ll they have to keep the scam going
Garrows bio of Obama is brobagdinian and yet
Shallow he does mention Ayers in a number of instance, but doesn't still address the gas.
For instance. Rezko is mentioned but his patron auchi isn't
Posted by: narciso | June 21, 2017 at 05:21 PM
And no one reacted tov isabella skorupco honestly some i dont know you people,,sarc.
Posted by: narciso | June 21, 2017 at 05:24 PM
So this will end well, right?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/21/grenfell-tower-fire-survivors-to-be-given-luxury-housing-after-inferno.html
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 21, 2017 at 05:25 PM
Azima was involved in the Clinton coffees trying to secure the fabled baku pipeline he was also an associate of Fred Thompson.
Posted by: narciso | June 21, 2017 at 05:33 PM
Razor @hale_razor 17m17 minutes ago
Ossoff to spend some time wandering the woods near his home, wherever that is.
That is hilarious!!!
Posted by: Janet the expert 🚬 | June 21, 2017 at 05:36 PM
The visit was in keeping with the low profile that the president’s son-in-law has kept, rarely speaking in public and operating largely behind the scenes.
Israeli and US officials gave no details of what was due to be discussed.
A video released by Netanyahu’s office showed the Israeli prime minister – a friend of Kushner’s father – embracing him and saying: “This is an opportunity to pursue our common goals of security, prosperity and peace.
The investigations swirling around Donald Trump – a short guide
Read more
“Jared, I welcome you here in that spirit. I know of your efforts, the president’s efforts, and I look forward to working with you to achieve these common goals.”
Kushner replied: “The president sends his best regards and it’s an honour to be here with you.”
However, journalists were prevented from even filming Kushner’s arrival at Netanyahu’s office. The Associated Press said one of its cameramen was prevented from filming the arrival of his convoy while another was ordered to delete his memory card of all images of the prime minister’s office.
Kushner was due to meet the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, later in Ramallah.
Posted by: STASI FASCIST STRATEGY | June 21, 2017 at 05:39 PM
Maybe they're learning something in the NRCC because the video in here is really good:
http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/06/21/just-savage-nrccs-video-summary-of-brutal-day-for-dems-is-glorious/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget
Posted by: Captain Hate | June 21, 2017 at 05:39 PM
539
EXCLUSIVE: Sen. Tom Cotton Intern Calls British ‘Faggots’ and Paul Ryan a ‘Cuck’ in Audio Recording
by Caleb Ecarma | 4:45 pm, June 21st, 2017
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GOP Senator Tom Cotton’s intern is not shy about spouting off incendiary comments, as the young Republican calls Speaker Paul Ryan “a cuck” and the British “faggots.”
In a recorded conversation with this reporter, Hill intern “Nate” blasted Ryan for not having a hardline immigration stance, saying “Paul Ryan is a cuck, he’s a cuck, get him out” and “Paul Ryan: cuck first and Yankee second.”
(Editor’s note – we are choosing to only use the intern’s first name just to keep his name clean from any future employer’s Google search but as is obvious from the piece, are not actively seeking to protect his identity.)
The term “cuck” originated in political spaces during 2015, as white nationalists and the far-right began calling Republicans they deemed too moderate “cuckservatives.” The word is racially charged, as “cuck” that Joan Walsh described as a pornographic genre “in which a white husband, either in shame or lust, watches his wife be taken by a black man.”
In reference to Ryan, the “cuck” slur towards him originated on alt-right and white supremacist websites. Ryan has been deemed a “cuck” from white nationalist leader Richard Spencer, neo-Nazi websites The Daily Stormer and Stormfront and alt-right pundit Mike Cernovich. Ryan even received the title “Cuck of The Year For 2016” by the Reddit page President Trump used to host an online town hall event.
This intern has a long record with the GOP, as he has worked in the Arkansas senator’s office since January, worked for the Republican Party of Kentucky and lead the Western Kentucky University College Republicans — per his Facebook page.
He continued his conversation with this reporter by saying “Americans are the superior race to everyone in the world . . . we’re superior people” — his evidence for such an assertion came from America’s wartime record. Nate then brought up the Revolutionary War during this rant and called the British “faggots” and American defector Benedict Arnold “a homoesexual.”
When it came to the Trump administration’s controversial Muslim immigration policies, the intern believes we should close the borders, saying “they say ‘we need to lax our immigration system and let more of these people in,’ fuck no!”
“Am I a bigot [towards Muslims]? I guess damn so!” Nate added.
Nate also claims that the idea of health care being a human right is “garbage” and “fundamentally wrong.”
“You will die in the streets if you are an idiot . . . we believe in Social Darwinism, the idiots will get fucked,” he said.
Additionally — though Nate has been interning in Cotton’s office for six months — he has quite a history of controversial social media posts, as he repeatedly said “fag” and “faggot” and used “gay” as a derogatory term on his public Twitter page before being hired. These Twitter rants also include the use of the slur “tranny.”
Nate has made a name for himself for his controversial and homophobic rhetoric in the halls of Congress, as this reporter heard about him from multiple Hill staffers.
