Meeting The Antifa

Matt Labash, writing in the Weekly Standard, spends time with a right-wing provocateur and meets the antifa.

Berkeley

As white supremacists go, Joey Gibson makes for a lousy one. For starters, he’s half Japanese. “I don’t feel like I’m Caucasian at all,” he says. Not to be a stickler for the rules, but this kind of talk could get you sent to Master Race remedial school.

And it gets worse. The founder of Patriot Prayer—a Vancouver, Wash.-based operation that sponsors rallies and marches promoting freedom and First Amendment rights along with all-purpose unity—also spews hippie-dippie rhetoric like “moderates have to come together” and “love and peace [are] the only way to heal this country.” Joey tends to sound less like an alt-right bully boy than a conflict-resolution facilitator or a Unitarian Sunday school teacher.

I should say we are not the target audience for Joey Gibson:

When Joey draws antifa out to show themselves, it’s not really conservatives he’s trying to reach. Conservatives already loathe antifa, he says. Rather, Joey’s interested in appealing to good, honest middle-of-the-road liberals. He likes them and believes there are plenty of them still out there. They’re just not terribly vocal at the moment when it comes to suppressing their own extremists, who seem hellbent on suppressing everyone else. As with some of the rancid elements of the right, when the moderates are quiet, extremist voices become amplified. “I’m also trying to help conservatives understand that they have a warped perception of liberals, because the good liberals are keeping quiet.” Joey says. “You go on YouTube and see thousands of videos of social justice warriors acting like crazy Batman because that’s what gets the views. You’re not going to see a video of a normal liberal making sense, you know?”

Good luck to him. And the tide may be running his way, now that earnest progressives like Pelosi feel obliged to denounce the antifa. I assume her new posture is a response to sincerely non-violent left-wing protestors are fed up with having their rallies hijacked by antifa thugs, rather than right-wing denunciations, but whatever it takes.

 

Comments

[Porchlight]

TM! How does one keep up?

[Clarice Feldman]

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/09/justice-scalia-on-the-very-human-realities-in-arpaios-arizona.php

[Clarice Feldman]

I assume Pelosi's change of heart is motivated by internal polling, but I'm old and mean.

[Porchlight]

More to the topic...I work with some seemingly unreachable SJWs, but I also work with some old school liberals who think of themselves as progressive but who are pro-free speech all the way and who are decidedly uncomfortable with the antifa branding. Maybe we are making some headway. I hope so.

[henry]

I thought Pelosi's change was the latest in her senility.

[rich]

Clarice-

and right on that point!

It was coordinated-media, other politicians. Some word went out.

[macthenaif]

Pelosi's apparent change of heart occurred within days of an Appeals court ruling giving DOJ access to a website used by Antifa for fundraising, planning, and coordination. (Can't recall the case or exact date, but about two weeks ago.)

[Porchlight]

Antifa ain't doing Dems any favors.

Watch this and see who's right: antifa or your lying eyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kGsYv1CdrI

[narciso.]

Wheatgrass jamb juice,

In the whole absurd tableau, does meet the flintstones, nit cone to mind?

Interesting they are adapting the alienist with dan bruel as kreisler (he was baron zemo in civil war)

[Captain Hate]

I think it's significant that Pelosi is breaking with the MFM, assuming they still love Antifa, while the GOPe still has the Gas Chamber's hand rammed up their pansy asses.

[Buford Gooch]

Riots cause conservatives to gain ground. It has ever been that way. The fun part of watching the lefties denounce antifa is the looks on their faces as they are forced to swallow their bile.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Here's the story about friendly meeting Trump had with Rep Lee & Rep Green

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-has-friendly-meeting-with-two-texas-democrats-who-called-for-his-removal/article/2633283

[macthenaif]

I'll bet there are photos and correspondence linking Pelosi and her staff to prominent members of Antifa in the Bay Area. Several of them appear to be politically-active teachers.

[rich]

thanks narciso. I'll have to give it a try.

