Cheap, Irresponsible Bonus Speculation, or, Get Your Schadenfreude Early

The NY Times has been pounding the table on Weinstein and related stories of sexual harassment. What is the chance that back in the 80's and 90's, or even later, the Times newsroom didn't have a, well, awkward Hollywood dynamic with older, established men of power and rising young ingenues looking for a break?

If Mark Halperin can be plausibly accused of sexual harassment can the Times really be squeaky clean? Or do they see themselves making a virtue of necessity with this current crusade?

ERRATA: This 2011 New Yorker piece about the rise of editor Jill Abramson includes a few straws in the wind about harassment. Slate covered her 2014 exit, with more straws:

Of course, Abramson’s short tenure atop the Times did not usher in a new gender-equitable utopia at the paper. “I have worked many places, but nowhere more sexist than the New York Times,” one young female staffer told me. (“We don’t have a great culture of female solidarity at the Times,” is how another put it.) “There’s still very much an Old Boys’ Club atmosphere here. It’s hard to pinpoint—it’s that uncomfortable kind of sexism you don’t know what to do with.” The staffer didn’t blame Abramson for that environment, but said she felt that her perch at the top was sometimes invoked by others to elide the Times’ more diffuse woman problem. “It’s nice to pretend that we’re past gender,” the staffer told me, “but we’re not.” 

Any day now...

 

Comments

[anon ( AKA common man )]

First

[Appalled]

I am concerned that the parade of revelations, which conflate the severity of the actions, will end up trivializing what's going on here. I mean, we have been treated to Poppy Bush -- sexual assailant -- for Pete's sake. And all this smoke will cover up more serious things done by the politically connected.

Current feminism often doesn't distinguish between rape and mildly naughty old men in a wheelchair. Which means practically, that powerful men of the right sort get to hide behind the noise created by those whose fame is enough in eclipse that they can be sacrificed.

[henry]

Axelrod doesn't want us to have 401ks.

[henry]

Also, Halperin's actions are sexual assault. Harassment is different.

[henry]

Plus at this rate, the feminazis will not stop until every man who ever held a supervisory position is under attack from a bevy of anonymous claims. This is pushing the college "rape court" abuse to EEO and DoL in general.

[Porchlight]

I agree about the silliness of current feminism, Appalled. I continue to believe that most of the "victims" were perfectly willing to go along with it if it could advance their career.

Trump detractors hate to admit he was right: power, fame, and money (or some attractive combination of the three) means "they let you." And many of them enjoy it. That's as true in a left-leaning newsroom as it is anywhere else.

It is so annoying to hear women who slept their way up the ladder later complain that their work wasn't appreciated on the merits.

[anonamom]

I'm thinking TM agrees w me re: Halperin---"If even"---
which would explain the ineptness of his "approach", would it not?? That, or being really, really geeky into his late 30s, I guess

And I do NOT want to read one more word from any woman unless she has the cajones to be named.
None of the five complaining about Halperin did.

[Captain Hate]

It's impossible to hate Poppy Bush more than I do but comparing what he's been accused of by some bint tool to Slick or Weinstein's behavior is as clueless as everything else the MFM does.

Halperin has been suspended btw; what will the Morning Homewreckers do?

[anon ( AKA common man )]

powerful men of the right sort get to hide

Hate to pop your bubble there sport, but at least so far, its all been powerful men of the left.

Old man Bush pinching some tart's butt, may well be distasteful, crass and even disgusting. But a feeble old man in a wheelchair is hardly menacing and not sexual assault under any reasonable definition.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/923523462924324864

Justice Department settled with groups improperly targeted by IRS. Statement in screen cap at link.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Lindsey Graham is appearing as a character witness for Menendez at the trial today.

Just heard it on Fox.

[Ralph L]

We've had men who get off on humiliating women in private, now we have women who get off on shaming men in public.

I think that woman naming Bush at his age is worse than him groping her. She had her chance at the time.

[henry]

Meanwhile, Dick Durbin is worried over his voting block. He pockets $2.3 billion a year based on 42,000 illegales in IL. Or something.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Three retweets featuring Hannity.

