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September 26, 2017



Holy cow!
This conveyer is speeding up


From the internet:

Villanueva's parents, Ignacio Villanueva and Matilda Martin, are natives of Spain, as are Villanueva's two sisters and brother. Alejandro Villanueva was born in Meridian, Mississippi, when his father was stationed there while serving in the Spanish Navy.

About the only concession the afterbirthers gave was that children of diplomats are not eligible for jus soli birthright citizenship. I wonder how they feel about that now?

Maybe Villanuaeva is more worried about skeletons in the vital records closet than he is about cowards in a locker room.

So, he compromised...


Spanish Navy, stationed in Mississippi?


“I got 30 percent of the crew that’s not loyal to the flag.”

These must not be happy with the Constitutional distribution of power.

“There’s too many ways in the present process for someone who doesn’t want to get (a regulatory action) done to put it a holding pattern.”

The globalist bureaucracy of expert analysts. ie those who stop any development on Federal lands, simply because they can. The "pirates" that captured the ship by revolving door from Sierra Club etc.


The actual quote from Zinke says "not loyal to the flag" but the eye catching synopsis says that they aren't loyal to him or Trump.


Captain Hate

It's like the Louisiana Purchase never happened.


Working for NATO, Jim.


High school in Belguim catering to US military families and in Villanueva's case foreign NATO personnel. I don't like the idea that he received a coveted West Point spot because he could help Army win games.


Moving this comment of Deb's over from the old thread . . .

--Villavueva's statement was over the top imo, indicating the blowback in his clubhouse and others was very ugly and freaked him out.--

You get hit a certain way during a play on the field and you can be crippled for life. I suspect a number of the BLM kneelers reminded him of that.

Which makes me wonder about all the money involved with the gambling that takes place on NFL games. The people who run those gambling enterprises aren't known for their gentle methods of persuasion. If more and more fans stop watching the games, won't they also stop gambling on them? The billionaire lefty owners might not care if they take a hit at the gate. Those guys in Vegas, though, might have a different point of view.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


That revolving door needs to be stopped. Don't know how to do it unless somehow it is discovered (as I have often theorized) that some of those environmental groups are acting as agents of a foreign government.

Hmmm. I wonder if that is what Zincke meaans by "not loyal to the flag."

Wouldn't THAT be something?


Yes Miss M. The Russian funded "environmentalists" that are anti fracking / anti mining.


If more and more fans stop watching the games, won't they also stop gambling on them?

I've always presuemed a big part of the NFL's success is owed to gambling. So I'd put the question as will betting decline, and then TV ratings as a consequence? I suspect yes, as it's not so inspiring to bet on teams that you hate.

Thomas Collins

Zinke's estimate is only one-third? Zinke is looking at the world with rose colored glasses.


So the MSM is now saying that loyalty to the flag is the same as loyalty to Trump? That the flag symbolizes the man Trump and not the United States of America? That loving one's country means you also have to love the man currently occupying the office of the president no matter what your personal opinion of him is? And if you don't love him, then you don't love your country? And that the only way to prove your hate for him is to hate your country?

That's quite some binary choice you're putting out there Libs. Do you really want to go there?

Thomas Collins

Villanueva's statement was so over the top that I suspect this was his way of signaling it was forced.

In any event, NFL is now on record as supporting free expression, at least during the pregame period. Time for a pro-life NFLer, before the anthem, to kneel in prayer with a pro life sticker prominently showing on his helmet.

Jim Eagle

I don't like the idea that he received a coveted West Point spot because he could help Army win gAames.


All service academies recruit athletes regardless of Congressional appointment. They have to pass minimum academic standards but most of their major sports athletics recruit over and above Congressional appointments which largely go to the kid's with high GPA, SAT, community service, etc.

The reason Army has elevated their football team in the last 2 years has been a more targeted recruitment campaign.


Is there a more boring speaker than Janet Yellin?


Great suggestion, I'll watch Janet Yellin videos when insomnia strikes which unfortunately is frequently lately


And, JiB, Army has done less of this than the Air Force and the Navy . . . and it has showed on the field of play.

We need more athletes at West Point.

