Knucklehead Grifter Busted For Being A Lying Knucklehead

It's Fitzmas at Halloween as Team Mueller releases info about a plea deal with George Papadopoulos, an actual member of Trump's campaign. OK, the guy was nobody, sitting off in London trying to promote himself by writing emails no one seems to have read. But hey, the failing NY Times gets a Fake News headline out of it:

Trump Campaign Adviser Met With Russian to Discuss ‘Dirt’ on Clinton

Hmm, he met with him to discuss it, as in, George P knew in advance that dirt was on the agenda? Neither the affidavit from FBI agent Robert Gibbs nor the stipulation agreed as part of the plea deal go that far. Here are pages 6 and 7 from the stipulation:

And from the affidavit:

A couple of things are missing. First, as proof of a false statement the FBI really might have wanted to include an email from Papadopuolos mentioning the "dirt". Instead, the Big Reveal in the affidavit is that the Professor was not treated as a 'nobody'. Disappointing!

No doubt some will say that Mueller is keeping his cards close to his vest. Please. If the people on the receiving end of the George P. emails hadn't already checked every email mentioning Hillary, Russia or emails, well, they surely have by now, with special emphasis on any email chain including George P. The idea that Mueller will mousetrap someone by producing an email from George P. of which the recipient is unaware is Fitzmas-level fantasizing.

Also missing, contra the Times headline - any indication that the agenda of the meeting was to discuss Hillary dirt. One might infer from the follow-up about arranging a Trump meeting with Putin that the agenda was in fact the ongoing discussion of a meeting that was never going to happen.

And speaking of this never-meeting, one of the more revealing factoids from the stipulation is this:

 So the nobody in London has been "working" on arranging a meeting for since March but only finds out in June just who on the campaign will set it up? Come on. And the footnote, where the message is passed that the whole thing is a non-starter, reveals just how completely out of the loop this indictee was.

So why was he lying about what are transparently legal meetings and gossip that never went anywhere? And why did he think any of these lies would hold up to a cursory (and inevitable) examination of his emails?

Obviously conspiracists will conjure an answer but I think we should never underestimate the power of stupid.

 

Comments

[-peter]

Just saw those Kendall Jenner photos about three threads back. Funny!

[Porchlight]

Muellermas looks to be a bust for the left. What a surprise. But keep hope alive! Low level nobody was trying to get a meeting!

[Porchlight]

Meanwhile, Tony P. knocked back some Chardonnay with Curb Dive just yesterday.

[narcisoyea]

That story already bores me, I linked the piece from powerline about the apparatchik than enabled Mueller:

I don't which one is Al imam

https://mobile.twitter.com/watchful1/status/925121379493543936/photo/1

[henry]

At what point does a distant volunteer really matter? That Carter Page guy was similar.

[narcisoyea]

Very near beer,
https://qz.com/1115591/the-professor-in-the-george-papadopoulos-case-who-tried-to-connect-trump-to-kremlin-is-probably-joseph-mifsud/

Perhaps 5th degree Kevin bacon

[Catsmeat]

Near beer--like PBR. Narcisoyea, said prof looks like a tool.

[mockmook]

The indictments (and rectal exams) have served one major purpose already:

People have to think twice about whether they want to work for Trump (or any GOP nominee) because who wants their whole life history under an FBI/Justice microscope?

In this sense, the Dems/GOPe have already won.

[narcisoyea]

As stein has pointed out many times, 'the punishment is the process'

[mockmook]

And, I hate that people are pooh-poohing this Manafort thing.

A rogue prosecutor on an endless fishing expedition (enabled by Sessions) created a process crime to punish someone who had the audacity to work for Trump -- it is an egregious abuse of our legal system AND THERE IS NO END IN SITE.

[mockmook]

SIGHT

[narcisoyea]

Clarice could gel you how vekakte this process has always been, and I can fill you in on how high procurators like weissman can rise.

[Kaiser Derden]

anyone who speaks to the FBI is an idiot that digs their own grave ...

[Threadkiller]

I am ok with Manafort getting it square in the groin. He was playing Two Americas and lost. Sorry pal but your scheme was criminal and you got busted despite what club you belonged to.

As far as Sessions, here is how I see it. When Trump sacked Manafort the story was "Campaign in Chaos!!" What Sessions has done is showed that a Trump's instincts on who to shitcan are impeccable. Even Mueller couldn't find fault with Trump's course of action.

Manafort gets less than zero sympathy from me.

[Thomas Collins]

Hold the presses! The hell with indictments, NoKo nukes, taxes, health care and trade agreements! Garoppolo to the 49ers for a second round draft pick.

[Account Deleted]

Did Clinton's experience with indie counsel or GWB's in the Pflim Pflam Pflame Pflambe deter people from working in successive administrations?

