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September 28, 2017

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lyle

NRO can eff off along wiff da EN EFF EL.

See how reasonable I can be?

henry

Well, GUS!!! And Gov Walker each public ally stated they will attend said game, stand, doff hats, hand over heart, face flag, and sing along with the anthem. The Packers belong to Wisconsin. Wisconsin has spoken via my elected state and JOM officials above. We can get new players as needed.

Extraneus

Pro Football deserves it all, bigtime. They could have easily nipped this in the bud but chose not to. Now let's see how that decision works out.

henry

And to think, last May I had the Packers Head of IT (and first IT hire) keynote at our user conference. Nice guy. The players are idiots.

maryrose

Respect is the virtue that is missing in this unholy mess.
Respect for God , country and each other.
Fans respect the ability and talent and want to see it.
Some players do not respect the fans.
The kneeling diminishes the person, the sport and the symbol of our country ,, the flag.

lyle

The players are idiots.

I don't expect many them to grasp the basics of Econ 101, but pissing off a sizable portion of the people from whom your living is earned seems like a poor business model.

lurkersusie

What a fool!

Tennessee Titans Player Has One-Word Message for Fans Upset About National Anthem Protests: 'Bye'

http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/09/985839-tennessee-titans-player-one-word-message-fans-upset-national-anthem-protests-bye/

Miss Marple the Deplorable

The culture war only matters to French as a theoretical isue. HE isn't sending his kids to public schools where they get indoctrinated with everything from climate change to gender transformation. HE isn't working where a mild approval of trump will get him thrown on the job market. (Well maybe, with NRO, it's possible.) HE doesn't have a kid serving overseas who he worries about and wants to feel like the country backs him.

Out in the real world, these things happen, over and over again. Those who live in the real world appreciate President Trump speaking out.

And as far as a money-maker on this issue, let's see NFL receipts and ratings. Let's see sales figures for NFL merchandise.

The NFL has been infiltrated by a bunch of leftists who run the league, Roger Goodell being one. They also have hired Joe Lockhart and the DC police chief. Lotd knows how many others are in the management ranks.

After seeing that a communist got admitted to West Point and is currently planning on overthrowing the government, I do not think it far-fetched to believe that the NFL has been infiltrated and is using this controversy to stir up racial tension on purpose.

lyle

Besides, how in the freaking world did we find ourselves as a country in such poor race relations after eight years of Teh Lightbringer/almost god/off-the-charts-high-IQ/messiah in the WH? I'm beginning to smell a fraud...

Centurylink Customer Service

pissing off a sizable portion of the people from whom your living is earned seems like a poor business model.

The deuce you say!

DebinGA

“starting a conversation around something that may be a little bit uncomfortable for people”

What would be an uncomfortable conversation would be a revisit of the incident that the NFL protest began on - the shooting death of 18 yo 6'6" Michael Brown - who charged a police officer head-first - after repeatedly hitting the officer in the head while he was inside his patrol car - then reaching inside and grappling for the officer's gun, causing a shot to be fired inside - and then running away a clear danger of others in the area that the officer had no choice but to pursue. Let's have that conversation with the players, being sure to include video of Brown roughing up a Pakistani store clerk who'd tried to stop him from stealing cigarillos minutes earlier.

Extraneus

Excellent, Deb. Let's see an interview with St. Colin where that's shown first.

maryrose

Deb in GA.
Bingo!
Remember how they wanted to hide the tape of Brown and the shop owner?
Later the shop was burned down.
Hands Up Don't Shoot was a fake meme that dummy athletes picked up on.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Praise for President Trump from the outgoing commanding general in Iraq:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK1nSbXXcAMU-8-.jpg:large

windansea

Stadium looks half empty to me, I thought Green Bay always sells out?

lurkersusie

Read the whole letter. Dr. Seuss books are racist.

