Say What? Fair And Balanced At The NY Times?

OK, the charity case NY Times is trying to keep me off balance with off-speed pitches. Or something. NYTimes staff writer Bari Weiss delivers a calm, thoughtful assessment of Ben Shapiro's upcoming Brawl to Settle It All at Berkeley.

OK, she sometimes merely alludes to points that, in my well-thought through and strongly held opinion, merit table pounding and a bit of spittle. But hey, she is trying to reach her readership, not change my mind.

Some snippets:

A Political Conservative Goes to Berkeley

By Bari Weiss   Sept 12, 2017

Ben Shapiro is a 33-year-old who supports small government, religious liberty and free-market economics and opposes identity politics, abortion and Donald Trump. He is, in other words, that wildly exotic creature: a political conservative.

You’d think that the cosmopolitan denizens of the San Francisco Bay Area would have encountered a few, if not in the form of an uncle at Thanksgiving, then perhaps in, I don’t know, a field trip down to Orange County. But to judge from the pre-emptive reaction to Mr. Shapiro’s speech scheduled for this Thursday at the University of California, Berkeley, you’d be mistaken.

Last week Paul Alivisatos, the university’s executive vice chancellor and provost, sent out a grave letter to students and faculty members. “We are deeply concerned about the impact some speakers may have on individuals’ sense of safety and belonging,” he wrote, encouraging his readers to avail themselves of campus counseling services. “No one should be made to feel threatened or harassed simply because of who they are or for what they believe.”

Mr. Alivisatos wasn’t referring to the various threats against Mr. Shapiro that you might imagine would be his chief concern: When the right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos visited campus in February, the resulting protests caused $100,000 in damage. This time around, the activist group Refuse Fascism, which has hailed the left-wing extremist antifa movement as “courageous,” has taken the lead in condemning Mr. Shapiro’s speech, calling him a “fascist” on campus fliers and declaring in a Facebook post that his goal was to “spread ugly fascist views dressed up in slick-talking ‘intellectual’ garb.”

Fascist? Says who? Good question:

Yet this sharp-tongued Never Trumper was also, according to the Anti-Defamation League, by far the most bullied Jewish journalist of 2016 — quite a distinction when you think about the kind of vitriol that gushed forth this past year on platforms like Twitter. Those attacks came from the alt-right, which called Mr. Shapiro a “Christ killer” and far worse. When his son was born, the trolls called the baby a “newborn cockroach” and suggested that the entire Shapiro family head to the gas chambers.

Let’s hope the protest against this “fascist” who has been the regular target of actual ones doesn’t result in any violence. But the brouhaha over Ben Shapiro is significant not because of what might go down Thursday at Berkeley, but because it is a perfect exhibition of a much broader phenomenon increasingly apparent in the wake of the Charlottesville, Va., demonstrations last month: the sloppy conflation between actual white supremacists and, well, run-of-the-mill conservatives, libertarians and classical liberals whose main beef is with some on the left who seem like they’d rather do without the First Amendment.

My goodness, antifa bashing and a defense of free speech even when committed by conservatives? What am I reading and where is my NY Times?

I still don't know, but bashing of antifa and the politicians who enable them it is. Ms. Weiss closes with a plea to meet speech with better speech. Her example is from 1965, which was also a volatile time and about to become much more so:

One of my favorite things on YouTube is the famous 1965 debate between James Baldwin and William F. Buckley at Cambridge University. Baldwin wiped the floor with Buckley before the all-white British audience — the yeas outpolled the nays 540 to 160 on the proposition “The American dream is at the expense of the American Negro.”

Can anyone doubt that if Buckley tried to argue the same point today he would have been pelted with a cream pie, or shouted down, or surrounded by a police escort or worse? Perhaps he would have just avoided the tiresome indignity by canceling the talk.

Watch it. You’ll be grateful he didn’t.

ERRATA: Baldwin's presentation is transcribed here.

Comments

[Jane]

How can I be first

[DrJ]

You are paying attention, Jane! Happy travels!

[GUS]

Jane, you went thru Hagerstown didn't you!?!

[Jim Eagle]

From last thread:

Isn't it, though. I have a whole list of classical authors I never read because of required reading in school.

Dickens, Thomas Hardy, etc.

