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July 04, 2017



Good Morning from Maine!

daddy on iPad

"We"??? "We" could SAVE THE EARTH, by migrating "it" away from the Sun????????

I don't understand why everyone is thinking so small in Global Warming land. How about we move the sun back, not the Earth.

Cmon Lefties, think out of the box every once in a while.


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James D.

What an embarrassment of riches! How many new threads have we had in the past 24 hours?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Captain Hate,

I knew you would appreciate that article I posted o the last thread. I thought it was a very good one for explaining electrical production and transmission in laymen's terms.

I had read that Australia was having problems, but didn't understand why.

And Jack is right about them having a mining and smelting economy. My ex-husband had a lot of contacts with those companies.


So let me get this straight... salted fats not sugared carbs? I haven't put salt on food in 40 years.


Gov. LePage and the Democratic House Speaker reached a deal last night to end the state government shutdown. The lodging tax increase was negated and the Dems secured two items...a two year moratorium on a DHHS rule change and the allocation of more federal TANF funding for early childhood education programs. There is a north/south divide in Maine and the legislature has to work around those tensions.

Miss Marple the Deplorable



From the last thread....can't keep up.


C'lumbus still has their massive fireworks extravaganza.

Some of the suburbs have pedaled back the activity.

Prog 'burbs have shifted to 5k runs and the like, just not cool to be too patriotic.

Yesterday I helped Mrs. Buckeye find a little, very old cemetery out in what used to be farm country. Only 30 or so markers and many are so old they are barely legible. Almost every one in that cemetery is one of her distant cousins or their spouses. Quite a few with birth dates in the 1700s.

Almost every male grave is marked with a military star. Revolutionary War and forward. Most recent was a LT. Col. who served in WWII. Flags had recently been placed at the graves.

Honoring those who created and preserved this country is what matters today.


Factoids about the Fourth.

The DoI was not ‘officially’ signed until August 2nd where upon all 56 delegates affixed their signatures. Not only that but this was not even the original handwritten version penned by Jefferson but an engrossed copy on parchment. Jefferson’s Fair Copy which was forwarded to Congress and signed by Hancock and Thomson only, the ‘original’ copy approved by Congress on July 4th has never been found.

Captain Hate

Yes, Buckeye, we're getting willowed all over the place with that upsurge in activitiy.

Yes, thanks for that article; JiB is very knowledgeable on electric utility matters since he helped turned that nookular jalopy in Port Clinton into a smooth running machine.


And Jack is right about them having a mining and smelting economy. My ex-husband had a lot of contacts with those companies.

MT and I did a lot of business with the captive mining railroads in Australia. Some of the most progressive "heavy haul" operators in the world.

These guys move serious tonnage, at least when markets are good. Not so much at the moment.

Captain Hate

Miss Marple is who I was referring to in the second paragraph.

Ralph L

A creepy headline at the Merkel link:
10 epic German movies you have to watch before you die

Clarice Feldman

jmh--threads have been shifting so quickly--want to make sure you see the syllabus for the wolverine's JH camp--I'm jealous,and I figure you'd be, too:http://cty.jhu.edu/summer/docs/syllabi/exam_1.pdf

James D.

Words fail...


Well, they don't, really. Considering who they just elected
To lead their country, it's no surprise at all.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

ANOTHER fake news item! Christie was on the beach in the back of the N governor's mansion, according to Richard Grenell. Uncropped photo at the link:


Miss Marple the Deplorable

On this date in 1936, it was 114 degrees at Omaha, Nebraska and almost the entire country was over 90 degrees. ( https://realclimatescience.com/2017/07/the-incredible-heat-of-july-4-1936/?utm_content=buffer80d2d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer )

My father often talked about that summer. He was a life guard at a local pool that year right before he went to IU and then the Army. It was so hot that the pool brought in block ice to cool it, and everyone slept outside on the lawn until the heat wave ended.


The telegraph link on the second to last thread shows the Tories in full conquistador coffee mode.

