California Burning

These wildfires in California are almost certainly a man-made disaster:

The cause of the fires, which flared overnight Sunday and blew swiftly through 170,000 acres in the following days, was unknown and likely to remain so for some time.

Pimlott, the Cal Fire chief, said the possibility that a lightning strike started the fires was “minimal.” In California, he said, 95 percent of wildfires are started by people, inadvertently or intentionally.

I don't know why terrorists wouldn't start wildfires. That, and the failure to emulate the DC Sniper strike me as monumental and extremely fortunate failures of imagination on the part of Al Qaeda and ISIS.

SINCE I MENTIONED IT: Think back to the confusion and concern the DC Sniper and his partner caused. Now imagine that two teams of two using the same type of rifle and driving color-coordinated vans were operating on the East Coast. How long would it take the people connecting the dots to realize they were tracking more than one team?

 

Comments

[anon]

First

[maryrose]

First!

[anon ( AKA common man )]

Its me

[maryrose]

Oops, missed it by that much.

[Clarice Feldman]

It would help whatever the cause if the govt allowed people to clear the damn brush.

Speaking of which:http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/gop-rep-gohmert-shock-reporter-reveals-imran-awan-accessed-house-server-pakistan-video/

[Marlene]

First! I remember the DC sniper fear. During that time,the daughter called and said,I was at the shopping center across the street from the Home Depot where one of the victims was killed. Scared the carp out of me.

[Marlene]

Geez!!!

[Threadkiller]

From 2012:

Al Qaeda has called upon its followers to unleash massive forest fires upon the United States this summer.

Published in the latest edition of the notorious terror magazine, 'Inspire', are graphic instructions for the creation and ignition of 'ember bombs'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138758/Unleash-Hell-New-Al-Qaeda-magazine-describes-start-huge-forest-fires-U-S-instructions-make-ember-bombs.html

[maryrose]

You have to move fast to be first Marlene.

[anon ( AKA common man )]

A very large soccer tourament was cancelled due to the sniper fears. WAGS ( Washington Area Girls Soccer ). One of the biggest tournaments in the country and a magnet for college coaches looking for talent for their college rosters...

[Ralph L]

the shopping center across the street from the Home Depot
Across the street being Wilson Blvd? Still scary close. Loved the Chinese restaurant that was there before the Home Depot. My eye doctor and orthodontist were on the other side of rt 7.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Clarice,

Went to the West ELm site. Lots of openings, but none in Indy. Put myself on their jobs email list. Thanks!

[Ralph L]

My dad planned to drive down here from Alexandria right after the shooting on I95 above Richmond. That was a scary time.

[Threadkiller]

Quick catchup notes.

Bori, I read your comment and i think it is an accurate summary of the confusion and how the timeline can be flawed.

Windansea, you actually suggested that I shouldn't be afraid to put my theory out on JOM. I consider that a childish taunt. Let's get a show of hands of anyone who has been here for the last 8 years that thinks that I am afraid to write anything on JOM. We know the answer.

If you want to see my theory, go back and look for it.

Clarice, you are spot on with the brush clearing. Tom McClintock has some good stuff regarding that on his website.

The power companies will take a beating on this fire, IMO.

RIP to all the people killed by this mess.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Threadkiller,

I heard the death toll was up to 17. I cannot think of anything more frightening than big fires like that. Just horrible!

[maryrose]

My hand is raised.
Usually you choose to leave when a poster gets too close over the target.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago

Happy to announce we are awarding $1M to Las Vegas - in order to help local law enforcement working OT to respond to last Sunday’s tragedy.
=======================================

Maybe the extra money will help them get the time line straight.

[daddy at the Happy Mexican]

Broken record time!

I see during catch up (2 threads back) that there is discussion of Trade schools etc. my current co-pilot is very happy that his oldest just got picked up by the Air Guard flying some Military variety of the 767. That is great and he is guaranteed employment by that move for the rest of his life since the Airlines are screaming for new qualified pilots, since 99% of Americans can't even drive a stick shift anymore.

This son went to a small Christian Colege in Texas named Laturno(sp) where besides the decent curriculum the kids learn flying since it is where they train students to do the aviation puddle-jumping that Missionary flying into the hinterlands demands in South America.

