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My guess is there is a large overlap between the demographic that doesn't like the NFL anthem protests and the NBA fans who won't like this from the normally tight-lipped Spurs coach Gregg Popovich. 'Pops' is reacting to Trump's latest about not calling the families of the four Green Berets killed in Niger:

“This man in the Oval Office is a soulless coward who thinks that he can only become large by belittling others. This has of course been a common practice of his, but to do it in this manner—and to lie about how previous presidents responded to the deaths of soldiers—is as low as it gets. We have a pathological liar in the White House, unfit intellectually, emotionally, and psychologically to hold this office, and the whole world knows it, especially those around him every day. The people who work with this president should be ashamed, because they know better than anyone just how unfit he is, and yet they choose to do nothing about it. This is their shame most of all.”

OK, ouch. Popovich is a brilliant coach and master motivator and what his team did to the defending champion Miami Heat in 2014 was incredible. But I don't think this will win more fans than it loses.

Comments

[Buckeye]

1st

[Jim Eagle]

Secundo!

[Jim Eagle]

But why does Trump go there when the facts are public and he himself hasn't contacted the Niger KIA's families in 12 days? I don't understand his remarks and the timing. Strange.

[narcisoyea]

Following over from The last thread, this was the deal that nabbed small fry, because the key witness died and his computer was destroyed:
http://fcpa.stanford.edu/enforcement-action.html?id=583

Involved hall monitorrosenstein, and his current charges mueller and his deputy weissman, the one tasked with tracking g the Russian. Money trail.

[narcisoyea]

Very small fry, considering who was at the top of the organization.

http://rusletter.com/articles/the_fbi_picked_up_the_ura nium_trail

[narcisoyea]

This is whose computer they lost, at the bottom of the page:
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2003-07-06/business/0307050263_1_hazardous-cargo-aquila-uranium

He was a former south African diplomat, perhaps more.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Popovich has not been tight-lipped about Trump for quite some time.
Turned this Spurs fan who had been created by the class and professionalism of David Robinson and Tim Duncan into an femall NBA hater.

Steph Curry did the same to what Al Attles and Clifford Ray and Nate Thurmond had built with the Warriors.
Think about that for a minute: Steph Curry and Steve Kerr have proven themselves more repulsive than Rick Barry. Quite a feat.

[narcisoyea]

Ah, the late Mr. Fisk was as of 94, in charge of nuclear affairs at the foreign ministry, then he ended up the head of tli

[anon ( AKA common man )]

According to Breitbart, Sonoma County California is holding a 29 year old man on suspicion of arson in connection with the fires there. And ICE has issued a detainer to Sonoma County. Sonoma is a sanctuary city. Let see Trump flog them senseless on this one with everyone watching...

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Chelsea Clinton says something not idiotic and not hideous.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I must add The Iceman actually started my Spurs interest.

[anon ( AKA common man )]

George Gervin. The finger rolls were a thing of beauty. And Artis Gilmore.

You would not understand how big Artis was, unless you stood courtside ( like I was able to do on several occasions ) and see him towering. Maybe 7 foot 2 if my memory is not failing me.

[henry]

So the "Hillary got bribed and sold our uranium to Russia" is the "boom"?

[RattlerGator]

Artis Gilmore, Jacksonville University's finest basketball player ever. Memories, memories.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jack,

This may have some relevance to your question:

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/10/17/the-wapost-fact-checked-if-obama-actually-called-the-families-of-fallen-soldiers-but-theres-a-twist/

[anon ( AKA common man )]

Artis had a 'fro that had to add another 4 inches or so. And he was all muscle. Charging into the lane was not something you were going to do more than once...

[Porchlight]

So the "Hillary got bribed and sold our uranium to Russia" is the "boom"?

That fits with all the hints from Sara Carter, Gorka and others, so I'm guessing yes.

The news part is that the FBI had the info before the uranium deal went through in 2010.

