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August 10, 2017



I really, really, really like the idea of a blowup between the media and the Dem machine.

Let them take each other out while we sit on the sidelines and eat popcorn and drink whatever lyle pulls out of his cellar.

Gotta figure out a way to throw gasoline on this fire.

Jane (Stand against the Coup)


I don't know about the tax thing, but it is clear they shouldn't have access. I do believe I'm missing a piece but I can't figure out what it is yet.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

Is this real?


Jane (Stand against the Coup)


The drama reunites the regulars, like you. Enjoy it! Is that your issue with Trump?


Thanks for asking that question of appalled. I was going to ask what exactly is wrong with the "dramatic course" President Trump has undertaken.


Forgot to add that I won't be holding my breath waiting for an answer.


Susan Rice in her own words

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Video of President Trump taking questions from the media at Bedminster. C-SPAN video at link:


It's really good!


Paul Manafort blew the whistle on Don Jr’s secret Russia meeting: report – Raw Story

“In fact, Manafort had alerted authorities to a controversial meeting on June 9, 2016, involving Trump’s son Donald Jr., other campaign representatives and a Russian lawyer promising damaging information on Hillary Clinton, according to people familiar with the matter,” Bloomberg reported. “The president and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, were dragged into the matter as details repeatedly emerged that contradicted the initial accounts of that meeting.”

That seems to confirm the New York Times‘ initial July 8 report on the meeting.


“Manafort, the former campaign chairman, also recently disclosed the meeting, and Donald Trump Jr.’s role in organizing it, to congressional investigators who had questions about his foreign contacts, according to people familiar with the events,” the Times reported.

The newspaper based its report on confidential government records based on interviews and documents shared with congressional investigators.

It’s not clear when Manafort told congressional investigators about the meeting, but a Federal Election Commission filing shows the president’s re-election campaign paid Trump Jr.’s attorneys $50,000 for legal consulting 11 days before the Times story broke.


Susan Rice's former boss in his own words:

To be clear, the United States does not, and never will, accept North Korea as a nuclear state.

~Barry O'Dummy



pagar's link:

History shows that we can, if we must, tolerate nuclear weapons in North Korea — the same way we tolerated the far greater threat of thousands of Soviet nuclear weapons during the Cold War,” she wrote.

“It will require being pragmatic.”

Rice said the U.S. should make it clear that any use of nuclear weapons against the U.S. or its allies, or the transfer of nuclear weapons to third parties, would “result in annihilation of North Korea.”

But she said the second step is for Trump to end his tough guy rhetoric in order to avoid “blundering into a costly war.”


Buckeye: I WISH I were pulling a bottle or two of les grand vin from my cellar lately but I'm afraid I've been teetotaling as I'm dealing with continued oxicodone usage for what appeared to be post-op idiopathic sciatica in my left foot but turned out to be, of all things, gout (and possibly a hairline fracture of a metatarsal, TBD). Never had that before and--sumbitch!--never want it again!

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I used to listen to Jay Sekulow's radio show and always found him kinda pushy, phony and irritating.
But I also found him to be a bulldog and very good at what he does.
I'd hate to be the chump in his crosshairs.


Thanks for the link, MM. It was very good.


lyle,ouch! I'm finally on both feet,but I'm taking baby steps. Good Luck!

Jim Eagle


1) don't forget the exlax, prune juice and other helpers, plus 2) a good gas diffuser like Xantac. i I got off of it ASAP because I was missing my vin de jour.

For Frederick's upcoming 14th birthday I brought back two double mags of a 1998 Pontet-Canet (our wedding wine) and for his confirmation we have one of my last Imperials, a 1994 Petit-Village. So far the old coal bin has done its new job as a wine cellar.


Denizens of The Ledge™ SOB alert!


Trump's tweet was a response to McConnell's recent statement suggesting that the president may not be realistic about what Congress can do. "Our new president, of course, has not been in this line of work before," McConnell said this week. "And I think he had excessive expectations about how quickly things happen in the democratic process."

Trump's inexperience is a factor here. But the outsider president's expectations were set in large part by seven years of Republican promises to repeal and replace the health care law. And throughout that time, Republicans were never really serious about developing a replacement plan that could pass.


This is where Trump's experience comes into play. Trump, an outsider with no history with the Republican politics, was not in on the plot. He did not know that it was, essentially, a ruse.

It wasn't a "ruse." It was an utter lie and Trump exposed it for what it was. But, Trump's the buffoon, huh?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

It occurs to me that the White House reporters aren't up in New Jersey. The reason I think this is so is because Rick Leventhal was reporting from there this morning, instead of the guy (Chaf Pegram?) who is the Fox White House reporter.