I would never have thought about how they get Missionary Pilots until my good co-worker mentioned it. For the money spent, I would much rather have the Laturno puddle jumping skill at graduation than the Ancient History degrees from Dartmouth, since one is a skill somebody will pay you for, all things being equal since they ain't of course. 😀

Oh well. Simply passing this on that the civilian Aviation business is open and becoming more and more desperate for pilots, and I'd feel safer having an AA Aviation degree out of CWU in Washington State hauling my behind around than a Political Science grad student from any Ivy in America. Sorry for sounding like a broken record on this, but it's what I do and see everyday. We are in essence glorified bus drivers. Anybody reasonably intelligent and competent can do it, but from the outside I think it appears so daunting and unreachable that few folks do it, so nobody knows it's available. And in the long run it's the funniest occupation and easiest occupation in the world. 2nd Margharitta talking.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Now I am convinced someone is leaning on the New York Times. Nicholas Kristof is re-publishing this open letter from Dylan Farrow, first published in 2014, in which she recounts being abused by Woody Allen:

https://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/an-open-letter-from-dylan-farrow/?smid=tw-share

[henry]

Daddy, enjoy it while it lasts. It'll be drones for airplanes and trucks soon. (Cars too if they think they can get away with it). Can't have people doing stuff.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4971098/Cara-Delevingne-reveals-Harvey-Weinstein-wanted-threesome.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailceleb

[Marlene]

Ralph,all I remember is she was shoe shopping earlier in the day. She lived in Arlington/Alexandria before she got married.

[daddy at the Happy Mexican]

Today: Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert was in absolute shock as Luke Rosiak revealed that Imran Awan spent several months each year in Pakistan and was STILL accessing the House server remotely.

“I’ve seen records indicating that he (Imran Awan) spent 3 to even more months per year in Pakistan. I’ve also seen emails that indicated that he was doing his job remotely in Pakistan,” Rosiak said.

“So he had access in doing the job in providing security for House members from Pakistan?? Seriously?!” Gohmert asked.

Gohmert was in absolute shock as he continued to wrap his head around the fact that a person was able to access a government server from Pakistan, calling the news “staggering”.

Yesterday:. First, I should note that it was standing room only in the packed courtroom at the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia Friday morning ... okay, just kidding, actually, only a few reporters sat in the mostly empty wooden benches in the back of the courtroom. Anyone who didn’t know this was the latest scene in a slowly exploding political scandal would have thought this was only a forgettable bank fraud case.
The deeper you dig the more it becomes clear this case is about much more than bank fraud.
Awan’s attorney, Chris Gowen, even told me: “This case is hardly newsworthy.”

[henry]

Miss M, I still see a reaction to DeVos unplugging the Obama Title IX scam on "rape" at universities. Except now guilty until proven guiltier processes enforced by EEOC through mandatory "diversity departments" at all employers. This is not about Hollywood.

[Clarice Feldman]

we have a lot of fun riding along with you, daddy, online.

[Clarice Feldman]

You're welcome, MM.

[Marlene]

henry,I wonder if drones will give my dog a treat when they leave a package. The UPS driver gave the dog a treat when he made a delivery this afternoon. :)

[matt, deplore me if you must]

daddy, I have made that comment to my pilot friends as well. They don't seem to like it. But I have never called any of them Kramden.

The Canyon 2 fire near us is the second big fire in 10 days in the same general location. I wonder what the fire marshals are going to find?

Those Napa/Sonoma fires seem really odd. All over the place within a small distance.

We were warned that this year would have extreme fire hazard conditions because of the winter's rain.

There have been several cases of arson in CA that have resulted in life terms or worse. Some very stupid/wicked people out there.

[Captain Hate]

We are in essence glorified bus drivers. Anybody reasonably intelligent and competent can do it

You're being way too modest imo. People who are really good at something get a false sense of ease about the difficulty level. A friend of mine once complimented a really good pianist who said "eh, anyone can do this". When he told me that I said first that it was empirically false and that he was just illustrating how easy it was to him.

[matt, deplore me if you must]

the tell is when things go to hell, CH. Pilots train for that regularly, unlike bus drivers. But it's sill fun to razz them.

Reading Proust at 36,000' with your feet up on the dash is a heck of a job benefit.

[JimNorCal]

More West Point shenanigans. Ugh.
http://americanmilitarynews.com/2017/10/exclusive-former-west-point-professors-letter-exposes-corruption-cheating-and-failing-standards-full-letter/

[Captain Hate]

A member of the Horde remarked that some imbecile on state radio is saying the left are better than the right because they feel really really bad about Weinstein and we haven't tried to lynch Ailes and BOR. Keep banging that chicken, Junior.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

henry,

I am sure that you are right and those issues are probably connected.