MM,

I thought before that post you said you read Great Expectations in 8th grade? Who do you think wrote that other than Dickens:)

[Jane]

Dr.j I told Amy the nice thing you said about and it made her happy. Thank you!

[Marlene]

Jane, are you going to take I-77 or I-85 in southern Virginia?

[Jim Eagle]

Jane must be looking to take 75 out of Chattanooga down to her place in Florida. Nice drive down 81 in Virginia but not at night.

[DrJ]

I appears the "Google Trick" was real, publisher-sanctioned, and is going away (WSJ):

Google Inc. is planning to end its “first click free” policy that enables users of its search engine to bypass paywalls on news websites, a move that could help publishers boost subscriptions, News Corp Chief Executive Robert Thomson said Tuesday.

Google for years has encouraged publishers to be part of the program, which allows search users to access a limited amount of content on subscription-based news sites free of charge. Some publishers say the policy has hurt subscription growth and say their sites are penalized in Google’s search rankings if they don’t participate in the program.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Ralph L.,

I was ambiguous. What I meant was that there are classical authors I no longer read, because of having to do so in school.

[Neo]

You'd think that perhaps a JDAM dropped in the middle of campus would free this cherib darlings of their passion for fictitious 'safe spaces'.

Perhaps, 'Uncle Kim' will do us all a favour.

[Ralph L]

Jane, if you go down I77, you'll pass right by Davidson College, rse's and my PC alma mater. You're welcome to give them the finger.

[daddy on iPad]

Even better the 2nd time around😀

Reporter: Thank you, Sarah. Two questions, if I may. One is, just since you raised the issue of Mrs. Clinton’s book having a false narrative and false accusations, could you point us to a couple specific accusations in the book that you believe are factually incorrect?

MS. SANDERS: . I think probably the biggest one is anyplace within the book where she lays blame for the loss on anyone but herself.

:)
:)
:)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

CB Retweeted
'Gitmo' Bama‏ @President1Trump 3h3 hours ago

BREAKING @SpeakerRyan Says, "we are fully funding @POTUS Border Wall request"! I guess the kick in the arse worked

[Ralph L]

I thought Nicholas Nickleby and Bleak House were surprisingly funny, but didn't care for GE. Pickwick was just silly, and I quit Oliver after 100 grim pages.
Still prefer Trollope of the Victorians.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/09/13/nolte-flashback-admitted-occultist-sally-quinn-ridiculed-sarah-palins-christian-faith/

[Jane]

I think we are planning on going 77

[Catsmeat]

I agree that GE shouldn't be taught in the 8th grade or even in high school--though it's just telling a story, it's sufficiently removed from the experiences of young people today that they struggle with it--and do also as sophomores in college, where I sympathize a great deal less (they really should be able to read a classic novel by Dickens, who is in fact when he wants to be one of the funniest writers ever--some scenes are as good as Wodehouse, such as the Christmas feast scene in chapter five of GE).

I adore Trollope, and don't reread Dickens unless I am teaching him. RalphL, do you know Can You Forgive Her?

[Catsmeat]

And one more thing--Trollope is for grownups who like people and like politics.

[henry]

We had to read the standard literature stuff from 8th - 12th grade. The need to "interpret" the books based on Psychology Today's tropes and whatever meaning religious stuff like playing with rosary beads (you mean it's not that they are nuts like Queeg and the marbles? I am Quaker, we don't do any of that weird crap) turned me of literature entirely. I could not understand what the hell the stupid teachers were talking about, it might as well have been Martians. / teenage me off

I still prefer sci fi. At least it is about Martians sometimes.

[Jane]

Jib why is 81 bad at night?

[Jim Eagle]

Hey, you guys in the northern states, above Kentucky, you can see the Northern Lights tonight.

https://www.cntraveler.com/story/where-to-see-the-northern-lights-in-the-us-this-week?mbid=nl_091317_Daily&CNDID=41726203&spMailingID=11914613&spUserID=MTMzNDg1NTYyMTU4S0&spJobID=1241134772&spReportId=MTI0MTEzNDc3MgS2

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--a move that could help publishers boost subscriptions--

I guess they could look at it like that.
But of course mostly it will help people not to read their crap at all.