I'm taking a different view that Deep State wins by intimidation on this deal.

Agreed, the fishing expedition could do some damage--- but lethal damage? I doubt it.

The important difference between indie counsels of the recent past and the one of today, there are real crimes and extreme instances of corruption by an Executive Branch cabinet officer doing the bidding of a corrupt President in the pockets of foreign powers (The Rat).

Real crimes are going to get prosecuted. But it's going to take a while to get the cases constructed let alone prosecuted. In the meantime, POTUS is abiding by Napoleon's adage--- "When you see your enemies making mistakes, do not interrupt them."

Further, what happens once names become known with regards to the rank-and-file deep staters who are holding their secret meetings to conspire against the President and the government itself?

Pressure is mounting on the rotting heads and now the fungus in the feet and the deteriorating musculature of the legs is going to be revealed (release of Klein's next haymaker won't be pretty).... this bodes well for the "undecided" who are uncommitted to either the Deep State or the President.

We've been told that people have chosen sides. But I think the meaningful side-choosing has yet to happen. Now that it's investigation and indictment time, the stakes are much more prounounced and defined than they were at election time.

So so many people dint think Hildo was going to lose. And then she did. And then the Deep State staged their coup, as lame and frustrating as it has been (because they were hubristic and smug failing to plan).

I think POTUS is going to destroy his enemies. And that's why people will have to choose sides. They are either going to help by kicking in some timely and telling intel on the Deep State "dignitaries" who were counting on profiting from a Clinton coronation; or, they are going to slink off in the night to a non-extradition country with their ill-gotten insider trading loot.

[Buckeye]

Way OT

For the fans of Michael Hedges.

https://youtu.be/2w7khl1lixQ

A tribute by Calum Graham. Some really fine fingerstyle guitar.

[Account Deleted]

BellyChick cashes in on Jimmy G. Second round pick is likely going to be an early pick coming from the lowly niners. Smooth move. Jimmy G will be screaming to get out of Santa Clara in two years. The owners are pin-dicked know nothings, hemmorhaging cash in a ridiculously expensive and underfunctioning stadium.

[mockmook]

Oh BS

These are two separate issues, two separate investigations. One is actually damaging people, the other is completely theoretical and likely will never happen (not in a meaningful sense, not with prosecutions).

Sure, its easy to be blase about people being prosecuted for the horrible crime of not filling out some paperwork -- that is unless you are the one being targeted.

[Dave (in MA)]

0-8ers

[Account Deleted]

Whatever.

[daddy]

Beats the heck out of me whats going on, but these words from 'der Bingle I'm trying to keep in mind:

Ac-Cent-Tchu-Ate the Positive

Bing Crosby

You've got to accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between

You've got to spread joy up to the maximum
Bring gloom down to the minimum
Have faith or pandemonium
Liable to walk upon the scene...

[Account Deleted]

I'll buy into that, el d.

[Momto2]

Smug quiet stares. Like goats. This is going to fall on their heads.

http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/07/08/485153844/what-does-it-mean-when-a-goat-gazes-into-your-eyes

Conclusion: "When a goat gazes into your eyes, it may be issuing a silent plea for help."

[Dave (in MA)]

Help, I'm a goat.

[Another Bob]

I've Seen The Future of Fake News and It's Terrifying

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=372276

[Jim Eagle]

If McRino was so honorable, he'd resign. But finishing second to last he understands he can survive but barely. And isn't appropriate to have this liar, thief (S&L crisis) and seditionist (Dossier) that he would address the United States Naval Academy of Diversity, Social Justice and Navigational Malfeascence.

[windansea]

EXCLUSIVE: Kevin Spacey's father was 'Nazi child rapist' who hated Jews and sexually abused his own son for years - and their mother knew, claims actor's brother

Yes that's a real headline, all's forgiven Kev

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5032809/Kevin-Spacey-s-father-Nazi-child-rapist-brother-says.html#ixzz4x2yUCFNP
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

China's Record Yield Curve Inversion "Spells Disaster"

[Jim Eagle]

G.O.A.T. Greatest of All Time:)

Off to bed. Slaap lekker, tot morgen.

[daddy]

An Hispanic University of Nevada, Reno Police Officer getting hammered for wearing this costume to the annual Halloween Party:

Nobody in America can take a joke anymore.

[Catsmeat]

Hi, JiB, check last thread for answer--short answer, you are being silly! (Good for you).

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Another pinko billionaire calls Trump a threat to democracy.
It's only a matter of time before they tell us they had to destroy democracy to save it.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

My daughter made a pig nose out of foam, and will wrap a blanket around her. Thus - pig in a blanket.

[narcisoyea]

Kevin spaceys dad was a Nazi rod stewart?