Dear Mrs. Trump
SEPTEMBER 26, 2017 BY LIZ PHIPPS SOEIRO
Dear Mrs. Trump,
Thank you for the ten Dr. Seuss titles that you sent my school library in recognition of this year’s National Read a Book Day. (Sent second-day air, no less! That must have been expensive.) I’m proud that you recognized my school as something special. It truly is. Our beautiful and diverse student body is made up of children from all over the world; from different socioeconomic statuses; with a spectrum of gender expressions and identities; with a range of abilities; and of varied racial, ethnic, and religious backgrounds.
According to the White House website, you selected one school per state by “working with the Department of Education to identify schools with programs that have achieved high standards of excellence, recognized by State and National awards and Blue Ribbon Awards…” Each of those carefully vetted schools received ten books: Seuss-isms!; Because a Little Bug Went KaChoo; What Pet Should I Get?; The Cat in the Hat; I Can Read with My Eyes Shut!; One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish; The Foot Book; Wacky Wednesday; Green Eggs and Ham; and Oh, the Places You’ll Go!.
My students were interested in reading your enclosed letter and impressed with the beautiful bookplates with your name and the indelible White House stamp, however, we will not be keeping the titles for our collection. I’d like to respectfully offer my explanation.

http://www.hbook.com/2017/09/blogs/family-reading/dear-mrs-trump/#_

DebinGA

Still shot Of Brown a moment before he roughly threw the little clerk whose neck he's choking into the chips display without a second look.

 narciso./

We were promised an earth shattering kaboom:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mark-warner-calls-twitter-presentation-to-intel-panel-deeply-disappointing/

Janeprobably about 10 minutes after getting there

MM, how is it you know so much about David French's family?

Captain Hate

It might be a bit uncomfortable to explain to Aaron Rodgers how badly he's been tooled on this.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Jane,

I don't. However, he doesn't know much about Trump, either, so we are even.

DebinGA

Can't believe the lack of self-awareness that Cambridge librarian sarcastically reveals in her ungracious letter to Mrs. Trump.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

This link has a 12-minute vieo explaining the Scaramucci-Priebus firing and what it means if you are in the business world.

https://twitter.com/MysticMcCarthy/status/913544669027586048

Miss Marple the Deplorable

DebinGA,

You know, she could have accepted the books, held an auction for them (collectors would have played high dollar for a book with a White House book plate and Melania's autograph) and then donated the money to poorer school libraries.

But no, it was MUCH more important to write a long, rude letter and post it publicly to virtue signal to all of her leftist pals.

Pffft.

squaredance

Typical Leftist inversions: Disrespecting the the flag is an act of patriotism; acts of patriotism are acts of disrespect.

They are not even in the same solar system with the rest of us. How I pray the this will finally get through to normal Americans.

"I believe that free speech is the essential liberty — the liberty that helps preserve all others — because without the ability to call out unconstitutional actions you cannot possibly maintain a free nation"

Is pure bunk, as some Christian bakers briskly will tell you. What about their rights? What was that about tearing down statues in the dead of the night? What was that about chasing conservative speakers off of campuses?

We live in country where many people feel that they cannot speak their minds in public outside of the workplace for fear of losing there jobs, or even being attacked the street, and these vipers talk about "freedom of speech"? Great, so in the workplace let the rest of us be able to have our "expression of free speech".

So they have a "right" to do pretty much everything they want to do, and exercise that "tight" to undermine the Constitution and destroy the traditional political and social culture of America, and they are "celebrating the nation", and anyone who actually speaks up to uphold that nation and that political and social culture are somehow "anti-American", and, get this, "trampling on other people's rights", and, they seem to suppose, have their rights taken away from them for the good of the nation. I hope that Trump can highlight just what they are trying to get away with.

I must say that Trump's latest remark that the owners are afraid of the players is just brilliant. Now they are forced to come out in the open and admit that they supported this all along. They cannot just prattle about "free speech". They have to really own it now. Just brilliant--my goodness does he have their number. It just gets better and better. If he can only manage to tie the whole mess to the Directly to the Democrats and their patrons then I will be ecstatic.

What's next I wonder? They must already be quaking in fear trying to figure that out. What a master this guy is.

The whole thing is so amazing. Trump's ability to out these people as the traitors and, above all, the lunatics that they truly are is like nothing I have ever seen. I cannot say that is is "Reaganesque" because he has gone way beyondReagan. It is an amazing thing to watch, I never thought I would ever see this out of POTUS during the remainder of my life.