[Porchlight]

This is the best account I've seen so far and I think one of the hinters said it would be in The Hill:

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

Rather than bring immediate charges in 2010, however, the Department of Justice (DOJ) continued investigating the matter for nearly four more years, essentially leaving the American public and Congress in the dark about Russian nuclear corruption on U.S. soil during a period when the Obama administration made two major decisions benefitting Putin’s commercial nuclear ambitions.

The first decision occurred in October 2010, when the State Department and government agencies on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States unanimously approved the partial sale of Canadian mining company Uranium One to the Russian nuclear giant Rosatom, giving Moscow control of more than 20 percent of America’s uranium supply.

When this sale was used by Trump on the campaign trail last year, Hillary Clinton’s spokesman said she was not involved in the committee review and noted the State Department official who handled it said she “never intervened ... on any [Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States] matter.”

Much more at the link.

[henry]

More of a fizzle. Documents what was known during the campaign. The Clinton cover team (Comey, McCabe, Mueller, Rosenstien) isn't new either.

Plus it says "Russia" in it, so Sessions will ignore it. Only surprise is McCain wasn't listed as a coconspirator.

[Dave (in MA)]

If, if, if, if, if, if there was a pathological liar in the White House and you liked your doctor, you could keep your doctor, okiedoke?

[anon ( AKA common man )]

Or Egg McMuffin.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I think the most interesting things about that story are that they had a mole inside the Russian firm and that the FBI had investigated it and informed SOMEONE before Obama signed the agreement to sell.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Epic [and dignified] crushing of some prog freak.

[henry]

still in fantasy land. Press thinks Hilligula is "shadow president" thus must be covered. SMH

[Porchlight]

No, when this came up during the campaign we didn't have this level of proof of what FBI had compiled.

The Obama administration and the Clintons defended their actions at the time, insisting there was no evidence that any Russians or donors engaged in wrongdoing and there was no national security reason for any member of the committee to oppose the Uranium One deal.

But FBI, Energy Department and court documents reviewed by The Hill show the FBI in fact had gathered substantial evidence well before the committee’s decision that Vadim Mikerin — the main Russian overseeing Putin’s nuclear expansion inside the United States — was engaged in wrongdoing starting in 2009.

I think Trump now has substantial grounds to fire McCabe and Rosenstein and tell Mueller to get lost. Of course, he could have done so before, but with Comey he waited until he had some hard info.

The investigation was ultimately supervised by then-U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general, and then-Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, now the deputy FBI director under Trump, Justice Department documents show.

Both men now play a key role in the current investigation into possible, but still unproven collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign during the 2016 election. McCabe is under congressional and Justice Department inspector general investigation in connection with money his wife’s Virginia state Senate campaign accepted in 2015 from now-Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe at a time when McAuliffe was reportedly under investigation by the FBI.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Hillary is truly stupid if she is conducting her international whine tour for free when Trump would be happy to pay her millions were she to threaten to stop.

[David, Internet Deplorable]

On economic news, the always excellent Sundance over at Conservative Treehouse has the latest discussion of the US Chamber of Commerce v. the Citizens of the United States in the NAFTA negotiations. So far, US CoC 0, US Citizens 1.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/17/nafta-update-likely-loggerheads-to-be-announced-at-300pm/#more-140008

David

[RattlerGator]

More of a fizzle. Documents what was known during the campaign. The Clinton cover team (Comey, McCabe, Mueller, Rosenstien) isn't new either.

Plus it says "Russia" in it, so Sessions will ignore it. Only surprise is McCain wasn't listed as a coconspirator.

Posted by: henry | October 17, 2017 at 10:48 AM

I think y'all are missing the boat.

Henry, here's an alternative take that says you may want to slow your roll. The news, Porchlight, is that Rod Rosenstein was the lead U.S. Attorney on the case. So he intimately knows for certain the politicization at the Department of Justice and how it was seriously wrong. Remember this: HE SUCCESSFULLY PROSECUTED THE CASE! The DOJ and Obama Administration most certainly did not listen to him and his prosecutors on the wisdom of the sale going forward.