1. Fox ratings up due to Hannity
2. Hannity's movie debuting Friday
3. Another BOOM-Tick-tock tweet by Hannity.

[Buckeye]

From the last thread:

After about 20 minutes of waiting for some "balance", Bret says "more on this in the Roundtable" but by then I was already clicking on my car shows.

OL, does this mean we will need a subscription to R&T, C&D and Autoweek for The Ledge?

Kinda like the barber shop?

[GUS]

Ralph, don't worry, G.H.W.Bush will just..."hide behind the noise". eclipse, practically pfffffffffft.

Wearing your clown shoes today???

[GUS]

Good morning Ralph.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/26/doj-settles-with-tea-party-groups-on-lois-lerner-irs-scandal/

[Buckeye]

Old man Bush pinching some tart's butt, may well be distasteful, crass and even disgusting. But a feeble old man in a wheelchair is hardly menacing and not sexual assault under any reasonable definition.

He had to take up a new "sport" since he is now to feeble to jump out of airplanes.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Old man Bush pinching some tart's butt, may well be distasteful, crass and even disgusting. --

Yeah, I mean, the dude's not even Italian.
I was gonna say "where does he get off" but in the age Weinstein and potted plants that phrase has a new and thoroughly revoltin connotation.

[anon ( AKA common man )]

Another incumbent Democrat Senator in a Trump state polling way below 50%. This time its my state! Senator Nelson shows up as tied ( and trending downward from the last poll done by same group ). Its a decent sized sample but only registered voters which will tend to pump up Nelson a little.

At this rate he may not even run. Scott has not even announced his candidacy and he is already tied in a RV match up. Might be time for Nelson to spend more time with his family...

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article180923056.html

[Threadkiller]

I wonder if Billy Bush made a secret audio tape of his uncle describing how chicks let you grab 'em by the ass once you are famous.

[Momto2]

Out of touch Time mag. thinks this cover will be appalling...

when actually the voters are cheering!!!

[Appalled]

Anon:

I suspect there are other Harvey Weinsteins in Hollywood who are "open secrets". I doubt they are conservatives, somehow. It's people like that who are going to benefit from the noise about media people, and the garbage about Poppy Bush, which should never have been published.

[Old Lurker]

"Kinda like the barber shop?"

Funny, Buckeye. You guys out in the boonies don't realize that here in DC, "Barbershops" are now unisex beauty salons. When I got my end of summer cut last week, I had to complain to my long time barber (recently relocated to one of these places) that he needs to ask for at least ONE non babe magazine for me to read. Have you SEEN what women read at those places?

Plus the music sucks too.

Plus Mrs. OL warned me that you have to TIP the cutter and the hair washer too? Huh? That's like tipping the counter guy when you pickup carryout food, right?

Finally, getting your hair cut in a room filled with wymen having their's cut...have you HEARD what they talk about?!

[anon ( AKA common man )]

Well then why did you type powerful men of the Right get to hide, if you meant Left?

Support your statement or retract.

[Appalled]

anon:

"powerful men of the right sort" is what I said -- which isn't the same as "powerful men of the right".

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

The good thing about all of the Hollywood lawsuits is that it diverts money into legal fees rather than campaign donations to the democrats.

[Buckeye]

OL, you clearly need a better place to Winter than DC.

My barber shop doesn't discriminate. Occasionally we have a woman getting a cut.

That is when all the locker room talk subsides.

But as soon as she walks out the door, back to normal.

[Old Lurker]

Hope Billy Bush doesn't get his cut there, Buckeye.

[anon ( AKA common man )]

OK I read it as "sorta" as in a modifier of hide to wit: hiding in plain sight.

Carry on. Its a rare day when we agree on more than the time of day. This appears to be one of those days. Buy a lottery ticket as the moon and stars are all in perfect alignment apparently.