[maryrose]

MM:
You must read the Thomas Hardy novels.
I am always surprised that science majors don't seem to enjoy the classics in literature.
The lessons learned from them can be life changing.Dickens in particular captures the historical times and the utter poverty and deplorable justice system.
Endeavor has concluded on PBS.
Next I hope will be Poldark also rich in English history.
I must admit I sometimes prefer British Literature to American.
Exceptions would be Hawthorne,Dreiser,Thackeray, and of course Mark Twain.

[Marlene]

Ewww...the dog just came in the house with a frog in his mouth. The little frog leg was sticking out of his mouth. We bribed him with a treat and he spit it out.

[Jim Eagle]

Jane,

Long, straight, dark and numerous 18 wheelers. Plus during the day its very scenic. Miss it at night.

But if you are two drivers then the fatigue factor shouldn't figure in.

/Keep on Truckin'

[cboldt]

FWIW, a trick I sometime use to get past the paywall (works great on NYT) is to visit the site with "lynx," a text-only browser.

WaPo and NYT should experiment increasing readership using a trick akin to the trick liberals use to increase employment - increase the minimum wage. Why I'll bet if NYT cost say a buck per article, their revenue and influence would skyrocket. No more failing, no more charity.

[narciso]

So Susan rice admits to unmasking but only re that one meeting.

[cboldt]

Marlene - when licking the frog just isn't enough. Watch your fur baby for more hallucinations than usual.

[Jim Eagle]

MM,

It wasn't RalphL but me who commented on your reading GE.

[squaredance]

Iggy: Exactly.

[Catsmeat]

Off to choir, whether I want to go or not. We're not very good or big, but if doomed to do choir, doomed to do choir. Maryrose, Hardy is one of the best novelists ever in terms of his sheer beautiful artfulness that seems to artless--but his worldview is really pretty rotten--aimless doomed humans running around doing doomed stupid things until they give up. The suicide-murder of all the children in Jude the Obscure was for me the last straw--won't read again, and have managed to not teach for 40 years...

[Catsmeat]

So artless, not to artless--sorry!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

maryrose,

It's not that I don't like classic literature. I have a fondness for "Quo Vadis" and love Shakespeare. I love the Romantic poets.

It's just particularly those who I had to read with study guides. My mother was an English teacher, and I didn't decide to major in science until college. My first choice was education or journalism, but I disliked the profs and realized I wasn't going to fit in.

[Boatbuilder on iphone]

Did Hilary hire Dick Morris to ghostwrite her book? Somebody really hates her guts.

[daddy on iPad]

Speaking of the NYTimes, just concluded a Library run and this brand new Children's book, published by New York Times publishing, was prominent atop the new book stack under a display sign reading "Stop Hate!"

[Catsmeat]

A wicked man, my dear.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

A buck per story?
There really is no rational topside limit is there?
Why if they could get just one reader to pay a billion for one story per year they'd be in the black and, well, I was going to say out of the red, but they haven't really been out of the red since Duranty have they?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

That's about how big the bastard's head was. Doubt if anything else is accurate.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Catsmeat,

Tess of the d'Ubervilles. I couldn't help thinking, "Keep your mouth shut, Tess" But NO, she had to tell HER secret before he told her his. Then she ended up wandering around Stonehenge and died of exposure or suicide or something, I forget.

Return of the Native is another one. Ugh.

I prefer Shelley and Keats and Shakespeare.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jack,

Sorry. I need to double check who I am replying to.

[JimNorCal]

Biggest loser

[Porchlight]

I love Trollope.

My mom and I have a couple of similar childbirth stories.

With #1, while in early labor in the hospital, she was reading Dickens's Hard Times.

With #3, while in early labor in the hospital, I was reading Trollope's Dr. Thorne.

Still remember walking around the hallways of the maternity ward with the book, pushing my IV contraption and stopping for occasional contractions.

Seven plus years later, I still haven't finished it! Guess I've been too busy on JustTenHours. :)

[Porchlight]

George Eliot's Middlemarch is another. Might be my favorite 19th century novel after Austen.

[narciso]

Yes i read the prime minister and then phone as rex turns out some things haven't changed in a,150 years. To wit the Tories pushing ridiculous legislation like disestablishinv the church of england.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Oh, look. Here's the cover the New Yorker would have published if Hillary had won:

https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/908063684437725184

Hahahaha!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Tucker Carlson is detailing Hillary's blame targets with clips. It's pretty funny.