Captain Hate

Fat RINO Bastard may have been victimized by fake news but my sympathy for that bloated toad is nil. I'm so glad DJT saw through his bluster and left him out of the administration


daddy on prvious thread: when we shut down our 727 Fleet after 30 years of use, Fred gave away a lot of the planes to Aviation Training Schools and Air Museums.

We got a Fed-EX 727 years ago for our Airframe and Powerplant mechanics school at Mohawk Valley Community College. It now sports spiffy MVCC school colors.

We are grateful to Fed-Ex for it, training A&P mechanics for Premier Aviation refurb that helps keep our 12K foot runway active at Griffiss (KRME) so daddy and ManTran can visit when they choose.

The AP school also painted our B-52 static aircraft, but museum accurate-not school colors.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Captain Hate,

Yeah, I don't have much use for him, either. However, there is plenty to be aggravated with him about without fake news, and it's a good example of how sneaky the media is.

He does deserve some points for taking down Rubio in that debate, however.


I think he only picked Wray who saved his tauntaun hide for director and one or two junior aides

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Here's a chicken playing America the Beautiful on a keyboard.


Miss Marple the Deplorable

FOX & friends


A win in the war on terror! Iraqi forces retake Mosul hospital from ISIS
7:58 AM - 4 Jul 2017

Miss Marple the Deplorable



From CH on the last thread:

If civilization doesn't survive this nonsense I hope someone leaves a message for any interstellar entities saying "they had abundant energy sources that a worldwide mental disorder made go unused".

It all started with Jimmuh and his cardigan sweater.

I thought that piece on moving the earth away from the sun was intended to be tongue-in-cheek, but it gets harder and harder to detect satire.


well I got some alarming news last night just after I went to bed that my brother had fallen from a ladder yesterday afternoon and badly gashed his lower leg. We are 16 months apart and he is the good ol boy bass fisherman to my nerdiness.

Just heard it was 30 stitches in total with 6 of those on the inside. They are concerned about healing wounds in that area. I keep reading that diet helps, but I know he likes white bread and two helpings of refried beans instead of rice.

Maybe I can get him to drink my tonic.

I am a bit shaken.


Ana Navarro has to be right up there with Brooks and Stephens in the Hall of Shame of "conservative" turncoats who enhanced their careers with their backstabbing.

HuffPost Politics‏Verified account @HuffPostPol

Ana Navarro on Trump's CNN tweet: "He's going to get somebody killed in the media" http://huffp.st/WLsTJNM

Jim Eagle

Davis-Besse, pangs of nostalgia, CH:)

Getting ready to go the parade just up Main St. from us. We will hang out on the corner of Job's Lane and Main St. at the Presbyterian church where they have a concession set up. Our little visitors are going to get a eye and ear full of fire engines, bands and vintage cars.

Happy 4th to all.

Captain Hate

Navarro is choosing poorly by supporting her buggy whip friends. If nothing else, Trump has unmasked more phonies than anybody previously.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Regarding Fireworks:

Indianapolis has a big downtown festival today with fireworks set off from a skyscraper roof downtown after dark. It's really quite spectacular, and can be seen from quite a distance. I will probably go outside to see if they are visible from my backyard; if not, that's ok. Daughter is going downtown and I am on dog sitting duty here due to them getting scared of the local artillery.


30 stitches,yikes! Hope he heals up rse.

Captain Hate

JiB, did you spend a lot of time on site? If so you probably got a lot more familiar with the islands in that area, where a lot of my work friends would spend the weekend, than I did.


Happy Fourth of July to everyone at JOM!


Everyone has fireworks here. Even the towns. The 3" mortars put on a good show, and even the 1" mortar batteries (12 or 24 packs) are entertaining. There are laws, and there is what everyone does. This ain't Illinois.

Beasts of England

🇺🇸 Happy Independence Day!! 🇺🇸


Happy 4th fellow patriots of JOM!

It is a great day and the new "cleaner air" here is something else to celebrate!

Robin - adding your brother to my prayer list!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Melania Trump‏Verified account @FLOTUS 15m15 minutes ago

#HappyIndependenceDay 🇺🇸
We are the land of the free because of the brave. Thank you to the heroes who serve!