Y'all might want to think about that a bit, along with why Rosenstein was selected, why he wrote that letter where he publicly prosecuted Comey, and why *he* is the supervising attorney for the Mueller investigation.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

The President has been hitting Radio Row this morning, so there are a lot of snippets popping up. Here is one:

Mark Knoller‏Verified account @markknoller 16m16 minutes ago

On @ChrisPlanteShow, asked about @SenJohnMcCain remarks last night, @POTUS warned "at some point, I fight back and it won’t be pretty."

[henry]

RG. Occam's Razor favors the simple explanation. The Clinton whitewash team is intact and continuing to whitewash. A weak plea bargain isn't a successful prosecution of Russian corruption of the government, complete with bribes to the Sec State. It fits with a team that gives immunity to all in the bathroom server caper. It fits with a team that hides all documents related to the Lynch/Slick Tarmac meeting. It fits with the obstruction on the unmasking inquiries. It fits with the team conspiring to set up Meuller for his coup (which the "shadow president" so desires).

Nothing honest in that group. Not an honest bone among them.

[Appalled]

Miss M:

I love it when Mr. Draft Deferment billionaire threatens to really insult the war hero with a terminal brain tumor. What's he trying to distract us from today?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Appalled,

A war hero only because we have been sold that story. I haven't bought it for some time.

Since I lived through the Vietnam era, there are plenty of people who didn't serve. Many got college deferments or had a high draft numbers. Others didn't pass the physicals.

No shame in that as long as they registered for the draft, which Trump did. It's not like he went to Canada.

Maybe you missed McCain's insane rant about nationalism and how we need to keep fighting, fighting all over the world.

No thanks. Let other countries do their own fighting.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Artis Gilmore was incredibly strong but a truly gentle giant. Pop, Kerr and the rest of those assholes need to shut their whore mouths.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://radio.foxnews.com/2017/10/17/president-donald-trump-on-tax-reform-were-the-highest-tax-nation-in-the-world-we-need-the-tax-cuts/

Radio interview with Brian Kilmeade. Includes transcript.

The killer is the President brought along the per cent increases of the big health insurance companies' stocks since Obamacare was implemented. Increases as much as 480%!

[James D.]

RG, I would love to believe you.

But i have absolutely zero faith that ANYONE at DoJ has the slightest interest in actually going after any Democrat crimes.

From where I sit, they are all utterly corrupt until they demonstrate otherwise by their actions. They have earned no benefit of any doubt.

[Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma]

Oh go stuff your head in a Zesto's frosty, appalled.

Jeeez... Bet you'll defend Weinstein, too. I mean Hollywood and the media cast Satan as Jesus, and you bought that. That is what they do. And that is what you do. Every time. When you gonna figure it out?

[sbw]

Henry, you can drain the swamp a gator at a time or have one big flush.

If it is a flush, I want to fill my popcorn bucket before the scene starts.

[Extraneus]

Gee. The NBA wants to make their audience more selective? What a coincidence.

Today I cut the cable TV cord. No more of my money going to CNN, ESPN, MSNBC, or any of the rest of 'em.

[Buckeye]

So Soros has transferred $18 billion to Open Society Foundations, most of his fortune.

Time to declare OSF as a terrorist organization.

[matt, deplore me if you must]

McCain was a war hero by any standard. What he is now is a despicable self aggrandizing not very smart egotistical asshole. Met hom and was not impressed. I preferred him to Onama, but it was like preferring cod liver oil to ipecac.

NcCain's actions are all about his hatred of Trump. He could give a shit about the country. That he has terminal cancer and won't cede his seat is just another indicator of his issues.

Popovich is getting older and as a basketball coach is single minded. That is what it takes to be good at that kind of job. Not a great thinker and surrounded by the liberal narrative.

[henry]

Hmmm. Bannon backing Nicholson in WI. Guy is a Dem in human clothing. I'll stick with Vukmir, known for pushing cuts to government and taxes. Not a former Madison Dem. WTF Bannon?

[anonamom]

MM, you requested this recently

http://vernerwheelock.com/223-the-practicalities-of-changing-your-diet/

[Ralph L]

Henry, if Bannon pushed another right candidate, mightn't that make the primary about personalities instead of issues?

