Lock 'Em Up!

Jared Kushner and other White House staffers have been using private email accounts as well as their official '.gov' accounts. Now, a private email account could include 'gmail' or 'hotmail', which means the server and related security are handled by heavy hitting tech firms. However, Politico [seems to] mention in passing that Kushner is on a private server [But he's not; see UPDATE]:

Presidential son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner has corresponded with other administration officials about White House matters through a private email account set up during the transition last December, part of a larger pattern of Trump administration aides using personal email accounts for government business.

Kushner uses his private account alongside his official White House email account, sometimes trading emails with senior White House officials, outside advisers and others about media coverage, event planning and other subjects, according to four people familiar with the correspondence. POLITICO has seen and verified about two dozen emails.

“Mr. Kushner uses his White House email address to conduct White House business,” Abbe Lowell, a lawyer for Kushner, said in a statement Sunday. “Fewer than 100 emails from January through August were either sent to or returned by Mr. Kushner to colleagues in the White House from his personal email account. These usually forwarded news articles or political commentary and most often occurred when someone initiated the exchange by sending an email to his personal rather than his White House address.”

The original set-up doesn't sound too dastardly:

There is no indication that Kushner has shared any sensitive or classified material on his private account, or that he relies on his private email account more than his official White House account to conduct government business. Aides say he prefers to call or text over using email.

...

Still, Kushner and his wife, Ivanka Trump, set up their private family domain late last year before moving to Washington from New York, according to people with knowledge of events as well as publicly available internet registration records. At the time, Kushner — who served as a senior campaign adviser — was expected to be named to a White House role, while Ivanka Trump was publicly saying she didn’t plan to work in her father’s administration.

Kushner's representatives declined to detail the server or security measures on it.

People familiar with the account say it was primarily set up for Kushner’s personal communications, but he has used it to communicate with acquaintances outside the White House about matters relating to Trump and the administration, according to people who have received messages, as well as with his White House colleagues.

Well, Hillary made the same argument - she wanted to keep her personal emails off the government system. Of course, her solution - keeping all her emails off the government system - was problematic. It doesn't seem that Kushner has gone that route.

[Kushner attorney] Lowell said Kushner has adhered to government record-keeping requirements by forwarding all the emails to his account, though POLITICO could not verify that.

What does it mean? Who knows?

UPDATE: Politico sort of danced around the private server question, or else I misunderstood "Kushner's representatives declined to detail the server". In any case the NY Times has this:

A government official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about Mr. Kushner’s email habits, said that unlike in the Clinton case, Mr. Kushner had not set up a private server to house the personal email account. While Mrs. Clinton used her personal account exclusively, the official said that Mr. Kushner does use his government account.

 

 

Comments

[DrJ]

Yikes!

[Jim Eagle]

Prosecute him but only after you do the same to Hillary and all the other Zerobots.

[narciso.]

Sounds like fake news to me, but we'll consider it a matter.

[Captain Hate]

Politico: where the Uniparty goes to tattle on people about meaningless crap.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

What it means is that someone official is possibly looking into Hillary's emails and this is a pre-emptive "everybody does it" story.

I trust nothing Politico writes, personally.

[narciso.]

This is the same politico, that made excuses for accountability to lerner who went into zapruder film level detail re prices charters which involved got charters. Frock them.

[narciso.]

Govt business, yet five years we haven't seen but still frames of the real Benghazi tape.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--What does it mean?--

It means the drunken old bovine bag lady still has these nitwits carrying her water for her.
Why?

[Jim Eagle]

Slaap kekker, tot morgen.

First day w|o NFL and I don’t miss it.

[Porchlight]

No NFL for me, either. This is the second season I'm skipping.

OT for Frau: I can't find prune plums anywhere in town. :(

OT for peter: Drinking Carpano Antifa, on rocks with twist of lemon. :)

[Porchlight]

Antifa, lol. Antica.

[Clarice Feldman]

It's not forbidden for officials to have personal accts for personal business.

