A Fine Day For The Irish

I'm arriving late to this Fake News but Snopes describes a fine day for the Irish. Also a fine day for the Nigerians, but for the media, less so. Snopes did a mass debunking of the mass media, described at PJ Media:

In an example of "Trump the Buffoon," Daily Kos, BuzzFeed, The Root, Stephen Colbert and others spread a false narrative about a poem President Trump recited while in Ireland.

In March, Ireland’s Taoiseach (Prime Minister) Enda Kenny came to the White House for a traditional St Patrick’s Day visit with the sitting President. During a speech, Trump recited a verse:

As we stand together with our Irish friends, I’m reminded of that proverb — and this is a good one, this is one I like, I’ve heard it for many, many years and I love it:

“Always remember to forget the friends that proved untrue, but never forget to remember those that have stuck by you.”

The response was huge. Almost instantly, Trump was mocked for citing as an Irish proverb a poem written by a Nigerian man. The Daily Kos web site wrote:

Uh uh, no spoilers here! The PJ Media story picks up part-way down.

Comments

[henry]

The Nigerian teammate of mine always claimed he was Irish.

[Porchlight]

Good story at PJ Media. Thanks, TM.

[Buford Gooch]

When Snopes is calling BS on the Leftstream media, they are in serious trouble.

[Captain Hate]

Colbert being an idiot? Must be a day ending in "y". Brilliant move, CBS, in replacing one unfunny dicknose with another in that time slot. Good luck catering to high end sponsors for it since the dumbasses watching that garbage are some of the cheapest bastards you'll ever find.

Thanks for the feedback on my dryer woes; according to the Whirlpool rep we got it in 2003, which sounds off BWTFDIK. Anyway, I think I'll get off a lot less expensively than I feared.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6m6 minutes ago

Most politicians would have gone to a meeting like the one Don jr attended in order to get info on an opponent. That's politics!

===========================================

I am now convinced that the research that I have seen on line by that 0hour guy is correct, and that ALL of the people in that meeting with the exception of Jared, Manafort and Don Jr. were Clinton or Obama people.

I think Trump knew this almost from the beginning.

The plot thickens.

[narciso]

Yes there are Harkonnen at the dinner table:

https://mobile.twitter.com/dmartosko/status/886699918743805952

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/07/17/desantis-suggests-obama-national-security-official-needs-to-be-investigated-n2355863?utm_campaign=townhallcom_twitter&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

I have a question. Why are any of the National Security Council people Obama holdovers? I do not understand how that organization works so I cannot get aggravated until I understand why these people are still there.

[Jim Eagle]

Back in the early 90's (25 years ago), I was driving from Dublin to Lahinch for my first round of golf there when I passed through the market town of Ennistymon, County Clare. Outside of town on the Lahinch Road I came across a large 8 story high rise apartment that looked out of place in that part of Ireland.

What was more striking was it appeared to be occupied by a large number of Africans from the look of their robes and headresses. Later I found out that they were Nigerian refugees who the Irish were resettling. During my many visits to Dublin on business I got to know a few who were working as engineers and financial guys on the LUAS light rail project. All naturalized.

Today, the Taoiseach (PM) of Ireland is a gay Hindu Indian first born Irishman. If I am Trump, next year, he should recite the famous Hindi proverb:

घर का भेदी लंका ढाए
Hinglish: Ghar ka bhedi, lanka dhayey.

Meaning: It is the insider who is dangerous and leaks secretive information to help out your enemies

[narciso]

Because McMaster wants it that way,

Did you recall the name,of the network:

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/how-an-editor-allegedly-used-vice-canada-to-recruit-drug-mules-for-a-global-smuggling-ring/wcm/9f2457ae-c00e-45bf-81c0-4dc01127be42/amp

[Jim Eagle]

I have enter into many a discussion on this very topic because my Mother always served her apple pie with a slice of cheddar. My Belgian wife is aghast when I eat it this way but then I feel the same way about how they eat waffles and fries.

http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/cheese-apple-pie?utm_source=Atlas+Obscura+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=a9bf8f8349-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_07_17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f36db9c480-a9bf8f8349-66184937&ct=t(Newsletter_7_17_2017)&mc_cid=a9bf8f8349&mc_eid=d27e03f7b2

[Ralph L]

I opened up my dryer last month to replace the drum seal. There was a ton of lint inside past the filter but before the hose, and I don't do that much laundry. Now the tumbling doesn't stop.