On the other hand, it seems to me that, as is discussed in this article, there is some degree of financial exposure to a great many large corporations, including the Walt Disney Company.

Dinging those companies for big bucks either through settlements, damage awards, or federal fines, would sort of shut a lot of these people up and keep them from throwing money around at leftist causes.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/11/weinstein-protege-ben-affleck-apologizes-for-groping-actress/#comments

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Captain Hate,

They feel really, really bad because they got caught. Nothing else.

[Michael (fpa P4F)]

From 2012:
Al Qaeda has called upon its followers to unleash massive forest fires upon the United States this summer.
Posted by: Threadkiller | October 11, 2017 at 04:38 PM

Tk - Thanks for that link. I remembered that I had heard/read about Al Qaeda's calling for Hamas and Hezbollah? followers to use firebombs to set fire to Israel's countryside.

Our family has discussed concerns about terrorists using arson/wildfires to attack the West for years now. Don't even want to contemplate the water and power systems that are so vulnerable throughout the U.S.

I'm just thankful they don't appear to be serious about bringing their fight to our shores.

[Captain Hate]

Absolutely, Matt; I just wanted the opportunity to step out of character and say something nice about the Tarhole.

[henry]

Jim, I recall a similar cheating scandal at West Point in the mid 70s (Carter was President). It led my grandfather to recommend I avoid West Point and go OCS after college instead. I would have been the third Henry to become a cadet, following my grandfather and uncle.

[JimNorCal]

henry, a heavy price to pay.

[daddy at the Happy Mexican]

Henry, I agree.

Any pilot would have loved to live in the earlier years of Aviation and especially during the amazing years of WW2 Aviation. Since I never was given the anti-gravitational devices I was promised in my youth, I am so glad to be stuck in time where I am, in regards to having amazing super powered machines to criss-cross the globe and getting well paid for the amazingly fun experience before the robot drivers take over. I just got out of 2 day Sim training 2 days ago and Techno-creep is insidious and continues to demand I comply with so many bullshit variables that in the not too distant future only robots will be able to comply with the assenting, irrelevant rugulations they keep heaping on us.

[Marlene]

MM @ 5:22...Howie Carr just mentioned that Geoff Diehl,the Republican who is running against the fake Indian,wonders if Sen. Warren will return Affleck's campaign donation.

[Threadkiller]

Usually you choose to leave when a poster gets too close over the target.

That is pretty rich coming from someone who says that no one ever leaves JOM.

#Duh

Give me one target that someone hovered over that resulted in me leaving.

[Davod]

"I don't know why terrorists wouldn't start wildfires."

This was included in the Al Qaeda training manual captured early on in Afghanistan.

[maryrose]

I meant you leave for the day.

[henry]

It ended up ok Jim. I could never get those sheet corners right. ;)

[RattlerGator]

Jim, Kurt Schlichter said replace the entire leadership. I agree. I can't begin to tell how shocking that story & the Rapone idiot is to me.

Schindler says things are no better at Annapolis.

Full stop. This has to be corrected immediately.

[Threadkiller]

No problem, Michael. In SoCal we had a recent wave of roadside fires. The Heroes took to the TV to inform us that all of the events were because of faulty catalytic converters.

Never mind that in the 40+ years of converters on cars roaming our freeways we have never seen anything like what they were claiming.

I ruled the coverup down to a few possibilities:

▪The fire chief's son is a pyro.

▪The new diesel particulate filter mandate wasn't ready for show time and the State forced soon to fail systems on us.

▪The mandated crap gas finally took its toll on an otherwise safe component.

Who knows?

[henry]

RG, I imagine Mattis has his hands full weeding out Obama's officer corps.

[jimmyk]

I don't know why terrorists wouldn't start wildfires.

They did last year in Israel.

[DebinGA]

LeTourneau U - programs offered TY, daddy.

[Threadkiller]

I meant you leave for the day.

You probably have an example. Let's see it.

Funny how the "don't pick on people who aren't here to defend themselves" rule of yours doesn't mean bubkis.

#Expected

While you are gathering supporting documentation, riddle me this, are people supposed to be here commenting 24/7?

Do you?

[henry]

Cheap made in China converters TK?

[Davod]

Glorified bus drivers reminds me of a Transport Union Strike for more pay many years ago in Victoria, Australia.

Fro train drivers their starting point was the salary of a Qantas Jumbo pilot, because they ferried the same, if not more passengers. For bus drivers the claim was for the lowered to that of pilot's salary of the equivalent passenger sized aircraft.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

RG,

Heard on the news that they have relieved both officers on the McCain (ship which had the accident) of command and they will be leaving the Navy.

