The Russians Were Coming!

Scott Shane of the Charity Case NY Times covers the breaking news from Twin Falls Idaho, where Russian interference led to a four person rally in a state Trump won by 31%. Mr. Shane omits the "four person" detail, which admittedly is based on a Facebook guess, not crowd photographs or even a photo of a picnic bench with four bridge players.

However, Mr. Shane gets some interesting new details from a Facebook source (my emphasis):

The multifaceted Russian information operation targeting the presidential election had many elements, including the hacking and leaking of Democratic emails, regular attacks on Hillary Clinton by the RT television channel and the online news site Sputnik, and the creation of fake accounts on Facebook and Twitter. But the Twin Falls post is the first example to come to light of Russian agents actually trying to conjure a political rally on American soil.

Facebook officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said they had found a small number of additional events announced by the Russia-created pages and were looking for more. They declined to give examples.

The new revelations stepped up pressure on Facebook to make public more of what it knows about the Russian propaganda operations.

...

Facebook said last week that the 470 “inauthentic accounts and pages” it had linked to Russia and removed had bought about 3,000 ads between June 2015 and May this year. Though some ads mentioned the presidential candidates or the election, most “appeared to focus on amplifying divisive social and political messages across the ideological spectrum — touching on topics from LGBT matters to race issues to immigration to gun rights,” wrote Alex Stamos, the company’s chief security officer.

Now, a rhetorical question - who on the right trusts Facebook to be forthcoming about duplicitous activity involving the left? Yeah, exactly. It seems strange that Facebook's list of divisive issues includes "LGBT matters to race issues to immigration to gun rights" but no environmental issues. After all, the NY Times and others reported in 2014 that Russia was widely believed to be behind anti-fracking protests in Europe.

And Hillary Clinton herself said (per Wikileaks) this about the Russians in a 2014 speech in oil-producing Alberta:

“We were even up against phony environmental groups, and I’m a big environmentalist, but these were funded by the Russians to stand against any effort, oh that pipeline, that fracking, that whatever will be a problem for you, and a lot of the money supporting that message was coming from Russia,”

As Salon notes it is not clear who "we" are and whether Hillary is referring to Russian meddling in the US (for example, the Keystone pipeline). Russian manipulation in Europe was widely alleged so Hillary backers can insist she meant that and of course she isn't releasing the speech so we just have to trust her.

Well. If you can't trust Hillary Clinton, Mark Zuckerberg and the failing NY Times then its time to go home. And start drinking.

Comments

[maryrose]

First
I want DWS in the well of the House disgraced.
Awans can return to Pakistan and forever be on the never can return list

[Threadkiller]

Repeating myself:

Fakebook Russian protests incite actual Antifa counterprotests.

[henry]

What? TM says it's 5 o'clock in JOM land?. Okey Doke.

[Jane]

New York!

[lyle]

Two posts referencing Idaho in two days? Well, how about that!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I am home and pretty tired, having packed about 10 boxes of glassware an another 20 of household goods, loaded the junk in the car and the dumpster (depending on whether it is trash or going to Goodwill.) Also packed about 10 boxes with auction-worthy items like collectible china, crystal, vintage kitchen stuff, etc.

Then I went to the grocery. I am gong to take a break and catch up on the news.NOT
Do not tell me it's 5PM in McGuire Country. I have a big bottle of Chilean wine but I am NOT starting this early, or I won't get the laundry done!

[Buckeye]

Do not tell me it's 5PM in McGuire Country. I have a big bottle of Chilean wine but I am NOT starting this early, or I won't get the laundry done!

You could tell those kids to wash their own damn clothes:)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Buckeye,

Part of the deal with me living with my daughter is doing the laundry. For one thing, she would let it pile up and I can't stand that. We don't have room for piles of laundry.

Sarah Sanders press conference is on now, and, as I assumed, the press is trying to pick the Charlottesville scab via the Tim Scott meeting.

[GUS]

RUSSIA had NOTHING to do with THAT VIDEO!!!!!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago

With Irma and Harvey devastation, Tax Cuts and Tax Reform is needed more than ever before. Go Congress, go!