[JimNorCal]

All this talk about sex harassment by wheel chair bound man .. is this former Pres Bush we're talking about or Sen Warren?

http://www.wrko.com/articles/columns/kuhners-corner-elizabeth-warren-lied-about-being-sexually-harassed

[henry]

Sen Warren sexually harassed a wheelchair bound man?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--OK I read it as "sorta" as in a modifier of hide to wit: hiding in plain sight.--

Likewise.

[JimNorCal]

PL starts the flood of CNN parodies.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/10/this-is-cnn-on-drugs.php

[Captain Hate]

When are Warren's constituents going to admit she's a serial liar, and not even a particularly good one?

[Man Tran]

Aah, small towns. My barber cuts in a converted back bedroom. Her hubby races hydroplanes. The three little yappy dogs act as doorbells. $22 and no tipping.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

My personal opinion on Bush 41 is that he is getting senile. When I read his letters book quite some time ago I noticed a certain lack of "elevatedness" when he was discussing women. Perhaps age has removed some inhibitions (either that or his medication).

I also noticed reading Barbara Bush's book a tendency to emphasize what cute figures other women had.

Both of these struck me as odd but then, I am not a graduate of an Ivy League school, so I figured it was something I just didn't get.

Now, I wonder.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Man Tran,

There are pockets like that here in Indy, too. My beautician works from a converted garage which is fancied up. Her husband is a plumber. $15 for a cut and blow dry, but since she's a beautician, I tip, so it's usually $20.

[Clarice Feldman]

A must read:https://www.wsj.com/articles/democrats-russians-and-the-fbi-1508971759?mod=djemMER

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 28m28 minutes ago

Ed Gillespie will turn the really bad Virginia economy #'s around, and fast. Strong on crime, he might even save our great statues/heritage!
======================
GOPe might not like this tack, but President Trump instinctively knows how the electorate thinks. Go, Gillespie!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Ed Gillespie will be a great Governor of Virginia. His opponent doesn't even show up to meetings/work, and will be VERY weak on crime!

[JimNorCal]

henry: "Sen Warren sexually harassed a wheelchair bound man?"

Much much worse than that.
Told colleagues it was uproarious fun.
She made a special trip to the guy's funeral. Praised him.
Now that he's been dead a while and now that it's politically convenient she badmouths him.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6m6 minutes ago

Do not underestimate the UNITY within the Republican Party!

[maryrose]

My son goes to Sean the Irish barber.
15.00 dollars and he does sideburns as well.

[Jim Eagle]

Aren't these women coming forth now about "sexual harrassment" the same breed and ilk of lefties that pooh-poohed Pence never being alone with another woman other than his wife?

OL, my barber shop is also a lounge. Has a little bar set up. Chilean immigrant (legal) with a couple of other barbers. One is gal who has gone the full Monty on Tats, nose rings and stretched ear lobes. But for $25 I get a hair cut and beard trim. Place is always packed and the usual wait is 45 minutes. They have 4 TV's and sports is always on.

If you feel like it, you can make a scotch and soda for an extra $5 while your waiting. Thinking about franchising it for the Ledge if we ever need it.

[JimNorCal]

GUS, are you back from watching the fish not bite?
Is it accurate to say that northern 'Sconsin is a gussied-up version of Michigan's Upper Peninsula? The UP is not as genteel and prosperous but hard to beat the natural beauty.

[Captain Hate]

Now that he's been dead a while and now that it's politically convenient she badmouths him.

I think it's something even worse. It's a weird form of self aggrandizing not unrelated to what those creeps Harkin and Blumenthal did about their Vietnam service. It shows, I believe, a strange character flaw that is extremely distasteful.

[maryrose]

JimNorCal:
That Lemon ad is hysterical!
What a bunch of dopes at CNN.

[Appalled]

Hm--

sounds like when I use "right" as a synonym for "proper", I should just use "proper".

OK -- The customer is always right. Well, except for DuDa...

[narciso]

Some how Epsteins link about the trust doesn't attach.

[Clarice Feldman]

https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/need-investigation-entire-justice-department-now/

CH, it's worked for warren so far.Sorry to say.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Thomas Wictor‏ @ThomasWictor 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @HillaryClinton

If only your parents had taught you this word: hubris.