It's a shame that the incompetence didn't show up sooner to save the lives of those sailors.

[Catsmeat]

The thing is, daddy, is that for a bunch of us it's never really feels SAFE to fly--I always say the Lord's Prayer as we lift, and try to count the babies and toddlers and dogs onboard in a completely panicked attempt to bargain God into not slaughtering innocents (so that I myself would have a collateral benefit). I know God isn't fooled, but he works in mysterious ways.

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

I put the USS Franklin Battle of 19 Mar 1945 up on the last thread. It details one of the most heroic actions to save a US warship ever. Also some US MIA INFO. Last article on the thread. Well worth reading, IMO.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Catsmeat,

I only got over my fear of flying very late in life. I have no idea why, because for years I only flew when I absolutely had to and then would flinch at every bump or noise and spet my time looking out the window for oncoming planes which were dangers for collision.

I really do sympathize. Maybe you will get healed of the phobia like I was, because it's a real burden.

[jimmyk]

for a bunch of us it's never really feels SAFE to fly

I was kind of that way, though not so nervous, but our cousin getting seriously injured in that Amtrak accident a couple of years ago finally drove home to me that flying is one of the safest things I do, transportation-wise. The taxis to and from the airport are the more dangerous part of the trip, and of course trains derail. Now I don't really think twice about it.

[JimNorCal]

re: the McCain. Yes, both Jesse and Alfredo Sanchez are gone.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/10/11/navy-sacks-uss-mccain-leaders-after-preventable-deadly-collisi.html

[Catsmeat]

I think you guys are just braver. To be fair to me, I am in fact brave about some things, for instance about speaking in front of loads of people: do it often and with relish. And I'm good while the flight lasts--I know there's not much which could happen then. But I am always quite relieved when the wheels touch down.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 48m48 minutes ago

I will be interviewed tonight on @FoxNews by @SeanHannity at 9pmE. Enjoy!

[Threadkiller]

Cheap made in China converters TK?

Probably whatever is on the POS cars they let drive over here from Mexico.

They would cover that up as well. ;-)

I car really has to be running like crap to spit out a converter. When it does, most of the pieces end up in the muffler. The broken up "brick" dissipates the heat fairly rapidly and it won't be acting as a catalyst so much once it is no longer parallel to the exhaust stream.

Once it is in a 300 degree muffler, it will cool to that temp, what ever makes it out of the pipe will drop even more.

Then, the cooled piece has to make it 50-100 feet off the side of the road to start the fire.

No way. There isn't enough velocity to send the piece that far. It would make there if other cars' tires kicked it around enough, I guess. But it would be cooling more and more while that was happening.

Could it happen? Maybe. 10 times in 3 weeks during a media blitz that we are in brush fire red flag warning time? Not likely.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Annamarie Tendler‏Verified account @amtendler 2h2 hours ago

I would also love to get an apology from Ben Affleck who grabbed my ass at a Golden Globes party in 2014.

[daddy at the Happy Mexican]

Just want to make a point that needs to be reiterated---All this gnarly angst and sin these starlets in Hollywood were having to be confronted with day in and day out---none of it came from Conservatives. Not a single 'effing bit of it! Everybody who made your life sheer Hell was Liberals. period.

Everybody. Everyone. Every bit of it.

Every evil choice you had to deal with was forced on you by a Liberal. Every single choice.

Welcome to reality. Now do us the great favor of growing up and acknowledging reality.

Our children desperately need to be less stupid and less naive than you pontificating morons, and now that you "role models" know something about reality and briefly are no longer are cowed by Lefty peer pressure to hide it, (at least for a couple of weeks) how about you actually stand up and act like the role models your nepotism or your beauty has given to you?) How about you finally "Speak Truth To Power" for the first time in your life, instead of repeating that stupid mantra on camera for MSM kudos about some imaginary Right wing malignancy that doesn't exist, while the malignant bastards of the Left are actually grabbing you by the pussies and dragging you into shower stalls to have you help them whack off.

[Clarice Feldman]

Good grief--http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4971192/FBI-Harvey-Weinstein-probe-ordered-Trump-Justice-Dept.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

[RattlerGator]

But the academies, especially West Point and Annapolis, have their own histories and traditions that should not have allowed this to happen.

That it *has* happened suggests the problem goes far, far beyond Obama's tenure. I mean, am I to believe this laxity just -- poof! -- all of a sudden occurred in 2009-10?