[rich]

Posted by: macthenaif | September 02, 2017 at 11:49 PM

it was august 16th for the original request and a more limited request was granted subject to some court stipulations august 24th.

http://www.insidecounsel.com/2017/08/26/what-the-dreamhost-doj-battle-says-about-search-wa

a write up

can't find a linkable copy of the order.

[rich]

he was great in Civil War.

[Man Tran]

Iggy, if you're still around, don't forget that little black pump can I sent you. It will loosen up any rusted or threaded joint. Like TK said, best to let it work overnight.

[narciso.]

He was a very subtle villain, sort of the way victor drazen would actually be in real life (sokovia is supposed to be in balkans) hiddleston is too over the top, Redford was too familiar.

[rich]

...hiddleston is too over the top ...

this is me, emulating Steve Rodgers, handing you, in the role of Nick Fury, a 10 while we are on the bridge of the Helicarrier.

[Captain Hate]

It's pretty funny that McRINO's in Italy badmouthing Trump while he's busy meeting with people in Houston. Can there be any bigger disconnect by the political class in Congress and their whore cheerleaders like Jennifer Rubin from the people they purport to represent?

[rich]

Posted by: Captain Hate | September 03, 2017 at 01:00 AM

I find the whole thing sleazy in the extreme. Not that he should be bedridden, but a brain tumor ... one would think that the people around him would want to be more circumspect.

And I'm trying to figure what it is that the Uniparty and NeverTrumpers actually want? A party without a base?

[rich]

and I'm trying to recall something. When was it that the Dem emails got released and was there any analysis to come up with a time frame for the collection?

[Captain Hate]

rich,

When my wife was receiving chemo treatments for breast cancer, it wiped her out. She complained about not being able to think straight for long periods after that. Granted that was over twenty years ago and I'm sure that treatments have been improved to lessen the side effects. But for McCain to be receiving chemo for brain cancer, unless they're surreptitiously just giving him a placebo, compels me to believe that he would be out of it for a longer time than his statements indicate. IOW like everything else involving the GOP, I feel like we're being lied to.

[Captain Hate]

And on that happy note, Nytol.

[daddy]

Speaking of truly important competitions:

Stinky II wins Alaska State Fair Giant Cabbage Weigh-Off

[rich]

the collection was from January 2015 to May 25th 2016 and targeted 7 DNC officers.

WikiLeaks released the collection 22 July 16 ... right before the DNC Convention kicked off. Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigned as DNC chair 24 July 16.

[rich]

BOOM! Shit just got real

https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us2000aert#executive

[rich]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/03/north-korean-earthquake-triggers-fears-new-nuclear-test/

[rich]

The Norks are making some kind of announcement at 2:30 EST ...

[rich]

SK estimates are in the 100kt range ...

[glasater]

I'm closer to NK than you are, rich..

Yeah, it is unnerving.

[Ralph L]

Do I want to know who Gas Chamber is?

[rich]

It is the moniker that Captain Hate came up with for the US Chamber of Commerce.

[BR]

Narciso, in an earlier thread I wrote Soros is connected to the Atlantic Council, IIRC.

Here's the link showing the Soros connection to the anti-Russia Atlantic Council, where Dmitri Alperovitch of Crowdstrike is a member (nonresident senior fellow with the Cyber Statecraft Initiative at the Atlantic Council's Brent Scowcroft Center on International Security).

Another member of the Atlantic Council is Sr Fellow Evelyn Farcas, who may be one of the 13 oeufs or connected to that deepstate group trying to oust Trump. MSNBC 3-28-17 clip where she brags about her role in urging her former colleagues and people on the Hill to "get as much intelligence as you can" on Trump.

[BR]

Here Scott Ritter describes the origins of Crowdstrike.