[Old Lurker]

MM "Part of the deal with me living with my daughter is doing the laundry..."

Hmmm. I could bid for your services?

:-)

[Old Lurker]

Of course RG's head would explode.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/13/bannon-the-barbarian-conquers-60-minutes/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Old Lurker,

I smoke and have a large, bossy English shepherd. I think the cost-benefit analysis would not work well for you. :-)

[Threadkiller]

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/09/12/internet-of-things-cybersecurity/

No mention of smart meters.

[Old Lurker]

:-)

[Buckeye]

MM "Part of the deal with me living with my daughter is doing the laundry..."

Hmmm. I could bid for your services?

:-)

Mrs. Buckeye won't let me mess with the laundry, which she has covered. In return, I get the dinner cooking honors.

Any gourmet chefs looking for a rent free situation?? Jr.'s unused bedroom has a very nice view, private bathroom and a separate study/TV room:)

[Jane]

PA

[daddy]

Sarah gets another question from the Press Corps to explain what she means by Comey's illegal activity

Reporter: I want to follow up on some comments you made Yesterday about James Comey. That some of his conduct likely could have been illegal. I was wondering what specifically you were referring to there because the one thing you pointed out were the memos given to the NYTimes. But those didn't contain any Classified Information and were handed over once he was a private citizen.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders: The memos that Comey leaked were created on an FBI computer while he was the Director. He claims they were private property but they clearly follow the protocol of an official FBI document. Leaking FBI memos on a sensitive case regardless of classification violates Federal Laws including the Privacy Act, standard FBI Employee Agreement, and Non-disclosure Agreement all personal must sign. I think that's pretty clean and clear that that would be a violation.

Reporter: (Garbled) to see happen?

Sarah: Thats not up to me. I'm certainly not an Attorney but I think that the facts of the case are very clear.

[Another Bob]

maryrose | September 13, 2017 at 01:45 PM

I want DWS, any of her staff who were involved, any other congresscritters and staff who were involved, and the Awans in a max-security Federal prison beating rocks.

Next?

[Buckeye]

Cable and fast Internet included:)

[Buckeye]

Hey daddy, I watched the video your daughter stuck under your nose.

If we would have had those back in the day, I bet my Physics scores would have been better:)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.wibc.com/news/local-news/vp-pence-making-three-visits-indiana-push-tax-reform?utm_content=buffer04f58&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

[daddy]

Next reporter.

Reporter So you do believe that the acts Comey did in leaking those memos was illegal?

Sarah: The DOJ has to look into any allegations of illegality. Whether or not somethings illegal or not thats not up to me to decide. What I've said and what I'm talking about are facts. James Comey's leaking of information, questionable statements under Oath, politicizing an Investigation, those are real reasons for why he was fired and the President's decision was 100% right which we've said multiple times, over and over, and in fact I think the more we learn the more that's been vindicated.

[daddy]

Cool Buckeye. Wasn't that an interesting Video. She also made me watch this one: Why It's HARD To Land on Mars

She says I need to spend less time reading Political stuff:)

[maryrose]

AnotherBob:
I am a realist.
Ideally I agree with your scenario.
I however see what happened with Sandy Berger.
Loss of her House seat and public disgrace along with hefty lawyer fees might be all we get.
If she hires her brother,she gets free law service.

[daddy]

Reporter: ...On the question that was asked about Bernie Sanders Health Plan. In January the President in an interview with the WaPo said that he would like to see a plan that would offer Insurance for everybody and that would leverage Medicare and Medicaid that would do that. This is the president not supporting Bernie Sanders plan?

Sarah: (Big smile) I'm pretty sure that not only does the President not support it but America doesn't support it, or Bernie Sanders would be sitting in the Oval Office right now. He pushed these ideas forward during the campaign They were rejected. Not just by Americans but by Democrats. He didn't make it thru the Primary. I think thats a pretty clear indication of what America wants to see and its not a Singly Payer system.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

daddy,

I do not listen to "suggestions" about that. I don't tell my sisters to quit visiting romance writer sites and I expect them to leave me alone about politics, which I have followed since 1960.