People underestimate the benefit of this type of legitimate mixing of student admissions.

Comanche Voter

I'd say that your average Federal agency has at least half of the staff--yup that's 50%--that's loyal (a) to their paycheck; and (b) sitting on their backside insuring that nothing gets done.

Politicians and political appointees come and go, but these Bartlebys stay forever.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

You know, I am thinking that there is a huge undercover operation going on against all sorts of stuff. Let's review:

1. Media; Trump has bypassed the regular venues with Twitter and Facebook and has no hesitation of calling them out. Confidence in news organizations is at the lowest point ever, ratings for TV news have tanked except for some Fox programs. Newspaper circulation has plummeted. (Not all of this attributable to Trump, though.)

2. Football: NFL has been revealed to be run by democrat sympathizers and employing former Obama officials. Organized national anthem protests aligned with Black Lives Matter surfaces, which outrages fans and Hillary chimes in trying to gin up a racism charge. Public sides with the President as ratings and attendance fall. Sponsors start backing away.

3. Basketball: NCAA corruption and bribery charges at 4 universities involving former NBA players who are now assistant coaches, along with Adidas. NBA players attack President and reveal themselves to be ungrateful thugs. Results on attendance yet to be determined.

4. Sports media: Revealed to be filled with leftists who think they are auditioning for CNN.

5. Universities: Sessions announces actions against universities who curtail free speech. Betsy DaVos rescinds the odious "guilty until proven innocent" kangaroo courts on charges of sexual assault.

6. Hollywood: As the industry descends into further Trump derangement Syndrome, Emmy Awards tank in ratings and people turn to classic movies on Netflix.

7. Deep State/Bureaucracy: Tillerson axes an entire floor in the State department; Pruitt lays off people at EPA. Now we have this statement from Zincke, which indicates to me he was well aware of the problems he would be facing when he took the job. "Loyal to the flag" indicates to me a more serious problem than liberals.

I sincerely believe President Trump has been thinking about this stuff for a long time. It seems to me he's advancing at various rates on quite a few fronts. I continue to keep him in my prayers.


JUST IN: Attorney General Sessions says Justice Dept. will be stepping up enforcement of free speech rights on college campuses - Reuters

It seems to me that several fronts on reclaiming our culture from the left have now been opened:

1. News media
2. Pro sports
3. Universities

I seriously think there is a plan here, even if people want to mock me.

Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | September 26, 2017 at 12:20 PM

This is part and parcel of my faith and patience mantra. These things take time if they're going to be proprely done and you benefit no one and nothing by responding to impatience. The better bet, the far better bet, is to be methodical. Dot the "i" and cross the "t" and, oh by the way, tailor it if at all possible for lead into the mid-term elections.

* * *

The Villanueva affair is worst-case scenario for the intended push by the leftwing, so I have to thank our Army Ranger for that much.

His standing alone on gameday, hand over heart, was seized upon by the nation and made the League-wide effort a joke, and then . . . the apology he was clearly forced to deliver has backfired, pissed off Pittsburgh, and firmed up the disgust at what was done last weekend in the NFL.

So much winning, my people, so damn much winning!

Dave (in MA)
Villanueva's statement was so over the top that I suspect this was his way of signaling it was forced.
Were his fingers visible when he was making his apology?

"not loyal to the flag"

That's very odd phrasing by Zinke, but given he's at Dept. of Interior, maybe he's thinking of "tribal nations" folks. This day last year BOzo was getting a lot of love at a tribal nations gathering. He greatly expanded/created national parks, wilderness areas, etc. and then put huge swaths off limits, even for recreational use.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Josh Lederman‏Verified account @joshledermanAP 7m7 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Trump administration slaps sanctions on 8 North Korean banks, 26 bank workers living abroad

Frau Rechtsverdreher
Zinke’s comments echo complaints by some White House allies that a permanent, “deep state” in Washington has sabotaged Trump’s efforts to remake restrain and fumigate the government.


A member of the Black Student Union at the University of California-Berkeley recently penned an op-ed complaining that she felt “violated” by Ben Shapiro’s appearance on campus.