No. And Lieutenant Colonel Robert M. Heffington verifies this in his letter:

[D]uring my time on the West Point faculty (2006-2009 and again from 2013-2017), I personally witnessed a series of fundamental changes at West Point that have eroded it to the point where I question whether the institution should even remain open.

That's incredibly strong language. Later, he gave a clear example of the very serious MODERN problem:

It seems that the Academy’s senior leaders are intimidated by cadets. During my first tour on the faculty (I was a CPT at the time), I noticed that 4th class cadets were going on leave in civilian clothes when the regulation clearly stated they were supposed to be wearing a uniform. During a discussion about cadet standards between the BTO and the Dept. of History faculty, I asked why plebes were going on leave in civilian clothes. His answer astonished me: “That rule is too hard to enforce.” Yet West Point had no problem enforcing that rule on me in the mid-1990s. I found it impossible to believe that the several hundred field grade officers stationed at West Point could not make teenagers wear the uniform. This anecdote highlights the fact that West Point’s senior leaders lack not the ability but the motivation to enforce their will upon the Corps of Cadets.

This is completely upside down and absolutely intolerable

I wonder if this has something to do with the very modern corruption of our political class, and these are the folks -- politicians -- recommending so many of the students.

It could be we need to totally review and revamp how these academies seek out, interview, and admit students. But, standards must be maintained and enforced.

These academies have been heavy into engineering, and fields of study may need to be diversified (hell, such may have already happened for all I know).

But this has to be fixed. Right now.

[Threadkiller]

Did maryrose leave?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Clarice,

Why
Good grief?"

As far as I am concerned, if Weinstein used corporate funds to pay off victims and then claimed it as a business expense, the DOJ should investigate.

If the DOJ can investigate harassment claims at corporations and universities, why not Hollywood?

Turnabout is fair play, as far as I am concerned.

[clara]

MM, I think the Clarice's Good Grief is about all the other things the DOJ should be investigating and are not.

[JimNorCal]

CarsMeat: “I'm good while the flight lasts--I know there's not much which could happen then. But I am always quite relieved when the wheels touch down.”

I used to fear flying. Held the plane up with the sheer force of my tensed stomach muscles. :) But now I am the reverse of you. We’re both OK in flight but I retain nervousness about landings. And I live for takeoffs! Love the power and rumble of big growling engines. So exhilarating.

[JimNorCal]

Sigh. *CatsMeat*

[JimNorCal]

I find RGs moral clarity reassuring.

[henry]

RG, that is interesting. I wonder if a long and unpopular war plays in, plus social change forced through. The 70s honor code scandal followed a long war, introduction of coeducation to the academy, and a bad economy where people went for a free degree, not a career. My grandfather checked (as only generals can) and concluded that combination eroded morale, then discipline collapsed. He further concluded that the restoration of discipline would lead the cadets to drive out "careerists" especially those with family traditions at the academy. Sounds similar now. Needs a new superintendent in command, and repeal of Obama's social experimentation (eg cut the transgender crap). Then a crackdown.

[Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma]

http://artsatl.com/devon-allman-talks-grief-memories-late-fathers-southern-blood/

A really excellent article from a HS friend of mine.

[narciso]

Like Dr. Strangelove they can't help it:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/11/nbc-claims-stephen-paddock-warned-maintenance-worker-to-take-cover-he-didnt/

[narciso]

Not crazy assumptions:

http://anncoulter.com/columns/2017-10-11.html#read_more

[Buckeye]

I saw a converter start a fire once. Guy in the building next to my office in ~ 1977 had some crappy Ford when cars were just being fit with cats.

He had been bitching about how poorly it ran. One summer day, when the parking lot was crowded he parked over some tall dry grass and went to work.

15 minutes his car was engulfed in flames. Total crispy Crown Vic.

[Catsmeat]

Look, if I could fix it, I would. My dad was in the AF (just listening to Russians from Turkey) and did himself fly little things, but heights scare me.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Narciso,

Coulter and Sundance both smell a rat in what we are being told.

News on Fox just now:

Autopsy shows no brain abnormality for Paddock.

Brother and girlfriend are on watch list and are not cleared of wrong-doing.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Catsmeat,

I am afraid of heights, too. I have no suggestions for you except to wait.

For no apparent reason my fear suddenly left me when I was in my late 50's. I don't know why.