[daddy on iPad]

TM,

Last week on the quick Oakland Layover I hustled the brand new co-pilot up to Berkeley via the Bart for a Used Book run. On the standard walk thru the campus from Shattuck up to Telegraph we walked thru Sproeul Plaza, home of the old Tom Haydn Free Speech movement and site of the fiery Milo Yanaoplis protests a few months back. Right out in front of the green gateway was a table set up saying Berkeley Campus Republicans, with a big life size cut out of Trump and Mike Pence behind the table. My co-pilot was way impressed so we walked up and I introduced him to the bravest 2 guys on Campus. Interestingly the 2 Republican students manning the table were an Indian America (subcontonent India) and a Mexican American. Next door were the standard Death to Israel, Go PLO, lesbian gay whatever tables. The 2 students were sharp and enjoyable. If anyone ever is on that Campus please walk up and say "Hey." They definitely appreciated it after they figured out who we were.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Mark Steyn on Tucker says Hillary's book tour reminds him of OJ looking for the "real killers": the longer it goes on, the more you are pretty sure who the guilty party is.

[Dave (in MA)]

Jane! I was saddened to read about your watermelon. Nobody should have to live through such devastation. It must be global warming.

[daddy on iPad]

I must admit I sometimes prefer British Literature to American.

I don't know if this applies but with ZoBob home I have been forced to watch episodes of The Great British Bakeoff and I have to say they are more intertaining than the American episodes of Chopped I had to sit through. Momma and Z both love Paul the bread man, and I love Mary, the grandame of cakes, since her diction would put Queen Liz to shame.

[Dave (in MA)]

RIP Billy Batts

[Threadkiller]

Shapiro is in cahoots with the NYT NeverTrump division to prop him up as some sort of conservative icon.

He is an untrustworthy POS and a complete fake. Probably the work of Egg.

#McMormon'sMartyrs

[Captain Hate]

Willowed

Put Great Expectations on the top of your list for the Book Club.
It is a classic.

The group may have already read it when I took a hiatus because they were reading too much unchallenging trash (not GE). I've honestly read enough Dickens for one lifetime: Bleak House, Tale of Two Cities, Oliver Twist and Little Dorrit (and maybe I'm forgetting something). I enjoyed them all but the cartoonish caricatures posing as characters starts wearing after a while.

Not that I'm opinionated...

Btw I love Thomas Hardy.

[Clarice Feldman]

Wave in my direction as you ride on by, Jane. So near and yet so far. XOXOO

[Man Tran]

Try again..,

Greetings from near the mouth of the Danube. In the morning we take a short spin in the Black Sea before dangling our toes in it.

We have several great instructors who take turns filling us in on the historical details depending on whether it is a Hungarian, Serb, Croat, Bulgarian, or Romanian topic. I showed the Romanian guy daddy's pix of the Romanian Dance and let him know that was one of our fave images while we fantasize which of our corrupt politicians we hope get the treatment. He said the hair stands up on his arm every time he sees it.

[Captain Hate]

Sproeul Plaza, home of the old Tom Haydn Free Speech movement

I think you mean Mario Savio.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

TK,

Someone else is going to have to keep tabs on the Egg. When I follow him I get so infuriated I answer him.

Today I went and checked my notifications and there were about 20 telling me I was a Russian sympathizer.

So I unfollowed him so I wouldn't be tempted to draw their fire.

[Captain Hate]

I showed the Romanian guy daddy's pix of the Romanian Dance and let him know that was one of our fave images while we fantasize which of our corrupt politicians we hope get the treatment. He said the hair stands up on his arm every time he sees it

Soldiers paid money to be part of a lottery to aerate those lowlifes. The original Danube of Thought was paralyzed by fright but Elena was a bitch until the end, insulting the soldiers as they placed their crosshairs between her eyes. Kind of like I'd imagine Slick and Curb Dive.

[henry]

Power back on at my brother's house. So he avoids hotel.

Gasoline is still scarce. Jane, hope your vehicle gets great mileage.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Kurt Schlichter‏Verified account @KurtSchlichter 9m9 minutes ago

Every single day I get exponentially happier that Hillary and her drooling band of suck-ups were humiliatingly crushed. 🤔

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This in reply to the New Yorker cover I posted above. HA!