Cotton is a Trump-ally who has called for a crackdown on immigration and pushed for the president’s “extreme vetting” policies of majority-Muslim countries, saying “I doubt many Arkansans or Americans more broadly object to taking a harder look at foreigners coming into our country.”
Perhaps Republicans should apply their extreme vetting policies to their intern hiring process.
Mediaite has reached out to the office of Senator Cotton. A spokesperson tells us that Nate “is no longer an intern in Senator Cotton’s office. Beyond that, I cannot comment on personnel matters.”
Posted by: Calling you Nazis is a compliment. | June 21, 2017 at 05:42 PM
ANAL POLYPS IDENTIFIED..
"After a campaign of bleating about high drug prices for Americans and how he was going to do ... things ... about that, it turns out that the team of drug industry advocates and insiders Donald Trump assigned to tackle the problem of high drug prices have come up with a draft executive order that largely scraps worrying about such things and instead focuses on giving the drug companies whatever they want.
The proposals identify some issues that have stoked public outrage — such as the high out-of-pocket costs for medicines — but it largely leaves the drug industry unscathed. In fact, the four-page document contains several proposals that have long been championed by the industry, including strengthening drugmakers’ monopoly power overseas and scaling back a federal program that requires pharmaceutical companies to give discounts to hospitals and clinics that serve low-income patients. [...]
Several of the proposals appear to reflect that industry influence. For example, the document directs the United States trade representative to conduct a study of price differences between the United States and other countries, and to review trade agreements that may need to be revised “to promote greater intellectual property protection and competition in the global market.”
The roll back of a program to ensure clinics serving low-income Americans can provide their patients with more affordable drugs is an especially nice touch. We can call it the "Screw individual poor people one-by-one" healthcare plan.
Anyhoo, it looks like that big, dramatic meeting Trump had to decide what to do about rising drug prices has—in a truly unexpected switcheroo—decided that the real problem is that drug companies have to follow too many regulations these days. For anyone who is even the slightest bit shocked at this news, smelling salts are now available for a modest (large) fee."
Posted by: Calling you Nazis is a compliment. | June 21, 2017 at 05:45 PM
So this will end well, right?
"hey Mohammed, got a lighter?"
Posted by: Buckeye | June 21, 2017 at 05:48 PM
the young Republican calls Speaker Paul Ryan “a cuck”
So?...Paul Ryan is a cuck.
Posted by: Janet the expert 🚬 | June 21, 2017 at 05:49 PM
It's pretty funny and pathetic that the pud puller thinks that anyone is reading his crap and not just SOB/KF.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | June 21, 2017 at 05:50 PM
Narciso, are you (or anyone) reading Rising Star (Garrows bio of BOzo)?
I've been looking at the review in Politico. It claims:
Fisher, Obama’s Harvard Law School buddy and frequent collaborator, was considerably more involved in conceiving and shaping the book than has been previously known.
I'd like to see his proof, til then I'll go with Cashill.
Posted by: Ralph L | June 21, 2017 at 05:50 PM
Dems voted for a known lying creep from Arkansas twice--so no problem with WV, if he went to the right schools. They just assume inbreeding occurred.
Posted by: Ralph L | June 21, 2017 at 05:52 PM
I skimmed it, it is war and piece long, without the depth of the story of the karagins
Posted by: narciso | June 21, 2017 at 05:52 PM
Had to google that one, Janet.
"Cuckservative", often shortened to cuck, is a recently coined term of abuse formed as a combination of the word cuckold and the political designation conservative. It has become an increasingly popular pejorative label used among alt-right supporters in the United States."
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 21, 2017 at 05:55 PM
Why do i say this, because the subterfuge of how he disqualified his opponents in 95, isnr elaborated on for instance.
Posted by: narciso | June 21, 2017 at 05:56 PM
BTW, when Narc says he "skimmed" something, I have found that means he just memorized it all except the index.
Posted by: Old Lurker | June 21, 2017 at 05:56 PM
Her, I did atypical search, many trees gave their lives for this tired volume.
Posted by: narciso | June 21, 2017 at 05:58 PM
HS friend on FB:
Ossoff, with zero real experience, ran as a Democrat on the platform of "Washington spends too much money and I'm going to make them stop!" Seriously, who believes that any congressperson is going to stop spending money? And, who believes that an elected Democrat, even if he really did want to cut spending, would get very far in his party on that agenda. I got hit by Jon Ossoff signs, mailed ads to my house, ads on all social media including commercials in the middle of listening to music on Pandora. I wouldn't have voted for Ossoff, if for no other reason than the bombardment of ads made me sick to my stomach and want to puke.
Posted by: Stephanie despicable me | June 21, 2017 at 06:03 PM
It is sort of a larger version of how hopeful I used to feel when I saw Trey Gowdy eviscerate somebody in a hearing only to see it go nowhere after the TV was turned off.
Here is Gowdy-doody letting Jehhhhh have it:
https://youtu.be/E5NEQrzNyTY
1st thing I noticed is that one of the Awan bros is sitting behind Gowdy. I thought he knew nothing about any of that. HEE-YUCK
Secondly, Jehhhhh's assistant seem to be amused at the whole dog and pony show.
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 21, 2017 at 06:04 PM