[RattlerGator]

TM, back to your prior post. I'm curious what the board thinks of this. I have contempt for Ta-Nehisi Coates, true. But I wonder about the center-left people (black, white or otherwise) who see clearly enough this aspect of the craziness:

* * *

For having the temerity to defend himself, Mr. Packer was accused on social media of “excusing racism” and “whitesplaining.” Such logic extends a disturbing trend in left-of-center public thinking: identity epistemology, or knowing-through-being, somewhere along the line became identity ethics, or morality-through-being. Accordingly, whiteness and wrongness have become interchangeable — the high ground is now accessible only by way of “allyship,” which is to say silence and total repentance. The upside to this new white burden, of course, is that whichever way they may choose, those deemed white remain this nation’s primary actors.

* * *

So, knowing-through-being is championed. Okay. Isn't it straightforward logic that morality-through-being will be an inescapable end-result?

Apparently not, for our brave friend Thomas Chatterton Williams then writes a concluding paragraph such as this:

* * *

However far-fetched that may sound, what identitarians like Mr. Spencer have grasped, and what ostensibly anti-racist thinkers like Mr. Coates have lost sight of, is the fact that so long as we fetishize race, we ensure that we will never be rid of the hierarchies it imposes. We will all be doomed to stalk our separate paths.

* * *

He confronts the fact directly in his writing, and includes the fact in his concluding paragraph, but has to modify said obvious fact so as to do . . . what? Not get devoured by the mob?

Ostensibly anti-racist?

That's as far as you can go? Buck up, man. Call a spade a spade (pun intended).

To me, so much of this goes back to what Camille Paglia brought out in her discussion with Jordan Peterson: there is a serious resentment of talent within the Marxist left, a resentment in an aesthetic of quality, so that a reductionism down to a power thing becomes controlling and it becomes all about jealousy and envy.

Does anyone else see the knowing-through-being concept morphing into a morality-through-being thing as merely a form of relativism? It's hiding a jealousy and envy mask, sure, but it is in the service of pure power, right?

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

I think we ultimately dodged a bullet by not electing McRINO. Romney too although it didn't seem that way at the time.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

anonamom,

Thanks!

We are starting with sugar, which means I will need to reduce wine consumption and probably switch to gin. (Hardship, I know.) Daughter iis really a sweet craver so I am going to try to help her as much as I can.

Both of us carry a genetic tendency for diabetes, so best to nip it in the bud now.

Much appreciate the link. I have bookmarked it for reference.

[henry]

RG, yes. Marxism is all about power. They all wanna be Harvey.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Does anyone else see the knowing-through-being concept morphing into a morality-through-being thing as merely a form of relativism? It's hiding a jealousy and envy mask, sure, but it is in the service of pure power, right?

Yes, Camille and Tammy Bruce understand this because they were creatures of the left. As was Breitbart.

[Buford Gooch]

McCain was a war hero. That doesn't mean he wasn't an asshole. He was, and is. He should have resigned his seat when diagnosed (actually long before that, except for different reasons). Hiding behind his "war hero" status is cowardly. People who push this crap about threatening to insult him are naive, at best.

[Buckeye]

Appalled

The fact that you defend McCain at Trump's expense confirms my opinion that you have a nasty warp in your rose colored glasses.

[henry]

Pictures from the neutron star collision.

https://www.space.com/38481-colliding-neutron-stars-stunning-pictures.html

[matt, deplore me if you must]

I wonder if there is a cosmic insurance adjuster for those collisions?

[exdemocrat]

everybody in Hollywood knew:

http://deadline.com/2017/10/scott-rosenberg-harvey-weinstein-miramax-beautiful-girls-guilt-over-sexual-assault-allegations-1202189525/

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

An insightful find, RG. Keep 'em coming.

[rich]

>>>I love it when Mr. Draft Deferment billionaire threatens to really insult the war hero with a terminal brain tumor. What's he trying to distract us from today?

Posted by: Appalled | October 17, 2017 at 11:26 AM<<<

what the hell? I seem to recall the media tried to play "the absolute moral authority" card twice on Trump: once with previous comments he made about McCain and then with a Gold Star family.

