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July 15, 2017


Man Tran



A refreshing change from so many sore losers in this world. 20 years at the top level of a sport is simply amazing.


Robin - I knew when I read that you probably were familiar with what's happened to 4-H. I'm no longer involved in that part of it so I was quite shocked and dismayed.

I can testify that at our little local camp this week, we will NOT be discussing any of that. Our kids will canoe, swim, have shaving cream battles, tie-dye t-shirts, make biscuits, ascend the climbing wall, zip down the zip line, and get very little sleep!


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Frau Holzauge
The Russian-born American lobbyist served in the Soviet military and emigrated to the U.S., where he holds dual citizenship.

What could go wrong?

Miss Marple the Deplorable


This is an interview with an influential Italian Catholic who is concerned about Pope Francis and the politicization of the Vatican.


Last Page link for anyone who may have missed the earlier posting by daddy.

Beasts of England

While I'm waiting on a load of whites to dry (Segregationist! Racist!!) I thought I'd review a few election season threads at JOM. This one is a classic... :)


(Not sure why the link starts with page 2, but y'all can prolly figure out the navigation)

Frau Holzauge

Good to hear about the gracious words of Wonderwoman Venus Ebony Starr Williams.

Captain Hate

Thanks a lot, Beasts; after months of intense counseling I was no longer waking up in the night upchucking all stomach contents at the mental image of Rodham doing the shimmy/DTs in that debate performance that threatened to knock the world off its axis. Nightmare restarted.


That A-hole JPod says Hillary’s White House would be no different from Trump’s

I doubt any ISIS fighters not yet dead would agree with JPod.

It's good to know that in addition to being stupid and dishonest JPod is also a miserable human being.

Frau Holzauge

daddy @ 2:03 - No different from Pres. Trump.? What a crock of carp!

JPod's portrayal of Hillary!'s WH scares the heck out of me. I couldn't even finish it.

Captain Hate

JPod, like a lot of other regular contributors to the Weekly Standard, with Fred Barnes being a prominent exception, was infected with an egg borne contagion that shows no sign of subsiding


mom-this is an example https://ase.tufts.edu/iaryd/documents/4HPYDStudyWave7.pdf

but literally if you search positive youth development 4 h club it pulls up the frameworks and cooperation from all over.

It is easy for me to find the stuff because I know the real definitions and key phrases.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

President's weekly address:


Video at link.

Flat-out says the democrat promises were LIES.

That is one of the things I like about him. He doesn't use words like "misspoke" or "disingenuous". Nope. LIES.


http://msue.anr.msu.edu/uploads/236/67146/4-HGuidingPrinciples.pdf is another example from michigan


http://extension.unl.edu/Feb2016.pdf is from nebraska.

Buford Gooch

A president Hillary would be no different than President Trump, except for the Supreme court, deportations, actually fighting wars to win, being pro-American, etc. Mostly the same, though. ;)


Thank you, Robin. The State 4-H director attends our board meetings so I plan to ask him about this at the next one. He is nearing retirement and comes from a similar background in 4-H that I do, so I would assume he disagrees with this. But then again, I doubt he has not known about it.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸


Mark Zuckerberg has his coveralls on backwards and none of them told him



I am telling you guys, this road trip he is on is simply hilarious!

pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

"Flat-out says the democrat promises were LIES."

Because that is what they were/are, IMO.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Yes, they were (and are) lies.

However, when have you heard a GOP plitician say "lie?"

They always use euphemisms and dodge around it, like if they say the word "lie" they will be turned into stone or something.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I wonder if we could send one of those oil rig guys with a camera into Silicon Valley, to see how they live and how they think.

He could wear a red MAGA cap to distinguish himself from the natives in their hoodies and gray t-shirts.

daddy on iPad

A president Hillary would be no different than President Trump,

And since Hillary, the favored candidate of the JPod #NeverTrump Crowd, wouldn't have been any different from a Trump Presidency, they just completely demolished their #NeverTrump argument😅

Ralph L

Gender-Reveal Parties
I thought they were for people to announce a "change" in the host(ess)'s.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Surprisingly decent coverage for the New York Times.

