Don't Get Shot

A comical blend of common sense and BS from yesterday's failing NY Times. The author's gist - don't get shot, and especially, don't get shot by an assault bullet. (That's a bullet fired from an assault rifle, don'cha know?):

What Bullets Do to Bodies

By LEANA WEN            JUNE 15, 2017

...

Early in my medical training, I learned that it is not the bullet that kills you, but the path the bullet takes. A non-expanding (or full-metal-jacket) bullet often enters the body in a straight line. Like a knife, it damages the organs and tissues directly in its path, and then it either exits the body or, if it is traveling at a slower velocity, is stopped by bone, tissue or skin.

This is in contrast to expanding bullets, especially if shot from an assault rifle, which can discharge bullets much faster than a handgun. Once they enter the body, they fragment and explode, pulverizing bones, tearing blood vessels and liquefying organs.

...

On Wednesday, four people were shot in Northern Virginia, including Representative Steve Scalise of Louisiana, who remains in critical condition from a gunshot wound to the hip. A bullet to the hip is less likely to be deadly than a shot to the head. Unfortunately, the shooter in Virginia reportedly used a semiautomatic assault rifle. I once treated a patient shot in the pelvis with a similar weapon. The bullet shattered the hipbone into hundreds of pieces. It shredded the femoral artery, causing life-threatening bleeding and destroyed whole portions of the bowel and bladder.

This was the kind of damage inflicted upon victims of the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando and other mass shootings including Newtown, San Bernardino and Aurora. Trauma doctors and nurses who treated patients in these tragedies, and medical examiners who investigated the aftermath, all commented on the unbelievable devastation resulting from the bullet wounds. Indeed, this is the intended consequence of assault rifles. When they discharge expanding bullets, the bullets don’t follow a straight line through the body; they fragment and explode, destroying as much living tissue as possible.

A certain "Why bother?" feeling settles over me when the Times runs howlers like this. Yes, rifles can deliver a higher speed, more powerful bullet and yes, deerhunters and the like will be encouraged to use fragmenting bullets to have a better chance of a quick kill. In fact, the Hague Declaration of 1899 bans the use of easily fragmenting bullets. From a military perspective this is not absurd since a wounded enemy consumes more opposition resources than a corpse. In any case, one might conclude it is better to be shot by a soldier than a hunter.

But as to whether the rifle is a semi-automatic or bolt-operated? Please.

So just what does this passage mean?

Indeed, this is the intended consequence of assault rifles. When they discharge expanding bullets, the bullets don’t follow a straight line through the body; they fragment and explode, destroying as much living tissue as possible.

First, "assault rifles" used in actual war ought not to be using banned fragmenting bullets on human targets. Secondly, what, one wonders, is the intended consequence of hunting rifles?

Key takeaway - don't get shot.

 

Comments

[henry]

1099 is both a post number and IRS form.

[Captain Hate]

My father couldn't stand the retro PT Cruiser

I kind of liked them because they reminded me of the late 40s Ford Anglias that used to run at the dragstrips in the late 60s.

[Dave (in MA)]

I end up driving my wife's handed down old cars, and before the '04 Volvo I'm driving now I was driving an '02 PT Cruiser. I liked being able to remove the rear seats and get a small panel truck to run to Home Depot with.

[henry]

Hmmm. JiB and O both missed. Oh well.

Kevlar did say he was going away for 9 days to revive his spirit and health via diet and various purification rites. After that he closed his Typepad account.

If he chooses to share beyond that, I will relay. From the email I received, he is sincere and not in conflict with people here.

[Momto2]

It was almost strange how MeAgain's downward spiral was visible as her personal appearance changed.

She went from an attractive, nice "girl-next-door" type to a sharp, angular,"mean girl" type.

[Clarice Feldman]

This will blow your stack:http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-obama-nsc-advisor-susan-rices-unmasking-material-obama-library/

[Free James D!]

The takeaway from him should be don't go to a hell hole like North Korea

I simply cannot understand it.