[Catsmeat]

JiB, if you know what I mean re Cuban Fire, let me know!

[narcisoyea]

The band or the meal, I had never heard of eiter before.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Think I will head to bed, too. My brain is worn out with trying to keep track of all of this stuff.

Nytol!

[Catsmeat]

Nytol, also--have faith!

[narcisoyea]

He seemed ok at the beginning

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2017/03/07/barry-sternlicht-animal-spirits-revived-under-trump.html

[Clarice Feldman]

Nytol, too--behave.

[Frau Schiessgewehr]

"Mueller has fired first shots in Russian investigation..."

[narcisoyea]

This was unexpected:
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/saudi-arabia-extract-uranium-self-sufficient-nuclear-program

[Manuel Transmission]

Re the MS13 thugs, I posted a rant about that some time ago only slightly tongue in cheek:

The Pee Wee Herman rule - every gang dude who is easily recognizable by his gang tats is fair game to have his head blown off by any citizen without worry of reprisal by the constabulary. The only recourse for the thugs is showing up at the bodega wearing a Pee Wee outfit. Bow tie, pants up under the armpits cuffs up near the top of their socks. No hat. No facial hair. No posturing.

How long would that take before they decide that Central America isn't really all that bad afterall.

[Frau zum Kotzen]

Queasy Comey is too smug and arrogant in his reaction to Manafort's indictment.

Following Monday's revelations, Comey shared a quote from American theologian Reinhold Niebuhr on his private Twitter account.

"Man's capacity for justice makes democracy possible, but man's inclination to injustice makes democracy necessary," he wrote.

Why didn't *his* FBI take care of the crimes listed? they happened on Queasy's watch. Did Eric "My People" Holder or Loretta Lynch tell him not to deal with the matter?

[narcisoyea]

Well he was the credit

[narcisoyea]

Monitor for HSBC till last year.

[2 minute duda]

"OK, the guy was nobody, sitting off in London trying to promote himself by writing emails no one seems to have read"

A nobody who sat in on meetings with Trump and his national security team during the 2016 campaign.

You have to tenderize the meat before you begin to feast upon it.

[derwill]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't view laundering money and failing to report millions of dollars in income to the IRS "process crimes."

[JimNorCal]

Buckeye: re-Michael Hedges
I saw this disciple of his play live a couple of times at Yoshi's in Oakland.
http://mikedawes.co.uk/bio/
It's not a style that moves me but there's talent on display, clearly

[GUS]

That $145,000,0000.00 , what was it FOR.

Do they make STRIPED MAO PANTS SUITS for inmates??

[narcisoyea]

Let see what they can actually prove, once we get past the reliance on fisa for at least some of the targeting info.

[GUS]

I don't know about "process crimes", but, Manafort and his dealings with Ukraine, were before DJT ran for President.
The $145,000,000.00 in the CRIME FAMILY VAULT was during RODHAMS' time as Secretary of State.
When did The Rapist get paid $500,000.00 for a PUTIN speech??? While RODHAM was Sec State.

[derwill]

I don't think it's penetrated the Libs' bubble yet that the crimes Manafort got arrested for happened long before he worked for Trump and with the knowledge (and possibly on behalf) of the people he was working for--namely, The Podesta Group.

And who are the Podesta Group duda might ask. Why only the most powerful Democrat lobby and bundler group in DC.

And who was Hillary's campaign manager duda might ask? Why, John Podesta!

[narcisoyea]

And before they, they were the garden slugs who took after Thomas and bork, the other brother was high up in sores center for America an progress while the main brother lobbied for Egypt, the kingdom swell as Ukraine.

[narcisoyea]

They worked maNy of the same corners as manafort

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/207177-lobbyists-egypt-part-ways-plm-group

[narcisoyea]

He does have a way wi

http://dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/hillarys-howlers/news-story/b31731136cf9240fe0054c0f66f8aed9

[2 minute duda]

"I don't think it's penetrated the Libs' bubble yet that the crimes Manafort got arrested for happened long before he worked for Trump and with the knowledge (and possibly on behalf) of the people he was working for--namely, The Podesta Group.
And who are the Podesta Group duda might ask. Why only the most powerful Democrat lobby and bundler group in DC.And who was Hillary's campaign manager duda might ask? Why, John Podesta"

Sssssshhhhhhhh.

Don't struggle.

It'll all be over soon.

[narcisoyea]

Clearly he was the last person in London, using dsl

[derwill]

At this point the only person who is acting panicked is Democrat Party bundler and lobbyist Tony Podesta.

[Dave (in MA)]

I'm seeing Dana Rohrbacher on the Carlson rerun.

She's nowhere as attractive as I'd expected based on what I heard from Chelsea Whatshername.

[narcisoyea]

And then there's this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ramielobeidi/status/925128110743441408?p=v

[narcisoyea]

He may not be the mist reliable source, but we have little to go on.