Dumbstruck - How Crowdstrike Conned America on the Hack of the DNC
Aug 31, 2017

"Kurtz resigned from McAfee in October 2011, and within a month was brought on by Warburg Pincus, a private equity firm, as an Executive in Residence. Kurtz was slated to head up a new cyber security company, CrowdStrike, which Patrick Severson, a Managing Director at Warburg Pincus, was in the process of underwriting to the tune of $26 million in Series A funding.

Kurtz poached a number of senior executives from McAfee to join him at this new startup company, which he named CrowdStrike. But the jewel in CrowdStrike’s crown was the man around whom the company’s operating ethos would be constructed - Dmitri Alperovich. Alperovich left McAfee in mid-September, and by the end of that month was presenting his vision for cyber security at an event sponsored by Brookings. Alperovitch helped co-found CrowdStrike with Kurtz and another McAfee alumnus, Gregg Marston. While Kurtz, Marston and Severson’s names populated the SEC filings submitted by CrowdStrike in December 2011 in regard to its funding efforts, it was Alperovitch’s cache that made it all possible."

(The rest of the article demolishes Alperovitch's "cache" - Crowdstrike investors should take note.)

[BR]

Warburg Pincus, LLC, the company which started Crowdstrike in 2011 (as did Paul Walburg the Federal Reserve System in 1913), and a history of the Warburgs.

"Crowdstrike" - such an arrogant name.
Sounds like Antifa and ISIS.

Who the hell were they thinking of striking.

[daddy]

Toxic Femininity Hides Jealousy and Corruption

Clarice as usual covers a lot of ground here but she did not include the recent revelation from the WaPo's Religion expert Sally Quinn, that Quinn regularly goes to seances so that she can chat with her dead husband Ben Bradlee via a medium. That got me thinking---If the WaPo and Sally Quinn are such great fans and promoters of feminism, how come Sally needs to constantly dredge up a dead guy from Hell to chat?

[daddy]

Loved this logic by Scalia in Clarice's 11:36 PM link, of Scalia's thinking in regards to Arizona's (and by extension Joe Arpaio's) efforts in trying to control their borders:

Scalia: "Arizona has moved to protect its sovereignty—not in contradiction of federal law, but in complete compliance with it. The laws under challenge here do not extend or revise federal immigration restrictions, but merely enforce those restrictions more effectively. If securing its territory in this fashion is not within the power of Arizona, we should cease referring to it as a sovereign State."

(Emphasis added)

Scalia concluded with a question:

"Are the sovereign States at the mercy of the Federal Executive’s refusal to enforce the Nation’s immigration laws? A good way of answering that question is to ask: Would the States conceivably have entered into the Union if the Constitution itself contained the Court’s holding?"

Brilliant.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Woke up to news of the NK blast.

[rse]

Me too MM. I have said before the diva has a roommate this year from SK. I suspect this year will be quite an awareness of that peninsula.

Wait until hubby awakens. Bet I get a lesson on atomic technology and hydrogen bombs in particular. I think he does that in revenge for all the history lessons I gave the kids when we travelled he had to listen to.

[rse]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/03/north-korean-nuclear-test-confirmed-in-major-escalation-by-kim-jong-un

Quite the news.

[Momto2]

Good morning all!

Enjoyed Pieces as always, Clarice!

First thought upon hearing the NK news - today has been designated a National Day of Prayer by our President. It was/is for the Texas floods but I'm sure all will be praying for wisdom as he decides how to respond.

[BR]

Crowdstrike's $1b poof

There will not be another Gulf of Tonkin
or an anarchist shooting a crown prince or a Pearl Harbor or a Clinton-provided nuclear capability to NK or any other provocation to war.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/03/two-seismic-events-in-north-korea-are-a-suspected-nuclear-test-possibly-one-explosion-one-collapse/#comments

Good overview, plus good information in the comments.

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

Clarice, Thanks for very informative Pieces.

[BR]

*

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://twitter.com/abc7elex/status/904144408572043264

Contains short video of the black women who were in yesterday's selfie shot.

[rse]

Hubby's awake and says it was "boosted fission" which is on the path to building a true hydrogen fusion bomb, but is not there yet.