JM Hanes

A troll-free 4th of July is great from the get-go!

Thank you so much, TM!

Flag of My Fathers photo Fathers-Flag.jpg

My father's flag.

Captain Hate

Teddy is the first dog we haven't had to tranq for flipping out over fireworks because the breeder subjects the pups to recordings of sounds that they will encounter. For someone who looks like she just came off the road with Lynyrd Skynyrd, she runs a top notch operation and is one of the best dog people I've ever met.


MissM: "Christie was on the beach in the back of the NJ governor's mansion"

Is it the regular mansion or a governor's residence in a State Park?
This is confusing, as I was led to understand they had as much as admitted to being in the wrong on this one.

Beasts of England

Beautiful, JM Hanes!


JimNorCal, the Governors beach house in the state park.


Whatever you did to make JOM troll free, thank you TM!


I'm so glad DJT saw through his bluster and left him out of the administration

For me, Christie was done the week he had the two-fer of bear-hugging Obama and skipping a Romney rally. I don't think he'll go entirely quietly, though - he'll probably have some memorable melt-downs in his last six months in office.

Happy 4th of July, JOM!

Captain Hate

So after leading the state to the pathway to bankruptcy with his Medicaid insanity, Johnnycakes has also overseen creating a Somali problem in Columbus. Shocking that the nation didn't get behind this clown for President.


Hope your brother heals quickly Rse. Also, my best to Barb, Dave & Steph's daughter...
my apologies if I missed anyone...

Henry, so sorry for the loss of your very dear friend. My thoughts & prayers are with all of you.

As we celebrate the Fourth today, I'm honored & grateful for so many things. My family, my children, my friends, but also my JOM fam. I've learned so much from each of you over the years. I laugh out loud more so I must be gaining some humor back. I yell too but not as often & only when it's directed at the moonbats hosting Morning Joe... I love the fitting nicknames for certain pols or celebs...

You're all so darn smart, talented & share informative links so I wanted to thank you all for the many years of laughter, insight & interesting discussions even if I lurk most of the time. Y'all say what I'm thinking without a need to comment much...

A special thanks to the troops serving here & abroad in dangerous territory. May God bless them all free from harm. May God bless President Trump & First Lady Melania. Who would've thought this gift was even possible a year ago?

Have a Happy Fourth of July Holiday everyone!



Praying for a full recovery for you brother.

Interesting how different siblings can be.

My parents were thankful there was only one of me:)

Clarice Feldman

Best wishes for your brother, rse. Lovely flag, JMH.


So after leading the state to the pathway to bankruptcy with his Medicaid insanity, Johnnycakes has also overseen creating a Somali problem in Columbus.

Not like we didn't have enough cab drivers willing to short change you already.


At least TBT's post are short if not sweet.

matt, deplore me if you must

Hope your brother heals quickly and cleanly, rse.

All the best to all of you for the 4th!

JM Hanes


That's a lot of stitches! Food is probably a lot less important part of the equation than keeping an active person from doing things that will stretch the wound apart before it knits. Even with the comparatively modest gash on my calf, I was told to stay off my rowing machine and even to be careful about picking up heavy stuff (which, as I'm sure we've all been told a gazillion times, you're supposed to do with your legs not your back). I was pretty good about it, but that may be harder on a good old boy. If white bread and beans will keep him in his seat, I'd say go white bread! Probably best to stick to the dock for the fishing. My brother and I are about 16 months apart too! Coming face to face with the fact that anyone you love is vulnerable is truly unsettling.

The worst part about getting old is having to start being so damn careful about so many things you used to do without thinking twice. Ladders, where both balance and distractibility come into play, can be especially hazardous. It's hard to put off that little chore, just because you happen to be home alone....

JM Hanes


If you can't quit stalking Clarice, you may find yourself disappearing too.


