North Korea With A Better Bomb?

North Korea with a missile ready hydrogen bomb? OMG.

With that in mind this hardly seems like the time for the US to walk away from its trade deal with South Korea. However, in an odd way this could develop favorably: if the US relationship with South Korea seems rocky China might see a diplomatic opportunity to woo South Korea by reining in North Korea. 

Obviously the US pays a price worldwide for being seen as an unreliable ally. But suppose a few years from now China has engineered a military coup in North Korea and seen to their denuclearization, thereby forging a much tighter bond with South Korea. Is the US better off? Is the world better off?

Metaphorically this is a bishop sacrifice in chess - its wisdom depends very much in the specific board position and the opportunities in subsequent play. Not to mention the skill of the players, and I am sure there are many who would not be in a hurry to bet on Trump and TREx in a match agasint the Chinese.

Comments

[-peter]

What frightening news to wake up to.

[Jim Eagle]

Second.

-peter,

Did one half against Oyster Bay and we beat they 7-6, played to nil-nil draw 2nd half against E. Rockaway. Frederick got in for a bout 10 plays as wide receiver against E. Rockaway. Roslyn was other team of the 4 but our guys looked damn good for being seeded 14 in Division 4.

We only go as far as Port Jeff this year. We only play Nassau schools pre-season.

[hrtshpdbox]

It's frightening, yes, but all the U.S. can do about it is exactly what we've done in the past, i.e. nothing. Kim will have to attack somewhere (and it seems his only real target is the United States) before we'll retaliate. If we act first, most of the rest of the world will consider it an unprovoked and unjustified attack and, as much as we'd like to ignore what the world thinks of us, we need allies for trade and political stability. Kim is a smart mofo, but so is Trump - his recent "fire and fury" comments were exactly right despite the caterwauling from both sides of the aisle. Still, we're stuck - there's no route to engineering a coup, the military's hands are necessarily tied. The only solution I can think of (besides waiting for Kim to actually strike somewhere) would be to convince China that it's fine with us if they occupy NK after Kim's regime falls, but that would require China to give a damn, which they don't seem to.

[Clarice Feldman]

If we intercept one of his missiles over the Pacific will the world greenies complain we harmed the environment?

[Captain Hate]

Say what you will about McCain and Romney, but at least they never went on a post-election-loss book tour complaining about why they lost. Even Al Gore reinvented himself as an expert in climatology. Yet this "strong feminist icon" continues to play the victim.
Posted by: Aunt Luna at September 03, 2017 10:56 AM (Zd2ZF)

It's always about her.

[hrtshpdbox]

The problem with interception is that it's far from foolproof, which is probably why we didn't try to shoot down the recent missile they lobbed over Japan. Much, much better to ignore that missile than possibly demonstrate a military weakness.

[Captain Hate]

It's frightening, yes, but all the U.S. can do about it is exactly what we've done in the past, i.e. nothing.

"Nothing" would be an improvement over bribing him to feed his citizens, which then doesn't happen.

[hrtshpdbox]

Agreed, Captain, and we wouldn't be in this situation today if not for the idiocy of our policy for so many years. If you haven't watched this one in a while, it's a great refresher (and less than a minute).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TcbU5jAavw

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Russia is opposing sanctions and any military action, which as, Fox just said, puts them on the "do nothing" side of the equation.

[Threadkiller]

Sounds like Russia is the "moderate" in this equation, MM.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Touche, TK!

LOL!

[Jim Eagle]

They threaten us but their first strike and number one target is Seoul.

[Ralph L]

Squeezing China with rising tariffs seems to be our best option.

[henry]

Speaking of things burning up Los Angeles, last night Barbara mentioned her neighborhood was was in a voluntary evacuation zone. Hope all is well with her.

Any notes on that fire?

[Extraneus]

I have fantasies of a thousand drones flying around NK and one of them finding a fat drunk target.

[rse]

Speaking of Posner showing his true colors and beliefs, anyone else noticed cafe hayek and George Mason doing the same? http://cafehayek.com/2017/09/deirdre-mccloskeys-preface-jeff-tuckers-right-wing-collectivism.html

Trump as symptomatic of "rightwing collectivism"?

Of course I happen to know ch and posner have something in common--being fellows of the Hoover Institution.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

A guy on Twitter said that NK set off that nike test as Xi was speaking at that conference they're having, embarrassing him.

We will see if that has any consequences.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Nuke test. I wish it was just a running shoe test.