Hope that's correct.

Hope son can still come home. I made two briskets yesterday so that they would be thoroughly yummy today while I concentrate on two other fav's--grits casserole and guacamole.

[Buckeye]

Thanks Clarice, I didn't know how truly vile Sarsour was.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

This week's Fox News Sunday panel includes Marie Harf.

No thanks.

[Ralph L]

How do you make a grits casserole that doesn't coagulate or congeal or whatever it is that grits do?

[cboldt]

Heh - missed the new thread, again. Enjoyed BR's remarks and education here on Crowdstrike. Part of the "Russia" puzzle, but I'm not sure they are driving it, any more than the hired-gun "expert" is the driver in a litigation context.

I found a couple of lines in the OP article to be exceptionally good.

Blaming Patriot Prayer for provoking antifa into attacking them at their own events is a bit like blaming black marchers for provoking racist Alabama policemen into creasing their skulls with billy clubs for traversing the Edmund Pettus Bridge.

Not that anything published in the Weakly Standard will make so much as a dent in the national psyche.

[cboldt]

Sunday morning comedy shows will likely be on Trump's need to "do" a Texas photo-op twice, and Miller's draft of a "reasons to fire Comey" letter. Mnuchin on Commie Chris Wallace's program, where Wallace will manufacture a difference between Trump and Mnuchin on debt ceiling increase or something, and continue driving phantom wedges between Trump and his cabinet.

[cboldt]

North Korea has conducted a major Nuclear Test. Their words and actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous to the United States..... @realDonaldTrump : 7:30 AM - 3 Sep 2017

..North Korea is a rogue nation which has become a great threat and embarrassment to China, which is trying to help but with little success.
@realDonaldTrump : 7:39 AM - 3 Sep 2017

[BR]

Hello, cboldt :)

I'd say Crowdstrike is more than just an "expert" and hired gun because of their direct link to Atlantic Council, Soros, Pinchuk /Ukraine / IMF / Clnton Foundation / harvesting of baby parts in Ukraine and elsewhere. Crowdstrike is part of the whole agent provocateur cabal to start WWIII to hide their crimes. They're really desperate, but they will fail.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6xozja/my_greataunt_got_to_meet_president_trump_and_he/

The great aunt is in the iconic picture of the woman in the car with her hand on President Trump's arm.

Comments get side-tracked on the evil of bike lanes in Austin, but if you go about half-way down you get the comments about the President and the great aunt.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

More on Korea:

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 5m5 minutes ago

South Korea is finding, as I have told them, that their talk of appeasement with North Korea will not work, they only understand one thing!

[cboldt]

BR - I agree Crowdstrike is part of it, and maybe an essential part (as an expert is usually an essential part of litigation). My point was that I don't view Crowdstrike as driving, initiating or controlling the coup attempt. The more powerful government players are the likes of Comey, Brennan and Clapper, along with their inner circles; and the elected players in the NWO class, which is the vast majority of Congress and the press.

[cboldt]

MM - The press will proceed to accuse Trump of setting a red line vs. NK, and not following through.

[Marlene]

Good Morning! I woke to the NK news also. Hubby asked if I heard the coyotes howling in the night,I said no. The dog is in his fenced area,pacing back and forth,my spidey sense is freaking out.

[James D.]

Great Pieces, Clarice!

[BR]

cboldt at 8:02. Totally agree.

If you've ever felt the satisfaction of deveining a shrimp before cooking it, that's how I feel about vanishing the evil :)

[Kaiser Derden]

he's wrong that conservatives have skewed view of liberals ... we all have seen plenty of moderate liberals when discussing moderate subjects ... but on any hot button issue they are all in lock step with antifa and remain silent THEN because they know they will look insane ...

