Who Will Fact-Check The Fact-Checkers?

[UPDATE: Snopes has inserted a semi-stealth revision to address (or discredit?) the critics. More at STEALTH below.]

Snopes strikes again! They have a vigorous rebuttal of the claim that

"Barack Obama was president when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans in 2005".

The author, Arturo Garcia (@aboynamedart), does present examples that may be bots, humorists or knuckleheads thumping Obama for a slack response to Katrina. However, author Arturo led with this Tweet from @JacobAWohl:

When floods hit Louisiana, Obama was too busy worrying about the tough sand traps on the golf-course to go assess the damage

Ooops! No mention of Katrina there! And since Obama did in fact take political heat for remaining on vacation during the Louisiana Flood of 2016 that left 13 dead and damaged 60,000 homes, one might even argue that the lead tweet cited by Snopes is 100% accurate. Here is CNN from over a year ago (and yes, it's been a long year with a lot to forget):

Obama tours Louisiana amid criticism that he's late

Updated Aug 23, 2016

Washington (CNN)President Barack Obama toured flood-ravaged Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Tuesday, surveying wreckage that has also become a political football.

"We are heartbroken by the loss of life," Obama said after seeing firsthand the damage in the state's capital that has caused more than 106,000 residents and households to register for assistance from the Federal Emergency Management Agency. More than 60,000 homes were damaged, officials said, and 13 people were killed.

 

...

 

The flooding has created political headache for the White House as critics blasted Obama for being too slow to visit the state. He spent the previous week vacationing on Martha's Vineyard, while Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and his vice presidential running mate, Mike Pence, visited the state and handed out supplies.

"Tuesday's too late," Trump told Fox News this weekend. "Hop into the plane and go down and go to Louisiana and see what's going on, because it's a mess.

 

Will Snopes amend their "fact-check"? Maybe! After all, it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. I don't know Art but I know what I like, and that includes reliable fact-checking. Let the scuffling begin. 

 

UPDATE: Mediaite and the Washington Free Beacon flood the zone.

 

STEALTH: Snopes has revised the offending paragraphs, which now read (my emphasis in both paragraphs):

 

As damage from Hurricane Harvey continued to grow in Texas in late August 2017, some Twitter users sought to defend President Donald Trump’s response to the disaster by criticizing the actions of his predecessor, Barack Obama during similarly pervasive flooding in Louisiana in 2016:

 

The lead Tweet from Jacob A Wohl is presented as before, now followed by this:

 

Other users took that argument even further, knocking Obama for not “doing enough” to help Louisiana during Hurricane Katrina. The argument that Obama did not do enough after Hurricane Katrina lashed New Orleans, however, ignores the fact that Obama was not president at the time. Katrina made landfall in August 2005, during George W. Bush’s presidency.

 

Wow! How did all the critics miss those underlined portions? Well, we didn't - down at the very bottom is a second update from Snopes, flagged in red:

 

Updated the story to clarify the nature of some of the online criticism toward former President Barack Obama.

 

"Clarify" it?. "Correct" is the word they are looking for, but whatever. 

 

Lest you doubt, Mediaite ran a screenshot of the offending text that caught their eye. Good judgment by them, and silly of me to trust Snopes:

 

 

Left unanswered - why in the world would they have included the Jacob A. Wohl Tweet from the outset if they understood it referred to the 2016 floods?

 

PILING ON: Elsewhere the Google Cache kicks back this version of the original Snopes effort.

 

 

 

Comments

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Weren't these Snope dopes going broke?
Wonder why.

[Porchlight]

I remember way back last year when Obama and Hillary didn't go to Louisiana and Trump did. Sheesh, it's not that hard.

[-peter]

I remember Cheryl Mills in 1999 lecturing the nation in defense of BJ, "those facts, those pesky facts" which sounded great except she was lying

[RattlerGator]

Given Session's visibility fighting the good fight for the 63 million Trump voters who voted to retsore the Rule of Law, would it be rude of me to ask if he recused himself from the entire job at the same time?

Posted by: Old Lurker | August 31, 2017 at 10:25 AM

OL, you keep this up and I swear Jeff Sessions is going to pay a personal visit to Lurker's Ledge and beat the ever'lovin' hell outta some damn body.