“If your perceived definition of violence is limited to the confines of physical contact, that’s probably because you’ve never had to experience the psychological trauma that comes along with being a Black person in America,” declares Shelby Mayes, who serves as Membership Development Director for the BSU, in an op-ed for The Daily Californian. “I didn’t need to be physically harmed to feel violated by my school [on September 14].”


Interesting, though 12 years too late for Terry Schiavo:



your average Federal agency has at least half of the staff--yup that's 50%--that's loyal (a) to their paycheck; and (b) sitting on their backside insuring that nothing gets done watching porn on their computers.


Miss Marple the Deplorable


Ms. Mayes has just publicly confessed she is psychologically disturbed. I imagine she will also not understand why employers take a pass on her job applications.

Miss Marple the Deplorable



I bet a look at federal hiring during the BOzo years would be enlightening re which departments expanded/which didn't, which states benefited/, which suffered, etc.


In response to a NYT puff piece on Socialism:

David Burge‏ @iowahawkblog

Socialism is like a nude beach: sounds pretty good until you actually see it



"National Survey: Americans Agree with Trump on National Anthem and NFL Protests

While this is only one survey this is a survey conducted after President Trump declared war on NFL protesters in Alabama last Friday night, and if this poll is any indication, that war is already over.

The survey addresses the Trump factor directly:

Q7: Last week, Donald Trump said NFL players should stand and be respectful during the national anthem. Do you think NFL players should stand and be respectful during the national anthem?

Yes: 64%
No: 25%
Unsure: 11%

Q8: On Sunday, a number of NFL players knelt during the national anthem in protest of Donald Trump’s statements, including players from your favorite team. Does this make you more likely or less likely to watch your favorite team’s games in the future?

More likely: 30%
Less likely: 50%
No difference: 20%

That two-question sequence is devastating for the NFL. Within the space of those questions, the poll establishes that a significant majority of the American people agree with what Trump said in Alabama on Friday night. Moreover, it also shows that the NFL’s response to President Trump was a complete failure.

Not only that, the poll shows that President Trump is more popular than NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell personally:

Q1: What is your opinion of Donald Trump?

Favorable: 46%
Unfavorable: 47%
No opinion: 7%

Q2: What is your opinion of Roger Goodell?

Favorable: 12%
Unfavorable: 36%
No opinion: 52%


Miss Marple the Deplorable


Again, I don't know much about this site, but they do seem to be doing a lot of investigating.


Oh I'm pretty sure she'll find a nice job, Miss M.


Everyone in the NFL is a coward. The owners, the players, the sponsors. All cowards.

Anyone who supports them is a traitor to the United States of America.

There is no middle ground Mr. Jones. No apologies accepted Mr. Villanueva.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

President and PM of Spain on now.


did the Catalons vote?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Not yet, henry. I think it's tomorrow. I will have to check.


It appears that if you have cable or a streaming service that offers ESPN in your package, even if you don't watch it, ESPN still gets paid something (of course it hurts there advertising rates eventually).

Below is a link to the fees from 2009 (per the chart ESPN was getting $4 per month (most other channels well under a $1). CNN was getting 51 cents (probably less now, ha ha). So not watching doesn't stop the money flow, need to cut the cord.

Fee schedule:



Time for a pro-life NFLer, before the anthem, to kneel in prayer with a pro life sticker prominently showing on his helmet.

Wow, that's a terrific idea, call Goodell out on his selective free speech hypocrisy.



Describing the First Amendment, Jackson Lee said, “There is no basis in the First Amendment that says that you cannot kneel on the national anthem or in front of the flag. That is racism. You cannot deny it, you cannot run for it.

“You cannot abridge by standing up with tweets,” Jackson Lee added.



“The American university was once the center of academic freedom—a place of robust debate, a forum for the competition of ideas,” Sessions said. “But it is transforming into an echo chamber of political correctness and homogenous thought, a shelter for fragile egos.”

Sessions recounted a litany of recent examples where campus speakers have been shouted down or altogether prevented from appearing on campus by students who disagreed with them. Events at Middlebury College, University of California-Berkeley, and other campuses show that “freedom of thought and speech on the American campus are under attack,” Sessions said.