People can make dumb, dangerous choices - teens and clllege students especially. But you have to go through so many steps to travel to NK. Sign up with the tour company, get your passport, get a visa, get a plane ticket, and a dozen more things. And at each step there are massive flashing neon warning signs and deafening alarm bells.

You can back out at any of these steps, and it's impossible for me to see how anyone with even the tiniest shred of self-preservation and sanity can ignore all the warnings and actually get on the plane,

[henry]

Clarice, sounds like Nixon should have sent his tapes to his library in late '72. No one would have complained. /sarc

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

James D.,

I cannot even figure out why one would want to go to North Korea. What landmarks are there? What natural wonders? Cuisine? Art?

To me it is just a big gray prison camp. Not interested, even if it was an all-expenses paid thing.

[Clarice Feldman]

The President should sign an executive order waiving the application of the presidential records act for anything sent to the Obama library which federal law enforcement officers seek--

[Jim Eagle]

Then, of course, there is the recruit's first trip angle, JamesD.

UVA is prime hunting ground for the "firm". Evidently, Stan Hurley didn't show him how to survive a Nork beating and live.

[Ralph L]

That's probably why the Norks think every Westerner is a spy--why else would they come?

[Momto2]

When you think about it - how many teenagers/young adults have traveled to these God-forsaken places with horrible outcomes?

Kayla Meuller - Iraq
Dahlia Yehia - Nepal
Otto Warmbler - N. Korea

I'm sure there are others...

[Janet the expert 🚬]

It takes YEARS to get documents about the IRS & Benghazi & F&F & SoS Clintn, & ....

...but Susan Rice documents are collected & off to Obama's library as quick as can be.

No lollygagin' with THOSE.

[Momto2]

The "tour company" in China that took Otto to N. Korea advertises, "budget travel to destinations your mother would rather you stayed away from."

- Gee whiz - what an old stick-in-the-mud those mothers are!!!

[Jim Eagle]

Maybe he went to play a round of golf?

http://www.earthnutshell.com/out-of-bounds-in-north-korea-pyongyang-golf-course/

You need to read this for some interesting takes on the whole dungeon called North Korea. The guy is Australian not American and that maybe why he got away with so much.

[Jim Eagle]

Momto2,

How can you forget Rachel Corrie, one of the Left's "Doctor of the Church" Saints.

[Clarice Feldman]

Wambier had earlier traveled to Israel and probably had an Israeli stamp in his passport. The paranoid NOKOS probably pegged him for a spy which is shy they arrested him. when they didn't get the answers they anticipated they suffocated him. That's my theory.

[Threadkiller]

No lollygagin' with THOSE.

Yep. And it took about 3 seconds for the Secret Service to respond to the FOIA regarding Trump's "tapes" tweet.

[lurkersusie]

Here is the DOJ memorandum I dug up, which concluded that a sitting president cannot be indicted…
MARK LEVIN·MONDAY, JUNE 19, 2017
Thus, this entire preposterous discussion about whether Trump obstructed justice (which he did not) is entirely irrelevant for criminal investigative purposes.
https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/blaw/olc/sitting_president.htm
https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/blaw/olc/sitting_president.htm

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

If anyone has Amazon Prime, Please check if a book is available? I'm looking for "Broken Trust" or "Deadly Assets" by W.E.B. Griffin.
Thanks in Advance

[lurkersusie]

He's back

Nate Silver @NateSilver538

Georgia 6 now looking more like a pure 50/50 toss-up, instead of a slight Ossoff edge.
(((Harry Enten))) @ForecasterEnten
This is the first legit poll that has Handel ahead in over a month. Has her up 2. (link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4lhKxf9pMitSUE2X2ItLWhoYVU/view) drive.google.com/file/d/0B4lhKx…

[sbw]

I don’t expect Kev mistook the SOB long posts to apply to his posts. I certainly realized the long-post SOB applied to trolls.

[Clarice Feldman]

*Why they arrested hi*

[Momto2]

pagar - both are available -both are eligible for Prime free shipping

https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Trust-Badge-W-E-B-Griffin/dp/0515155675/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1497918489&sr=8-4&keywords=w.e.b+griffin+books

https://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Assets-Badge-W-E-B-Griffin/dp/0515155446/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1497918530&sr=8-7&keywords=w.e.b+griffin+books

[sbw]

"Broken Trust" or "Deadly Assets" by W.E.B. Griffin.