I never understood people who are NOT interested in politics. First of all, it's our duty as citizens to understand the issues and know what's going on.

Second, I cannot imagine anything else that combines history, economic issues, gossip, espionage, and soap opera. And with the advent of President Trump, we get glamor and humor! It's great!

[lyle]

I think thats a pretty clear indication of what America wants to see and its not a Singly Payer system.

I think what America needs right now is a...Singularity Payer system!

[daddy]

Boy, Sarah Huck is terrific. She is just shoved 2 questions right back down the throat of 2 reporters asking snotty questions about why are Mitch McConnel and Paul Ryan not being at the White House Dinner tonight with select Senators. She does not suffer fools and is fretless. Sorry I ran out of tape to transcribe.

[daddy]

Fearless, not fretless*

Reporter asked a question that must be related to some earlier story or comment where someone said Hillary's book must have some lies or falsehoods in it. The reporter specifically asked about where in Hillary's book were there falsehoods, and Sarah replied something very close to this:

Sarah (Not verbatim but close) Anywhere in the book where Hillary lays blame for the loss on anyone but herself.

[lyle]

On a much more sickening and infuriating note:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/09/a-chappaquiddick-reckoning-at-last.php

A reckoning at least several decades too late.

[GUS]

For fux sake. Nah, the MEDIA is biased FULL COMMIE. Not at all.

[Buckeye]

Daddy, so is she intent on being a real, honest-to-God rocket scientist?

Tell her you will sign up to land the first craft on Mars, but only if you can read "The Great Upheaval" on the check ride:)

[daddy]

21 victories in a row for Cleveland! Apparently a new record in the American Leagues more than 100 years of History. Darn impressive, Tribe!

[lyle]

The final sentence from that link:

The fact that the Democratic Party still reveres Ted Kennedy tells you everything you need to know about how low that party has fallen.

Sadly, a not insignificant percentage of the Republican Party isn't too far above.

[Janet the expert 🚬]

The reporter specifically asked about where in Hillary's book were there falsehoods,

IF only the MFM would ask questions like that of HIllary or any Dem.
Specifics.
There's a concept.

[jimmyk]

I think what America needs right now is a...Singularity Payer system!

Isn't Obamacare already a black hole?

[that's not an allusion to skin color, incidentally]

[daddy]

From Lyle's Powerline link:

I don’t say any of this as a right-wing troll. But those are the facts, and they are facts that liberals, too often, have been willing to shove under the carpet. And they have paid the price. Ted Kennedy became known as “the Lion of the Senate,” and did a lot of good...

What "good" did Ted Kennedy do? .

[lyle]

Teddy provided Mary Jo comfort in her old age, daddy...

[daddy]

Buckeye,

She doesn't know what she wants to do but is simply mentally interested in tons of things and wants to make sure her Dad keeps mentally interested in all sorts of things as well. I appreciate the things she brings up to my mind but like most outsiders they have little idea of the wide ranging topics JOM can lead to on any given day.

[caro]

I have Jane's location on my phone now. How cool is that! Just south of I-80 on I-84.

[daddy]

Cool, Caro. I think she is somewhere near Scranton. Anyone know what AM Talk Station Dennis Prager is on near Scranton heading southbound?

[lyle]

I mean, had she lived, of course...

[henry]

Caro got a job at NSA? Cool.

[lyle]

https://spectator.org/the-alternate-nostril-breathing-of-lady-macbeth/

She writes: “If you’ve never done alternate nostril breathing, it’s worth a try.… It may sound silly, but it works for me. It wasn’t all yoga and breathing: I also drank my share of chardonnay.”

Surprisingly funny, huh?

[daddy]

Big Brother Mother is watching:)

[henry]

I also drank my share of chardonnay

understatement of the year.

[Jane]

Caro we are on 81. Catch up!!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.dennisprager.com/find-a-station/

daddy,

If you fill this out, it will give you a station. I don't know the zip code for Scranton or I would fill it out.