As evidence of that conclusion, Sessions pointed to an example from a community college in Battle Creek, Mich., where school officials had students arrested when they refused to stop handing out copies of the U.S. Constitution on campus.

The attorney general laid the blame for free speech restrictions not on students, but rather on college faculty and administrators who permit the suppression of free speech rights.

“College administrators also have silenced speech by permitting the heckler’s veto to control who gets to speak and what messages are conveyed. In these instances, administrators discourage or prohibit speech if there is even a threat that it will be met with protest,” Sessions said. “In other words, the school favors the heckler’s disruptive tactics over the speaker’s First Amendment rights.”


Shelia Jackson Lee's hero:



In honor of Shep Smith's dimwitted "of course it isn't disrespecting the flag" nonsense from earlier today, I want to note what a fine guests he and his boyfriend are when enjoying a night on the town (apologies in advance, as the link is to a not-safe-for-anything story from defunct clown-show Gawker, but the story itself is true regardless):


Jim Eagle

Time for a pro-life NFLer, before the anthem, to kneel in prayer with a pro life sticker prominently showing on his helmet.

Tim Tebow used to do that but without the sticker. He plays minor league baseball now but a 2bit QB named Kapernick is an the Dolphins roster. But the NFL according to Goodell is a role model and does so much good.

Well they do keep the Corrections Officers occupied.

Acknowledging the opposition to his visit, Sessions unequivocally defended the right of students and all Americans to protest the administration’s policies. That right extends to NFL players who kneel for the national anthem, Sessions said, but does not offer them protection from criticism, even by the president.

“The president has free speech rights, too,” Sessions said, referring to Trump’s Twitter broadsides against NFL teams and players. The attorney general suggested the players could win over more people to their argument if they protested in a different way.

“There are many ways these players, with all the assets they have, can express their political views … without denigrating the nation.”

Sessions’ defense of campus speech rights was not just rhetorical. He told students that the Department of Justice would take legal action to ensure that colleges uphold First Amendment protections.


Just checked our cable offerings (Uverse) and see ESPN 1&2. Ugh. At 3:00 pm "NFL Live" will discuss current happenings if anyone cares, which I don't.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Wictor just found this:



The "peeing pooch pose" seems to be catching on. I saw a solid blue uniformed NFLer doing so repeatedly while smiling bigly.


Slaves kneel.
Free men stand.

Do black people really want to make this kneeling thing a symbol of their "protest?"

I find this whole thing so bizarre on so many levels. The flag and the anthem are symbols of a country that has enshrined freedom of expression in its Constitution. So these people are kneeling like slaves before a symbol for freedom of expression as a protest of that symbol. While at the same time they force a veteran to apologize for exercising his own freedom of expression by standing like a man before that symbol, instead of kneeling like a slave.

And the congresswoman who is kneeling like a slave on the floor of congress bears the name of two white men whose names on statues now constitute a "hate crime" in her own eyes.

There is no coherence to their thinking. Scott Adams is right. The Left's useful idiots are trapped in a mass hysteria bubble.

Jim Eagle

This "knee" thing is taking off. Even the academic leftists who protested Session's free speech event at Georgetown today. But he is only half committed since he only wore one knee-pad.



Jerry Jones is a coward. He bowed to the money, the investors, the "players". He took a stand one morning and chickened out by that evening. Do people like Jerry Jones and the men who play a game for a lucrative living speak for you? They do not speak for me. They are not Americans and do not deserve the blessings of this land where so many have sacrificed so much and put their lives on the line - the real life and death line - so that they can play their stupid game, take in millions of dollars, and act like spoiled children..


Stone's opening statement to Gowd-mouth's committee:


Stone answers questions after Treytor's closed door hearing:


Miss Marple the Deplorable

As a reminder and in my continuing effort to note this stuff, here's an article from last year:



The Falcons finished last season at #7, not great but not bad. Now rooting for the Falcons to win and the Steelers to lose makes the season more interesting, even though we're mostly SEC football watchers.


Villanuaeva's about-face happened after it was reported that his gear was rapidly becoming the NFL's top seller.