Captain Hate

I am telling you guys, this road trip he is on is simply hilarious

Setting Joe DiMaggio magnitude record levels of cluelessness.

Ralph L

JPod blames Trump for Congress' inaction and the establishment's reaction to him. At least he gets the Clinton horrors right--but they're nothing like Trump's problems.

daddy on Bettie's page

Nice evening here in Cambridge England. 8 PM, and shirtsleeve weather tho overcast. Sitting on a bridge overlooking the fleet of small punt boats being poled up and down the River Cam beneath me. My first pint was excellent but the current one is awful. Oh well, playing Hobson's Choice with draft Brit beers is it's own excitement. 2 great pubs, The Mill and The Anchor within a stones throw, and the bleedover WiFi is good enough to stay caught up with the thread so life is great! Cheerio, mates!

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Where do you go after Cambridge?

Clarice Feldman

Smooches, daddy.


I particularly like Zuckerberg's pristine white hard hat to match his backward coveralls (somebody had to zip him up).

Gawd, what a pussy.


daddy-the speculation over the next dr who and the bookmaking on it reminds me of being in england at oxford and travelling in the summer of 1980. people kept asking if we had any insights as americans on who shot jr on the tv show dallas.

They wanted to make a winning bet.

Captain Hate

Speaking of beer, in about a half hour meeting the poodle owners for the Keeper of the Craft Festival featuring eight local craft brewers. Plus after a cold front came through last night, it's a wonderful break from the dog days of summer; although a local weather guy said yesterday that it had been 26 days since the last 90 degree day. So it's been a pleasant summer so far at kind of the halfway point.


mom-look at the graphic on page 4 of this pdf from utah .


Taxpayer support means controlling what the provider must now make the focus.

daddy on Bettie's page

Miss M,

An easy trip on paper. All we do is sit here for 50 hours, then do the very fun and short 40 minute hop to Paris. I am with one of my very favorite co-pilots, a Tulane ME major, 1st generation Irish Immigrant, funny and opinionated Ant-Pope Che Catholic boy, and he is visiting his Irish Cousin and her hubby in London tonight. In Paris we only get a day but we are at the Montparnasse Hotel which is near The Falstaff, our fav bar in Paris bar nine, where we will be welcomed as long lost friends upon entrance. Then 24 hours later we do the 2 legged back they Stansted to my favorite current American layover, Indy. Where are we going for lunch😀


By the way, if you read my blog I have been warning that what that Framework calls the 5 Cs is also the focus of the main school day now.

In K-12 it is called SEL standards, life skills, Competencies, or Positive Education. Same focus after school with a different name. An academic name is simply the context for the activity.


Hard to believe 150 miles makes that much difference. been north of 90 in C'lumbus almost everyday this month.

Although I think only 89 today.

Spent most of this morning working on a bay window off the family room that needed caulk repairs and repaint.

First day in awhile cool enough.


rse and Mom...
the " indoctrination" in education is mind-boggling. The report on Powerline last week, documenting the terror elementary school children (who by genetics via God are 'white'.. not environment of white racist' parents) the Adult teachers, administrators, isolated-bullied-demoted-chastised them..IF they were not properly following their teachings( Maoist, Marxist BS). I believe it was a suburb of Minneapolis.

It's all parallel to the leftist media Russia/Trump propaganda, pushed to excuse their rejected political views. Another example of " hear, believe, teach, promote--ONLY what *I* say--not what I do. Division of the "haves and the have nots" by class, race, religion always leads to chaos.

And why I believe my grandson's Autism Spectrum DX, was not a tragedy.
He had to adapt, learn life lessons and store "knowledge" differently. Yes, again --it's not a preferred choice one would want for their children to struggle amongst "normals"--but in Colin's case, he soared, excelled and never judged other's misunderstanding of his differences. He says.." I'm unique--I work well, alone"..my gift from God, he is 😇

Jane (Stand against the Coup)


I took a boat from there one morning with a large pitcher of bloody Mary's. For some reason the bartender was shocked.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


What day will that be? You know I would love to have lunch!

What day will that be? I can show up wherever you decide.