[Clarice Feldman]

wictor's source was wrong:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN1A10Q9

[Buckeye]

JiB

I am strongly in the camp that apple pie should have vanilla ice cream on top, lots of ice cream.

That helps explain why I have been dieting for the last 4 months.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jack,

I was following the article until it said that apple pies weren't sweet until the advent of the Red Delicious apple.

In my entire life I have never seen an apple pie made with Red delicious. They are terrible cooking apples and turn to a flavorless mush when baked. I use Jonathan or McIntosh, both f which have a sweet-tart flavor when cooked.

My grandmother had a couple of apple trees which produced small, greenish apples with a hint of blush and which she simply referred to as "cooking apples." She used them both for pies and applesauce.

Also, I have never seen cheese served with pie at any place around here. It must be more in the part of the Midwest like Wisconsin. Good cheddar is pretty pricey here and most people would think adding it to a dessert to be a waste.

[glasater]

Secret service vetting visitors is something I couldn't 'buy' either.

If that had taken place in Obummer's WH they wouldn't have had time protecting the guy what with all the sketchy characters showing up.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cnn-dissed-at-trumps-us-womens-open-is-clinton-news-network-here/article/2628809

[rich]

morning all.

[Ralph L]

small, greenish apples with a hint of blush
I think those are from the root stock they use for fancy grafted trees.
Who would want a pie made with sweet apples? It's like brown sugar on sweet potatoes. Overdose!

[Buckeye]

Who would want a pie made with sweet apples? It's like brown sugar on sweet potatoes. Overdose!

Another reason I have been on a diet :)

[rich]

a diet ... what's that?

[sbwaters]

What you say about CBO may be true, but they score what they're asked to score.

Of course, but how they score it is the CBO’s decision.
--They could use dynamic scoring for economic issues even if they include static scoring,too.
--They could distinguish between those leaving the health insurance market by choice from those “forced” to leave and they could point out how many left under Obamacare and not blame it on the newly proposed plan.

I’m as cynical about the CBO as I am about the #MSM.

[narciso]

It's scary he was at apex of so called intelligence

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/paul-pillar/tillersons-frustrations-21539?page=2

[sbwaters]

Cynical? This is what I wrote AP this morning:

I despair that AP will ever learn, or even cares to do so. Perhaps rather than correcting AP articles we should add at the end what it is that AP tried to do so that readers will understand what they would have been fed.

Imagine if we added:
“The AP called the proposed coverage ‘skimpy’ when in fact it was designed specifically to cover severe and high cost health problems that could otherwise bankrupt subscribers. We have corrected the error and apologize for our wire service.”

Or we could say:
“The AP mistakenly fed readers the Bifurcation Fallacy — presenting only two alternatives when others exist. AP essentially tells readersTrump meant that all manufacturing had to be done in the United States or all had to be done abroad when readers know that is obviously not the case. We have corrected the error and apologize for our wire service.”

[Buford Gooch]

It looks like cheese on apple pie is mostly a Northeast US thing.

[Buford Gooch]

Speaking of diets, I'm currently on two of them. I never got enough to eat on just one.

[James D.]

It's like brown sugar on sweet potatoes.

And the problem with that is what, exactly?

[rich]

Trump got a detail sometime in November '15 and some of his family did as well (think they all have a detail of some sort at this point).

As far as the meeting goes-the "former Russian intelligence agent" is a US citizen (and denies and doesn't deny he was one, and seems to be well known in DC journalist circles ... sort of like Plame) and the Russian lawyer was invited into the country by Obama's own AG. So the meeting was the source of the first FISA warrant?