Both are available on Amazon.

[sbw]

Momto2, yer purdy fast!

[Jim Eagle]

pagar,

Both available on Amazon.

I know Bill Butterworth from my time in Argentina. Quite the raconteur and gentleman. Loves his whiskey and cigars. HIs son does all the work now.

[Clarice Feldman]

pagar "Broken Trust" and "deadly Assets" are available on Amazon.

[Jim Eagle]

Geez. Nothing like knowing if you are drowning there are plenty of lifeguards on JOM to save you:)

[jimmyk]

I'm sure there are others...

Wasn't there a whole group of young hikers who get arrested in Iran (I think) after allegedly crossing its border, maybe from Turkey? I presume they got released at some point, and there was some doubt whether they really crossed the border, but still... What's the point?

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

Thanks every one. What I'm trying to find out is whether the books are on the Amazon Prime part of the site. If I can get them there for free, I'll sign up for Amazon Prime?

[narciso]

My late Philly and Miami cop friend told that many of the characters like Matt Payne were based on real life characters, he never dud around to telling me who they were.

His last two series, the by order of the president and the top secret series are a little more farcical, they read like mash in the early days of what would become the CIA in Berlin, officially it was the cig since they are set in 1946.

[Jim Eagle]

pagar,

I don't think that is how Prime works. You pay for Prime and you get expedited shipping. The books won't be free. I pay $99 a year for Prime but I use it for more than books.

[glenda]

Clarice, exactly ....and if any member of Congress ---starting tomorrow, that have a desire to remain in office--need to subpoena every single Obama administration employee, w authority to " unmask".

Call every single one to stand before the American people, hold their right hand up, and SWEAR to tell the Truth, nothing but the Truth. Have the record show every bead of sweat, shift of their eyes, etc , while claiming the 5th amendment--or "Presidential privilege ".

It will destroy all credibility to the"but...but...it's allowed" for me, but not for thee Trump witch hunt. Must-See TV for Soros sheep

Comey is on tape, swearing an oath, numerous times --just this year--that rebuts almost everything he rushed to leak , disgruntled terminated employee --seeking retribution for his lies, because his lies are exempt....and elite guys lie and make me believe Trump lies, ok?
He even paid a guy to lie about lies about Trump lying to lie to a FISA judge, to lie about campaign lying to lie to leakers, lying to cover for the liars who lie to protect Obama's legacy of lying about his lying about even a smidgen of lying corruption...

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

JiB, are you saying you don't get to read the books on the Prime site , your only gain is the free shipping?

[Clarice Feldman]

Go and take a look, Pagar--the books are in several formats. You don't have to be a prime member to buy them--just to avoid shipping fees. If they are in kindle versions and you have a kindle there's no delivery fee for anyone I think.

[Barbara]

Pagar,

To get access to the free books, you have to sign up for Kindle Unlimited. That costs about $10.00 per month.

If they have the titles you might be interested in, it would be worth it. I like it because I'm able to find new authors as well as new books.

[narciso]

Yes that's it pager, do you agree with me about varela and that the way he seems tie have sandbagged martinelli. Who is protaiwan and anti Castro.

[Ralph L]

I know Bill Butterworth from my time in Argentina.
Was his wife with him?

[Captain Hate]

Yes, jimmyk, I remember that.

Speaking of Amazon Prime, has anybody watched Red Oaks? JPod, despite, or maybe because of, being an unlikeable prick is a very good film reviewer (or maybe his tastes dovetail with mine) recommended the series highly. So I'm looking for more opinions.

I watched part of the DVD of the Wrecking Crew last night. First of all I had no idea there were so many of them. Didn't know Leon Russell was one of em and sure didn't recognize him (plus he didn't look in particularly good shape when it was filmed explaining his subsequent demise). Also didn't know they backed up lots of non rock acts.

[Barbara]

Also, you are limited to 10 books at a time. You can turn in or return a book at any time and replace it with a new one.