;-)

[henry]

Fact Checker. In true post modern form the deal with no facts and enforce narrative rather than check anything.

[Old Lurker]

I just post stuff like that to get your BP up, RG.

You are going to be right up there with MM when you eventually discover that there really was no secret 3D chess involved over at the DoJ...

:-)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Old Lurker,

I look forward to welcoming you to the Veranda with me. You will have to bring a case of gin, though.

RG and I will be sitting in our comfy wicker chairs, sipping away on martinis and laughing as we watch Trump and SESSIONS run rings around the dems.

By the way, Trump has a meeting with the minority leaders either today or maybe next week. Supposedly this is about the tax reform/cuts, but I wonder if he has other informaion he wishes to share with them. HA!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/08/961666-liberal-louisiana-governor-reveals-president-trump-responded-calls-help-wow/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Owned&utm_campaign=ods&utm_term=ijamerica

[Extraneus]

The Opera browser has a built-in ad blocker, set to block ads by default. (You can un-check the setting and receive all the ads you want.)

Btw, Opera can also load Chrome extensions. And, unlike Chrome, there's nothing to log into.

(Still trying to figure out how to quit Gmail, and I'm finding FastMail to be excellent. It's a paid service based in Australia, subject to Australian privacy laws, and will not respond to anything but a lawful Australian court order before turning over any user's info to anyone.)

[Frau Regentropfen]

Mr. Snopes found a new, improved wifey ("firmly rolled and fully packed") and the original one hid money in Vegas real estate. Post divorce, they are duking it out in court. The obese tabby is probably running the place for Facebook.
May the best crook win!

[Extraneus]

Found out about FastMail here:

https://www.geekwire.com/2015/why-you-shouldnt-try-to-host-your-own-email/

Ultimately, for the moment at least, our lives are open books. Apart from my email, what my cell phone and credit card companies know about me tells the intimate journey of my everyday life. The government has ready access to all of this information and my Gmail – and all of yours as well. That pales in comparison to what you’ve shared with Facebook – I stopped using it socially in 2013. Our cultural norms of privacy simply haven’t kept up with the Internet and smartphones.

There needs to be fundamental changes to the way privacy and security is built-into email platforms, devices and applications. I’m talking to you Google, Microsoft, Apple – Facebook!

As technologists, we’ve not yet risen to the challenge of digital privacy and we’ve allowed our employers and our political leaders to auction it off to the highest bidder. There’s so much work for us to do — and to do well — for the average person to regain privacy.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/31/trump-dumped-u-s-ambassador-to-amman-at-request-of-king/?utm_content=bufferaa139&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

The diplomat grifters are nervous that Trump is willing to FIRE them.

Still remember this little comment from King Abdullah when he visited newly-inaugurated President Trump:"I remember the many wonderful conversations we have had over the years."

[Old Lurker]

MM "RG and I will be sitting in our comfy wicker chairs, sipping away on martinis and laughing as we watch Trump and SESSIONS run rings around the dems."

I will happily bring two cases of gin if you expand that circle to include Dems and GOPe swamp critters both.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Old Lurker,

Perhaps you missed this article at the end of the last page, because I posted it without realizing that a new thread had started:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/08/30/in-minnesota-four-swing-seat-republicans-decline-to-back-ryan-for-speaker/?utm_term=.013c19bc68c4

This is the first sign I have seen that all is not well with Ryan's speakership, although I have long suspected it.

Representatives usually get an earful when things aren't suiting their constituents. I surmise these guys who are NOT ultra-conservative, know where the votes are, and it isn't breaking Ryan's way.

This morning Kellyanne Conway was on Fox and Friend and pointed out how low Congress's approval is (only lower approval number is the media).

So yes, GOPe as well. 2 cases, no cheap stuff. I want Beefeater's, just like the Queen Mum.

[Threadkiller]

I remember when Snopes and the afterbirthers were inseparable.