In the coming months, remember that you brought it all down on your own head.
==============================

You know, if they had retired after Bill's term and run some sort of liberal charity, made guest appearances at parties and golf outings, etc. everyone would have forgotten about them as just an unpleasant interlude from which we would have learned to be more careful in looking at candidates' past histories.

But Hillary couldn't let go of power, so she ran for Senator (benefiting from the death of JFK, Jr.) and then ran for president, settling for SoS the first time as a way to build her war chest for 2016.

She did bring this all on herself, and I have zero pity, because had she won, she would have destroyed Trump and would have ended up ruining this country beyond repair.

[JohnH]

Gosh I haven’t paid for a haircut since 97. Cut my own. Wife wasn’t happy at the beginning but her hairdresser friend told her I did a good job. Along the way I have upgraded from scissors to electric clippers. Now she only gives me grief if I use the #3 vs the #5 attachment.

[Clarice Feldman]

https://audioboom.com/posts/6430268-wmal-interview-victoria-toensing-10-26-17?t=0

audio of interview with Toesing on mystery witness

[maryrose]

CH:
It is like those false memory made up claims about sexual abuse.
She really believes it which makes it creepy.
Hillary has the same disorder.
She calmly states that Uranium deal is debunked and then says I am a frequent target of Republicans.
It is said calmly and with a straight face in her typical congenital liar mode.

[Old Lurker]

You crashed the WMAL site, C.

[Captain Hate]

But Hillary couldn't let go of power, so she ran for Senator (benefiting from the death of JFK, Jr.) and then ran for president, settling for SoS the first time as a way to build her war chest for 2016.

She did bring this all on herself, and I have zero pity, because had she won, she would have destroyed Trump and would have ended up ruining this country beyond repair.

She's a greedy and grasping shrew who never gave a tinker's damn about anyone else but her pervert husband; and isn't very good at disguising it. She deserves no sympathy from anyone about anything.

[Gentlejim]

I'm with JohnH. I bought a Wahl clipper set and do my own. I'm a cheap bastard. :)

[JimNorCal]

TBH, though, if MA voters will repeatedly re-elect a murderer for Senate, seems little chance they'll reject a mere sociopathic liar.

[maryrose]

CH and Thomas Wictor share the honor of post of the day.
Hubris is a word that Hillary will learn the hard way.
Her college gig might be revoked as well.
She is a venal and crass woman.
I think President Trump was willing to give her break but she burned all bridges with her nasty untrue attacks and sad sack poor loser attitude.

[Threadkiller]

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[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I love it when Warren talks about income inequality or the high cost of college.

The fact that she collected over $300,000 for teaching ONE class at Harvard apparently doesn't register with her as hypocrisy of the highest order.

[narciso]

Even back then they werent reading the source documents, they already had their narrative ready;

https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/oct/20/angleton-monster-plot/

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Budget has passed the House.

[Captain Hate]

maryrose, I don't think Warren believes it so much as she believes she won't have her lies pointed out.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

John Roberts of Fox reports that it was President Trump himself who issued the lifting of the gag order.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 31s31 seconds ago

Big news - Budget just passed!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Vote on budget was 216-212. 20 GOP reps voted no.

I would like to know their reasoning on this.

[Old Lurker]

This one is interesting but not for the reason they report.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/social-security-administration-spending-tops-1-trillion-first-time

The big stories, but you have to download the 75 page report linked at the end of the story then read until your eyes glaze, are:

1. They missed the projected payout previously projected by gazillions.

2. While SS paid out more than $1T as reported, it did not occur to anyone that the fact that only $869B was received from workers meant that the gap had to be covered by the US Treasury. Those pesky IOU thingies in the cookie jar can bite you in the butt when they have to be cashed in.

[Buckeye]

She did bring this all on herself, and I have zero pity, because had she won, she would have destroyed Trump and would have ended up ruining this country beyond repair.

You are being far to kind MM.

1) Not only does she not deserve pity, she deserves a brick wall and a blindfold.