The Prime feature works a little differently. I've used it, but am not as familiar with just how it works. Your access to free books is more limited.

[narciso]

If I remember correctly his first wife passed away in 2003, their courtship in somewhat relayed in the hunting party, all names have been changed to protect the unwary

www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Teens-Death-Will-Not-Be-Investigated-as-Hate-Crime-Police-429397013.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand

[Jack is Back!]

pagar,

Sorry, thought you weren't a Prime user only thinking about joining. Yes I know about free reading but I always buy dead tree for my library to pass on to Frederick.

[Clarice Feldman]

pagar, you can download a free kindle app there and read it even without a kindle on your computer:et the Kindle App
Enter your mobile number or email address below and we'll send you a link to download the free Kindle App. Then you can start reading Kindle books on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required.

[Frau Steingehirn]

I call hiding vital national security information in Obama's Preezy Papers an in-our-face obstruction of justice. Too big to jail?

If Donald Trump had not won the election, the unmasking of Americans would have never come to light or deemed a nutter's conspiracy theory.

[narciso]

So another narrative down the the drain.

The mash parallels are not an accident since he cowrote a series of standalone novels with the creator Richard Booker in the 70s

[narciso]

It's the canary that doesn't sing frau? The story the deep state listserve by the way the site that revealed it dissapeared like the city of tanis in raiders.

[Barbara]

How much do you want to bet that the GOPe has known about those files going to the Obama "Library" all along?

[narciso]

So the Paris driver is apparently Adam d, he was on the dangerous list 's fiche' but still held a gun permit ala the paintgun ring tied to the al hijra mosque.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 49m49 minutes ago

Big day tomorrow in Georgia and South Carolina. ObamaCare is dead. Dems want to raise taxes big! They can only obstruct, no ideas. Vote "R"

5,849 replies 6,111 retweets 20,197 likes

[sammy small]

Neither the acts against American citizens committed by the Obama administration nor the lawbreaking committed by the Clinton crime syndicate will ever be punished as long as the Swamp is composed of 95% demorats and the other 5% the GOPe.

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

"If they have the titles you might be interested in, it would be worth it."Thanks Barbara, that is what I'm looking for. Is Kindle Unlimited different than Prime?
Clarice, thanks, I have thousands of books (95% free on my various Kindles. I'm just trying to get books that I really want to read but don't want to pay for. The cost of Amazon Prime could be justified if I could get books that I would be otherwise pay for.
Jib, Thanks, My wife put her foot down when my book shelves started to expand over 800 hardbacks and paperbacks. I've gotten them down to 400 hundred but seem to be stalled getting rid of more.
Thanks to everyone for your help.

[narciso]

Well al hijra hasn't been troublesome until the whole fgm business.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/19/finsbury-park-mosque-radical-hotbed-transformed-model-community/amp/

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

narciso, I'm comflicted over the whole thing.
Guess we'll see tomorrow how the next saga goes. I find it hard to believe that there isn't some connections that we are missing between the two.

[Ralph L]

I got 30 days of Prime for free.

[narciso]

Perhaps you noticed how the panama papers no longer was a story when tbe wring people got caught in the net, like these:

http://panampost.com/

[Stephanie despicable me]

Kindle unlimited review from the WaPo.

Take it for what it is worth from them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/07/18/is-kindle-unlimited-worth-it/?utm_term=.8f83bd26db5b

I have it. Not all books are available on the unlimited plan. I'm going to get rid of it though as I thought the hubs would like it and he seldom downloads a book anymore due to work.

I also have prime which I like for the free shipping, subscriptions shipping, and for the free videos on the Fire stick. THAT is worth it alone. I"m on a first name basis with both FedEx and UPS drivers in my area.. daily deliveries of something or other.

[Momto2]

Ok, pagar, now that I understand I tried to search Kindle Unlimited but cannot since I am not a member. Not all of the Kindle books are available through Unlimited. Maybe Barbara or Clarice or someone who belongs has the ability to search within Unlimited to make sure before you sign up. I do think there is a 30 day free trial.