I guess they aren't as reliable as they used to be.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/carl-cameron-fox-news-londonderry-tales-tv-production-1202543752/amp/

[DrJ]

The Wapo now checks if you are using an ad blocker. Good bye to them!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/31/jeb-bush-begs-donald-trump-come-to-dacas-defense/

Pffft.

I am ok with letting them stay as permanent, non-citizen residents. No full citizenship.

[Michael ( fpa P4F )]

Then noticed it was covered by an artist I greatly admire with a well des(e)rved, sadly posthumous, following. I listened and it struck me as a near perfect interpretation of Joni's song.
Woodstock by Eva
Performed live in a small venue apparently attended by friends and fans.
Posted by: boris | August 30, 2017 at 10:30 PM

boris - Eva Cassidy's story is heartbreaking . . . a truly gifted singer and guitarist, who passed away far too soon. A career that was just beginning to take off when she was felled by cancer.

I learned about her magical voice in 2002, and asked a co-worker who came from the DC area if he had ever heard of her. Turned out that he had been a late-night DJ for a DC-area radio station that played a jazz/blues/soul music mix, and he had been one of the first local DJ's to play her music on the radio and to promote her to his audience.

He said that she was one of the greatest singers he had ever heard, and one of the nicest people he'd ever met. You could see he was still moved by her passing some six years later.

Knowing her back story makes her music all the more impactful, and touching.

Here she is with one of her best, "What a Wonderful World", the song she sang at the end of her last performance, when she was consumed by her cancer, and could barely perform:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Oq-WQ-Sy4&list=RD0uKdHT7bquM&index=29

The ABC 'Nightline' program's story of her career is here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXU219b3Zdw

[Turn This]

Drudge links to this AP story:
"Source: Grand jury hears from lobbyist in Trump Tower chat"
which includes:
"Rinat Akhmetshin had appeared before Mueller’s grand jury in recent weeks"
https://apnews.com/3bdad0490e26494297f70d8dacbf9d7e/Source:-Grand-jury-hears-from-lobbyist-in-Trump-Tower-chat

Sounds ominous, but:
1) interview already happened and no leaks meaning nothing negative about Trump (or it wouls have leaked)
2) the only details in the article are the exact same as from a few months ago

Since Antifa and racist violence charges backfired on the Dems, they r back to Russia nothing burgers

Now might of someone not properly filed a form or did questionable financial transactions outside of the campaign? Sure. It sounds like the Dems may have done the same.

And what about alleged pressure on Manefort and/or Flynn to "turn"? Turn what? The FBI has found nothing on Russia and Trump in the past year yet people think it was hidden so well only a couple of guys briefly on Trumps campaign or a few weeks in the admin have all the juicy details?

Hopefully the deep state will continue to push fake stories at least another year while the Dems continue with their no ideas and Antifa violence platform.

[Turn This]

and i forgot to add, even after the fbi interview with an attendee, Feinstien comes out and says Trump has the potential to be a good President.

[A Facebook User]

Snopes, like PoliFact, has been a DNC false flag operation from jump.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

SIgh. Marie Harf is on Fox.

[CharlieInCO]

Boris and Natasha:

Say "moose and..." uh, nevermind.

Do you have a source for that Putin story? It looks interesting.

[henry]

Chaco, try Mother Jones for that story.

[narciso]

Except akmetchin is the one behind the dossier, they don't get to that fundamental point.

[Buckeye]

Michael (fpm P4F), even today you can't go to a high-end audiophile show and not hear Eva Cassidy.

I heard her live once in that blues club she used to perform in (maybe in Alexandria?). She was special.

[Comanche Voter]

Hey as is well known, Obama's favorite joke was, "You can call me anything you want, just don't call me late for my tee time."

[James D.]

So when is the housecleaning going to begin?

https://www.circa.com/story/2017/08/30/politics/former-fbi-agent-battling-deputy-director-mccabe-said-there-is-a-cancer-inside-the-fbi

I know President Trump doesn't have most of his people confirmed yet. I know it's hard to change cultures and drain swamps. I know it's hard to fire Federal employees.

But it certainly seems like we're at (or, really, far past) the point where the toxic Obama holdovers and Deep State bureaucrats are doing so much harm that they really need to be removed en masse, by whatever means necessary.