[hrtshpdbox]

RIP Walter Becker; I always enjoyed Steely Dan's intelligent jazz/rock despite the slightly antiseptic feel of it (still have every one of the LP's).

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Chad Pergram‏Verified account @ChadPergram

Trump leaving church, asked whether he would attack North Korea: "We'll see."
8:41 AM - 3 Sep 2017

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.jsonline.com/story/opinion/contributors/2017/09/03/trump-we-must-fix-our-self-destructive-tax-code/629158001/?utm_source=&utm_medium=&utm_campaign=hs

President Trump has an op-ed in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

Link tweeted by Paul Ryan. I wonder if he's getting the message.

[Rocco]

Can you show me the shine of your Japan
The sparkle of your china, can you show me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAEphHf0P-c

RIP Walter Carl Becker

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

From the last thread;

Iggy:

In your cosmology, there is no such thing as a moderate. Period. There is just liberal, conservative, and liars.

You can understand why I might not be so thrilled with that viewpoint.

I thought moderates did nuance, Appalled.
In my cosmology there are many colors of the rainbow; just look at my avatar.
Many "liberals" of the Scoop Jackson variety have recognized to lack of effective stops on their ideology and have modified or jettisoned it to the point it is no longer an ideology.
Then there is the sea of moderates like you who may be vaguely aware of and even slightly uneasy with the intellectual and moral relationship that social liberalism, Marxism, Fabian Socialism and all the rest of the leftwing isms share but who choose to ignore in the unwise and unfounded belief there is some mythical stopping point that prevents the two lines converging.
Millions more drifting in the liberal doldrums have no clue what the roots of their beliefs are; only that all the "smart" people they know believe the same thing and also that they feel really bad for poor people and the rich are mean and greedy and everyone who is rich is someone who makes one dollar more than they do; until they get a raise then the borderline ratchets up commensurately.
The liars actually tend to be the self aware leftists like Pelosi et al who conceal, poorly, their totalitarian temptations behind jaw-jaw.

So I of course don't think you're dishonest at all, Appalled. You have always been scrupulously honest, IMO. You come by your doofusheadedness honestly and above-board.

[lyle]

My favorite SD lyric?

California tumbles into the sea

Well, everything west of I-5 (and south of Napa, natch) and not before all JOM commenters and lurkers have left the state...

[Frau Bombenerfolg]

Kim does not trigger my maternal instincts.
I bet the "recipe" for our neutron bomb is still in some drawer.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://nypost.com/2017/09/02/in-this-part-of-the-us-people-are-rooting-for-trump-more-than-ever/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&sr_share=twitter

[Barbara]

henry,

The fire was on the ridge last night, but was stopped. They were able to fly helicopters and have Night vision goggles so that helped.

The fire is tricky. It jumped some retardant last night and is threatening Burbank which is just over the hill as the crow flies. So far only voluntary evacuation order for us, and no new evac orders this morning. Cars packed and backed in the driveway just in case. But so far, so good.😬 Thanks for asking.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 28m28 minutes ago

I will be meeting General Kelly, General Mattis and other military leaders at the White House to discuss North Korea. Thank you.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea.

9:14 AM - 3 Sep 2017

[cboldt]

Donald Fagen's Tribute to Steely Dan's Walter Becker - Rolling Stone
He concludes ...

I intend to keep the music we created together alive as long as I can with the Steely Dan band.

[Jim Eagle]

I wonder if a NNEMP strike is on the table. That is a Non-Nuclear Electro Magnetic Pulse generated bomb or missle or even from another air platform.

Wipe out their electronics and supply grids. Even those underground.

[DrJ]

Personally, I'd like to hear that NK's submarines suddenly are disappearing.

[Ralph L]

JiB, to neutralize their stuff at the DMZ, wouldn't it do the same to Soeul? That's the problem with any kind of effective attack.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I hate that this crisis came on the weekend. Lelant Vitter is no better than Shep, except he doesn't cry.

ALso, I see they have dragged out a new set of "experts" to tell us what Trump MUST do.

They just had on some retired Navy captain who used to work for Cheney. His advice was to get off Twitter and deal with intelligence experts.

Pffft.

[Jim Eagle]

RalphL,

I thought their launch sites were further north. I know the test site for the Nuke was north of Pyongyang.

Anyway, you can target locations using a drone or cruise missles to avoid any collateral overlap.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

RIP Michael Douglas.