I'm also getting lost in the weeds-if adoptions were their issue, why weren't they lobbying the Russian government? It was the Russian government that instituted the ban, not the US?

[Porchlight]

Red Delicious are anything but delicious. :)

Cheese with apple pie is definitely a Northeast thing.

[Ralph L]

Coals to Newcastle

[rich]

>>>And the problem with that is what, exactly?

Posted by: James D. | July 17, 2017 at 11:39 AM<<<

I know, right.

[Account Deleted]

Back in Berkeley after filming an "anthem" video for our latest venture--- virtual travel agencies.

Was hot as stink down in LA. We were quartered in Echo Park on Park Drive, a lovely LA classic street that butts against Elysian Park. The house sits two ridge lines away from Chavez Ravine and Dodger Stadium.

Steely Dan, The Doobie Brothers, and the Freyless Eagles held a concert at the stadium Saturday night. My Beats headset cancelled them out. The only number I caught was Joe Walsh's ditty about the City.

At any rate, glad to be back. Saw the near final product early this morning. Our production team moved heaven and earth to get er dun. It features Mrs. Kid.

In efforts to protect anonymity here on JOM I thought I'd send a link for the video when we've been given permish to release, through the JOM email grapevine.

At any rate, it feels great to be inspired and to move ahead with a creative concept, and within a span of 3 weeks, have an excellent final product ready to take the world by storm. It's just that flippin good. You'll see.

With all of this gridlock in DC these days--- and the rancid, brackish swill of the swamp taking center stage---- I am refreshed to continue marching on while those lay-moz consume each other's gas.

Someone mentioned the other day that some of us here on JOM don't seem concerned about what's presently consuming the news cycles (it wasn't an allegation--- as I took it anyway).

I'm not anymore. The nonsense might have grave consequences for our country--- but until it does, I am falling back on prayer, creative pursuits, wealth-building rewards, and fellowship such as what we're enjoying here on JOM.

Have a more than amazing week, JOMbreros y JOMbreras (sorry I was in Mexico City North for 4 days and my spanglish is still kicked in...ugh....we got big problemas ;)

Kev Hidalgo

[Davod]

.Opera Browser. The other day someone mentioned the Opera browser. I believe it was mentioned as an alternative to the normal browsers, and because it also came with a VPN.

I was reading up on it and discovered that the Norwegian company has been taken over by a Chinese company. Would this be an issue with moving over to Opera and the VPN?

[henry]

NBC pimping Universal Basic Income. Think we can get the fat Kim to nuke the UN while it holds a UBI conference?

[Exdemocrat]

Rich - I assume she was lobbying for repeal of the Magnitsky Act, which is what provoked Bad' adoption ban (apparently).

[Dave (in MA)]

Cheese with apple pie is definitely a Northeast thing.

Never had it.

[Marlene]

I've never had cheese on apple pie. A big scoop of vanilla ice cream,of course. When I think of all the apple pies made by my grandmother,mother,aunts and one of my brothers,who makes a delicious apple pie...no cheese on any apple pies.

[maryrose]

Check Home Depot or Lowe's for a new dryer Captain.

[Account Deleted]

Had cheddar cheese made at the Pleasanton CA cheese factory on a slice of Ma Kid's appo pie when I was six.

Din't make sense. No taste buds for the salt and sweet thing.

West coast-east coast not sure. Maybe Pa Kid had traveled east of the Mississippi during his FAA travels and picked up on it.

Never caught on at Chez Kid.

[Stephanie Puppy Pincushion extraordinaire]

My dad eats cheddar on his apple pie. South Georgia native, so ?? as to locational preferences.

[Ralph L]

It's the Illuminati.

[henry]

My grandparents had cheese on their apple pie. I have had it both with ice cream and cheese. Its all good.

[Account Deleted]

While making a pit stop traveling home, we passed through the infamous "Grapvine" on I-5.

The convenience mart had FOX News playing.

Marie HARF HARF HARF HARF was on as a "foreign policy expert". What a vacuous future cadaver.