He is must be driving them out of their minds. Goodness, I hope he keeps this up.

Just amazing.

Janeprobably about 10 minutes after getting there

MM, no you aren't even. Please stop making things up about people. This site has never been that kind of place. There is enough factual stuff you can use against French and many others without posting things as facts that you know nothing about. I beg you.

henry

A tl:dr Miss M?

Extraneus

Nice post, square. You're not alone!

squaredance

EXT: Thanks.

Porchlight

MM, how is it you know so much about David French's family?

Wikipedia?

The guy did allow his name to be put forward as a possible Stop Trump presidential candidate.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

OK, Jane. I got carried away. I don't know that French has kids in private school.

I am pretty sure he doesn't have a child overseas in the military, or we would have heard about it.

I will leave him alone, since you know him personally.

Sorry.

 narciso./

Yes we know he threw George Zimmerman under the bus, as well as most law enforcement in the somelives matter crisshairs.

we know that Derbyshire and steyn were thrown under the bus, the last for complaining about the nature of the beatings the skydragon commissars have been adninistering

mockmook

Arghhh!!!

Just was at Amazon and they have the NFL streaming -- started automatically and took me about 5 minutes to figure out how to make the damn thing stop.

Captain Hate

Deb,

As someone wrote in the comments, that witch would have never sent that letter to Mooch, whose husband made an address of his fondness for Dr, Seuss during the last eight years. And if she had, she'd have gotten the rodeo clown treatment.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Clarice,

Thomas Wictor has done a thread on Mosab Houssan Yousef:

https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/913550281559830528

Janeprobably about 10 minutes after getting there

It has nothing to do with me, or French, who I am not a fan of. It has to do with the ongoing habit you have of reporting what people are thinking. You post a tremendous amount of very valuable stuff. But you don't know what people are thinking (which you constantly post as fact.). I'm interested in your opinion but please have enough respect for the rest of us, to not say it as fact.

I apologize for offending you but it drives me, and others, crazy.

Barbara

Locking arms is not the way that we respect the National Anthem. We stand and place our right hand over our heart, and we sing even if we can't reach the high notes.

Locking arms is what those football players did to show solidarity in Opposition To the National Anthem and our Flag.

Sorry fellas. Nice try, but no deal. I want to see you all put out out of business, having to hock those diamonds in your ear lobes and selling off your multimillion dollar estates.

DebinGA

Here's a list of games Amazon will be streaming.

mockmook

C'mon squaredance, no need to imbue Trump with magical powers.

He made a comment and the left just responded like the idiots that they are.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Jane,

I truly am sorry, and didn't even realize I was doing that. I apologize to you, as well as toanyone else I upset.

I will watch how I phrase things.

Janeprobably about 10 minutes after getting there

Thank you.

mockmook

Deb, I wonder if the auto play at Amazon is to help hike the viewership numbers?

I put nothing past the left any more.

Porchlight

Agree with squaredance.

It's not just one comment. Trump jabs from one side, then the other. The rats freak out and try to escape but over and over, time after time, Trump boxes them in.

It's like nothing we've ever seen.

squaredance

mockmock: Now tell me that this was not coordinated by the Nomenklatura. Is just a staged as Charlottesville. Trump just got ahead of them this time.

One thing is for sure: If Trump keeps this sort of think up that Race rhetoric of the Democrats will be gone for good. He has almost completely destroyed the "race card" tactic, and he has done it by marching right up to the firing line. I hope the GOP are taking notes (I know...I know).

I imagine that a lot of this at this point is to just keep the AA's on the planation lest a better economy causes them to bolt, but outside of the minority useful idiots this stuff is going to be just devastating to the Democrats. I bet even the BoBo "social liberals" turn on them, at least out in the middle of the nation. The whole thing is so vile. They have been so exposed.

The whole thing is so rich in possibilities. Trump is so smart about this sort of stuff.