Tell your anti-Pope Che guy that I am right there with him. I even posted an article a couple of hours ago about some Italian big wig who thinks he is destroying the Church.


daddy, how long have you been gone from home? is it typical? Seems longer than "usual" to this reader.
How many hours can you work/fly in relations to what you need to not be working?

Captain Hate

Buckeye, when I used to be in Columbus for weeks at a time for PUCO hearings, it was noticeably warmer than where I was coming from.


in relations to what you need to not be working?

I suspect that having two kids in private colleges has something to do with it.

Old Lurker

Based on healthcare, I would say the GOPe promises were lies, too.


daddy on Bettie's page

19 July Miss M. You pick the joint. I'm flexible as can be. I'll be on Euro time bodyclockwise, so early is no problem. Anytime between 10 to 3 works fine for me. Do what's most convenient for you and feel free to bring along anybody plus puppy dogs. We're at the Omni.

Old Lurker


Raise your hand if you think these clowns will accomplish anything at all with this. Fool me once, etc.


Ralph L

Quiz time: What's the political class' overused synonym for "in the future" that I've been hating for the last 10 years or so?
I'm asking because I'm drawing a blank.

Old Lurker

"when hell freezes over", Ralph?

pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

Miss Marple,
"However, when have you heard a GOP plitician say "lie?"
I understand what you are saying, but IMO, the Democrats are millions of times worse.


The only thing I can see we can do is to put better people in the Republican primaries until we get the people we need in Congress.

Ralph L

Finally remembered: going forward


Lean forward ralph.


Ralph L....
Going forward..."together"

daddy on Bettie's page


I was home for 2 days in the interim. The previous trip was modified and extended on the road for 2 or 3 days, but I was still legal FAA Rules-wise to do this trip, and since it is with a very good buddy whom I like a ton and we had a planned 4 day layover in England, I was glad to go. But since stuff broke and we got rerouted I've just been posting about the interesting changes more than normal. So I'm legal, having fun, and I get a good break off after I get home from this trip. FWIW, If I wanted I could easily bid to sit at home on Reserve and almost never go to work, but I love my job and momma is happier to have me on the road than pulling couch duty month after month:)

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Might bring Nate if he's back from his DE-luxe cruise with his buddy and parents, who are gold club members and get suites and stuff. He's somewhere in the Caribbean but don't know when he gets back.

No puppy dogs. Maggie is too big and Jack will bark at everyone or cower under a table. Pibby is mellow but old and not a good traveler.

Beasts of England

You're welcome, Captain!! ;)

daddy on Bettie's page

I suspect that having two kids in private colleges has something to do with it.

BINGO, DrJ! 100% correct.


Until the right has their own 'social psychologists' to counter the leftist propaganda, the prog's will keep marching through our institutions deluding the masses - even the Trump organization needs to employ some of this knowledge, and use it against our tormentors:


Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 7m7 minutes ago

Just got to the #USWomensOpen in Bedminster, New Jersey. People are really happy with record high stock market - up over 17% since election!

You know, he has tweeted about the stock market 3 times today.

We all know the stock market can go down for no good reason. He isn't a stupid man, and in fact, he talks in his books about how he prefers real estate because of the market being affected by forces outside your control.

So now my spidey senses are up and I am thnking he knows something and is baiting someone. That is all I will say.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--I see that Jared Kushner's Lawyer, the execrable Jamie Gorelick, has resigned from representing Kushner.--

I will be shocked, SHOCKED, if when Kushner leaks commence in earnest.


Thanks daddy. I still am curious though as to how many consecutive "work" hours you can have to your required "off time."

I am extremely interested in how people have handled the "for better or worse, but never for lunch" aspect of retirement, which daddy's statement about both he and the lovely Mrs. daddy being happy with him being gone however many days a month brings to mind--what happens when that is done?

I am totally content with current situation at our house, with someone working full time and someone not. ;-) But it's going to end sometime.

Jim Eagle

I see where Bloomberg thinks they have the smoking gun on Trump in Moscow, 2013. Supposedly 2 "wild" parties.

Looks more like water meets duck's back but it will Shep a boner.


but I love my job and momma is happier to have me on the road than pulling couch duty month after month:)

daddy, those of us who have screwing off down to a science know that a couch doesn't hold a candle to a La-Z-Boy recliner:)

Jim Eagle

...will give...


anonamom, I find myself thinking about that whole question much more frequently as I get closer to the time I tell whomever to take this job and shove it.