[Old Lurker]

test

[Clarice Feldman]

Thanks.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The problem with liberal ideology is the same one as the problem with islam; a moderate in either camp is simply a detuned version of an authentic one. There is a straight, intersectionless freeway from a moderate liberal to a Marcusian Marxist. The social liberal's (as opposed to the classic liberal) holy Koran, has been and remains at its heart Das Kapital.
Bleeds there a moderate heart that does not believe and seek to compel all of us to live in a society based on "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs"?

As cboldt noted awhile back James Burnham perfectly described the unbroken and inevitable road down which the Western "liberal" will always eventually wander which ends up in one of Marx's smoking ruins.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Chemo brain is a very common side effect and to my knowledge there is nothing they can do about it nor are chemo options notably different than they were 20 years ago for the vast majority of patients.
One problem with brain cancer is most chemos do not cross the blood brain barrier so they have to be introduced directly into the cerebro-spinal fluid.
Not sure how McCain would be galivanting around the world while doing that. Perhaps he has elected not to since it has very little effect on time to death.

[Tom Maguire]

I also work with some old school liberals who think of themselves as progressive but who are pro-free speech all the way and who are decidedly uncomfortable with the antifa branding. Maybe we are making some headway. I hope so.

That reminds me of a recent NY Times story about the antifa where their readers appeared in the comments to be mostly anti-antifa.

If liberals can't protest anything without riots that does tarnish their brand.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Thanks for the reminder Man Tran. I'm hoping the power steering fluid marinade the Pittman arm has been stewing in the last couple of weeks will help.

[cboldt]

Walter Becker of Steeley Dan died.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Antifa is embarrassing and counterproductive; that is all. If they polled well Pelosi and the rest of the left would still be praising them as counter protesters "standing up to hate and racism".
Trump haters will never admit it but it was his calling out of the moral equivalency of commies and Nazis that forced whatever distance the Dems are now putting between themselves and their enforcement arm.
If antifa settles down and deescalates will we need any greater proof of the direct nexus of Dems and the commie thugs and their coincident interests?

[cboldt]

Donald Fagen Interview in 2016. He's a real character.

What do you wish someone had told you about the business you're in?
As a kid, I figured that maybe 20 percent of the population were lying, predatory snakes. It turns out it's upwards of 90 percent.

[Threadkiller]

Ig, I left more ideas at the end of the football thread.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Bannon was correct on NK. What preemptive military option do we have that does not carry a political and humanitarian unacceptable cost or risk?
Fatass knows that and he knows we know he is not insane and any actual use of his military will bring the fire and fury raining down, and so we have a stalemate.
Trump's sensible course is to abandon appeasement and hurt Fatass as much as possible and turn the tables on the Chinese by using their pet thorn in our side as an excuse to put the screws to them, turning their chubby asset into a liability.
No previous president could see that?

[DrJ]

Your (almost!) daily Wretchard:

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/09/03/the-end-of-containment/

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Thanks TK. I'll have a gander.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

choldt,

On Fox just now they said they are unsure what the "one thing" is.

Bolton is on pushing for regime change and having South Korea take them over. I would like to see his plan for this. Talk, as I have said, is cheap, especially when you are not the one in charge.

[cboldt]

Donald Fagen Gives Update on Walter Becker's Health - August 2, 2017. Fagen names a young guitar player he has been working with, Connor Kennedy.

[cboldt]

MM - Fox and the rest of them are trying to put Trump on the hook of NK only understanding military force - as saber rattling. It's part of insinuating that Trump drew a red line and didn't enforce it. Then they will say Trump is a hypocrite for criticizing Obama.

[jimmyk on iPhone]

"Loved this logic by Scalia"

Althouse has a thread on Posner's retirement, where she quotes him as saying how the only decent SCOTUS justices are Breyer and Ginsburg. Just shows how far gone he is from once being a "conservative." Some try to claim he's libertarian, but I see no evidence of that. A cynic might say he knew he couldn't get nominated to the SC as a conservative, because of his paper trail, so he made himself a liberal. Good riddance.

[cboldt]

Ignatz - exactly. NK isn't truly isolated, any more than California is. It is approximately a state of China.