Harf is obviously trying to wallpaper over the gaping holes in "the Iran Deal" (now infamously referred to on FOX as "The Deal"--- whatever happened to treaties).

Harf reassured the lemming audience (still watching FOX thinking it is conservative-centered) that the CASH AND GOLD paid to Iran was "their money, not US taxpayer money."

And, "sanctions were a critical part of the Deal all along so if Iran fails to uphold their end, sanctions will be reinstated."

Uh. Ya.

Harf Harf! Harf! Harf Harf Harf! with her smart glasses must just love the media attention. Truthfully, the bubblehead couldn't negotiate her way out of the ladies room on a good day.

To think this was part of the front line of our foreign policy for 8 years. Disgusting. She's right out of an Amy Schumer flick

[Account Deleted]

Chef Kev doesn't begrudge anybody their dessert preferences.

Whatever blows the proverbial skirt up. ;)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Well, a transformer went pop and then, although we got power back, we were without internet for a couple of hours.

I did a load of laundry and read part of a quirky mystery whose chief character is a post-war young girl who spends her time fixating on poisons and poisoners. It has swell chemistry mixed in with a puppet show pair of weirdos and a woman named Mad Meg who lives in the woods and several years ago found the body of a boy hanging, dead, from an abandoned gibbet.

Quite funny, actually, in a black humor sort of way.

[glasater]

Good white cheddar cheese with Opal apples is wonderful :-)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I always like to remind Indiana University's Alumni Association that since they gave the "Distinguished Alumnae" award to MARIE HARF, they will never, ever get a dime from me.

Never.

[DrJ]

Chef Kev doesn't begrudge anybody their dessert preferences.

Good! I prefer a brandy or single malt to any of this baked nonsense (even though MrsJ is a brilliant baker!).

[Beasts of England]

I would never insult an apple pie by topping it with anything at all...

:::ducks:::

[narciso]

Remember he thought the same of algeria

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/07/we-4
will-yield-nothing-to-anti-zionism.html?m=1

[Jim Eagle]

With peaches, plums and apricots in season, this discussion has inspired me to make a stone fruit cobbler which is a perfect accompaniment to vanilla ice cream.

[narciso]

I think vanilla ice cream goes well with pie, re Ken burns interview with vanity fair, that propaganda piece will be exactly as we feered.

[Jane (Stand against the Coup)]

Why would anyone eat pie? If it's not chocolate, why bother?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

narciso,

I had no doubt about Burns. If you will remember, we predicted it here first!

[Account Deleted]

Beastie!

Never had ducks on my appo pie.

Is that an Asian thang or wha?

;)

Kev Global

[Bubarooni]

Had peach/blackberry cobbler last night. With vanilla ice cream. All in season at the local farmers market.

Not bad.

I was much more interested in the hot peppers I picked up.

[matt, deplore me if you must]

We have a friend who is a Master Baker and she does the most amazing zucchini bread. The deal is that we leave her half a dozen of my prime zucchini behind the magic oak tree and a few days later we receive several loaves of zucchini bread in return.

We also barter in fresh multicolored chicken and quail eggs for things like loquat chutney and pomegranate infused white lightning. Interesting neighborhood.

The tomatoes are coming in in droves now and having to parcel them out. I highly recommend the Azoreans, Mortgage Lifter, and Better Boys, all indeterminates. It's a jungle out there (you tomato gardeners will get that one).

[Account Deleted]

I lost all respect for Ken Burns after he appeared in the film "Gettysburg" doing a faggy (lispy and purse-lipped) rendition of General Hancock's aide-de-campe.

His docs might be well-made etc etc etc but he's just another one of the iconic authorities that Marxist history will use to advance the "America is lame" narrative.

LA is a gone city in that respect. The LA Times has seen to it. 4 days in a liberal household.... ugh.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/523052696/kamala-harris-devotional-prayer-saint?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=kamala%20harris&ref=sr_gallery_1

I am putting this link up because none of you would believe me without proof.