[lyle]

More:

Hillary, when not insisting upon her own claimed superiority, sounds less like Lady Macbeth than Madame Bovary. Hillary, Bovary-like, cops to a frenzied attempt to find pleasure and meaning in the void of her denied dream, in everything from movies, plays, and evening soaps to sentimental books to even religion. “I prayed a lot,” she writes. “I can almost see the cynics rolling their eyes.”

They should, especially after she likens her defeat to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. She ludicrously quotes a Methodist minister who told her, “You are experiencing a Friday. But Sunday is coming!”

Bet she "prayed" more to her boy, Saul's, dedicatee, Lucifer.

[Old Lurker]

18510

[daddy]

QUIZTIME: Fill In the Blank Edition.

BREAKING NEWS: Man 'shouting _____ _____ attacks seven people including three police officers in Toulouse'

Was he shouting:

A) Kumbaya
B) Antifa
C) MAGA
D) Allahu Akbar

[Old Lurker]

Roll Tide?

[henry]

I'm with her?

[lyle]

F) I'm your huckleberry?

[Jane]

Way past Scranton. 63 miles from harrisburg

[daddy]

Roll Tide?

:)

[lyle]

H) You're all deplorables?

[jimmyk]

Vero possumus?

[lyle]

In Vino Veritas?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

OK, I filled out the form with the Scranton zip code.

I got this message:

"Your submission to find a station for The Dennis Prager Show has been submitted. We will reply as soon as possible."

==================================

Obviously Prager isn't concerned about EFFICIENCY! A simple program hooking up zip codes with current station listings would be an easy thing to do. I imagine I am now going to be on Prager's email list since I had to enter my name and email address.

I am not happy about this and will remove myself from the list as soon as I get the station, which I assume will be emailed to me.

This also may be a way to encourage people to sign up for his app, of which the link for downloading is included on the same link I posted above.

Grrr.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

What did you frogs think was going to happen?

[daddy]

Sorry Miss M,

But Dennis really is a treat to listen to. I cannot praise him highly enough. I have a different site up which is a google type map of the locations that broadcast him 990 AM in Philly---then nothing until 1260 AM in DC.

Ughh. FOX Breaking News says they are "pulling bodies out of everywhere" in the demolished Florida Keys.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

From the last thread;

Mr. Rago suffered from the inflammatory disease sarcoidosis, which affected his lungs, heart, spleen, hilar and mediastinal lymph nodes. “The manner of death is natural,” Ms. Bolcer said.

That's what I had 7 or 8 years ago, although only in my lungs. It usually resolves itself although it can leave scar tissue behind.
Reggie White the football player and Bernie Mack the comedian both died of complications of it.
Seems to be more aggressive in blacks, which should be impossible since race is just a social construct.

[jimmyk]

Ringo seems like a MAGA guy (Brit version):

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/908031769747886080

(Re Brexit: "I think, you know, to be in control of your own country is a good move.")

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I yield to no one in my contempt for Beelzebub Rodham, but she is not the problem. The adoring fans, the tear swept dumbasses last November, the featherheaded, starry eyed True Believers who look at Medusa and see a Messiah are.
Hillary makes little or no effort to even hide her sociopathy and it means nothing to the murmuring myrmidons and the marching morons who constitute her constituency.

[Clarice Feldman]

Exactly, Iggy, and I still don't see how they can be so blinkered.

[lyle]

I have a good friend from grade school who has sarcoidosis. He's still alive in his late 50s.

[daddy]

Headline, but I won't link to the story:

Chelsea Manning Named Visiting
Fellow at Harvard Kennedy
School’s Institute of Politics

[Old Lurker]

Saw that, daddy, but could not bring myself to mention it.

[lyle]

The adoring fans, the tear swept dumbasses last November, the featherheaded, starry eyed True Believers, the NRO and WSJ editors and GOPe Uniparty members, who look at Medusa and see a Messiah are.

Omission correction.