I hope that we are in store for much more of this in the coming years. Can you imagine 8 years of this? Amazing!

henry

OK both teams arm locked... No crowd shots. Wonder why?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Puerto Rico is devastated. Phone system, electric grid many roads, gone. FEMA and First Responders are amazing. Governor said "great job!"

henry

Quick crowd shot... They are doing as GUS!! And Walker are. Excellent.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 44m44 minutes ago

FEMA & First Responders are doing a GREAT job in Puerto Rico. Massive food & water delivered. Docks & electric grid dead. Locals trying....

...really hard to help but many have lost their homes. Military is now on site and I will be there Tuesday. Wish press would treat fairly!

DebinGA

I will watch how I phrase things

Conjecture based on incomplete info is part of having a conversation, online or otherwise. MM sounds like someone returning from reeducation camp. Sheesh.

The Infamous Ignatz

David Vivhy French is a butthole.
I believe that is a factual statement.

Jack is Back!

I guess I am going to be in Newsday tomorrow. Sports section for all of you (that would be -peter) who get it.

Reporter roaming the visitors stands today where a few of us were sitting. He asked the lady behind me if he could ask her about our school telling our team to respect the flag and national anthem and to stand and place hand over heart. First I had heard of that!

The lady didn't want to talk about it for her own reasons which I found out about later. He then asked me my reaction and I told him first I heard that the team was cautioned or instructed but it was fine by me.

He then asked my reaction to the NFL players kneeling and I told him as a veteran, I am insulted that they would use a football game and field to protest a social justice issue such as BLM. Time and place for exercising your rights to protest but why during a football game the only social justice is to hit the other guy harder than he hits you.

Asked my name and where I lived. So, I expect it to be totally distorted by the time I read it, although the guy was a young and appeared sincere reporter. Yeah, I know, they all act like that.

DebinGA

Very brave of you, Jack. Kudos

Porchlight

Given that French is a past president of FIRE, a critic of leftist indoctrination in public schools, and a committed Christian, I would have put the odds of his kids (adolescent and younger according to Wiki) being in public school at near zero.

Sure enough, here's a local article stating that French is a longtime board member of Zion Christian Academy, which his children attend.

http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/news/local-news/james-bennett-column-columbia-attorney-war-hero-david-french-conservative

JOMers state opinion/speculation as fact routinely. Just part of commenting on a blog. "In my opinion" is inferred. I thought Miss M's comment was quite reasonable.

Jack is Back!

Forgot to add that the lady behind me was a mom to one of our players who she adopted from Columbia. (My SIL has two adoptees from Columbia). She is a Vet also and very much a Prog or Anti-Trumper because kids have told her son the ICE are coming for him and too go back where he came from, called him a Spic (really? Haven't heard that term of endearment in 50 years).

Asked her why she hadn't told the school administration which actions would be unacceptable in a Catholic school. Just a mumbled reply, no real answer because its all Trump's fault and that is why she has no issue with kneeling and protesting, etc.

Whe I mentioned this to Frederick, he told me everyone gets insulted and hazed on the team. Rite of passage and then you laugh about it. Reminded me of my many, many rites of passage playing ball at the school and college level.

If the kid's mom feels that way I hope the kid doesn't turn into a snowflake because losing that game 44-14 won't improve with that kind of player fear.

 narciso./

The later consequence is more likely:


http://telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/29/britain-must-prepare-real-possibility-us-war-north-korea-report

 narciso./

That's a nuking from orbit, sadly mind arson has affected her.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Porchlight, Deb,

Thank you, but I sincerely do not want to cause dissension or insult people. This place is my primary place to come on the internet, and if I am offending people I simply wil label things as speculation.

Porchlight, thanks for finding out about the school. I was pretty sure I was right about that, but I didn't know for sure, so should have backed it up with research.

henry

Jack,mFrederick is correct. As I recall, that kind of harassment is standard issue teenage boy stuff. Learn to dish and take it. No big deal at all.

Barbara

I agree with squaredance as well. President Trump connects with the American people. He's not afraid to give his strong voice to our concerns.

As Porchlight said, it's like nothing I have ever seen. And I am so very grateful to be a witness to it. It has been long overdue.

 narciso./

They didn't get the memo:

http://telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/28/un-tells-burma-end-military-operation-against-rohingya-muslims

Jack is Back!