[henry]

Fun, video from our Chitown Lurking Unit.

[Captain Hate]

Jeff Sessions status update: zzzZZZZZZzzzzz

[James D.]

I think "ungrateful" is a pretty inadequate description:

http://www.thewrap.com/charlie-hebdo-mocks-harvey-victims-as-nazis-in-despicable-cover-photo/

Let's see who comes to their defense the next time they're attacked.

[PT]

The Snopes article correctly distinguishes between the 2016 flood and Katrina. Your article is misleading in the extreme. I fixed it for you by including the sentence before and after the one you are complaining about:

"some Twitter users sought to defend President Donald Trump’s response to the disaster by criticizing the actions of his predecessor, Barack Obama during similarly pervasive flooding in Louisiana in 2016: 'When floods hit Louisiana, Obama was too busy worrying about the tough sand traps on the golf-course to go assess the damage' Other users took that argument even further, knocking Obama for not “doing enough” to help Louisiana during Hurricane Katrina. "

[Those are revisions inserted by Snopes and mysteriously cited in their second UPDATE as an attempt to "clarify" their original story. I guess they don't do corrections. More in an update to my post (incl. a screenshot from Mediaite), a comment at 1:34 by zapt, and my comment at 2:08. - TM]

[Samuil Leygerman]

While it is unclear how many of the recent spate of anti-Obama tweets were manufactured or made in jest, an August 2013 survey conducted by the Democrat-oriented Public Policy Polling showed that 29 percent of Louisiana Republicans believed that Obama was to blame for the oft-critized federal response to Katrina. Another 44 percent were reportedly unsure whether Obama or George W. Bush was at fault, while 28 percent blamed Bush.

[Eric in Boise]

I look forward to welcoming you to the Veranda with me

If OL run's "Lurker's Ledge", maybe we can call MM's digs "Pollyanna Veranda" :)

[Old Lurker]

Only fair, Eric.

MM can even have a dress code that requires all her guests wear rose colored glasses, that way Maryrose will be right at home.

I will still supply the gin in case they invite me to visit.

[henry]

Oldest American skeletons found in Mexico. Required underwater archeology.

[Dave (in MA)]

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/274365/

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

The sun will come up, tomorrow, tomorrow....

[Frau Luegenpresse]

Infestation alert! It's worse than fire ants...

This is a source?

"Kaili Joy Gray
Longtime progressive editor and writer and fierce feminist. Formerly Planned Parenthood, Wonkette, and Daily Kos."

No thanks.

[Janet the expert 🚬]

🌺JustJoan 🇺🇸 @6thgentexan

Of course this is safe for them. Charlie Hebdo knows a team of evangelical Texans will never storm their offices shouting "Praise God"

[narciso.]

The kicker is they were subsidized by the soviet's back in the day:
www.humanrightsvoices.org/site/articles/?a=10148

[narciso.]

Yes about that:https://mobile.twitter.com/FBillMcMorris/status/903085322040475648?p=v

[DrJ]

Dave,

Thanks for the Instalink reference. This site always pulls in an odd assortment of posts when it is so linked -- some good, some not so much.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Your article is misleading in the extreme.--

Considering Maguire wrote this sentence;

The author, Arturo Garcia (@aboynamedart), does present examples that may be bots, humorists or knuckleheads thumping Obama for a slack response to Katrina.

perhaps you ought to try a different handle like say, "extremely misleading pot criticizes accurate kettle".

[zapt]

PT says "The Snopes article correctly distinguishes between the 2016 flood and Katrina."

It does now, but not before it was updated.

They added the phrase "during similarly pervasive flooding in Louisiana in 2016", and the sentence "Other users took that argument even further, knocking Obama for not “doing enough” to help Louisiana during Hurricane Katrina."

The Google cache still shows the old version.

[David, Internet Deplorable]

I did a quick scan of the last couple of days' posts and I didn't see this posted, but please forgive me if someone beat me to the punch. This is an excellent article from sundance at The Conservative Treehouse about China's economic weaknesses and how the Trump administration plans to exploit them to further the "America First" economic policy.