[narciso]

It,seems they have a more sober perspective in india

https://www.google.com/amp/indianexpress.com/article/research/london-mosque-attack-finsbury-park-mosque-abu-hamza-and-the-growth-of-islamic-extremism-in-britain/lite/

Just like it didn't stop with awlaki, although other places like dilsbury and that other locations took up the slack.

[Momto2]

Me, too, Stephanie! My prime membership is worth its weight in gold around Christmas.

Because I never watch TV, I also enjoy the free Prime movies and some TV series. Even if it isn't free - we sometimes pop our own popcorn, pay $5 or $6 and watch a fairly new movie. Sure is cheaper than going to the theatre (and we can wear our pj's and hold our puppy!)

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

Thanks Stephanie and Monto2. I've learned a lot.

[narciso]

So salon and that outgrowth from the dsily show removed all doubt when warmbier was first detained.

One wonders if they would have learned s lesson if shahzsd had succeeded a little over seven years ago?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4617240/Cats-owe-playful-nature-Egyptians.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

They have traced cat DNA.

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

JiB, I do envy your time with W.E.B. Griffin.
narciso, it is very easy for me to find subjects like Matt that I think are true life characters. That is one of the reasons I like series from the same author.

[narciso]

I read his latter ones first but I've finally gotten around to his origin, my friend came from the other side of the tracks quite opposite the very privileged world of the paynes and co.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Nytol!

[narciso]

Its hard to find a greater hive of scum and villainy

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2017/06/19/flashback-comedy-central-huffpo-mocked-capture-otto-warmbier

I imagine their eye ducts dry up over some poor gitmo lad

[narciso]

Their learning curve is a null set

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/18/germany-says-100-million-african-refugees-could-head-north/

[jimmyk]

Its hard to find a greater hive of scum and villainy

The list is long: Salon did something similar, as did Comedy Central.

[narciso]

It's just another head from the same beast,like cerberus.

[narciso]

I really got caught up in the honor hound series about cletus fredes adventures in Argentina and Germany, which use other elements from his later years telescopes back to the time of his youth.

[Stephanie despicable me]

I have two Regalo baby gates slated for delivery tomorrow. :)

I have one, and I love it, so I am replacing another old style and adding one to the bottom of the stairs. The Regalos have a door in them so you don't end up climbing over it every time you go from one room to another. The one for the bottom of the stairs actually attaches to the Newel post and the wall. Only gate I know of that does that.

Right now the pups can get through the gates even when closed, but the bigger dogs can't. In another week they will all be too big to get through the slats in the gates as well.

I order my dog food on the subscription plan plus shampoo and laundry detergent and stuff that you buy regularly. Each gets an extra 5% discount and every 4 gets you another IIRC 15% savings.

Another money savings tip:

If you shop Kroger and you eat out fairly regularly, buy the gift cards for restaurants and use them when you go out to dinner. Anything from McDs to Flemings Dunkin Donuts to Bonefish Grill... if you are going out anyways take advantage and get the gift cards. It's 2x fuel points and sometimes 4x fuel points for the gift card purchases. I filled up the Escape for $1.05 a gallon today after getting a buck off for the fuel points. I carry about 6-8 cards in my wallet and can go to McDs, Burger King, Chick fil A, Chilis, Bonefish, Longhorn, Bonefish, Flemings, or Olive Garden and the meal is already paid for. Also, if you get the gift cards with multiple restaurants on them Olive Garden, Red Lobster, Bahama Breeze and few others on the same gift card owned by that parent company (Darden??) , you aren't limited with your choice of where to eat.

PSA for the day...

[glasater]

Only about 6 pages behind..

Miss M,

I hope glasater sees that article! It's really funny!

Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | June 18, 2017 at 09:10 AM

Thank you for that terrific link on bad RE photos. Those pictures are dandies..

Another Bub some time ago shared a link of an Oahu listing in her relative neighborhood that was a tear down for several million dollars. The photos were outrageously bad.. :-)

[narciso]

Heh Steph I don't really have a place where it would work to put the gates for yogi, he was very quiet today till came home, then his energized battery was fully charged.

[narciso]

Seriously, what were they thinking blaster, we'Ll apparently not much.