McCain is the worst of the worse with his bomb the world, resettle the world (but not in his neighborhood) worldview. Maybe instead of going around the world prattling on about his peculiar worldview he could spend some time cleaning house at the VA just like he did with baseball.

[Neo]

Как вы говорите "Фонд Клинтона" на русском?

[Extraneus]

That McCain chooses not to spend what time he has left with his family and friends is yet another insight into his personality, and it's not pretty.

[Jane (Stand against the Coup)]

Appalled,

From what I've seen, Trump ALWAYS punches back. Sometimes it's brilliant, sometimes not so much, but he does it regardless.

[Appalled]

Miss M:

McCain's vision of an America always ready to fight a war for Democracy is worth disputing. (Hey, that's a lot of why I cast that Obama vote y'all bless me out for). But the discussion ought to be thoughtful -- not "I fight back and it won't be pretty". Playground macho against an 80 year old with a brain tumor?

Stephanie:

I much prefer the Frosty O over at the Varsity. And why do you think I'd defend Harvey W? That's certainly a fact not in evidence....

Buckeye:

I'm no fan of McCain's politics, but, on the whole, I prefer his to Trump's. YMMV.

[rse]

RG-

I have a new post up which is why it is so fresh in my mind, http://invisibleserfscollar.com/instilling-desired-dreams-to-cultivate-personal-identities-and-purpose-to-achieve-new-future-directions/ but the marxism most alive and well in the 21st century is man as the driver of new directions.

That occurs by changing moral values, which is precisely what the templeton F is doing and jeb bush was their featured guest speaker recently.

the knkowing as being and being as becoming tracks back to the Humanist Psychologists like Maslow and Carl Rogers and Roland? . The launched in 1962, with nea funding, which is precisley the same year that the Marxist Humanist vision launched globally per gorbachev of all people. Documents in my possession back that up. I think jfk assasination created a hiccup but great society, in lbj's mind at least, was intended to get the mh vision back on track.

Remember lbj was very influenced by dewey;s vision which is an update of the man as a maker of history as my book covered to some extent.

[exdemocrat]

RG - if knowing can only come from being, how does any living black american know anything about slavery?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4989468/Obama-didn-t-phone-Gen-John-Kelly-son-KIA.html

As we suspected.

I am sure they will drag up some democrat loyalist to claim he/she got a phone call. It does seem odd he wouldn't call a GENERAL who lost his son.

[Captain Hate]

Boom goes the dynamite:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=372036#Top

[exdemocrat]

"I'm no fan of McCain's politics, but, on the whole, I prefer his to Trump's."

yeah, we know.

[Captain Hate]

Fuck McCain; that classless backstabbing prick deserves every insult tossed at him. He could avoid this by stepping out of the spotlight but that ain't happening.

[Appalled]

exdemocrat:

The point I always wonder about -- what if you are african-american, but not descended from slaves. Do you get that extra-special bit of contrarian insight, or not?

RG:

Glad you pointed that article out. i hadn't seen it.

[Extraneus]

McCain called Trump "unpatriotic." Pretty low, considering he never said anything close to that about Obama.

I agree with the Captain.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Appalled,

1. Twitter isn't for writing extended treatises on policy Anyone who thinks so is doomed to be disappointed in the level of discourse.

The President is communicating with the people. That tweet is to let us know that he knows what McCain has been up to and he will strike back. Exactly right as far as I am concerned, so I need not trouble myself that he hasn't seen clips of the speech.

2. If we were talking about just the President and just McCain, you might have a point. However, McCain is amplified by every mainstream outlet and not only that, I just caught THIS picture on Twitter, which makes McCain's position even more suspect:

Who's McCain standing next to? Why yes, that's Harvey Weinstein, mover and shaker in funding for democrats. Plenty of other pictures, too.. I just chose one that was small enough to fit without right clicking.

Spare me on this. McCain lets personal grudges dictate everything he does, and he cloaks his actions in national security, military, or his war hero status. I well remember how he plotted and connived after George Bush was elected.