David

[lyle]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/identity-politics-are-tearing-america-apart-1504132735

I'll send you my last bottle of '98 Chateau Latour if you can guess who the superannuated member of the GOPe and commie-posing-as-a-moderate co-wrote this. No peekies!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Thanks, David. I read that the other day but I can't remember if I linked it.

Anyway, I suggest reading David's link.

It's why I am optimistic. I figure the same things are going on in the DOJ and they are being kept under wraps until evidence is assembled.

I see no reason to assume that this wouldn't be so. President Trump has been paying attention to the situation in this country for many years. He knows what he is doing.

[RattlerGator]

Jeff Sessions status update: zzzZZZZZZzzzzz

Posted by: Captain Hate | August 31, 2017 at 12:52 PM

You know Sessions can smack yo azz out on Lurker's Ledge, too, right?

* * *

If OL run's "Lurker's Ledge", maybe we can call MM's digs "Pollyanna Veranda" :)

Posted by: Eric in Boise | August 31, 2017 at 01:03 PM

No hell you dee-ent !?!

(Jeff, bruh, add Eric in Boise to the damn list!)

* * *

I humbly submit this for consideration:

Marple's Faith and Patience Portico

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Old Lurker,

Just a thought. What is all of the high powered dem attorneys have been lured into Mueller's witch hunt staff so that they can't defend the Clintons?

I like to think about all sorts of possibilities since Trump doesn't behave like a politician and doesn't owe anyone.

Why did Mueller meet with President Trump the day before he was named special counsel? It cannot have been to come back to the FBI. He's really too old to sign on for an extended term of service.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[David, Internet Deplorable]

Miss Marple,

I am astonished at how much I am coming to depend on (in particular) the economic analyses of things at the Treehouse. The information they provide and the viewpoints they profess are different than anything else I can find, and yet, we see their predictions playing out exactly as they claim, every time. It has other interesting viewpoints, also, but it is economics and commerce that keep me coming back for more.

David

[Buckeye]

Baker and Young. I didn't peak. I read the paper this morning.

Send me your email addy lyle, and I will send you the ship to: for the 98 Chateau Latour:)

[Jim Eagle]

lyle,

You keep that bottle since it only took me to peek at the names and had to spit.

Now how the hell do those 2 relics and founding fathers of the Uniparty join up to write that dribble? I can see them using old Red phones they stole from their time in the WH and using them once they woke up from falling asleep reading the New York Times and discussed how to salvage the power of the middle.

[lyle]

I'm sorry, Buckeye. Contest rules exclude Ohio residents from participating... ;)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

RG,

Well, that sounds nice.

I do have faith. I had faith he could win the primary, and faith he could beat Hillary. Not many did, but I did and I was right!

So, I continue to have faith and patience.

I see that Fox is now pushing their polls which say all sorts of bad things about the President, like he's tearing the country apart.

It is BS. I do not know one Trump supporter who believes that. The weasel Wallace was on and the blonde of the hour was talking to him about the President's empathy again.

Well, George Bush was a famous crier, like it did him any good when Katrina got botched up by the democrats running Louisiana and New Orleans.

Another question on their stupid poll was whether Trump hated white supremacists or the media more. Now tell me that the Charlottesville thing wasn't planned. I believe it was,, starting with the organizer being a dem plant.

All designed to cast him as something he is not. Unfortunately for their plan, we are seeing hours and hours of Texans pulling each other out of flooded homes regardless of the colors of their skin, which is how I think most decent people behave.

People also forget that the President has a lot of experience in story lines and plot arcs, courtesy of his television show and his involvement with WWE and Miss Universe.

I figure we are just past the "Washington tries to stop Trump" act and are moving onto "The Donald strikes back" portion.

I will have beautiful statues on the Faith and Patience Portico, including one of Melania in heels. And lots of gold trim!

Beefeater's, Old Lurker. Don't forget!

[Buckeye]

I'm sorry, Buckeye. Contest rules exclude Ohio residents from participating... ;)

Dammit lyle, on the same day I get a notice from the county auditor that my home has been reappraised and my taxes are going up 23%, you screw me out of the only thing I had to look forward to.