I am certain I will have to find something to keep me occupied and out of Mrs. Buckeye's hair.

Maybe a place with a 6 car garage full of toys that burn gas and make noise. With A/C, good sound system, beer fridge and that La-Z-Boy recliner:)


Here we go again. This time it's Jeffrey Lord at MRC.

The ‘Fevered Insanity’ of the Media’s Selective Outrage

“Collusion” is the word of the moment. And because Don Trump, Jr. said yes to this meeting thinking he was going to get some dirt on Hillary — which turned out to be not forthcoming — this is proof positive that Hillary was cheated.

Shouldn't that be "allegedly turned out to be"?

Seriously, this pattern of stating as fact things the writer doesn't know are facts is getting worse and worse.

Jim Eagle

Well, this is the cherry on the top of Russia 24/7 - Colbert is going to Mother Russia for a week's worth of snores.

Off to Russell House for dinner.


Good afternoon! The retirement conversation is interesting,because hubby is almost officially retired from the business he started in 1979. His business was bought by 40 year olds (one who went to high school with the daughter) and let me tell you,the transition hasn't been easy. Thank goodness he has lots of projects here in the woods. The most recent project has been putting power and water in what we call the "rustic cabin." That has kept him busy while I recover from foot surgery. Now he wants to buy the lot next to our property. By the way,he has a beer fridge in the garage. We call it the "magic fridge." :)


I just wanted to comment how clever the title of this post is. Appreciate everything you do for us, Mr. Tom.

In the absence of natural law, we would be left to the tyranny of will — arbitrary morality and rights, dictated by those who had muscled their way to dominance.


I doubt I will ever like Mark Levin.

I cannot trust a hypocrite. Those "arbitrary rights" he used to defend every time he hung up on callers who questioned his dual allegiance POTUS platform.


Jane (Stand against the Coup)

Next to getting old, retirement is the weirdest thing on the planet, and I'm not even there yet. I will say I do like swimming 3 times a day.

Frau Fußball

Extraneus - the same media giants turned a blind eye to Hillary!'s documented (via emails) crimes against Bernie Sanders' supporters. Bernie may have been in on the "joke," but his supporters were not.

Ralph L

I just wanted to comment how clever the title of this post is.
I seem to be the only one who got the "Whatever happened to Faye Wray?" allusion (Rocky Horror). See TM's funny explanation at the end of the thread.


Jane, I have never lived anywhere that a pool made sense or where I was near the water, but maybe I can fix that in the near future.


Ralph, a number of us were post-smartphone and post-lampshade.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


You might be interested in this.



On retirement: If you're the " like to stay busy" or enjoy (thrive) on the responsibility--camaraderie--of your chosen (hopefully) career.....Do NOT retire early...if physically, financially feasible.

Mr. glenda retired at 54...because he could. He's now a young, moderately healthy 71, bored --antsy "wished he hadn't" guy. About two years after he retired, " life happened" and we became responsible for our grandson, DX w Autism--and for the next 8 or so years, actively threw everything we could into providing the support, consistency, opportunities needed to assure he would thrive.

He helped start a school program called "Watchdogs" for middle schoolers to assist kids in need or struggling with bullying, no-Dad-at home to shape a firm dependable child of hope .

Then, he hunted, we traveled, he helped everyone fix things that needed fixing (not at home, I had to hire that out).

We've been "accessory grandparents" for about 5-6 years, and the boredom sometimes makes him wish he was busier, maybe -- and after a day of yard&spool maintenance--running errands with the grandson, walking 3 miles, "consulting" with friends/associates on hunting/lease management..he popped a "top"--asked "what's for supper?"...and forgot he retired "too early".



Pool not "spool"...though you never know 😎


glenda, my inclination is to take your advice, especially lacking grandchildren. But the day will come. I guess there's always golf!
For him, not me.

Jane (Stand against the Coup)


I never once in my lifetime expected to retire in Florida. I'm still shocked about it. But you deal with what you have, and in this weather, swimming is the best.