He never dissapoints


Clarice Feldman

narciso, it's a mark of our country's resilience that we sruvived 8 years of him,

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I have been fussed at for planting a hydrangea in the back yard because it makes it hard to mow. This sounds just like her father, although I won't tell her that.

I am going outside to strip the grass from around the shrub and then will buy some mulch.

Back later.


A little straight ahead jazz guitar to start the morning.

Larry Carlton gets an approving nod from Les Paul, but I think Nicki is the real unsung talent on the set.

Truly one of the "badass bass babes"



That's a heckuva Wes Pruden piece, narciso.


Yes it is, hope your brother heals quick rse.

I tell the story of a police officer who spent a.year in ramadi, not a scratch, goes home is working on his fence, suffers an injury to his hand


TM seems to be saying, "So you mickey-fickeys want some damn threads, huh? BooYahKahSha !!!"

* * *

On the unfortunate and counterproductive disrespect in the black community for Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas:

Damn, RG, that is hard to read. Out of curiosity, how is Ben Carson regarded by those same people?

Posted by: Captain Hate | July 03, 2017 at 11:50 PM

These are personal opinions only, of course, but I'm much less certain how Carson is collectively viewed. However, my suspicion is the he is viewed much, much better because he is essentially a "neutral" personality in the minds of many (as neutral as a Black Republican can be, that is), is strong in his faith, and has a black wife.

Both Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas are credits to the God-fearing individuals who raised them, the can-do nation that inspired them, and themselves. I celebrate them and so much more on this Independence Day.


He was city manager in at least one other hamlet, the one with the skydragon fixation in rolling stone, but he dosnt suffer fools long

JM Hanes


Do you remember who it was that lauded TM as a "forensic" blogger? That struck me as a real badge of honor. Wolverine's summer camp sounds like one I might actually have enjoyed! Oddly enough, I did not enjoy being sent to the New Hampshire outback, where everything you did, from getting out of bed to getting back into it, either won or lost a point for your "team." I was just not a good little Mohican. After bruising my tailbone in a fall, it took me more than a decade to overcome my fear of horses. They pushed you so hard to make an impressive showing for parents' weekend that you never had a chance to get comfortable in the saddle.

One of the things my daughter has incorporated into her courses is teaching her nursing students how assess all the various "scientific" studies floating around and how to separate the wheat from the chaff. It's the kind of skill that's sorely lacking in so many fields of endeavor these days, isn't it?


From last thread discussion on Justice Thomas: He nailed it in his dissent in Kelo IMO--the worst decision of the SCOTUS in my lifetime. Shows the importance of having a judge with some practical experience of the real lives of the poor.

Posted by: Clarice Feldman | July 04, 2017 at 06:42 AM

Yep, yep. Thank you for this prompt, Clarice. I'm building a brief file on the man and Kelo was a good reminder. I can easily see the day (I suspect it is fast approaching, relatively speaking) where Justice Thomas is universally seen as a giant of the Court *because* of that very persuasive Kelo dissent and eclipses even Thurgood Marshall in the minds of African American legal scholars.

As a uniquely discrete and insular minority in this nation, the Kelo dissent will eventually be championed in the black community -- no doubt about that at all.

Clarice Feldman

I don't remember who said that, jmh--but that's the way I think of him. I did get a text from the wolverine last night and sh'e loving it. It's not all science--after all these classes they have sports and plays and just plain fun. The Johns Hopkins program for these kids are really first rate. Imagine a camp where you solve a murder! She's an excellent writer and I hope this spurs her taste for mystery writing, if not forensic analysis on its own. I bought her "The Sweetness at the Bottom of the Pie" to read when camp's over (at Frau's suggestion) so I'll probably get a critique on what the author got wrong now that she's an "expert". %^)
I loved my 2 weeks at camp each summer. For one thing my mother's cooking was so bad, I thought camp food was marvelous--but I loved it all--it was very laid back and the only camp at the time in the area that made room for kids with diabetes and mixed poor and rich kids together. I did get good camper marks for agreeing to ket a bedwetter share by tent on a camp outing--I told her I had faith in her, but I did keep an eye open all night just in case...