Ain't fair I tell ya!

[Eric in Boise]

I tend to be a fence sitter, so I'll probably spend a week on the Ledge and a week at the Veranda and see which one I like better.

Either of you offer valet parking? :)

[lyle]

Hmmm, Buckeye. So after the auditor notice, apparently this wasn't a typo:

I didn't peak.

;)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

David,

I really appreciate the economics/trade/commerce stuff I find on Treehouse. I don't have access to much information on those subjects (wouldn't even know where to look) but there is a reason we have such a top notch economics team.

President Trump has been railing about NAFTA for years, and he went nuts over the Iran deal. He has been paying attention for a long time.

I fervently hope the GOPe just surrenders and either goes along with him or retires. I think Flake might retire since Kelli Ward is WAY ahead of him.

Anyway, I check every day to see if there are new articles about trade and foreign policy intertwined. I think Sundance must know someone in the administration, as accurate as he is.

[Tom Maguire]

From PT, 1:01 PM

The Snopes article correctly distinguishes between the 2016 flood and Katrina. Your article is misleading in the extreme. I fixed it for you by including the sentence before and after the one you are complaining about...

From a second Snopes UPDATE discreetly tucked away at the bottom:

Updated the story to clarify the nature of some of the online criticism toward former President Barack Obama.

Those stealth updates fool 'em every time.

[Buckeye]

Hmmm, Buckeye. So after the auditor notice, apparently this wasn't a typo:

I didn't peak.

;)

Honest Injun.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Eric,

The Faith and Patience portico offers valet parking because we will have to compete with Old Lurker's Ledge and we want to win, just like Trump!

We also will have free hors d'ouerves and sweets, including my very best oatmeal raisin cookies, from a family recipe which are THE best cookies in the entire world. They even contain pecans!

Also, we will have strolling violinists playing classical selections for DrJ. Once a week we will have a jazz trio while I go to the beauty salon.

[lyle]

In case you've been experiencing an odd need to reach for a hankie:

https://ricochet.com/452097/about-a-dog/

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/08/31/merica-redneck-army-saves-natl-guard-video-from-texas-brought-to-attention-of-a-certain-cartoonist/

[Buckeye]

Dammit again lyle. First you screw me outta the Latour, now you made me cry.

[henry]

I think we need an SC to look into Comey.

[lyle]

Life is hard, man! But if it's any consolation, any time you want to swing through my neck o' the woods I promise you we'll wade deep into the cellar.

[cboldt]

Grassley News Release:
Comey Drafted Conclusion in Clinton Probe Prior to Interviewing Key Witnesses

Conclusion first, fact-gathering second--that's no way to run an investigation.

The hell you say! Same rule used by judges, outcome first, rationale later.

[cboldt]

The extent of immunity agreements in the Clinton e-mail investigation is astounding.

[Captain Hate]

You know Sessions can smack yo azz out on Lurker's Ledge, too

That somnambulant monkey doesn't want any part of me, even with a sore back. I will retract all criticism if he ever does something that illustrates he's up to the challenges of the job, so he controls his status.

A tribute to Brave Sir Ryan:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=371369

[henry]

cboldt, re immunity grants, our Chicago firend reminds:

Remind cboldt "of which we are aware "

[cboldt]

henry - yes, point taken. Of which we are [redacted]

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Sarah Sanders press briefing getting ready to start.

[Neo]

On the first day, I attended a plenary session at which, one after another, several members of the Russian Academy of Sciences stood up and presented scientific results demonstrating that the "science" -- if one can call it that -- is not "settled"; that every major aspect of the climate Communist Party Line is in doubt; that the doubt is sufficient to require that Russian cities should not gallop towards the insane policies that most scientifically-illiterate Western countries had been feeble-minded enough to espouse; and that, in any event, the cost of the Party Line was so excessive as to be unaffordable.

The biggest cheer of the day went to the formidable Academician Nigmatulin, a redoubtable 75-year-old veteran of the Communist regime, who, in a thunderous sergeant-major's parade-ground yell, brought the audience to its feet with his peroration to the effect that "The problem for Russia is not global warming. It is profiteering priests of the new religion, bloated bureaucrats and dithering democrats."