[Clarice Feldman]

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/09/democratic-party-smears-neil-gorsuch-as-a-bigot.php

[Jane]

Clarice passed you a long time ago, requested an invitation from the west wing to be flown down to Florida and Karen but unfortunately the person I requested it didn't get back to me till we were deep knee-deep in Virginia. Hurramph. Working our way toward 77 and then who knows what

[anonamom]

Don't beep when you come by here Jane--- I'll be sleeping.

I am not a fan of people driving at night, seeing the consequences.

It's not just you that matters---by 2am, over 80% of the drivers are impaired by substance use.

There's lots of nice motel rooms at those exits you're passing.

[Neo]

Trump's lavish 9 bedroom Estate located on Plum Beach on the Island of St. Martin (located on the furthest leeway point of the island) seems to have come through Irma.

Meanwhile, the Chinese are building a 600+ room hotel and business convention center under the name "Pearl of China-Caribbean".

I see the collusion story forming.

[joan]

Our little grandson is seven, and he plays up two years on an '07 soccer team (yes, he's good.:)

Yesterday evening his '07 soccer team (which is coached and associated with the local small Wesleyan College) were paired with college players, marched on the pitch holding hands with them, had their names announced, and then were put at corners of the pitch to run after stray balls.

Our little grandson was so excited and told his mother the night before the game, "This is almost a dream come true!" :) We have really enjoyed his joy.

What we found interesting were the hometowns of the players on our little local college team:

Pancevo, Serbia
CD, Juarez MX
Novi Sad, Serbia
Belgrade, Serbia
Seville, Spain
Sremska, Serbia
Barcelona, Spain
Sao Paola, Brazil
Madrid, Spain
Lierne
Pancevo, Serbia
Belo Horizonte, Brazil
Vina Del Mar, Chile

And, their opponents from Southwestern Christian Eagles, Moore, OK, had four players from Liverpool, England, as well as South Africa, Germany, Spain, Serbia, Brazil, Portugal, Australia, Italy, and there were only five players from OK and two from TX.

I just found this interesting having all of these countries playing at two small colleges here in this state. (I probably wouldn't have mentioned it, but think someone upthread said something about Serbia, which made me think of last night's game.)

[henry]

Joan, Foreign students can afford the tuition fees.

[joan]

henry, :)

[Captain Hate]

I don't think this will ever end:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/907795861102620672

[Man Tran]

Joan,

We were just in Novi Sad and Belgrade. Lovely towns given what they've gone through over the years. Getting an education is the only way out for the young ones. Their daily lives run on about a tenth of the cash flow we do and it is hard to leverage that into something better.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Captain Hate,

Thanks for that link to James Woods and The List!

I figure I fall in about 3 categories.

[Jane]

VA goes on forever it seems. Good advice anonamom.. we may not take it, so maybe we'll see you in the ER. Hope not.

[Clarice Feldman]

Joan, that is adorable.

[Jim Eagle]

Joan & Henry,

A lot of high schools and colleges in America that are majority Euro or South America soccer players due to recruiting and exchange programs. For example, in Florida, if Frederick was to go to his Catholic HS in St. Augustine he could never make the soccer team. They have 30 to 40 exchange students from Brazil, Argentina, Columbia, etc.

Only a few American kids are on the team. One of their grads is the place kicker for the KC Chiefs.

At Chaminade on LI, one of the biggest HS on LI, 60 tryout and they take 20. 13 from South America or Europe on exchange program.

Another reason football and lacrosse are safe so far.

[Jim Eagle]

Heh!

New NYT's Children's literature best seller:

[jimmyk]

Mark Steyn on Tucker says Hillary's book tour reminds him of OJ looking for the "real killers"

Hey, I had that line here a few days ago. I demand royalties!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

jimmyk,

Gosh, I missed your post! I should have flagged you so you could get some dough from Mark Steyn!

Do you think he lurks here?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://freebeacon.com/issues/cory-booker-gave-20000-to-menendezs-legal-expense-fund/

[jimmyk]

MM, did you look carefully at that New Yorker cover?

Actually this might have been edited slightly.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

jimmyk,

Hahahaha! Love it!