Isn't that UN Watch response at the UN Human Rights Council from a few years back? I think I remember seeing it then and when I read the European papers it was as if the person who made the remarks was an Israeli sympathizer and paid publicist so we should all disregard since it was the jooooooos trying to find a way to legitimize their apartheid.

Really, if we are going to boycott anything can we start with Europe? My wife may not agree but its a start.

DebinGA

How long can youth football last, given the reported "concussion-brain injury" connection + litigious atmosphere?

exdemocrat

thanks for the display of self-righteous arrogance, Jane

exdemocrat

oops - just my opinion, of course

exdemocrat

not scientifically factual like all of your posts

Deplorable Honoria

All right, so I have re-read MM comment re: French, to see what was so offensive.

Other than an assumption that he sends his kids to private school, which I have no intention of verifying (waste of time), I cannot see anything either made up or objectionable.

As a certified #NeverTrumper in DC, it is completely reasonable to assume that "[French] isn't working where a mild approval of Trump will get him thrown on the job market."

But there are lots of us "out there" who are forced to keep our opinions to ourselves for the fear of loss of livelihood as supporters of policies that a few years ago were supposed to be mainstream: low taxes good, national sovereignty imperative for national security, biology, not gender-whatever societal construct determining what is human sex.
These opinions today are seen as pro-Trump, therefore an anathema.
Back way in Eastern European commie-land we had more freedom of expression

So, what exactly was so offensive about MM comment? I don't get it.

 narciso./

From one of the 10 real reporters

https://mobile.twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/913449271596322816

Deplorable Honoria

"MM sounds like someone returning from a re-education camp."

MM, you have an opinion. It is sweet you don't want to offend people, but by having an opinion, you are bound to. There is no way around it. Might as well stick to it.

Barbara

narciso,

Before my Kindle's battery runs out, I want to thank you for your post last evening with the link to John Del Vecchio's page and comments on "Burning History" and Ken Burns latest docu-drama this time assaulting the history of the Vietnam War.

I've been reading his analysis of each episode and find it so informative. One of my brothers was quoting from Burns film and praising his work. I sent him the link and explained that this was just one of the reasons why I'm not a fan of Ken Burns' work. Haven't heard a peep since. That doesn't mean that I've persuaded him by any means. But when one goes into battle, it's awfully nice to have some ammunition along.

Thanks for the help. If you have any more references along those lines, please post them.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Stephen Crowder and his producer infiltrated Antifa out at the University of Utah. They were wired and had hidden cameras. The video at this link is well worth watching.

https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/913567714110611457

Texas Liberty Gal

Jane - how do you know some of MM's posts drive other people nuts?

MM - Whatever you've been accused of hasn't bothered me a bit. Keep on keeping on!!!

exdemocrat

MM - you are a treasure here.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Please do not get in an argument over me. I am sure I rub some people the wrong way. I know I irritated Old Lurker the other day.

I am off to get some links. That Crowder one is a real doozy, especially at the end when they offer it to ABC's Nightline and are brushed off, even though they watched it with the police!

 narciso./

Thanks honoria, I only knew him from a series of novels he write some 20 years ago, he doesn't seem to have a particular axe to grind.

Moat who is an expert on the run up to the war, victory forsaken and his book about the phoenixrogran will be convening a seniniar tomorrow, with many of the experts include tom vallely one of the partucipanta in the series

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/09/national-anthem-problem-resolved-i-think.html

Deplorable Honoria

Not getting in argument over you MM, just voicing MY opinion.
Hope it is still allowed.

 narciso./

Barbara, got NY refences mixed up. And moyar is the author.

Neo

"lock arms"

Damn, now NFL games are "safe spaces" where we all sing "Kumbaya"

Someone's rushing, Lord, kum ba ya,
Someone's passing, Lord, kum ba ya,
Someone's gun 9 half tandem 61 Y middle S comeback hint H M, Lord, kum ba ya,
O Lord, kum ba ya.

art in newport

No post by Miss Marple has ever bothered me in the slightest.