[Beasts of England]

Walter Becker was running around town on the evening of a show and had to hail a taxi to make it to the gig. He gets in and tells the cabbie to take him to the show, telling him that he's in the band.

The cab driver remarked 'Steely Dan - they had the stupidest lyric I ever heard in any song that ever has been written.' Becker replied 'You're kidding - what was that?' The cab driver responded with 'Is there gas in the car? Yes, there's gas in the car.'

RIP Walter Becker. A seriously underrated bass player, a fine guitarist and accomplished songwriter.

[Clarice Feldman]

MM, that news is nowhere online.

[GUS NO LONGER WHITE...I'M SUNBURNT]

I'm currently in Denver, spent yesterday with mucho family at AIR FORCE v VMI slaughter. One botched point after from perfection 62-0.
Walter Becker died?
Michael Douglas too???

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Clarice,

Just saw it on Twitter. My apologies if it's false.

[lyle]

"I think the people down the hall know who you are.

Get along, get along, Kid Charlemagne."

[rse]

henry mentioned this story and I did not know what he was talking about.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/03/548276480/blind-usc-player-executes-perfect-snap-in-game-debut

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/03/president-trump-responds-to-dprk-nuclear-test-by-confronting-dprk-economic-enabler-china/comment-page-1/#comment-4339853

[boris]

I have seen clickbait on some websites that falsely imply some celebrity has died. As in "You will be shocked at Clint Eastwood's last words!"

[GUS NO LONGER WHITE...I'M SUNBURNT]

"you've been telling me you're a genius since you were 17, and in all this time I've known you I still don't know what you mean"

[Thomas Collins]

In discussions about renegotiating the trade pact with South Korea, President Trump will no doubt have in mind the impact of the renegotiation on North Korea matters.

Korea is the longest war in which the US has been involved, if I recall correctly. Kim may precipitate bringing the war to an end one way or another.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

boris,

That might be what the Twitter user saw. I just saw the tweet which I repeated here.

I will be more careful to check sources.

[GUS NO LONGER WHITE...I'M SUNBURNT]

Went to the AIR FORCE football game, with a FED-EX colleague of Daddy's. He flies to ASIA all the time as well. USAF Academy grad, and close friend of my Former USAF, current State Dept brother.
Niece marched on field with her Squadron. Awesome awesome trip to Colorado, hiked way way too much.

[henry]

Gus, enjoy yourself! That sounds awesome.

[Captain Hate]

I have seen clickbait on some websites that falsely imply some celebrity has died. As in "You will be shocked at Clint Eastwood's last words!"

It seems like every website is loaded with trash; not to be a shameless suckup but TM is pretty good at keeping things under control. Levin's site features a CNN newsfeed which never stops generating WTFs from me. Even American Thinker had some clickbait about some Lebanese porn star that ISIS is upset about; naturally I had to check her out: massively inflated funbags and typically boring porn. I'm sure the deeply closeted homos in ISIS concentrate on the men.

[lyle]

"Show business kids makin' movies of themselves
You know they don't give a fuck about anybody else"

[Captain Hate]

Michael Douglas too???

Massive MoDo bender status: In Progress.

[Jim Eagle]

Gus,

The only games us USAF vets care about are Navy and ARMY and the same for them. CINC trophy only one they want to win. Glad you are enjoying your time in CS.

We are having a real downer for the closing weekend at The Hamptons. Rain, humid but in the 60'sF. But still they are out and about in their i8's, Miserati's, Ferrari's, Lambos, McLarens, Nazi-mobiles and my favorite, the Bentley cabriolet. Come tuesday they will pare all that down to the ocassional Ferrari and Bentley but back to the normal parade of white vans with ladders on top.

[narciso]

There waz a similar bit of fake news re Dwayne nohnson.

[narciso]

Great pieces btw clarice

[Old Lurker]

Same here, Jack, but without the fancy cars.

[Jim Eagle]

Belated Kudos to Clarice for her terrific Pieces which once again in an orderly, succinct manner exposed the malignant left's war on men and logic.

In re The NORKS; wonder if Trump has ever considered working the Chinese and Russians for an August Falcon redux? Back in the 50's after the Korean War, the North had 2 factions within Kim-il sung's government: Pro-Soviet NORKs and Pro-China NORKs who tried to depose Sung but missed badly.

But it was mangled from the beginning and made Sung stronger. Just another idea to avoid an all out conflict.