[daddy]

Just as a test, see if any of you can read this tragic story and figure out whether this perp is an American citizen and/or should be in this country or not. I can't definitively figure it out. Unlicensed driver who drunkenly crashed into cyclists hopes woman he left in coma can forgive him

---Unlicensed driver...

---The Ecuadorian construction worker...

---undocumented immigrant...

---fears he could be deported if convicted. He’s lived in the U.S. for 18 years.

I find it odd that I cannot read a newspaper any more and figure out the simple straightforward facts of whether or not the guy is an illegal and should he be in this country, or should not be here. By banning the use of the words "Illegal Alien" we have created nothing but confusion---I suppose that is intentional.

[Ralph L]

Daddy, the Bakeoff Master Classes are charming--just Mary and Paul cutting up.

phone as rex
Phineas Redux is my favorite of Trollope's political novels--read it twice last winter. Barchester Towers is hard to beat, though.
Can You Forgive Her? I read once decades ago except for the "comic" parts. I hate reading dialect.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

daddy,

I can guess, but it would help if they were more specific.

My youngest sister wound up unconscious in the ER about 15 years ago due to an illegal alien, uninsured, broadsiding the car she was riding in.

Seems to be a similar MO.

[Ralph L]

JMH lives very near I 77, but she probably ain't home. I'm 50 miles east, but Hit is closer, or was.

[sbw]

I have often said that when going to sleep at night, any good Trollope will do.

[sbw]

Catsmeat, My wife doesn’t mind teaching Great Ex in 9th grade although she says she would teach it differently now.

Although she didn’t say why, I think that it requires a concurrent heavy dose of history and culture that kids don’t get anymore.

[Ralph L]

any good Trollope will do.
Hope your wife doesn't read that

[Ralph L]

from Sally's wiki page: Henry Kissinger said, "[The Post reporter] Maxine Cheshire makes you want to commit murder. Sally Quinn makes you want to commit suicide."

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Heading to bed.

Nytol!

[Captain Hate]

Precipitation from the remnants of Irma just started falling here.

[Momto2]

I'm missing all of the book discussions? (Thank you Comcast: day 3!!!)

Must go back and attempt to catch up.

Love Trollope~
My 9th graders read G.E.~
My daughter and I have been binge watching The Great British Bake Off during my "confinement." It's so much better than any of our American Food Network contests.~

[daddy]

Clarice,

I think this latest column by Prager goes a good way in explaining the mindset behind your 08:42 link titled "DEMOCRATIC PARTY SMEARS NEIL GORSUCH AS A BIGOT":

Leftism Is Not Liberalism

[daddy]

Jane and Debbie and Kiwi text that they are in Carolina and nothing could be finer.

[Eric in Boise]

Why would Clenis care if Despicable She is now home every night? I kind of doubt he is.

[daddy]

I am not a fan of people driving at night, seeing the consequences.

Bummer. I'd be out of job:(

[daddy]

The gals say they are about 50 miles north of Charlotte on Highway 77.

[caro]

Henry, that was funny about the NSA. No doubt you are right. I am amazed by the info that is dished up to whomever.

[daddy]

Representative Steve King (R) of Iowa just said this to Tucker re: illegal aliens:

King: ...another point is that we count them (illegals) in the Census, in the United States Census. Legals and illegals, and citizens and non-citizens, are all put into the same batch, and then when we redistrict, the members of the House of Representatives have members of Congress that are representing Districts that have a high percentage of illegals in them.

Tucker: That's actually shocking, that their presence gives political weight to certain members.

[Momto2]

That is pretty shocking, daddy. They obviously have NO fear. Imagine being somewhere illegally and filling out a census form...I would think they would want to fly under the radar.

Color me naive.

[daddy]

On the Tucker Carlsen replay I just got to the part where the Daily Caller reporter Luke Rosiak, who has done such a splendid job on the Awan/DWS case, says that the Awan bunch even now may still have access to all these E-mails and to potentially embarrassing information. Rosiak says that is the only reason he can come up with at this time as to why the Congressional Dems are refusing to cooperate with the investigators---"basically you have witnesses who are refusing to cooperate at this point."

[Texas Liberty Gal]

I'm surprised she can cross her legs...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/hillary-clinton-demonstrates-alternate-nostril-breathing-during-cnn-interview/article/2634354