[Captain Hate]

Now tell me that the Charlottesville thing wasn't planned. I believe it was,, starting with the organizer being a dem plant.

The MFM has shown an astounding lack of curiosity about him compared to, say, Joe the Plumber. Amazing that the organizer of an event that LITERALLY TORE THE NATION APART produced so little interest. Kind of like Hodgkinson.

[lyle]

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/08/shocking-sexism-and-racism-by-leftist-professors-at-university-of-nebraska.php

I am quite certain that this was Courtney Lawton’s reference. Not content to scream stupid political smears, she called a Nebraska sophomore a “basic bitch” and associated her with fellatio. This was sexual harassment at a minimum, likely with a racist element (“hot white girl”) as well.

One more thing: the kind of vileness celebrated by Plies and indulged in by Lawton has been legitimized by Barack Obama and other liberals. Obama invited Plies to the White House along with other rappers, but Plies turned the president down.

As repellent as these people are, the story has a happy ending. Katie Mullen was back in business with her Turning Point USA table yesterday. She said that she signed up 56 students on Friday and more than 60 yesterday. The leftists’ attempt to silence her has failed.

UPDATE: The blonde-haired professor seen holding a “watch list” sign in the video is Amanda Gailey. She is an anti-gun activist best known for posting a rant that includes “f*** [our] society…,” “f*** the laws…,” “f*** police officers…” and “f*** the NRA.” Like Plies, Gailey’s work met with approval from Barack Obama. He invited her to meet with him personally when he traveled to Omaha.

Maybe Baker and Young could explain to these seemingly misguided women the finer points of diplomacy and coming together as one. Maybe they could then explain them to our former prez.

[henry]

Rumor has it no more dreamers. "sources say" YMMV

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Captain Hate,

So true. I get my information on the guy from a couple of investigative types I follow on Twitter, who have assembled quite a bit of information on the guy, who seems to have been an Obama supporter and with the Occupy movement and who was associated as a contributor to CNN.

Crickets, of course.

[Threadkiller]

It is worth scrolling a short bit through the Twitchet Zone to see the interview:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/08/30/wow-houston-grandparents-called-chick-fil-a-for-help-guess-what-happened-next/

Grandpa at no point suggests that he gonna get his Obama phone or have his mortgage paid off by Obama.

The personification of my 2012 creation: The Chick-fil-A Crowd.

[Extraneus]

I wonder if Grassley's statement might help the FBI with their worry that the Clinton email story isn't interesting enough to the public.

[Clarice Feldman]

Heh, extraneus.

[Janet the expert 🚬]

a reminder -

Comey's July 5, 2016 statement.

This bit got me - "To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."

Anyone else would be prosecuted.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

[henry]

Prosecute Comey.

[Janet the expert 🚬]

"Only facts matter, and the FBI found them here in an entirely apolitical and professional way. I couldn’t be prouder to be part of this organization." - James 'leaker' Comey

[cboldt]

Comey was planning to usurp the role of the DoJ prosecutors before the Lynch/Clinton tarmac meeting of June 27, 2016.

[cboldt]

Comey has a point - when there is no law, "only facts matter."

[lyle]

Prosecute Comey.

DoJ: [gets up, yawns, looks at watch, stares out the window, stretches back, gazes over at the sofa, decides to nap]

[Janet the expert 🚬]

a reminder about the immunity given too -

Cheryl Mills - Clinton’s former State Department chief of staff and her attorney
Heather Samuelson - Clinton aide and lawyer, she decided which emails were government business and which should be destroyed.
John Bentel - ran the State Department's information resources management office when Clinton served as secretary
Bryan Pagliano ****- Clinton's personal IT guy who she placed in the State Dept. IT section.
Paul Combetta ***- from Platte River Networks. He was the guy who went on Reddit & asked strangers how to delete emails that were archived & how to remove email addresses from archived material.