I seem to be the only one who got the "Whatever happened to Faye Wray?"

Hardly. I bet I've seen that movie over 25 times, most in a theater with people in costumes acting out the parts and everyone singing the songs, throwing bread, playing cards, etc. My buddy did up Dr. Furter spectacularly, black shiny panties and all.


Okay, anyone have any songs from RHPS on their smartphone? You just never know when you are going to need to play Time Warp.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Sebastian Gorka will be on with Judge Jeanine this evening.



I was always Columbia in high school. But this coming Halloween I've been selected to be Janet in pink dress and cardigan (not the later, skimpier getup) for a work party. My boss is going to be Brad. I didn't want any part of it, but sometimes you get voluntold.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I bet I am one of the last people to have never seen "The Rocky Horror Picture Show."

Jim Eagle


The only time I saw RHPS I was the only one not dressed up. San Francisco, near the Castro. I felt like Georgie Gobel's "A tuxedo in brown shoes".

Never went back or saw it again.


MM, it really isn't required. Take a step to the left....


Heck even I've seen Rocky Horror. Then again, I lived in Berkeley, where the screenings (every Friday night) were famous [Wiki]:

It [UC Theater] was locally famous for its late-night showings of the cult film Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975), over a 22-year run which ended in January 1999. The ongoing audience participation group, which eventually went on to recreate the film live on stage at the theater under the name Indecent Exposure, was one of the earliest, and best well known, of such groups until October 1995, when they disbanded. In 1990, Indecent Exposure was filmed on a Los Angeles soundstage for scenes released with the Rocky Horror home video. Seamlessly, a new group named Barely Legal took over and is still performing Rocky Horror to this day, switching venues to the Parkway Cinema in Oakland from 1999 to 2009, and then touring various venues in northern California before settling at the Albany Twin and Camera 3.

how about that,


Miss Marple the Deplorable

As far as I know, Rocky Horror only gets shown here at art theaters on the North Side. When I was married, this was not something my husband would have paid money to see. And since my divorce, I haven't paid attention to any events which aren't free.


I've never seen it either.

Jim Eagle

Should have gone to the Sox-Yankee game today. It's in extra innings and the sun is setting. 1-1 with a controversial decision on interference at 1st. Is there a better series of rivalries?

Drive by it all the time on 90 going to Wellesley. Wonder if anyone has hit one over the green monster onto the Turnpike?

BTW, half of Asia is in Harvard Square sizing up where junior is going to school with his 2400 perfect SAT score and daddy's guaranteed $65K a year tuition. No bats an eyelash. Better if she is a she.


Get it on Netflix, MM, but if you do you need to do the moves.


Frau Bier her!

I bet I am one of the last people to have never seen "The Rocky Horror Picture Show."

Now is probably not the time to start.
I went to SF conventions and enjoyed the dancing in the aisles. In the meantime, I have found out who Susan Saranwrap really is and would rather not see her again.

btw I saw "Godzilla meets Bambi" at a midnight showing at a Chicago World Con. Today, I am not really awake at midnight.

Jim Eagle

Oh, I meant to mention I need to make a correction. There are 3 comic book stores in Harvard Square. Forgot Newbury Comics. Stopped in after dinner so Frederick could peruse. (natch). Damn good jazz CD selection. Some pretty rare for me. Used but sounded good.

Frau Bier her!

Posted by: narciso | July 15, 2017 at 07:49 PM

Love the Jubal E(arly) touch at your link. A twofer: the Confederacy and "Firefly."


JiB, better to see the game at Fenway than to listen to the POS color dude on Fox Sports. Too much about him. Too much about Boston.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

For Catholics, Raymond Arroyo has a quote from a message Pope Benedict sent to a friend's funeral.

At least I know we are not crazy.


Frau Bier her!

So now we have Good Pope and Bad Pope as if it wasn't obvious to all?

Isn't that the same quote we saw before, Miss M?


Lived in Dallas in my younger years. 4 dudes in a house and as result we did 'cool things'.

There was a theater that showed only RHPS and Mommie Dearest.

We went to the Mommie Dearest screening on night and it was a blast.

I did almost lose an eye to a wire hanger though.

'No more wire hangers, ever!'

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