President Trump isn't a politician. He's a street-fighting builder from Queens. The sooner you realize this, you will begin to understand him.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Porchlight, Porchlight!!! Look at this!

Bill Kristol‏Verified account @BillKristol

I like Gorsuch, decertifying Iran and leaving UNESCO. But they're not worth the degradation of our public life that is the Trump presidency.

Reply:

Scott Adams‏Verified account @ScottAdamsSays

Are you saying he's competent but you don't like him?

==================================

Capitulation phase well underway!

[hrtshpdbox]

Как вы говорите "Фонд Клинтона" на русском?>/i>

I don't know how to pronounce Clinton Foundation in Russian, but I do know that you write it like this:
Фонд Клинтона. My daughter could pronounce it for you (she's fluent).

[henry]

“Degradation of our public life”

What, no invites to the WH for short fat egotists anymore?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I should credit RG for finding that twitter exchange I posted above. I would have missed it because I think I quit following Kristol for my health.

[henry]

. Mm

[hrtshpdbox]

Damn, I don't think I know how to fix the italics thing, sorry

[Extraneus]

Harvard University professor Lawrence Lessig offered a Clinton path to the presidency on Medium, putting forward a series of "if/then" scenarios that lead to House Speaker Paul Ryan handing the White House keys to Clinton.

If number 1: If Trump is definitively found to have colluded directly with Russia, he would be forced to resign or be impeached.

If number 2: If Trump is removed, Vice President Mike Pence would become president.

If number 3: If Pence becomes president, he should resign too, given that he benefited from the same help from Mother Russia.

If number 4: If Pence resigns before appointing a vice president, Ryan would become president.

If number 5: If Ryan becomes president, he should do the right thing and choose Clinton for vice president. Then he should resign.

http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-president-lawrence-lessig-post-686077

(via Instapundit)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Fixed?

[henry]

Shadow world must have excellent smokes.

[James D.]

exdem @ 12:24

The writer of that article is a self-serving piece of crap. How do I know that?

Because he's not talking about giving away all the money he made thanks to all the doors Weinstein opened for him. He's not doing jack for any of the victims he turned a blind eye to back in the day, or claims to care so much about now.

If the story hadn't gone nuclear the way it has, he would never have said a word, and never lost a night's sleep over any of it.

He can go DIAF, along with all his Hollywood pals.

[Buford Gooch]

MM and RG

That Scott Adams tweet is priceless.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Extraneus,

Mr. Lessig left out step 6.

If Ryan should hand the White House to Hillary, millions of Trump supporters descend on DC and dismantle the White House down to a pile of rubble and haul Hillary off in chains.

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

The Hush button finally won. Making America Great Again. May God Bless President Trump!

[Jim Eagle]

Lawrence Lessig? Where do we find such idiots? 3 places I know of: Hollywood, the academy and congress.

rse,

You'll love this. Right in your wheelhouse. Fixing Ed in the UK. You'll love the ending. The horror of education for private profit:)

https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2017/10/13/warwick-mansell/the-education-business/?utm_source=LRB+blog+email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20171017+blog&utm_content=usca_subs

LRB is known for its letters, progressive letters that is and of course, their lonely hearts classifieds.

[Porchlight]

LOL, Miss Marple.

As if Clinton wouldn't have degraded the culture. Hell, she already has. At lesat 30 years' worth of degradation.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

My children were in grade school and high school when we had oral sex plastered all over the TV and radio thanks to Bill Clinton.

Hillary was right there with him.

Kristol should just shut up or start drinking or something.

[Extraneus]

Speaking of fantasizing lawyers...

Curtis Fallgatter wrote in a court filing on Monday that Stephen Donaldson Sr. doesn't have an average man's life expectancy because he's 5-foot-9 and weighs 273 pounds (124 kilograms). For that reason, the attorney wrote, it's not right to make him serve 6 years and four months in prison. Fallgatter wrote that the prison term could translate to 61 percent of Donaldson's remaining time on earth.