[cboldt]

Everywhere around me, I see jealousy and mayhem
Because no men have all their peace of mind to carry them
Night by Night

Some good Fagen/Becker photos in the linked Youtube, covering a long span of years.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Mattis just came out of the White House meeting and things do not sound exactly conciliatory.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/03/xi-jinping-and-vladimir-putin-stick-to-the-goal-of-denuclearization-on-the-korean-peninsula/#comments

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://twitter.com/President1Trump/status/904426323539582977

This tweet has video with Mattis' full statement.

[cboldt]

MM - thanks. I was going to ask about text of statement. This has a sort of "Cuban missile crisis" feel to it. At some point, events are going to spiral out of control. I don't foresee NK backing down.

[Threadkiller]

Evacuation centers were opened in Burbank, Glendale and Sunland-Tujunga. Terrazas said Sunday that 1,000 people had shown up to at the centers and that 900 had been released so far. They were not allowed, however, to return to the evacuated zones.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-wildfire-los-angeles-20170903-story.html

Exactly why I would probably stay with my home.

I met a retired fire hero who was in the business of buying and selling classic cars and parts. He gloated about his success in finding vehicles that no one else knew about.

He would essentially case the properties that they responded to for emergency calls. Then, days after the event, he would go knock on the door wearing his "I Am A Hero!!" t-shirt and identify himself as one of the team of heroes that desperately tried to save the spouse's life.

After some tears were shed and he had received all of the praise that he deserved, he would then ask, "so, what is going to happen to George's Mustang? I'm looking for a project to do with my kid."

He said it worked like a charm.

[daddy]

Walter Becker of Steeley Dan died.

Yesterday on the crossing from Taipei to Anchorage was fooling around with the ADF (equivalent of AM radio receivers) and abeam Hokkaido picked up a very strong Japanese AM station from Sapporo, channel 567. A Japanese announcer was playing Steeley Dan tunes. We were surprised, but the signal came in very strong and we had it with very little static until about 800 miles away and approaching abeam Petropavlovsk.

The announcer would play 2 tunes, then chat for about 3 or 4 minutes in Japanese about something, then 2 more tunes, then chat again, and he did this until the top of the Hour when they did their NPR style news break in Japanese and we lost the signal to static. We didn't know why there were doing it but were very appreciative as it helped break the monotony and did a good job of jolting us awake. I guess now they must have been doing it in honor of Walter Becker's passing.

I assume FM Radio will got clobbered with an EMP event. Anyone know how AM Radio would be affected?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Yes, it does.

I recommend reviewing Sundance's writings on this The Conservative Treehouse over the last week or so.

The latest statement from Russia and China seems to indicate they are being prodded to re-start the 6-party talks.

The one fly in the ointment, and on this I am only hazarding a guess, is if the Iranians are involved in the Norks making such fast progress. It seems likely to me that they may have taken all of that money and outsourced (and sent their scientists) to North Korea, where they think they can progress without prying Israeli eyes.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

My 3:51 comment was directed to cboldt's comment that this had a Cuban Missile Crisis feel.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Full text of statement from Secretary Mattis:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI0uXk_XUAAgmME.jpg

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/north-koreas-deadly-partnership-with-iran

[Captain Hate]

Btw I didn't mention anything last night but the Alabama defense was awesome in the second half. There was a point in the third quarter when Francois somehow gunned it through the arms of a Tide LB for a completion when Herbie and the play by play guy were talking about what a tight window he had and I was thinking "he was really lucky that wasn't picked". Sure enough, the next few passes were as he obviously wasn't fooling anyone about where the ball was going. I hope his injury isn't as serious as the beating his confidence took.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

55 earthquakes near Soda Springs, Idaho in the last 24 hours:

https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/#%7B%22autoUpdate%22%3A%5B%22autoUpdate%22%5D%2C%22basemap%22%3A%22grayscale%22%2C%22feed%22%3A%221day_m25%22%2C%22listFormat%22%3A%22default%22%2C%22mapposition%22%3A%5B%5B3.601142320158735%2C-137.197265625%5D%2C%5B62.02152819100765%2C-52.82226562499999%5D%5D%2C%22overlays%22%3A%5B%22plates%22%5D%2C%22restrictListToMap%22%3A%5B%22restrictListToMap%22%5D%2C%22search%22%3Anull%2C%22sort%22%3A%22newest%22%2C%22timezone%22%3A%22utc%22%2C%22viewModes%22%3A%5B%22list%22%2C%22map%22%5D%2C%22event%22%3Anull%7D

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

The link works, no matter how bizarre it looks. Takes you to a map.