[Porchlight]

Okay let's go back.

Cheese with apple pie is mostly defunct now but WAS a Northeast thing.

I have a zillion cookbooks and the New England ones mention it. Also grew up there. Never actually had it but heard people talk about it.

https://newengland.com/today/food/desserts/pies-pastries/blue-ribbon-deep-dish-apple-pie/

https://www.cabotcheese.coop/apple-pie-cheddar

http://www.thekitchn.com/an-apple-pie-without-the-chees-99573

http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/cheese-apple-pie

Last link suggests that both New England and the Midwest are home to the tradition. Which makes sense, as it originated in England, and there's lots of cheese in the Midwest.

[David, Internet Deplorable]

Kev,

Mention the next time you are down in LA. I live in Long Beach, only about a twenty-minute drive from downtown. Ot at least, a twenty-minute drive on one of those mythical days when the freeways are clear. In reality, it is forty-five minutes to an hour, depending on the time of day.

I have never had the chance to meet anyone from JOM and would welcome the opportunity.

David

[Captain Hate]

I always like to remind Indiana University's Alumni Association that since they gave the "Distinguished Alumnae" award to MARIE HARF, they will never, ever get a dime from me.

Never.

This is why tuitions will never go down. Even if Marie wasn't the epitome of a clueless numbskull this is a bad move. If you're, unlike me, able to ignore the stench of RINO emanating from every pore, Condoleeza Rice would be a much better choice image wise as far as being obviously an intelligent and poised example of what a university wishes to be associated with image wise. But it would still offend some people who associate her with Chimpy McHitlerburton, while conveniently ignoring that she countermanded nearly all of the revered Warcock's strategic decisions. Leaving aside that most of the people offended by Rice aren't known for their generosity to charities, it's not cost effective to offend them.

[Account Deleted]

MM--->

These lefty communist cockbags are way into this devotional media stuff.

It reminds me of those "Obama" election posters that looked like election propaganda in Venezuela, or Mexico or some other 3rd world sewer pipe.

That Harris is seen as their "savior" suggests to me that they will try to reconstruct the foreign backer/donors again to bring this future tyrant to the fore in emoCrat convention politics.

I think she's flawed in that she's not enough of a tabula rasa as The Bath House Rat was. She's a hard-core ideologue who doesn't understand compromise.

Her track record in California (Sacto and SFO) isn't a vacuous record of voting present---- she was a vigilant prosecutor and issue-based gladiator with a distinctly anti-cop agenda.

Three torpedoes to her hull ought to finish her.

There is nothing in this climber to recommend.

Commander Kev

[Account Deleted]

Dave--->

Consider it done! My BIL knows all the back routes to beat the Harbor FWY parking lot points. (I think that's what we'd take to get to you. Could be wrong.)

Thanks for the invite.

Kev Angeleno

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Captain Hate,

I notice IU never gave that award to R. Emmett Tyrell, founder of The American Spectator.

[Threadkiller]

Loyalty to TM's links forced me to press PJ's "load more" button... twice.

A disappointment at best:

Hot Air's John Sexton recently reminded readers about "Journolist," the infamous media listserv created by Ezra Klein that was leaked to the public in 2009.

The list was invitation only and was mostly made up of progressive journalists. In theory, the list was a kind of digital water cooler where like-minded people could talk to others in the field. That may have been all it was much of the time, but when candidate Obama got in trouble in 2008, it also became a place for partisans to discuss a coordinated media strategy.

The strategies these partisans came up with to confront media stories unhelpful to Obama -- kill it, ignore it, call them haters — "seem like media archetypes now," Sexton sagely noted.Indeed.

How many in-depth stories about the Obama unmasking scandal have you seen in the MSM? About as many as you saw of the Fast and Furious, IRS, and Benghazi scandals. A comparison of the MSM's minimal coverage of those scandals to their 24/7 blanket coverage of "RussiaGate" reveals a bias so blatant and obvious that even the casual (low info) observer can't help but notice.