[Skoot]

Have the Russians hacked the GA 6th yet?

[Neo]

Questioner: Is that your crash helmet?
Jose: I sure hope not.

Comedian Bill Dana, Who Played the Character Jose Jimenez, Dies at 92

[Momto2]

Goodnight everyone!

[caro]

Pager, I recommend Overdrive. You register your local library card # and get books sent to your Kindle or audio books to another device to play when you want in your car or wherever. They disappear after two weeks just like a library book. All free. A friend or family member in the states could probably lend you a library card number. Yes, all free.

[narciso]

Stem as usual is more than I can ever be:

https://www.steynonline.com/7933/action-and-reaction

[narciso]

Yes that's probably true, clarice, but the bamboo archipelagi is as little interest as the other dozen detention facilities other than gitmo in cuba.

[narciso]

The top links tells what none of the fishwrap do:

http://www.babalublog.com/

[RattlerGator]

Today was my 58th -- and what a weird, weird day it was here at JOM. Kev signs out, national records shifted to the Obama Library, who knows what next.

[Clarice Feldman]

Happy Nirthday,and many,many more. The library thing is really the shizzle--what are the odds that that took place right after comey was fired and no longer there to block access to them?

[Clarice Feldman]

*Birthday*

[narciso]

Happy birthday rattler, itceeally does feel like a they live script some days.

[Clarice Feldman]

Nytol.

[DrJ]

I do hope you had a wonderful day, RG. You young 'un!

[Captain Hate]

Its hard to find a greater hive of scum and villainy

That was difficult to read. No wonder so many dipshit comedians kill themselves; because they can't figure out how to laugh at what they see in the mirror. Fuck the lot of 'em.

The documentary of The Wrecking Crew was really really good. I just didn't realize that the bunch of them eventually ran out of work starting with the singer/songwriter things of bringing a fully arranged working group in the studios in the 70s. I remember the first time I heard the phrase, around when Carole King started making her own records, and thought "WTF does that phrase mean; do they think traveling troubadour sounds too baroque?" Now many years later I get it.

[Captain Hate]

I had no idea RG was such a young sprout.

[RattlerGator]

Ha! Old enough, CH, definitely old enough. Thanks Clarice / narciso / DrJ.

Now, in honor of Kevlar Kid, I think I shall drink a glass of water with a splash of magnesium and retire for the evening.

Later, Gators.

[Captain Hate]

Bill Dana wasn't a dipshit comedian but I had no idea he was still alive. He was definitely old school comedy like Red Skeleton and Jonathan Winters appearing on shows like Ed Sullivan or Martha Raye.

RIP of course.

[Captain Hate]

Red Skelton

[rich]

>>>Today was my 58th -- and what a weird, weird day it was here at JOM. Kev signs out, national records shifted to the Obama Library, who knows what next.

Posted by: RattlerGator | June 19, 2017 at 11:59 PM<<<

Happy Birthday!

Orange Blue

[simply stupid]

Why did judicial watch wait until June 19 to release the letter dated May 23. Everyone is playing to their narrative and I still think Trump holds most of the cards in any upcoming plots.

[Captain Hate]

I hope all is well with KK because I'd like to meet up with him next time I'm in Santa Cruz, whenever that is, and walking through Berkeley shouting his name probably wouldn't have a good success rate.

Nytol.

[rich]

Posted by: simply stupid | June 20, 2017 at 12:33 AM

it was when they got it?

[SusieOH]

Pagar,
I am a very infrequent poster (but a long-time lurker) and I wanted to respond to your book question.
If you have a library card check out whether it allows you access to the Digital Downloads Collaboration. You sign in with your library card (number and password) and can sign out Kindle Books, Overdrive Books and audio books for up to three weeks. I only use it for Kindle books - once you check out the book you download it from the Amazon site. The book automatically is returned at the end of the sign out period. No late fees!
I can only see libraries that participate in my area - the website must use the IP address to figure out which libraries you can access in your locality. Both of the Griffin books are included in the collection.
The web address is digitalbooks.moldi.org or clc.overdrive.com
Hope this works for you!

[rich]

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