Clarice Feldman

+let a bedwetter share my tent*


I can't begin to tell y'all how much I love this tweet from Don Surber:


Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful on this 4th of July !!!


Wonderful clarice.


Happy Independence Day, all JOMers! The original Brexit. Hope everyone has a safe and wonderful 4th.

Suppose to hit triple digits in Le Bois today and for the rest of the week. Fireworks are normally staged in a municipal park downtown but with the damage done by the huge spring runoff, they decided to move the show west...right across the river from us.

Tomorrow is two weeks from surgery. I'm walking ~4.5 miles a day with a heavy duty back brace and trekking poles. Lost 12 lbs.

Applewood smoked baby back ribs for dinner tonight along with a '10 Shafer "Relentless" Syrah.

And thanks to whomever fumigated this place. I hope it can stay this way.

Clarice Feldman

I was in the trust but verify camp long before Reagan.

Beasts of England

Fine link, Buckeye!! Carlton is the King of 335s, although the guy playing the Campellone archtop held his own...


Any opinion on the euromaidan piece on the other thread



Yep, great link, Buckeye. Larry and Lee are queued up on my playlist for daily walks.


They do miss the point at Forbes the first had heart,,The rest are dreary carp


Insty has a link to a Calvin Coolidge speech on Independence Day that is very much worth your time.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

The Trump Train‏ @The_Trump_Train

People say Trump is unstable for tweeting memes but Macron is going around declaring himself a Roman god.

This tweet is commenting on a Reuters story that Macron wants a "Jupiterian" presidency, remote and above the fray, weighing his rare pronouncements carefully.

Clarice Feldman

Forbes link doesn't work, narciso.


Thank you for the link to the Surber tweet RG.

Thank God the founding fathers weren't politically correct!

James D.

MM, I saw another article on Macaroon - he's not doing a traditional Bastille Day q&a with the press because his thinking is "too complex" for the common people to understand.

I don't see what's so confusing about "raise taxes even more" and "time for the weekly call to get my marching orders from Frau Merkel."

Frau Steingehirn

RG sez:
I can easily see the day (I suspect it is fast approaching, relatively speaking) where Justice Thomas is universally seen as a giant of the Court *because* of that very persuasive Kelo dissent and eclipses even Thurgood Marshall in the minds of African American legal scholars.

I hope it happens during my lifetime.


More threads than parade floats today!

Yes, that means a new one.

Ralph L

Well crap, I hung my flag backwards.
Our city fireworks were last night, I guess it's cheaper, and city/police can have today off.

News flash: Legs take a long time to heal when we're older. I guess it's circulatory decline

Miss Marple the Deplorable


He's going to be another Obama type only more European globalist than Third World Marxist.

I am used to French presidents being arrogant (I came of age during DeGaulle) but really, this guy takes the cake as he has NO accomplishments. At least DeGaulle led the Free French Army during WWII.

As far as I can tell, this guy has been an invisible bureaucrat and no one really knows much about him. Seems to me that we should have a lot of entertainment from his Olympian pronouncements over the next 5 years.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


This is a reprint of a Daily Caller article, so fairly reliable.


another thread!


Lets tie again:


Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--I loved my 2 weeks at camp each summer.--

I was fortunate that my summer camp lasted three months every year as I lived a bit of a Huck Finn existence June-August.


Fake science at Duke used for EPA regulations. Somehow the (fake) results supported the consensus narrative. This must be that socially just science stuff.


🇺🇸Happy Birthday, USA ! 241 years of Independence !

rse...🙏Praying for your beloved brother's recovery..good food and attention are essential to healing!

Clarice..Summer Camp could be the beginning of her first series of published works...a la "The Woverine 's Summer Camp Mysteries":

Vampire Counselor or Conspiracy?
The Mystery of the Bloody Canoe Oar"
Ana's no Cuban--DNA stops #fakenews
Proof green-spotted Wisconsin frog is an Alien from Mars !

I wish more gifted children had supportive family like yours, they're our future !! A blessing, your 'wolverine', is 😀

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