Leg breaking mob goons and dirty hits on the field wouldn't be getting ordered for a loss of revenue. They would get ordered for a loss of narrative.

The fans actual support would be very tough to hide if the sales continued.

Villanuaeva wasn't supposed to outsell Kappernick. So they took him off the free market.


Good link to Stone's statement, TK. Good to see fighters on our side for a change.


So now we have a university professor kneeling before a Trump administration official.

Think about those optics, and smile to yourself.


Steelers!Surely you mean Kneelers.

Old Lurker

Did JOM ever reach a consensus (ha ha) on Strange v Moore?


I cannot wait for the ratbags to start kneeling before Trump. We will back to the Clinton years.

Always in the past.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

You want a national conversation on race? OK. But you're not going to like it.


Miss Marple the Deplorable

I support Strange, OL, because I know what's going to happen if Moore wins. The President wants Strange, so that's who I support.


Yes, Moore.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I suspect what Zinke considers loyalty is the bare minimum of some useless goldbrick actually getting off its ass and obeying a lawful directive from its boss.
Like others I'm surprised he thinks it's only 30%.


My taste in music runs, admittedly, to sappy pop by comparison with the ardent and sophisticated JOM music lovers.

But I wanted to pass along a snip of lyric, well delivered in my opinion and may as well drop a link. For the Ledge dwellers.
"And even though I tell myself
all is lost
somewhere there's a spark of hope.
Somehow the world keeps turning,
promising a better day.
Somewhere the spark is burning

JOM is a place where a spark of hope is burning, no? :)

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Those of you cleaning out attics, do not discard old Halloween items. List of interesting prices on right side of screen:



If Moore wins today and tomorrow Trump wants Moore, will you support Moore with no objections?

Old Lurker

MM "because I know what's going to happen if Moore wins"

What will happen?


If Moore wins Ted Cruz will take a knee, OL.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Yes. He wouldn't be my choice (nor s he President Trump's) but if he wins the election, then I will support him over the democrat.

Old Lurker

Regardless of who Trump says he wants, if Mitch McConnell and the GOPe want Strange, then I want Moore to kick ass.

See how easy that was?

Miss Marple the Deplorable


The dems have already telegraphed they are going to run ads including his most controversial comments. Moderate GOP have indicated they will stay home. National media will hang Moore around the President's neck as an extremist.

If Moore wins, he already said he wouldn't vote for the healthcare repeal bill.

He is also on record saying that 9/11 was God's judgement on America.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Whatever. I have said all I am going to say. I have no interest in having another obstructionist like Rand Paul.


Does Google never tire of honoring leftists, fringe lunatics and people of all colors except white? today's obscure Lefty is:
Gloria Evangelina Anzaldúa (September 26, 1942 – May 15, 2004) was an American scholar of Chicana cultural theory, feminist theory, and queer theory.

Today's her birthday. big friggin deal

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Saudi Arabia will allow women to drive.


The dems have already telegraphed they are going to run ads including his most controversial comments. Moderate GOP have indicated they will stay home

2016 all over again.


JOM is a place where a spark of hope is burning, no? :)

Unless you've just read one of OL's posts, then JOM is a place where the spark of liver cirrhosis is burning.


Saudi Arabia will allow women to drive.

The Auto Body Repair Shop lobbyists have won a major victory.


That is,a grand slam on stones part, Moore has won practically every context except the last governor's race, where he placed second, the one caught in the text zcandal.

pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

For what it is worth:


Old Lurker

Thanks MM. But if the only way out of the box we are in is to primary every R that smells like UniParty-R, then I say start with the one before us. If Moore wins, then (sorry), that to me sends Trump a message I would like him to receive. If Moore does not carry the state, then there is no hope for us anyway and I can start charging for rooms on the Ledge.

Old Lurker

"I have no interest in having another obstructionist like Rand Paul."

I can name several sitting R Senators I would gladly exchange for another Rand Paul.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--The dems have already telegraphed they are going to run ads including his most controversial comments.--

Are they more controversial than Trump's?

Captain Hate


Old Lurker

"JOM is a place where a spark of hope is burning, no? :)

Unless you've just read one of OL's posts..."