[narciso.]

This and the jupiterian reversal is the more interesting story

http://telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/24/german-elections-2017-live-exit-poll-results-angela-merkel-seeks2

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Clarice,

It's the same trick they used for Betsy DaVos flying in a private jet, which she owns and pays for.

"Betsy DaVos has been flying in a private jet!! Scandal!"

"Jared Kushner has a private email account!" (Just like Hillary you are supposed to think.)

That's why I hate Politico.

[Janet 🚬]

an old comment -

Just so we're clear when there is a Republican administration...

From now on every SoS can have their own private, off-site computer setup so they can connect with ONLY their own chosen crew & do whatever they want with no interference.

No more prosecutions for mishandling classified info either. Who cares about that anymore. It apparently doesn't make any difference.

And lying at Congressional hearings is a-okay.

The IRS may demand info on all opposition party organizations. They can obstruct & deny applications & hold them in limbo.

All Department heads can have phony email setups using made-up names like, Richard Windsor or Toby Miles or Diane Reynolds or Elizabeth Carlisle or Henry Yearwood or David Kendricks or Lew Alcindor to avoid FOIA requests.

A Republican administration will be able to regulate-out-of-existence all businesses it dislikes. It can demand no regulations on businesses it approves of.

**
Richard Windsor - used at the EPA,
Toby Miles - Lois Lerner,
Diane Reynolds - Chelsea Clinton,
Henry Yearwood,David Kendricks, & Lew Alcindor - Eric Holder
Elizabeth Carlisle - Loretta Lynch

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

President Trump has changed his Twitter banner to the American Flag.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

[-peter]

Porchlight: also sipping some vermouth with a spritz of Lillet for variety! Cheers!

[sbw]

AP: The use of personal email to discuss government business is a politically freighted issue that factored prominently in last year's presidential election.

Freighted?

Somehow forgot to mention BleachBit.

[Clarice Feldman]

I love lillet--so refreshing. My French accent is so bad though when I asked for it years ago in a lovely restaurant in Paris where they spoke no English I got a glass of milk.

Nytol

[lyle]

Sipping '08 La Serena Brunelllo. Bon Sera!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Leche de Elsie, '17.

[narciso.]

So which pollsters will be eating crow:
http://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4914358/Angela-Merkel-widely-tipped-fourth-term-office.html

Speaking of our governor has some explaining re that tragedy in Hollywood.

[henry]

Water on Tap.

[Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma]

Pemberton's Pride. 2017. Lite.

It really sings to me.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Decaf coffee with half and half.

I am trying to stay up long enough to not wake up at 3 in the morning.

[abadman]

The fourth verse of the National Anthem has always been my favorite. At least ever since I learned of its existence.

I would like to think it is a favorite of many veterans because they see their service as payment toward a debt they owe to this country.

As a result, I honestly don't know whether to despise or pity the kneelers, but I'm done with the NFL

[narciso./]

Well this will keep you up:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/pak-nukes-hidden-at-nine-places-at-risk-of-being-stolen-by
terrorists/articleshow/60820704.cms

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

More Pacific Rim of Fire stuff:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4916094/Fears-grow-Bali-s-volcano-erupt-time.html?ito=social-twitter_DailyMailAU

[narciso./]

Wait what:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/argentina-experts-confirm-nisman-was-murdered-name-possible-suspect/

[Sidwhite]

Re my 6:44 comment on previous page about NFL rules Cllarice posted. I didn't read up far enough. The reference text is in RULE 5 Section 4 Article 8 prohibits personal messages. Search the rules for "pregame" . It is a little over halfway down the 12 hits.

[jimmyk]

Leche de Elsie, '17.

That was a good year.

[sbw]

Bulleit Bourbon.

Always a good year.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://cbs4indy.com/2017/09/24/impd-investigating-after-uber-driver-accidentally-discharges-gun/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=59c86b5704d3010d6153d138&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Downtown Indy.

Example #157 of why I won't use Uber.