[jimmyk]

The articles suggested that sarcoidosis isn't generally fatal but can be. One got the impression that Rago just went home from work one day and was found dead, but presumably he was dealing with it and kept it private. Still, I would have thought he'd at least have been hospitalized. Very sad.

[daddy]

OL,

It's a Washington Free Beacon story so I don't think it's a hoax.

The John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University has named convicted felon and transgender activist Chelsea Manning as a visiting fellow at its Institute of Politics for the 2017-18 academic year. Harvard´s announcement of its incoming class of visiting fellows at the Institute of Politics celebrates Manning´s inclusion as the program´s "first transgender fellow."

[jimmyk]

Hillary makes little or no effort to even hide her sociopathy and it means nothing to the murmuring myrmidons and the marching morons who constitute her constituency.

It tells you the state of the Democrat party, which is possibly even worse than that of the GOP. Look at who are being mentioned as candidates for 2020, it's pathetic. Kamala, Fauxcahontas, Oprah, Cory ("Meet my imaginary friends") Booker? The only real threat to Trump is from within the GOP.

[lyle]

The only real threat to Trump is from within the GOP.

Same as it ever was.

[Frau Mirabile dictu]

How can Chelsea Manning be called a fellow? Didn't we just fight a war to settle that?

[Jack is Back!]

According to Stephanie all those bodies in the Keys are whinging Yankees:)

daddy,

Loved that "nutshell" series. Very well done. Similar approach Feynman used in his lectures. Made it fun to learn and nothing over your head. Sharing with Frederick this evening.

IMO, Hillary reminds me more of Lenora Helmsley than anyone.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Clarice,

Allow me to introduce you to my middle sister, who cried for 2 days after Trump won. She just retired from a career in retail.

She and my brother (retired union) are the only dems. My other two sisters voted for Trump.

When all the stuff came out about Clinton and Monica, her reaction was "All men act like that." I asked her if her husband did, or our brother. "No, but they weren't in positions of power."

She thinks Hillary is smart. She thinks that Hillary is a persecuted person. She owns BOTH of her books (prior to this current one but she will probably buy that one as well.)

She thinks there is something wrong with those of us who voted for Trump. Seriously. She acts like we are alien species.

I do not talk politics with her. She so heavily identifies as a democrat that she defends Obamacare and ascribes evil intentions to any Republican, even moderate ones.

Her only news-watching is NBC nightly news unless there is something like the hurricane, and then she watches CNN.

It's very strange. I can only assume that she feels like abandoning the democrats would place her in opposition to my brother and also undermine the memory of our dad, who was a southern democrat.

It's a strange situation, because on individual issues she is fairly conservative, but Hillary is like some icon to her that she will not give up, no matter what.

My teacher sister dropped the dems when they defended Bill Clinton during impeachment. She has voted GOP ever since. My youngest sister the nurse dropped the dems when they started talking about government run health care, sometime back in the 90's.

It's like she is frozen in time.

[Frau Mirabile dictu]

The slope was greased by the Democrats...

In order to protect a rapist in the WH, the left made one out of Thomas Jefferson with innuendo and lies dressed up as "science" to establish a new "fact."

Femall

[Frau Mirabile dictu]

At least some good news today from Zogby:

"Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a media and Clinton favorite, is dead last with just 1 percent supporting his candidacy in the Zogby Analytics survey of likely Democratic primary voters provided exclusively to Secrets."

A delightful Dead Last! Of course, we know what will happen when Tricky Terry gets his hands on the votes.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Chitown Lurker directed me to this Thomas Wictor thread, discussing the McMaster controversy.

https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/908055809891766272

Includes transcripts of the ACTUAL STATEMENT, not what some unidentified source claimed.

[rse]

I finally have both power and internet. The publix near me had to throw out its fresh produce and meats and a leyland cypress where the root cracked from the wind is about to be taken down before it hits neighbor's house.

[Dave (in MA)]

Posted by: daddy | September 13, 2017 at 03:39 PM , aloha snackbar--we may never know what his motive was.