During the Obama years, when right-wing websites and personalities played fast and loose with the facts in their zeal to say something negative about the president, they could expect to be pounced on immediately by media fact-checkers.

Hmmm... What, pray tell, would be a right-wing story that played "fast and loose" with facts surrounding Obama?

Debra Heine can go suck it. Why throw the Journolisters a bone with that stupid bit of capitulation?

#BirtherTrump

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4703840/Why-largest-animals-never-fastest.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

I call BS on this. First of all, what if they hopped like kangaroos?

[clara]

porch, I grew up eating cheddar cheese on apple pie--my father introduced me to that, and he was from Virginia!

[Porchlight]

Good catch, TK. I skimmed the article and it wasn't too bad, but I missed that part. Stupid.

[Account Deleted]

HARF-HARF!!! HARF! HARF-HARF-HARF!!!

What a waste of human DNA. How exactly did her term of service under The Bath House Rat and Susan *DISTINGUISH* her miserable ass relative to serious foreign service pros past and present?

Those "smart glasses" ....good grief... I am so sick of every liberal fascistically influenced product or policy being tabbed as "smart."

Zuckerberg is considered smart.

Sniping Kev

[Porchlight]

clara,

So it's everywhere. :)

Maybe "colonial" explains why it would also be in Virginia.

Anyway, food traditions do travel. Sadly, regional food is mostly becoming a thing of the past, with notable exceptions.

[Captain Hate]

Miss Marple,

IU will be more poorly run than Purdue for a while.

What did the original reference to the odious Ken Burns on this thread come from?

[David, Internet Deplorable]

Ron Radosh, Republican Retard.

"The time has passed for Republicans and conservatives to drop the charge that Russian meddling in the U.S. electoral system is part of a witch-hunt, instituted by Democrats to challenge the legitimacy of Trump’s Electoral College victory."

Makes lots of claims and backs them up in good MSM reporterial style—say them again louder and slower and they will surely come to pass!

If you are cursed with too much IQ, you should definitely read this article, because it will shave off at least ten points.

https://pjmedia.com/ronradosh/2017/07/16/finally-conservative-writers-accept-the-truth-about-the-trump-campaigns-folly/

David

[James D.]

TK @ 2:02

I didn't get that far. The author (I agree with you 100% that she can "suck it" and that's about as polite as I can be) opens with:

The conventional thing for media fact-checkers to do these days is to focus on President Trump's myriad gaffes, goofs, misstatements, jokes, exaggerations, etc

E-fucking-nough! Must these jackasses open EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE with an automatic put-down of President Trump? Are they entirely incapable of writing something that contains no insults or digs towards him (or his supporters)?

Well, fine. If a columnist wants to announce right up front that she's lazy and careless and disdainful of her audience, it saves me the time of reading any further, or of reading anything with her byline in future.

[Robin, rained out in upstate NY]

MM, were you reading about Flavia de Luce, by chance? Such a fun mystery series.

Kev, I hope the lurkers not on the email list get to see your video.

[Captain Hate]

Radosh used to be reliably intelligent; that's now a vague memory.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Captain Hate,

I posted the other day that Burns has a new documentary coming out in the fall: "Vietnam"

narciso and I both thought it would be heavy on the brave anti-war protesters and portray vets as either victims or monsters.

Apparently, this is what's going to happen. I personally think it is to conflate the past anti-war group with these stupid Resistance people, to give them a sense of being "brave for the cause."

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Robin,

Yes, Flavia de Luce. I am enjoying it tremendously.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

James D.,

When I see those types of sneering comments about Trump, I just think"That's why we voted for him, you poseur."

There's an old Victorian saying: "Deeds not words."

Is he killing regulations? Yes
Did he appoint a great SC Justice? Yes
Is the economy improving? Yes
Has he had 3 successful foreign trips? Yes
Did he appoint a stellar cabinet who actually WORK? Yes.

I guess I am supposed to forget about all of that and be upset that he sometimes exaggerates, tells corny jokes, and speaks with a Queens accent.