Jim Acosta hardest hit.


Surely she would say the same about Iran, and already has.


(Susan Rice, I mean.)

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 21m21 minutes ago

.@IvankaTrump will lead the U.S. delegation to India this fall, supporting women’s entrepreneurship globally.
#GES2017 @narendramodi

Jim Eagle

Most of the WH press are on vacay also. They always go when Congress goes because there is usually no WH briefings then. Plus they probably think Bedminster is in the middle of the Thruway's chemical processing industry.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Absolutely beautiful part of The Garden State.


Thanks for the info, JiB.

1) Roger that!
2) That, too.

Some awfully nice large format Bordeaux, as well.

Thanks, Marlene. Much appreciated.


Lyle, gout is the pits. Sorry to see it got you. Ow!


RE: the Turtle on inexperience... What exactly has been his experience at getting something done? Getting stuff stuck on an adjacent fence post he is good at. But a total novice at success.


Ow, indeed, henry! Shee-it!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

He's on now with Part 2 of press questions.


Was Kim at the big rally?


I have a vision of thousands of armed drones flying around looking for him.


Ignatz - I feel the same way about Sekulow. I think he misses some low hanging fruit, and has been known to go around the barn in his argument. Not that he's wrong, just that sometimes his attack is indirect.

He also needs to be more aware about stating his frame of reference. Sometimes he adopts his foil's position for sake of argument, resulting in a bit of wasted time as the two have to go back and clear up what amounts to talking past each other for awhile.


Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid
-Ronald Reagan

Great Reagan quote, joan! I just wanted to see it again. Thanks.

Reagan and Trump have that in common. "Your BS scare tactics don't work on me."


I love the way Trump interacts with the press. To me, this is his most powerful type of venue. He is quick, does not tolerate fools, and is not evasive.


Sorry, lyle, Gout sucks.

Marlene, glad you are up and at 'em!


Gorka on Appalled's sources for despair:


"childish, irresponsible..."

Jim Eagle


As you know, due to my wife's family we are Bourdeaux red wine and Beune, Pouliny Montrachet white wine people. Thrown in the Billecart-Salmon champagne and we have all the tastes covered.

The worst thing about moving out of Florida for Southampton in order to fulfill her dream renovation was giving up my wine cellar/room. Need to figure out how to duplicate it here without breaking my bank account or driving back in forth for a whole year

JM Hanes


"… the best way we don't is for Trump to keep doubling down on foolishness. so that his numbers keep tanking, so that the GOP decides it can impeach him without unleashing the furies upon them."

Now that's just silly.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Time to turn off Fox again. They have brought Kat Timpf on and she is "very concerned about Trump's rhetoric."


Captain Hate

McTurtle hasn't figured out that we don't want to hear any of his inside baseball excuses. What we want to hear is how Susan Collins's pet projects have been zeroed out, preferably in an imitation of her weird wavery voice, and how McCain, Murkowski and Portman have been removed from all committee assignments.

Actions should have consequences, Mitch. Act like a leader or GTFO!

Jim Eagle

Does anyone know how the PGA Championship can benefit from a TV presentation by "nature boy" Ric Flair? Are we equating fake athletic entertainment with championship golf?

I think Richard Petty is from North Carolina (born and raised) unlike Ric. Why not have a true pioneer of exhausting and physical NASCAR racing as a spokesman.



I love the way Trump interacts with the press.

I agree. He's confident. Some people think they have him on the run, but he doesn't show even the slightest defensiveness.


John McCain to force vote on new Afghanistan war strategy

Worried by the Trump administration’s delay in announcing a military strategy for the war in Afghanistan, Sen. John McCain said Thursday he’ll try to force the debate on Capitol Hill, offering his own plan that would force a troop increase.

The Arizona Republican, who is also chairman of the Armed Services Committee, didn’t lay out a number in the legislation but said more U.S. counterterrorism forces should be deployed, and given independent authority to strike targets of the Taliban, al Qaeda or other terrorist groups.

Mr. McCain also said the U.S should secure a long-term agreement with Afghanistan for an “enduring” military presence there, and should begin to impose penalties on neighboring Pakistan as punishment for that country’s harboring of insurgents and terrorists.

I thought we were almost rid of this asshole.


Anyone sense confidence in ML Mitch McConnell? Or his unimpressive mentors Bill Frist and Trent Lott? Anyone doubt the supreme confidence of take no prisoners ML George Mitchell? Or his smarmy disciples Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer? Same disparate dynamic on the House side with the exception of the Speaker Newt years.


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