[Thomas Collins]

Mattis's statement indicates to me that the US will continue to pursue diplomatic means. He referenced the UN Security Council, and said the US could respond massively to the threat (in other words, no demand that Kim stand down immediately and open up North Korean nuclear facilities to international inspection). I think Mattis is reminding China as well as North Korea that the previous US policy of talking tough and then propping up the regime has ended. But I didn't sense a threat of an imminent US attack coming.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/03/trump-shows-glimpse-of-wolverine-teeth-to-south-korea/

[Frau Mit gegangen, Mit gefangen, Mit gehangen]

Miss M @ 4:43- I see the usual scorpions slithered in to leave their spittle.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/03/treasury-secretary-mnuchin-drafting-new-north-korea-sanctions/#comments

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Frau, I had on the Fox live feed this morning and I first heard a few guys, like Ed Rollins, who were supportive of the president.

Then all of a sudden all of these former Bush and Clinton people started showing up wringing their hands and saying what Trump must or must not do. As Omni Ceren said on Twitter, how do the Clinton people have any standing at all, since they facilitated the situation we are in now?

It also occurred to me that if the President got off Twitter it would be like unilateral disarmament. Look at all of those journalists pushing their agenda. No wonder they want him silent on Twitter!

Thankfully, he's not stupid.

[Thomas Collins]

But let's take a break from Kim with big ones and a delivery system worry to enjoy what could be the oddest two Homer by a batter game in MLB history.

http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2017/09/03/252186714/mikie-mahtook-accidentally-gifted-jose-ramirez-with-a-home-run

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Thomas Collins,

I dutifully went and read the article at your link.

I have come to the conclusion that I just do not get baseball. I think if you didn't play it as a kid (which women my age did not) or have a major league team in your city (which Indianapolis did not) you are just sort of standing on the sidelines wondering what the heck is going on.

I assume that the story is a big deal if you are a baseball fan. I am not mocking baseball at all. It's just that I really don't understand the fascination, no matter how hard I try.

[Frau Mit gegangen, Mit gefangen, Mit gehangen]

lyle sez "Get along, get along, Kid Charlemagne."

Make that "Kid Karl der Grosse."

His mother tongue is the Ripuarians Frankish, which means German.
Frankish Ripuarian (Ripoarisch in Frankish Ripuarian; Ripuarisch in German) is a German dialect. Frankish Ripuarian wing is the most north-western group of Middle German dialects Western which also includes Luxembourgish Franconian, Moselle Franconian and Rhine Franconian which is close but distinct.

In addition to speaking and writing his native German, Big Charlie spoke and wrote Latin which made him "Carolus Magnus."

JiB calls him Karel de Grote.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Thomas Wictor just pointed out that King Salman of Saudi Arabia was in Japan for a 4-day visit.

He thinks the allies Mattis was referring to weren't NATO but Israel and the Gulf allies.

Very interesting, especially if Iran is involved in North Korea.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--you are just sort of standing on the sidelines--

They aren't called sidelines in baseball. Maybe if you'd play it as a kid! :P

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Ignatz,

Well, what DO they call it?

See? I just don't get it! LOL!

[Jim Eagle]

Frau,
,
Mrs. JiB speaks German in Luxembourghish Franconian dialect. One of her brothers speaks in a Zurich dialect. Her father, as a professor, speaks as if he is the fencing instructor in Heidleberg.

[Frau Mit gegangen, Mit gefangen, Mit gehangen]

Bleachers? Dugout? Outfield? VIP Skybox?

[glasater]

MM, Soday Springs ID appears to be in the far Eastern part of the state close to the Wyoming border in the Yellowstone Park area.

Lyle is quite a distance from there.

[JimNorCal]

The threat of sanctions against North Korean trading partners is a good first step. Let China, India and Russia choose who they value more.

I wonder why the US Govt doesn't 'reluctantly' announce "Long term, the US won't commit to protecting So Korea and Japan in perpetuity. Thus, if No Korea is allowed to acquire nukes we intend to aid SK, Japan (and Vietnam!) to develop the capability to protect themselves".

Also, monitor NK broadcasts. At some future time when the Congressional population has a higher proportion of patriots and fewer cowards make an announcement that you're taking them at their word. "On month/day the official North Korea announced that the US would be crushed. Is that the position of the NK gov't? If so, a Declaration of War will be solicited from the US Congress."