Cocktails at 6pm.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Old Lurker,

Exactly what message are you trying to send?

And why do you think President Trump doesn't know the players, who he can work with, and who he can't?

Seems to me the message electing Strange would send is that President Trump has far more political clout than the GOPe believes he does, and they had better get on board or else.

You seem to think that Trump doesn't know what he's doing, doesn't know how ineffective McConnell is, and adding to the mix by sending a guy who ignores the law is just what the doctor ordered.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


If President Trump has said that 9/11 was a judgement by God on America, no. Otherwise, yes.


The Pittsburgh Kneelers.

I like that, Davod! May I borrow it?

an American scholar of Chicana cultural theory, feminist theory, and queer theory

Impressive! Anyone know what these theories are? Anything like quantum theory or string theory?

Oh, hell. I'll look it up.

Chicana Theory:

The oppression of the Chicana is intricate and arises from a multitude of domineering means. She is an ethnic minority, she is woman who is universally oppressed by men, and her Chicano heritage exaggerates this male domination over women. The first type of oppression mentioned is due to ethnicity of the Chicana. The Chicano culture is politically and economically exploited by Anglo society. Chicanos are considered subordinate, dependent and have been subjected to numerous accounts of genocide. Another type of oppression is due to gender. Women across the vast majority of cultures are considered subordinate and are universally oppressed by her male counterpart. In addition, there is also an internal oppression caused by the Chicana heritage. Some identify this as �machismo� and caused by the colonization of the Chicano. Whatever the origin, it has a depreciating effect on the Chicana and must be addressed.

Now should I try to find all the experimental data that supports this "theory?"


It isn't a question of whether Trump knows what he is doing. It is a question of how sure we are of what he is doing.

IMO, his support for Strange was mandatory and he knows what he is doing to meet the goal of "showing loyalty."

Also, IMO, if he told Bannon, Gorka, Carson, Palin, etc to STFU, they would out of loyalty.

Trump is on a mission to derail the legislative branch and Moore is a perfect fit.

I believe Trump always knows what he is doing and I am pretty sure that I have figured it out.

I don't begrudge you for independently believing he is up to something else because I know you believe Trump knows what he is doing.

In reality it is quite amazing that he can work misdirection to his favor so many times.

I just wanted to be clear that one can think a different plan is afoot without believing that it is a result of incompetence on Trump's part.

Captain Hate

Round 'em up:


Old Lurker

.MM, have you ever encountered a post regarding Trump which differs from what you think to which you did not jump to an eleventy defense?

You know damn good and well what my issues are with Trump's presidency to date, you know damn good and well that I support him still, and yet you always respond aggressively to defend your man against the mildest of criticism or eyebrow raising.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Old Lurker,

Oh, excuse me. I didn't realize I wasn't supposed to answer back.

Here, have your platform to spread gloom and doom. I need to get ready to go pick up my old Jeep, which just got a new radiator.

Have a delightful afternoon.

Moore, a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate, made the remarks at the Open Door Baptist Church in Enterprise, AL in February. He read from Isaiah 30:12-13 and made the connection.

“[B]ecause you have despised His word and trust in perverseness and oppression, and say thereon … therefore this iniquity will be to you as a breach ready to fall, swell out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instance,'” Moore said. “Sounds a little bit like the Pentagon, whose breaking came suddenly at an instance, doesn’t it? If you think that’s coincidence, if you go to verse 25, ‘there should be up on every high mountain and upon every hill rivers and streams of water in the day of the great slaughter when the towers will fall.'”

“You know, we’ve suffered a lot in this country, maybe, just maybe, because we’ve distanced ourselves from the one that has it within his hands to heal this land,” he added.


I don't think it will hurt him.


TK is right.

Old Lurker

While you are gone, I will search my comments to find where I asked you or anyone else for that matter not to post, ever.


Oh, this burden of oppression that I have to endure! It is everywhere--oppression from whites, oppression from men. What to do? Yhe oppression is so heavy; it weighs me down. How will i ever be able to go on?

I must take a knee and rest.


At least if Trump endures and America gets much better off than before .... OL will be happy about it unlike Appalled who will of course still be Appalled.

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