2) Destroying Trump is neither here nor there as far as I am concerned, its the fact that she would be able to target anyone who became an enemy.

3) Her Uranium deal may prove to already be our undoing, and she didn't even need the Presidency to do that.

[Threadkiller]

Tom McClintock:

"Senate Amendments to the Budget
October 26, 2017 Speeches
Senate Amendments to the Budget

Mr. Speaker:

Unsustainable government spending drives both taxes and debt.

The budget resolution sets the spending architecture for the fiscal year. The House version provided for $200 billion of enforceable mandatory spending reductions over ten years and balanced within the decade.

The Senate amendments gut these provisions, squandering the one opportunity Congress has each year to bring mandatory spending under control -- taking us another year closer to a sovereign debt crisis. This is tragic and I condemn it in the strongest terms.

The Senate has retained just one key provision from the House budget. It makes tax reform possible this year. Tax reform is essential to economic growth, and economic growth is essential to confront our debt.

Many are alarmed that it provides for $1.5 trillion of additional debt – but this is solely due to the Senate’s rules that require tax cuts to be scored ONLY as revenue losses without taking into account economic expansion.

During the Obama years, our economy grew at an average of 1 1/2 percent annually – about half the average rate since World War II. Reagan averaged 3 1/2 percent. Reagan did this by reducing the tax burdens that were crushing our economy. He slashed the top income tax rate from 70 percent to 28 percent --- and income tax receipts nearly doubled because of the economic expansion he unleashed.

Taxes driven by spending are the greatest threat to our economy today and debt driven by spending is the greatest threat to our future. Controlling spending is currently impossible in the Senate. So, it’s obvious that we can’t balance the budget and reduce our debt without significantly increasing economic growth; we can’t increase economic growth without tax relief; and we can’t get tax relief without the provisions in the Senate budget.

Arthur Laffer, architect of the Reagan tax policy, forecasts that the corporate tax reform alone will increase GDP growth at a rate that should generate a temporary bump of 5 percent, settling down to an average of 2.6 percent over the decade. This alone will add $5 trillion to the American economy and directly increase revenues to all levels of government between 1.8 and two trillion dollars.

We tried a static approach to tax policy during the Obama years. The economy stagnated and the debt doubled.

I remember what it was like in the Reagan era. Wages were rising, opportunities for better jobs were everywhere, there was a sense of optimism that comes with prosperity and abundance. When we abandoned these policies, we lost that prosperity to a decade of despair. I want my kids to know what that sense of relief and optimism was like – what it feels like when morning dawns again in the America economy. This resolution starts that transformation."

I'm checking for his vote now.

[Captain Hate]

Vote on budget was 216-212. 20 GOP reps voted no.

I would like to know their reasoning on this.

Probably too much pork although we'll have to examine the particular votes. It's a good first step to have a budget to get spending in line but that doesn't mean this is an optimal first step.

[Threadkiller]

McClintock voted "yea."

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll589.xml

[anon ( AKA common man )]

Yes the modest cuts in the House version had to go away to reconcile with the Senate porky version. In order to get 51 votes in Senate they had to spend like drunken Democrats. I actually expected the budget to begin to balance now that no Democrats are in charge. Silly me.

[Davod]

"Now she only gives me grief if I use the #3 vs the #5 attachment."

My barber uses three if you want to keep your hair long.

[Old Lurker]

Cap'n, it IS a good step, but it ain't a "Budget-Budget" for the reasons I have posted before (thoughtful allocation of scarce resources among competing priorities).

[Jim Eagle]

OL,

I wonder how Chile's privatized, invested SS program is doing these days?

[JimNorCal]

Agree CH 11:16am 100%.
Budget is awful, but a big step forward to have a budget ... baby steps ...

[Thomas Collins]

Johnnie, we hardly knew ye.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-26/white-house-names-treasury-s-david-kautter-as-interim-irs-head

[Thomas Collins]

Johnnie, we hardly knew ye.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-26/white-house-names-treasury-s-david-kautter-as-interim-irs-head

[maryrose]

One step closer to tax reform.
Thank God we have extra seats to get our bills across the finish line.
Another victory for Paul Ryan.