[narciso./]

So the folks who supposedly identified the equifax ha k was fire eye, the ones who designated fancy bear and the other supposed Russian hackers

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://prospect.org/article/how-she-lost

This is a long article by Stanley Greenberg

When you read this, you can see that Greenberg had spotted some of the difficulties f her campaign early on, but what comes through to me in this article is that none of the people working for Clinton were very bright and they were completely out of touch with voters.

Porchlight and I read a lot of those campaign emails Wikileaks released and I believe she would agree with me that above all else, you were struck by how boring and stupid most of the people on the campaign seemed to be.

[narciso./]

Of seriously, among other things they traded politico links as if it was the golden calf, in addition to the petty score settling and the occasional actual nugget of fact.

[lyle]

Wisenheimers! But Ig wins in the lol thingy. 😬

Honestly, this wine is drinking beautifully. Salud!

[Threadkiller]

Having Jamie Gorelick as a lawyer won't serve Kushner well.

He remains on my "do not trust" list for that one reason.

[Frau Heil dir im Siegerkranz]

TK - If memory serves me, Jamie "Build My Own Wall" Gorelick gave up her $$$$$ gig because of complaints from her lefty friends.

I memory does not serve me, serves me right. ;->

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Cowboys haven't commented on what they are going to do at tomorrow's game. One of the local channels is doing a poll and 65% disapprove of the players actions. None of the players on the Texans team took a knee. #Texasrocks I'll be shocked if the Cowboys allow it.

[Frau Heil dir im Siegerkranz]

If preview does not help, it's time to just head for the comfy chair.

I hope I am not dragged to another Super Bowl party. Ever. I hate watching the game, the celebrities and hearing carpy music.

[jimmyk]

Frau, I think she only stepped aside with respect to the Russia matter, which is being handled by Abbe Lowell. She's still his lawyer on other matters.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Well, tiime for me to go to bed.

Nytol!

[Another Bob]

Tomlin's postgame comment about Villanueva was absurdly stupid.

But Pittsburgh sports media is reliably lefty and Tomlin is black, so he'll get a pass.

[narciso./]

For some reason, this wonderful software doesnt allow an interesting link about the equifax/
fireeye kerfluffle.

[Frau Rechtsverdreher]

Thanks, jimmyk. The report I read said her friends took her to task for helping the Trump family. I guess the Kushners are a separate matter--and billing opportunity!

[Threadkiller]

I honestly do not know if she still works for Kushner or not, Frau.

She should have never darkened his doorway if he had the same people sense of his FIL.

[Threadkiller]

You might try destroying the link into an unusable line of text, narciso.

;-)

[Threadkiller]

I see Jimmy's response now.

He needs to let her go.

[Threadkiller]

http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/09/are-the-dems-planning-to-dump-sen-mccaskill/

[narciso./]

That was freudian wasnt it, yes I doubt trust wilier Pickering on either side of these transactions, for reasons I've explained before.

The site is called hacker noon, among other details it points out at best gross failure of due diligence to deliberate malpractice among fire eye employees

[Frau Rechtsverdreher]

Gaack!

Gorelick, a Democratic backer of Hillary Clinton, is an attorney at Wilmer Hale. Former FBI Director Bob Mueller, who is overseeing the Justice Department's Russia probe, was a partner with Gorelick.

One big happy family. I remember her hidden in plain sight--and protected from harm--on the 9/11 Committee.

[Frau Rechtsverdreher]

Making room for the Night Crew.
G'nyt

[narciso./]

Yes but you missed best part, in a 'good news everybody' sense, she was represntibg an Arabian prince gainst a class action pointing out enabling parties to September 11th, with info likely gleaned from commission hearing.

My current suspicions about wilier relates to a XVI Bono calculation among some of their cluents

[Captain Hate]

I knew the woman I bought Teddy from has Browns season tickets and is a big DJT fan. This was on Zuckerberg:

To the #NFL #NFLOWNERS #NFLPLAYERS :
As a season ticket holder, I will not watch or attend another game until kneeling for the anthem stops! This is why you stand for the flag! #clevelandbrowns

Underneath was a picture of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.