Deplorable Honoria

Narciso, I think you mean Barbara.

Barbara

I can't find the name Moyar. Is it for a different link?

Barbara

Gotta recharge the battery on the Kindle. Catch you later on the ledge.

Mystic

test

Porchlight

Lol, Neo!

 narciso./

The link is here:
http://.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/09/ken-burnss-the-vietnam-war.php

Int of the problems is burns books has no footnotes, it lists sources but no references to where the quotes came from. Only a very eagleyed. Reader can note when they are didnissung an argument

squaredance

Having been in the vicinity during that period, and actually know the real history, I could not make it past the isrt half of the second episode of Burns' Vietnam propaganda. The North Vietnam Propaganda appratchicks could have written it. It is just horrible. The question is why now?

Mystic

Long time lurker...first time poster...testing the waters and thinking that NFL players standing tonight wAs a good sign that this protest stuff is coming to an end?

Old Lurker

MM 9:18

Yes, you did irritate my the other day. I think anyway.

But the absolute truth is I cannot recall what it waa about!

I think our pattern is I snap...then you snap...then a few hours later we are best friends...

Jack is Back!

That "Rex Parker Does the NYT's Crossword Puzzle" website linked by Outhouse is a doozy. One of the best I have visited. If you like Xword puzzles, it is a must.

Thomas Collins

I actually agree with the Tennessee Titans guy. At some point, if I can't brook what the NFL is doing, I need to say bye to the NFL.

henry

Mystic, stick around. The crowd did not lock arms. They honored the anthem an flag in the traditional way. Score 60,000 - 1024. Then rain delay? Wimps!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Welcome, Mystic!

I think it will taper off but the owners are going to have to suck it up and put the kabosh on it. Not all will.

It is my opinion, looking at the upper management hires, that there has been a deliberate attempt to infiltrate the NFL. I have no proof other than Goodell, Joe Lockhart, and the DC police chief all having leftist backgrounds, but there have been other actions, such as allowing Koepernick's pig-policeman socks, the push for women in announcing and reporting (and in lockerrooms), etc.

I am not a big pro sports watcher, so the changes jump out at me since I only watch a game maybe once every 3 years, thus the change reaches out at me.

Listening to Rush now on Hannity. "The Left has hijacked the game." That is what he thinks.

Thomas Collins

Of course, that's not what the Titans guy is really saying. What he is really saying is that the NFL players will do just fine without those fans who have concluded that the players are spoiled brats. To which I reply: We'll see.

 narciso./

Good grief:

http://deadline.com/2017/09/eric-holder-tv-series-main-justice-jerry-bruckheimer-cbs-1202178856

Clarice Feldman

Well, JiB, I'm looking forward to Newsday's description of yoou --eno Nazi, probably.

Rapone link very interesting.

Listen fellas, if this NFL thing isn't resolved quickly a lot of you are going to face long Honey Do lists every Sunday when you used to be parked on the soafe. Just saying.

Deplorable Honoria

Hey, you want to be truly offended/irritated by an individual opinion?

Here we go: I cannot imagine why grown-up, highly intelligent, well-read, educated people would watch any sport whatsoever.
I typically stop lurking on JOM during the football or "whatever game" season.

Ducks.

henry

Weather delay.... oh noes! Global climate change interrupted our pancefest!!! Oops.. manly arm holding football participation trophy event!!!

Jack is Back!

As a VN Vet and member of VVoA, we are aware of Burn's twist on the facts and truth. Not even worth criticism. Very much a liberal spin to save the guys who created it all, Kennedy and especially Johnson and his kitchen bomb run planners. Assholes and idiots. More good airmen were lost because of those eejits than should have been.

In fact, they gave you hero McCain.

henry

Honoria, I watch football for the carnage. I watch futbol for the beautiful game.

Deplorable Honoria

Ok, carnage, I get :-).

Captain Hate

I was wonderful when this mentally ill roided up freak would show up again. Typically he says enough complete nonsense that there are a few nuggets buried within but he needs to cause somebody's dead pool to win right after Bill Moyers:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2017/09/28/jesse-ventura-border-wall-goes-statue-liberty-must-come/

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