Fuggedaboutit!

[Captain Hate]

Thanks, Miss Marple; yes, it will be terrible, of that I have no doubt.

Behold the dumbasses of Twitter:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=370678

[Account Deleted]

Robin----> It's going to end up on YouTube and Vimeo before to long .... When it does I'll share the link. Not sure how long that will be (a month or two at most) as we prepare for the space launch to viral prospecting levels.

Thanks for your interest.

Kev Zanuck

[narciso]

I read radosh's first work, before he was the lead rosenberg debunker, he thought cold war union policy in western europe was too biased toward the west this,is,akin to Norma desmond,refusing to fund pro us,factions in election in Iraq and afghanistan

[narciso]

He didn't go as McCoy blaming Irving Brown for the French connection, but about one Kevin bacon away.

[Eric in Boise]

FWIW, I first experienced the apple pie/cheese thang many years ago not in the Northeast or Midwest, but in SoCal. There was a local chain of pie shops called Marie Callendar's (now national, I believe) and on their menu was this tidbit:

Apple pie without some cheese
Is like a kiss without a squeeze

I thought "what the hell", ordered some, and have been a believer ever since :)

[narciso]

This,is,who the program will be seen through the eyes of:

http://www.vietvet.org/jmopbuff.htm

[narciso]

I like apple pie, I love cheese but that's just crossing the streams.

[narciso]

The first reference hadn't occurred to me:

https://amgreatness.com/2017/07/16/russia-house-pope-kafka/

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

A slab of extra sharp cheddar with a nice sweet slice of apple or grape is mighty tasty.
Not sure why the addition of some crust should matter too much.
But, like Buckeye I'm afraid it's vanilla ice cream for me.

[hrtshpdbox]

I prefer a brandy or single malt to any of this baked nonsense

Me too; I put cheddar cheese in my single malt Scotch (we all do in my region of the country).

[sbwaters]

If you are cursed with too much IQ, you should definitely read this article, because it will shave off at least ten points.

Fortunately, I stopped reading early on. BS indicator gonging too loud for me to focus on the rest of the article.

[narciso]

Two steps,back, imho

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/449560/ir2an-nuclear-deal-mcmaster-trump-move-certify-deal-congress

[sbwaters]

Most apple pies do not meld the crust and the apple well.

Less risk making a cobbler or an apple compote with shortbread or crust-like cookies on the side.

Top off with fresh, home-made whipped cream and the eyes glaze over, as they should.

[sbwaters]

BTW: Last Page.

[Account Deleted]

MM: Like many of us on here, I can remember the "climate" during the war--- especially when the draft escalated toward its peak.

It will be interesting to see if Burnsie can resist temptation and forego making the specious association between the escalation of the war with the protest movement, as opposed to the clear *CHICKEN ASSED* rich lefties call to protest the war and give them political cover to avoid serving--- by any means necessary.

I was in 8th grade when the first draft came down on Dec 1, 1969. My birtday got a "66" number.

My Pa looked up my number just after dinner when he pulled out his copy of the Oakland Trubune.

He explained the difference between getting a low number and a high number. And that mine was low.

After a few minutes I went up to my room with heart pounding in my neck at the thought of dying.

We'd been avid watchers of nightly news and consumers of all color spreads in the Sunday editions, the National Geographic, and films such as "The Green Berets."

It was pretty clear what happened to front-line grunts. And the body-less caskets at the hundreds upon hundreds funerals was evidence.

At the time I was only 14 with but 4 years to go before I'd surely have to go fight in a war that seemed to have no end in sight.

I was around the war aftermath serving military funerals as a Catholic altar boy up until I graduated from grade school in June of 1970.

The altar boy duties began in 1965 at the end of fourth grade (spring) and continued for 5 years.

Until the draft went into its second round in 1970, there wasn't a single protest at our Catholic church that served as a regional funeral center for the dead coming back in droves.

1968 was the high watermark for burials. But at the time, young men were volunteering for duty over there.