[narciso./]

To clarify, the Venezuelan portion of the travel ban only applies to govt and security personnel.
Ahickwe bezos doesnt point that out.

[narciso./]

I would have preferred that the talk have been about the travismockiaham re maverickcare and the looming north Korean threat, buff they would be better off trading shuffle recipes

[jimmyk]

One big happy family.

I'm tellin' ya, it's like 'Chinatown, Jake.'

[narciso./]

Shocker, and everyone is faye dunaway.

[Ralph L]

The bozo at the NRO Corner failed to quote the lines preceding "hireling and slave." It's obvious that it refers to the British soldiers, who Americans probably (and rightly) considered to be mercenaries and conscripts, not volunteers like our militias.

Talk about triggers. Niggard imaginations.

[DrJ]

Your (almost!) daily Wretchard:

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/09/24/the-spreading-cloud/

[art in newport]

Good; it looks like Miss Marple is getting her rest tonight. No waking up at 3am.

[daddy]

In light of Hillary grandstanding about sending the Navy, and MSM talking heads like this creep at MSNBC damning the Government, a company I am familiar with just sent out this update on the situation in decimated Puerto Rico that I think you guys will find interesting:

The situation in Puerto Rico remains extremely fluid, but as of today, we have landed our first relief flight in San Juan. This flight was boarded with over 160,000 lbs of supplies...water, MRE's and crew snacks, for our company personnel living in Puerto Rico. Our ramp continues to be powered by generators and manned by a skeleton crew. Communication remains problematic as well. Yesterday we were able to transfer 7 Global telephones up from South America and are in company personnel's hands now. When we receive word from SJU managers that the supplies have been distributed and they are able to receive an additional flight, flight ops will be ready to launch another flight. Currently, SJU ATC is only able to accept 3 aircraft/hour.
BQN remains closed except for military and hurricane relief flights. Our BQN ramp is closed and will re-open when all personnel are able to travel to the ramp safely.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Good morning, all!

daddy,

I don't think anything enraged me lately as much as seeing Hillary saying the President should send the military to Puerto Rico and flagging Secretary Mattis about it in her tweet, like no one was doing anything.

First of all, it was an absolute lie (like we should be surprised) as the last I saw we had multiple Navy ships, coast Guard cutters, helicopters, and cargo transport planes there.

Secondly, FEMA is on the ground there and is coordinating everything. It's hard to get news out due to the cell phone towers being down.

Here's an article detailing the current state of things:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-dam-failing-puerto-rico-20170923-story.html

Here is something interesting from that article:

Rossello and other officials praised the federal government for planning its response in detail before the storm hit, a contrast with what Puerto Rico has long seen as the neglect of 3.4 million Americans living in a territory without a vote in Congress or the electoral college.

"This is the first time we get this type of federal coordination," said Resident Commission Jenniffer Gonzalez, Puerto Rico's non-voting representative in Washington."

What? They are being treated BETTER and they are PRAISING the Trump Administration? How could that be? Well, in that case, disappear any news about this and let's move on to talking about how Trump is racist.

[henry]

Rocks shipped to pyramids via canals, newly discovered papyrus explains.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/24/trumps-wall-would-protect-hundreds-of-miles-of-critical-habitat-and-environmentalists-want-to-stop-it/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Another lone wolf arrested in the Parsons Green bombing:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4917042/amp/Man-20-seventh-suspect-held-Parsons-Green.html

[Bubarooni]

From a quick view of the news this morning it appears that the new line of attack is something along the lines of 'Americans are suffering in Puerto Rico but the racist administration is doing nothing to help them.'

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

And now, a few words from Black Rifle Coffee Company:

https://twitter.com/mrdurtal/status/912190319302647808

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Bubarooni,

There is no doubt that that line of attack is a democrat coordinated one.