Westerners have little appreciation for the eastern mind and culture. Generally, they do not see or act as "individuals." Many things abhorrent to western thought (e.g., massive loss of life in service to the hive) are natural and normal to eastern thought.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

cboldt,

Yes, which was my cynicism about Bolton. There is a reason he's not in this administration.

The President is currently on a phone call to Abe of Japan, according to Twitter.

[Extraneus]

Those guys were serious perfectionists. I've seen a few videos where they explain how they put songs together, brought in people to do specific small parts, etc.

Here's one where Fagen explains how he came up with Maj7 blues for "Peg", and here's a great discussion on "Deacon Blues."

They weren't just jamming to catchy riffs.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://cbs4indy.com/2017/09/03/noble-winner-malala-to-speak-monday-at-depauw-university/

I hope my granddaughter gets to hear her.

I also have sent CBS 4 an alert to correct their spelling of Nobel. I see it is an AP story so maybe sbw can check and see if the misspelling came from the Associated Press.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Oh, good, here's Karl Rove coming up to give us HIS take on North Korea.

I hope President Trump does something so as to end this parade of experts telling me what he should do.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

LOL! There's apparently an article, but I won't link to Salon.

Salon‏Verified account @Salon

Time to give up on identity politics: It’s dragging the progressive agenda down

[cboldt]

Ext - I have a huge respect for SD music. many people dislike it, but that's music for you. Perfectionists, and often played pros "against each other" until they had the track that suited them.

[Threadkiller]

Time to give up on identity politics: It’s dragging the progressive agenda down

I Hope BungDuster is lurking.

[Appalled]

Iggy:

In your cosmology, there is no such thing as a moderate. Period. There is just liberal, conservative, and liars.

You can understand why I might not be so thrilled with that viewpoint.

[Captain Hate]

Trump's sensible course is to abandon appeasement and hurt Fatass as much as possible and turn the tables on the Chinese by using their pet thorn in our side as an excuse to put the screws to them, turning their chubby asset into a liability.
No previous president could see that?

The ignorance of all administrations going back to at least Slick on dealing with NK certainly supports the existence of the hive minded Uniparty. I'm sure the turds in the State Department punchbowl made significant contributions.

Maybe The Rupert and Brats Sunday Infotainment Hour should have a permanent panel of Harf, Rove, Neera Tanden and Juan.

[cboldt]

Thanks for that "Peg" music theory piece. I can't recall watching anything of Fagen explaining while at the keyboard, and that was both musically fascinating, and technically impressive as he naturally switches between scales and chords to make his points.

[Captain Hate]

many people dislike it, but that's music for you.

I don't dislike it; don't find it as interesting as others do is more like it. I don't automatically hit the presets on my car radio when one of their songs come on.

[Captain Hate]

I remember when Posner used to be the NYRB's go-to conservative on legal matters to offset Tribe. That was a long time ago.

[Threadkiller]

How can a moderate be bothered by other viewpoints?

The middle is where the scale pivots and has no weight of its own.

[JimNorCal]

Here in the (climatically) moderate SIlicon Valley our temps will finally dip below 100 after a heat wave. Keep cool DrJ!
No air con for us so we've sweltered.
Hopefully this is not due to divine warning after my neighbor-citizens pulled the lever for Hillary and other Dem miscreants last Nov ...

[Momto2]

I like this, TK! Plus, they are usually pompous and *so* much better than those with solid, strong viewpoints.

How can a moderate be bothered by other viewpoints?

The middle is where the scale pivots and has no weight of its own.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

TKm

I think people can't be pigeonholed so easily, since opinions vary on every single issue.

[Momto2]

Saw this on Twitter and liked the analogy.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://twitter.com/AmericanHotLips/status/904171122308067328

Short video of a couple who met President Trump yesterday. Really cute!

[Momto2]

The President tweeted this compilation of photos accompanied by Lee Greenwood's great song! Very sweet and touching...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/904160894661296130