Maybe the same thing will happen to you.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Steph - The Fair was so much fun!!! Everybody had a great time. I was a good girl and just had a smoked turkey leg. The grandkids all raved about the corndogs. The ice cream was also very popular with the kiddos. We were there for 6 hours so my hubby and I have spent most of today recuperating. So glad we got to go though.

One interesting thing was a "band" that performed there using gargage can lids and big emply water containers as their instruments. Found out they were supported by the State Dept. to go around the world pushing their "save the earth" campaign. I tried to learn more but my hubby said it would be a waste of time so we moved on.

If you ever get a chance to go I highly recommend it. We will definitely go again next year.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 19m19 minutes ago

We need a tax system that is FAIR to working families & that encourages companies to STAY in America, GROW in America, and HIRE in America 🇺🇸

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL5N9AEVoAA8tiD.jpg

(Picture at link.)

[narciso]

Well I'm not breAking out the tinfoil, but the evidence has been sketchy at best. Add to that the management of this particular establishment who seems to have been negligent.

[Threadkiller]

He had been bitching about how poorly it ran. One summer day, when the parking lot was crowded he parked over some tall dry grass and went to work

The tall grass warning has been around since the beginning. Every owner's manual mentions it, though nobody reads it.

A functional converter will climb over 800 degrees on the converter shell easily.

If the fire heroes said that the car ran off the road into a 3 year old pile of tumbleweeds, I would be less suspicious.

On your friends POS, if it was dumping fuel by misfiring, 1500 degrees isn't out of question.

[DrJ]

Your (almost!) daily Wretchard:

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/10/11/behind-kims-back/

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/11/weinsteins-response-to-his-wife-leaving-him-may-surprise-some-people/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

Not me. I am not a bit surprised.

He's trying to make everyone feel sorry for him.

Nope.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Project Veritas‏Verified account @Project_Veritas

NEW #AmericanPravda shows @nytimes editor saying his Silicon Valley friends help him push NYT content...
FULL video: https://youtu.be/r0c1Bph1jrQ

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

TMZ says that Weinstein has NOT left the country.

[daddy]

Cats meat,

I understand the fear of flying syndrome as it is natural in part to humans, and we are divorced in general from how planes fly so naturally humans are leery.

I note than when I read in England during Darwin times about the early speed of trains the folks in England comment in their diaries on how both terrifying and exhilarating it was to be smoking along at the astonishing clip of 30 or even 40 miles an hour!

If we all had the occasion to take private Pilots licenses, tho many would still remain terrified due to their personal nature, millions would realize "Oh, so this is all there is to it? Well hell, anybody can do this. Why the heck I was afraid of this beats me, now that I see how easy it is to do."

It strikes me as as no more complex than the simplistic societal assumption voiced by Talking Barbie a few years back with her latest version that said: "Gee, math is hard!"

At least in the old days we built generations of teenagers who wanted to drive. Now we have built generations where no kid knows squat about cars and want somebody else to drive them everywhere.

To me it is an intentional regression from personal reliability and confidence towards a shared ignorance and acquiescent groupthink. I can't figure out why we capitulate to it, and a great regret of my life as a dad was being unable to get the girls interested in getting their Private Pilots license. But oh well, you can lead a kid to the Flight Line but you can't make them rotate:(

Clarice,

I'll chip into the Wolverines Flight lesson fund should you be able to coerce her to get behind a stick and throttle:)

[DebinGA]

How could NBC misquote the maintenance guy seen being interviewed by/on NBC? Seriously, how does that happen?

[daddy]

Guys, Is the Yankee game on now? I can't find it in the Hotel.

[henry]

AP now trying to tie Bannon (& thus Trump) to Harvey Weinstein. Meanwhile Harvey's daughter says he is suicidal, drunk, and loose in LA.

[Dave (in MA)]

FS1, daddy

[DebinGA]

Civil Air Patrol is another way for kids 12-22 to learn about flying. When daddy earlier noted the severe pilot shortage, I looked for a CAP unit near us for Grand1, but none were within an hr's drive. Y'all might have better luck though.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Lydia Polgreen‏Verified account @lpolgreen

SCOOP: NBC had the NYPD audio, women on camera talking about Weinstein’s abuse. For MONTHS.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nbc-harvey-weinstein-investigation_us_59dd2739e4b04fc4e1e96d08

[sbw]

Um. New Thread. Yankees. Hoping.

[Dave (in MA)]

Rooting for Tito.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Letourneau I think daddy.
Guy invented a gigantic fork lift and log loader and made a mint.
Christian guy and he started a Christian college heavy on engineering.

[maryrose]

TM:
What a game!
Let the best team win.