Instead of starting from the position "there's nothing we can do because somebody might get hurt", give our enemies a feeling that we are looking for a suitable pretext to take extreme measures.

[Frau Mit gegangen, Mit gefangen, Mit gehangen]

JiB --
Some Swiss sounds come close to Dutch ;-D

[JimNorCal]

glasater: "Soda Springs ID appears to be in the far Eastern part of the state close to the Wyoming border in the Yellowstone Park area."

Uh oh. From a recent post at Insty. End days coming?
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/08/28/nasa-wants-to-prevent-yellowstone-super-volcano-from-destroying-us.html

[lyle]

Quite true, glasater. Go any further east from Soda Springs and you're in Wyoming and quite close to Yellowstone.

Frau, I was quoting Steely Dan in re Kid Charlemagne.

[daddy]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea.

Interesting, what with us having a Guangzhou China Cargo Hub and a few hundred pilots currently domiciled in China. On the plus side, we have a similar large structure already established at Osaka's Kansai Airport which is a 24 Hour ops Airport like Guangzhou, established I am told as a contingency should problems erupt nixing our China ops. We also have ample ramp space and property at the old Military Base outside Manila we could shift to fairly rapidly if required. Nice to know that in these interesting times we live in the Company has taken what precautions they can to keep the packages moving.

FWIW over the last few months when operating out of select airports in Asia (Taiwan, Japan, South Korea) we have been required to contact Global Ops immediately prior to departure to ensure that nothing is going on in North Korea mandating an immediate change of plans. I suspect all the other airlines are doing something similar.

[Extraneus]

Volcano? I'll be in Yellowstone in a couple of weeks. [gulp]

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

MM, the lines themselves are called foul lines, though the lines themselves are actually fair territory. Everything outside the lines is foul territory.
A next batter is "on deck".
I've never heard the area behind home plate ever called anything besides the area behind home plate.

Baseball guys, what is the equivalent term for "standing on the sidelines"?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Fair is foul, and foul is fair:
Hover through fog and filthy air.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-trump-abe/japans-abe-agreed-with-trump-putin-on-cooperation-over-north-korea-idUSKCN1BE0WL?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=59ac6faa04d3015f8edea240&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

[cboldt]

"Not on the field" or "off the field." There are a few people who hang out there. Coaches, ball/bat boy, next up batter, umpires.

The rest of the players are in dugouts or "the pen" where pitchers are warming up. The spectators are in the stands.

[daddy]

I still think I'm more scared of Otezla than of an EMP from North Korea.

You must not take Otezla® (apremilast) if you are allergic to apremilast or to any of the ingredients in Otezla.

Otezla is associated with an increase in adverse reactions of depression. In clinical studies, some patients reported depression and suicidal behavior while taking Otezla. Some patients stopped taking Otezla due to depression. Before starting Otezla, tell your doctor if you have had feelings of depression, suicidal thoughts, or suicidal behavior.

Side effects of Otezla in psoriasis clinical studies were diarrhea, nausea, upper respiratory tract infection, tension headache, and headache.

These are not all the possible side effects with Otezla.

Tell your doctor if you are pregnant, planning to become pregnant, or planning to breastfeed. Otezla has not been studied in pregnant women or in women who are breastfeeding.

Severe Renal Impairment...has been observed...

[cathyf]

I wonder if a NNEMP strike is on the table. That is a Non-Nuclear Electro Magnetic Pulse generated bomb or missle or even from another air platform.

Wipe out their electronics and supply grids. Even those underground.

An NNEMP attack against us is probably the best bet for how Little Kim will attack. We have little defense against it, in that we've wasted years in transgender bathroom policies and ignored hardening the grid.

[JimNorCal]

Yellowstone!
Be alert while driving.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Excellent thread here. Be sure you read all the numbered replies, which go to 35.

https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/904450324194148352

[GUS NO LONGER WHITE...I'M SUNBURNT]

dugout, bull pen, or 1st/3rd base coaches boxes, are all sort of standing on the sidelines.

Grabbing some PINE, doesn't mean picking up a bat.

Daddy, did you see my earlier posts regarding a fellow Fed Ex pilot, I attended the Air Force football game with. FWIW, his name is Pete.
On a baseball side note, I attended the Brewers Triple A affiliate, the CO SPRINGS/SKYSOX game Friday Night. 1st row behind home plate. I could here the F-BOMBS flying, when The Sky Sox Manager got tossed. Quite entertaining.