[Thomas Collins]

Johnnie, we hardly knew ye.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-26/white-house-names-treasury-s-david-kautter-as-interim-irs-head

[Jim Eagle]

Joe Girardi not coming back to the Yanks. He did more with less than anyone thouaght he could do but he also had some boneheaded decisions.

[Captain Hate]

Really, anon, we still have a ways to go before the "liar's party" describes only one.

[anon ( AKA common man )]

My rep, Gaetz voted NO. He actually gets no demerit from me on that stance.

[Thomas Collins]

216-212 sounds close, but I suspect several of the GOP no critters had permission to vote no, and will be on board for the final tax bill.

[maryrose]

So another 17 days of Kostinen.
I bet he was thrilled about the IRS/conservative groups settlement because it gets him off the hot seat for destroying those subpoenaed e-mails.
Good bye and good riddance.

[Jim Eagle]

I would think major defecit hawks are the no votes.

[jimmyk on iPhone]

"Scott has not even announced his candidacy"

Scott is a complete RINO, though, isn't he? Any chance a better candidate comes along?

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

Link at 10:23. Thanks JimNorCal

I think the writer has figured out the truth about Sen warren.

"Warren may be the most depraved, cynical and mendacious member of Congress—and that’s saying something. Think about it: She is willing to smear the memory of a dead, disabled friend in order to win votes and prop up her feminist image. There is almost nothing lower.

Yet, it is no surprise. Warren is an incorrigible liar. She has lied about almost everything—her Native American ancestry, her humble socio-economic background, her history as a house flipper, her lucrative work shilling for the big banks, Wall Street and large insurance companies, her vast wealth, her mansion in Cambridge, and her use of the Senate seat to plug her books and line her pockets. Hence, it’s only natural for her to cry sexual harassment and play the victim card, even though it never happened."

[Captain Hate]

I don't know how anyone could have gotten the Yankees further than Girardi did. I don't follow them day to day so maybe I'm missing something that wasn't evident in a short series.

[anon ( AKA common man )]

Scott is not Charlie Cheeto if that is what you mean. And he is term limited in the Governorship. Its unlikely that anyone comes along and throws their hat in the ring unless Scott makes it clear he will not run. All the scuttlebutt is he will.

He did a great job during a Hurricane that did a hell of a lot of damage in the State and the polls reflect that people noticed.

He probably is not Mike Lee, but let me tell you Senator Nelson is very liberal. Taking him out is a big plus. I would be ecstatic.

[narcisoyea]

Yrs, latvala? Who really want going anywhere anyways really tupoleved himself then and there.

[Buckeye]

So Kostinen will be gone on Nov 12.

Wonder if Mitch Rapp is busy on the 13th??

[maryrose]

Governor Scott would be the strongest candidate for a Senate seat in Florida.
I think we can win this one because of Nelson's age.

[Captain Hate]

Isn't Scott's major negative how he caved in the Saint Traytable adventure, which ultimately resulted in no miscarriage of justice other than a lot of money being spent that didn't have to be by telling the race hustlers to fuck off and we'll follow procedures in place for local crimes?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Byron York‏Verified account @ByronYork 3m3 minutes ago

Ryan on reports he will put DACA legalization in must-pass bill: 'I was leaked incorrectly…selective, incorrect leaks.'
=========
Other reports on Twitter say DACA is not in the bill.

[anon ( AKA common man )]

The Tell is polling well below 50% as an incumbent. Incumbent can lose polling slightly above 50% to a quality candidate with a superbly run campaign. But its very hard for an incumbent to win if they are significantly below 50%, as the incumbent is well known and thus if people are saying no, they rarely change it to Lets give him another six years.

[Sue]

The "dirty" joke GHW Bush told? His favorite magician is David Cop A Feel. ::eyeroll:: Holy guacamole. Lock his ass up along with his wheelchair. Obviously he's a dirty old man.