Once the draft started taking the 600,000 plus Americans "protest" became the order of the day.

And even if the war had expanded without a draft
I doubt anybody would have given a monkey's butt.

The sanctimonious "war is not the answer" crowd of douche nozzles will be celebrated in Burns' video....that somehow they are smarter than everybody else....blee-blah--bleeh.

I don't give a whit about the swamp critters who brokered the profiteering behind the war, like Laird, McNamara, and the rest of those pantloads playing general.

That war touched just about every economic engine in America. For example, Meadow Gold (the ice cream people)built the largest ice plant ever outside the USA just to provide it for our military infrastructure over there--- and I am sure the booming black market.

Do I detest that kind of stuff? Sure do. But it's not the point.

The bigger problem McNamara and company created, and which has metastasized to present-day levels treason (aka "leaking"), clearly screwed the generational pooch when they fell into the liberal trap of detaching national security from press First Amendment protections--- and not hanging Daniel Ellsberg by his scrawny pretentious neck (I know that cockbag well. He is killing grass all over Berkeley. Not a constructive thought in his brain these days.)

And that same trap led to the Left hanging the war around Nixon's neck and scalping him before it was all said and done.

That's been boilerplate ever since.

My bottom line is, when the Nation sends people into combat, our duty is to SUPPORT them the way that they support each other in the field.

What happens when we don't?

That's easy--- Bow Tie Pasta Bergdahl and the Bath House Rat using Marines as photo op props.

FEMALL

I don't think Ken Burns is going to be able to resist landing on the head of a very crowded pin.

He will not pay any close attention to the dead from Hue, Khe Sahn or any of the others who sacrificed their lives turning back the Tet offensive; nor will he be sympathetic to the realities of firefights on point out on patrol, and the death by boredom waiting out there on the FOBeez waiting to die for real.

Not getting my hopes up. Not at all.

But I'll predict we'll get plenty of cameos of fuzzy-faced college kids who were sniveling about "their values" while their brothers were being raked in the fields over there.

It's nauseating. And the brothers I know who are still surviving today after being grunts over there? What about them?

I don't think Burns has the spine to turn and honor the dead and dying of that War, and forsake the pearl clutching gazillionairesses and trust funders who want a glamour ride on his coat tails on this most devastating topic of human suffering.

The Left is constantly prattling about authenticity and "keeping it real."

One look at what they are reading in the press and the "authors" they subsidize (Naomi Klein? puhleeez) and the icons they think are "smart" and "courageous" because they see fit to describe where they prefer the sexual aid or digit to be inserted..... tells me, they got nothin.

I guess I'll have to wait and see.

Kev Frankincense

[Ralph L]

pomegranate infused white lightning
A ray of hope for Brooks.

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Any "pro" or "yum" votes for "cheese-bacon" combos of any ilk or time of the meal?

Kev Bacon

[Frau Reibekuchen]

"It's like brown sugar on sweet potatoes."

And the problem with that is what, exactly?

OMG - next someone will demand marshmallows, too.
Just butter, salt,* and pepper on mine.
My credentials, you ask? My earliest nickname was "Taters" for sweet potatoes, my favorite potato until the age of reason (classical reference).

*Oxford comma for those of a certain age.

[Old Lurker]

I am niot at all sure James' Burning House is big enough to hold all the GOPe a**holes I want to stuff inside it. Everyone here knows how much this WSJ just flat out disgusts me:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/health-law-taxes-divide-the-gop-signaling-a-shift-1500283800

[Dave (in MA)]

Me too; I put cheddar cheese in my single malt Scotch (we all do in my region of the country).

Around here we use Cheez-Whiz because it's easier to get up the straw.

[Frau Reibekuchen]

sbw @ 11:35- Take that and that and that, AP villains!

I swoon and would like to be considered for the next opening in your groupie-group.

[Old Lurker]

I agree with this from Bloomberg:

"Donald Trump’s most fervent supporters are less confident of his leadership on health care even though they still overwhelmingly support him as president, the latest Bloomberg National Poll shows."