They are taking advantage of the communications being down so that they can create their own mythology about the disaster.

Again, here is Conservative Treehouse's report along with photos of what's going on:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/24/clueless-hillary-clinton-tweets-about-u-s-military-hurricane-relief-efforts-in-puerto-rico/

[Jim Eagle]

I am enjoying a cup of Black Rifle covfefe right now. Really good.

Get in K-cups and first thing I do when I get up is make a cup. I don't think those guys kneel for the anthem.

It may even be a good idea to have one of them at every game or at least the guy with the flame thrower.

[Jim Eagle]

MM's 6:36 is more evidence why we all missed a bullet last November. Good Lord is that skank tone-deaf or what? Chelsea must be writing those tweets for her.

[rse]

TLG-your mentioning the Texans where no one took a new reminded me of the time the owner's family rented a house where my son worked for the beach service. He comes home at lunch (boy could eat 4 grilled ham and cheese and then microwave lasagna hence the human eating machine nickname) and looked up macnair.

He was so sure he would get a good tip doing the multiple umbrella and chairs all week for a billionaire. It was $20 or $30, but nothing spectacular. Good lesson for him though.

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

Link from MM at o6:36.

Has any one asked the people of Haiti about the aid they didn't get from the Clintons?

Thanks for all the links you find, MM.

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

The Clintons vs Haiti.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437883/hillarys-america-secret-history-democratic-party-dinesh-dsouza-clinton-foundation

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

pagar,

You are welcome! I will go look for more. I was reading the COnservative Treehouse news thread but mostly today it's about the Strange/Moore thing, what is going on with Bannon, and more stuff about the NFL.

One thing I did learn is that the DC police chief, the one who was in charge during the Seth Rich investigation and the violence during the Inauguration, resigned in late January and took a new position. Guess who she is now working for.

The NFL!

This is why you have to pay attention to every damn detail anymore. There is so much shady stuff going on that it's almost a full-time job.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 26m26 minutes ago

So proud of NASCAR and its supporters and fans. They won't put up with disrespecting our Country or our Flag - they said it loud and clear!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 20m20 minutes ago

Many people booed the players who kneeled yesterday (which was a small percentage of total). These are fans who demand respect for our Flag!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 14m14 minutes ago

The issue of kneeling has nothing to do with race. It is about respect for our Country, Flag and National Anthem. NFL must respect this!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 9m9 minutes ago

The White House never looked more beautiful than it did returning last night. Important meetings taking place today. Big tax cuts & reform.

[RattlerGator]

Good morning, everybody. What a crazy weekend.

The bozo at the NRO Corner failed to quote the lines preceding "hireling and slave." It's obvious that it refers to the British soldiers, who Americans probably (and rightly) considered to be mercenaries and conscripts, not volunteers like our militias.

Talk about triggers. Niggard imaginations.

Posted by: Ralph L | September 25, 2017 at 01:27 AM

You . . . sly devil. You been talking to OL, Ralph? Tell da troof !!!

[Porchlight]

above all else, you were struck by how boring and stupid most of the people on the campaign seemed to be.

True, MM. Zero talent and mailing it in, just like their candidate.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Oh, look. Linda Sansour, leader of the stupid Pussy Hat/ Vagina march and noted lefty activist who looks really repulsive in an hajib, gives us her words of wisdom:

Linda Sarsour‏Verified account @lsarsour

You would think North Koreans are lining up in the droves to come to the US but THEY ARE NOT. Smh. 🤦🏻‍♀️ #NoMuslimBanEver

[DebinGA]

What's The History Channel gonna air if their "Aliens Built the Pyramids" shows are kaput?

[Porchlight]

Lol

[Momto2]

Also a big fan of Black Rifle coffee - may have first heard of it here? I have both the beans to grind and the pods.

Off to make my first cup now...