The Tampa Bay Times reports Donaldson was sentenced last week in Tampa for his part of peddling an offshore tax shelter that cost the IRS an estimated $10 million.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ODD_OBESITY_DEFENSE_FLOL-

[derwill]

I have two points--which aren't meant to be either a condemnation of Session's DOJ, nor a defense of it. Rather they're just practical observations on my part.

1) There can often be a big gulf between knowing a crime has been committed, and who done it and how they done it, and being able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. When you factor in that the perps are high-ranking Dems in the Obama Administration, and the court of law will be in DC with a likely liberal judge and 12 jurors who are die-hard, Obama-worshipping Democrats, who will be predisposed to render an OJ verdict, and it is possible that no amount of proof in the world will get you a guilty verdict. Thus, from a practical point of view, one must consider that bringing the charges is all you're going to get, and then weigh that against how damaging a not-guilty verdict will be to your agenda.

2) The minute the announcement that high-ranking Obama administration officials are being indicted comes across the wire, the reaction is going to be off the charts hysteria. It will paralyze the government. Trump is already having trouble getting anything through congress, but after that it will become impossible. So, again from a practical point of view, one must set priorities within an agenda, and in this case it could boil down to what is more important to Trump, perp-walking the Dems or getting his tax cuts, etc, enacted. Because it simply might not be possible to have both, no matter how much we might wish it weren't so.

[matt, deplore me if you must]

These bastards just won't let go of it. The LA Times has an op/ed on the road to a Clinton presidency via impeachment and the "intelligentsia" are really demonstrating that they are anything but.

Nice to see the Rep from Puerto Rico giving trump props for the Federal response. The douches just keep being shown up for the douches they are.

[anon ( AKA common man )]

If there was Appalled, we would have to make him up for the sheer entertainment value.

[anon ( AKA common man )]

NOT

[Porchlight]

derwill, enough with that common sense. We all know Sessions should have had all those people in orange jumpsuits by February at the latest. Obviously, he and Trump are swamp creatures. :)

[henry]

Well, priorities are fine. But so far: no ACA repeal. tax cuts hostage to McCain & friends. Dodd Frank repeal not on radar. Dems walking free.

What would be slowed down by perp walking perps?

[Buckeye]

Fuck McCain; that classless backstabbing prick deserves every insult tossed at him. He could avoid this by stepping out of the spotlight but that ain't happening.

Roget that.

Good news is he won't be with us much longer.

[James D.]

it could boil down to what is more important to Trump, perp-walking the Dems or getting his tax cuts, etc, enacted. Because it simply might not be possible to have both, no matter how much we might wish it weren't so.

My gut response to this is: let justice be done, though the Heavens fall.

Failing that, I'd like to see at least some of the worst prog moles in DoJ be removed, so that even if their crimes won't ever be prosecuted, at least they won't be able to do any new damage (at taxpayer expense).

[anon ( AKA common man )]

You have a lot more faith in Corker, McCain, Collins, Flake, Murky et al than I do. Call me when true tax reform passes more than the House.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I am increasingly appalled by Appalled.

[sbw]

Haven’t seen Appalled in ages. Don’t miss the opportunity.

[Clarice Feldman]

Bill Kristol‏Verified account @BillKristol
I like Gorsuch, decertifying Iran and leaving UNESCO. But they're not worth the degradation of our public life that is the Trump presidency.
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Scott Adams‏Verified account @ScottAdamsSays
Are you saying he's competent but you don't like him?

[derwill]

--My gut response to this is: let justice be done, though the Heavens fall.--

All fine and good in a perfect world, but you're not considering the likelihood that justice won't be done in any event, because you won't be able to get a guilty verdict in a DC court with a DC jury.

IMO, having them exonerated with a not guilty verdict would be the worst possible outcome and that is what you are very, very highly likely to get.

[GUS]

Dat 10:50 @ 10:00 my man!!!!!! I speak JIVE too!!!!!
If if if if if if if PRO-VOCK-A-TIVE!!!

[GUS]

Dave at 10:50 that is PROVOCATIVE my brother.
I'm having a tough time with the new laptop scroll and click. And I don't have fat fingers.