" Mills and Samuelson were given immunity in exchange for handing over their laptop computers to the FBI, with an agreement that they would not be prosecuted for any information obtained from those laptops..." **

"Bentel, in late 2010, told two State Department employees not to discuss Clinton’s email system after they raised questions with him about why she was using a private account. The department’s inspector general found that the employees “discussed their concerns about Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal email account” with Bentel in late 2010, five years before the existence of the server became known publicly. "... **

** http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/23/three-more-hillary-clinton-witnesses-were-given-immunity-by-fbi
*** https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-19/paul-combetta-computer-specialist-who-deleted-hillary-clinton-emails-may-have-asked-reddit-for-tips
****https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-personally-paid-state-department-staffer-to-maintain-server/2015/09/04/b13ab23e-530c-11e5-9812-92d5948a40f8_story.html?postshare=7441441420874605

[Buckeye]

Life is hard, man! But if it's any consolation, any time you want to swing through my neck o' the woods I promise you we'll wade deep into the cellar.

Roger that lyle:)

[Janet the expert 🚬]

Of course the decision was already made. That is what Lynch was telling Clinton.

[cboldt]

The press has signaled the narrative, Josh Gerstein of Politicao points out that Comey's July 5, 2016 statement was critical of Clinton, and damaged her campaign. Who knew, Comey was planning to sink Clinton all along.

[narciso.]

Ruh Roh:
https://thefederalist.com/2017/08/31/espn-dooms-aaron-rodgers-packers-tell-profile-celebrating-apostasy/

[Captain Haiku]

Crowded House now sings
Hey now, hey now, no DREAMers
It's over, suckas

[maryrose]

Henry and CBoldt:
That info on Comey is dynamite and may be why Presidnt Trump fired him.
Of course he overstepped his bounds by usurping Lynch 's role after she compromised herself by meeting with Bill.
Hillary never blames her curb dive for her loss.
To me it was the event that triggered the beginning of the end for her.
It was my first day of hope that yes she could be beaten.
I would be happy to make and serve snacks at the verandah

But I also reserve the right to spot Porch on the Ledge during her dinner and break times as a substitute bartender.
Clarice:
Your article that you cited is disturbing.We must receive justice.

[hrtshpdbox]

Re: the Louisiana floods, the important thing is that Obama didn't wear stiletto heels when he finally showed up.

Re: DACA, Washington Times says that Trump "faces several options, including refusing new applications but allowing the nearly 800,000 current enrollees to continue to renew their amnesty; halting the program in its tracks, which would prevent new applications or renewals, putting a two-year sunset on the program; or revoking it altogether, throwing those now protected back into a legal limbo."

I'm for choice a. (denying new kids of illegals but letting the ones who are here stay); there actually are high school valedictorians and whatnot among that group, and what their parents did in the past is obviously no fault of their own. For me, refusing new applications is stringent enough, and fair. I know others may differ.

Meanwhile, some people got their last names from people who owned slaves; those people should be torn down immediately.

[RattlerGator]

Here's my prediction so pay attention, people. The line regarding the assertion the Clinton subject isn't interesting enough to the public is a Trump Administration tell.

It means, Lurker's Ledge notwithstanding, they are on the J.O.B.

The investigation is ongoing.

Comey (remember him? tain't hearing much about him these days, are ya?) has probably flipped.

So calm the hell down, take a sip every now and again out on the Portico, and let us together watch this thing play out. We have *very* capable administrators in place. There is a methodical python-like squeeze being undertaken. To me, it appears to be geared for the 2018 elections.

The stuff that necessarily involves Congress and the workings of the administrative state in DC is murkier. But . . . the President as Chief Executive operating internationally? Sundance outlined a very nice summary the other day that had to please all aficionados of Marples' Faith and Patience Portico. The comment on that squeeze is next up.

[Buckeye]

But I also reserve the right to spot Porch on the Ledge during her dinner and break times as a substitute bartender.

Just remember I like my Jameson with branch on the side:)

[narciso.]

Why would this be:

www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-fbi-fights-public-release-of-trump-dossier-info/article/2633048

[Tom R]

The extent of immunity agreements in the Clinton e-mail investigation is astounding.

Did Comey make his decision to let Hillary off the hook before or after these immunity agreements were offered to all of her underlings involved with her illegal server? If he did it before then that almost sounds like obstruction of justice on his part.