[daddy]

If anyone cares, here's ESPN's NFL Diversity Rookie Mexican sidelines reporter explaining his poor job on the sidelines on Monday Night Football. ESPN reporter explains ‘Monday Night Football’ debacle

Whoever put him on the sidelines should be shot. This maroon has no business whatever on the sidelines but he would probably be a great addition as a "visiting fellow to The John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University."

[daddy]

It tells you the state of the Democrat party, which is possibly even worse than that of the GOP. Look at who are being mentioned as candidates for 2020, it's pathetic. Kamala, Fauxcahontas, Oprah, Cory ("Meet my imaginary friends") Booker?

JimmyK,

Don't forget Michelle Obama. Doug Schoen is in her corner saying she is the best the Dems have to offer at this time. Michelle Obama outshines all Democratic prospects for 2020

[Clarice Feldman]

If Michelle runs let's all vote for reducing the voting age to include kids who ate her mandated public school lunches.

[rse]

https://inequality.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/The-Road-to-Zero-Wealth_FINAL.pdf is one of the things awaiting when I got my internet back.

It's all about the Racial Wealth Divide and what must be done to eradicate it.

[cboldt]

Well isn't that great timing. I'm in Toulouse all next week. Look at the bright side, the attack is "out of the way."

Sarah">https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/09/13/press-briefing-press-secretary-sarah-sanders-9132017-14">Sarah sanders Presser Transcript

[cboldt]

Try that press conference link again ... Sarah Sanders Presser Transcript

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Clarice,

My grandson became a Republican in high school because of those lunches. To this day he goes nuts when you bring them up.

He's 21 and voted for Trump.

[Jack is Back!]

Didn't she start that lunch program in 2010? If so, by 2020 if you were in 3rd grade then and had to sneak in a real lunch you will eligible to vote. I'll bet the pollsters haven't figured tha out yet.

[Clarice Feldman]

See how brilliant my plan is, MM?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Absolutely, Clarice! I brought up my grandson as evidence of your brilliance.

All we would need to do is run an ad reminding the younger set of those lunches, along with photos. (There are a BUNCH on the internet.)

Then tell them that the lunches are examples of how the whole country would be run with Michelle.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Forgot to say that President Trump was shown on Fox this afternoon with a few comments on the tax plan.

1. 15% for corporate, same as China
2. Big cuts for middle class
3. No cuts for 1% and maybe even a slight increase
4. Simplification

Speculation after his statement was that this was how he would get dems to sign on. Might be. I think it's a pretty good plan. CoC will probably oppose it, but to heck with them.

I will look for a video, which will probably show up pretty soon.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Found it!

https://www.c-span.org/video/?434016-1/president-says-rich-may-pay-higher-taxes

[JimNorCal]

Seeing comments like this at various places on web. Does this seem to be the the most likely explanation?

"2017 SEPTEMBER 12 7:50 PM
[20]
drdog09 PERMALINK

Wonder why two destroyers collided with lumbering VLCC’s? —
“Fox News – The majority of ships operating in the U.S. Navy’s Seventh Fleet, where two destroyers have been involved in fatal collisions since June, weren’t certified to conduct basic operations at sea related to war-fighting.
Eight of the 11 cruisers and destroyers in the Seventh Fleet, and their crew members, weren’t certified by the U.S. Navy to conduct “mobility seamanship,” or basic steering of the ship.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/07/us-navy-says-most-7th-fleet-warships-lacked-proper-certification.html

Might as well call them the Diversity Division of the USN. And remember this is the team that has been tasked with shooting down Nork ICBMs during boost phase. Have bombshelter?"

[maryrose]

What do you think about the Graham/ Cassidy Healthcare Plan?
Earlier Cassidy and Susan Collins tried to present a plan which was not voted on.

[Jane]

Jim, caro had a really interesting conversation with Johnhelon about that on the cruise.

[jimmyk]

It's like she is frozen in time.

Like Miss Havisham?

Come to think of it, I can imagine Hillary locked in her mansion, with all the clocks still set at 11pm and the calendar Nov 8, 2016, cobwebs growing over the party platters for her victory celebration.