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Patrick Svitek‏Verified account @PatrickSvitek 21h21 hours ago

.@TedCruz on #GrahamCassidy: “Right now they don’t have my vote, and I don’t think they have Mike Lee’s either." #TribFest17
138 replies 515 retweets 999 likes

====================================

I am suspicious of the Bannon/Cruz connection and as I said the other day, there is a reason that Bannon is no longer at the White House.

Bannon has an interview on Hannity tonight but I doubt Hannity will ask any probing questions. He's not really that type of interviewer.

[DebinGA]

NFL must respect this!

What law supports DT's "must"? I think he needs a tweet-taster, like food-tasters of old.

[narciso./]

Yes its the Katrina template, dialed to eleventy,
https://takecareblog.com/blog/an-apology-to-tillman-and-blackman

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Mark Knoller‏Verified account @markknoller 2m2 minutes ago

Individual with "several firearms" arrested near WH yesterday AM, says @SecretService. Turned over to DC Police. "Investigation is ongoing."

===============================

If the media didn't run non-stop Trump hate, perhaps these people who are either disturbed or possible terrorists wouldn't be inflamed.

[RattlerGator]

DebinGA, I think you may (may!) not understand what is happening here. Have y'all seen this from September of 2014?

The NFL should have its non-profit status immediately revoked while at the same time ending the giant tax scam which makes teams so valuable

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 20, 2014

The valuation of these NFL franchises has been skyrocketing. Shad Khan bought the Jacksonville Jaguars a few years ago for less than $800 million. They are now valued at $2 billion.

Is it possible this NFL stuff wasn't just a diversion? Just an attempt to force the idiots on the leftwing to give up more Pavlovian responses?

I suspect there is, after all, a very definite method to his series of tweets. I think the NFL has been baited into a truly stupid response and . . . #MAGA 45 has produced yet another winning tweetstorm.

This GIANT TAX SCAM discussion *is* a winning discussion, wouldn't y'all agree ???

[Davod]

MM. That DC police chief was also the person who drastically cut gang crime by changing the name of the gangs to community groups which meant their crimes did not get reported to the Federal gang crimes data base.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

DebinGA,

Why does "must" indicate a law? It's an auxiliary verb like "should."

In this case, he feels they "must" change because if they don't, there will be bad consequences, such as loss of revenue and viewers.

I "must" get some work done around here this morning. There is no law that governs that, just simply what I feel is productive behavior.

[Captain Hate]

From the Horde:

In Pittsburgh here. The sportswriters who live in the liberal bubble are all missing the earthquake that just hit Steeler nation. They, as the logo coffee mug crowd, see the Steelers as standing up (or kneeling) against some sort of racism or bigotry.

The real people, the people who vote, are pissed. The Steelers just did the unthinkable... they just became the second most popular team in the city behind the Penguins. People are mad, people are pissed.

This was a dagger to the teams fans, and none of these idiots can see it. If you want evidence, go read the responses to the steelers official twitter account, then go read their beat writers and sports media in pittsburgh... total disconnect.
Posted by: Reality Man at September 25, 2017 08:14 AM (xOBRH)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

RG,

Good catch on that old tweet! I had forgotten that gem.

Hmmm. We are getting ready to discuss tax reform, too.

[narciso./]

Not unlike the capitol police, who put pressure on the awan bros, he may get a cupcake.

[Appalled]

RG (at 8:22):

the internet term for what you describe is called "trolling". I also think you are right on the money on what's going on here. (And good find on that prior Trump tweet).

I think I will watch soccer games for a while. I don't like politics in my football, and am not happy that the President and certain players think its a good place for it.

[DebinGA]

I readily defer to your understanding of the NFL, RG. Can't get my uninformed mind around the (to me) absurd idea of the NFL enjoying "non-profit status".

[narciso./]

So the foreign exchanges should be interesting today,

[Captain Hate]

This GIANT TAX SCAM discussion *is* a winning discussion, wouldn't y'all agree ???

Absolutely; those assholes lobby 24/7 to not have this discussion. This is the one item to kick Goodell's fat ass out the door on.