[Exdemocrat]

No idea about that source either, narc, but I must admit that given the timing it occurred to me he might have been turned over rather than captured.
Which would be just fine by me.

[narcisoyea]

He appears sensible from thus:
speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Rami_El_Obeidi

But caveat lector

[Dave (in MA)]

derwill, more pixels have been used to form exclamation points in the past 24 hours than ever before, all because the moonbatosphere found out today that some guy they never heard of before got arrested 3 months ago.

Maybe this Papodopolopolopolopoulos guy was just going to see if he could get the uranium back.

[Dave (in MA)]

http://lileks.com/bleats/archive/17/1017/103117.html

Perhaps Spacey could do a Halloween Special.

[cheerleader]

I'd be very disappointed if the president pardoned Manafort. The monetary cheating he did with offshore proceeds was super sleazy and he should pay a price for that.

I'm sure he supports Trump's idea to make offshore money easier to repatriate.

[Miss Marple]

Cheerleader,

The indictment is always written to make things sound as bad as possible.

Also, repatriation of corporate money legally held off shore is not the same as concealing foreign bank accounts.

Ack! 4 AM! Back to bed for me!"

[cheerleader]

Nitey nite.

I was thinking more of the laundering aspect, money brought into the U.S. illegally.

[cheerleader]

"Sssssshhhhhhhh....Don't struggle.....It'll all be over soon...."

...said Democrats to each other on election night, as they waited with bated breath for Hillary's big win.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Assuming what they have accused Manafort of is true, it's not a process crime but a fairly major felony.
However that is a large assumption.
Not as large as the task facing poor Weedavey of trying to sound convincing that he's excited about the phantom meatgrinder that cometh, but pretty large nonetheless.

Now, I'm not sure where I stand on whether foreign income should be taxed but it is, so he's likely got a problem. The question I have is why he would take such a high profile job knowing he's got something like that sitting out there and knowing as a Republican he has no possible recourse to Dem prosecutorial immunity.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

When Lileks affectionately ridicules old, kitschy stuff he's funny.
When he's snotty, not so much.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Well, made coffee instead as sleep was not going to return.

Iggy,

Agree about Lileks. That made me laugh because I can almost remember watching that original Lynde show. I will have to show that to my son, who was 8 years old in 76. He might get a kick out of it.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

In case you were under the impression that Michael Beschloss is a nonpartisan historian, I give you this tweet which is accompanied by a vintage photo, which I won't bother to post:

Michael Beschloss‏Verified account @BeschlossDC 6h6 hours ago

Spiro Agnew in 1971 with George Papadopoulos, Greek dictator charged during Watergate with making illegal donations to Nixon-Agnew campaign:

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/manafort-faces-rare-charge-of-failing-to-file-as-a-foreign-agent/article/2638976

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Ed Klein on Fox talking about his new book:

1. Antifa and other radical left groups traveled to Europe and got training from ISIS and Al Qaeda affiliates in bomb-making and toxic chemicals, per FBI.

2. There is an organized anti-Trump group (Deep State) within the government and FBI has infiltrated them.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-kelly/white-house-chief-of-staff-calls-for-special-counsel-to-probe-democrats-idUSKBN1D00BJ

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/30/californias-clean-energy-future-a-medieval-society/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5018141/ISIS-connection-anarchists-revealed-Ed-Klein-book.html

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5034777/200-dead-North-Korean-nuke-test-site-tunnel-collapse.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

They sure do seem to have a lot of tunnel collapses.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.apnews.com/d04e97fd08e14e4284ac0113e35e306c/Officials:-US-captures-key-militant-key-in-Benghazi-attack?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Politics

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

'GITMO' BAMA ▪️‏ @President1Trump Oct 29

Dennis Kucinich: The entire Russia story was made up to smear Donald Trump..

https://twitter.com/President1Trump/status/924613288683622400

Video at link. Kucinich might be a little flaky (well, a lot), but he's an honest guy. Boy how my thinking has changed over him!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Ly. Michael Walsh (sp_ retired Green Bret on Fox regarding the capture of that Benghazi terrorist:

1. Obama nixed this mission several times.
2. He's puzzled about why he's being brought to the US instead of Gitmo. (I am not - Trump wants a public trial.)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/book-obama-plot-to-destroy-trump-over-russia-hatched-at-christmas/article/2638930

[Davod]

This is the link title included on Instapundit:

"Weinstein tells pals scandal happened so he could ‘change the world.’"

I do wonder if the outing of every man/woman and their dog will give the ratbags a free hand to spend most of their time attacking Trump for sexual deviancy.

[henry]

David, I don't know about Trump in particular. The big risk is the end of the presumption of innocence in sexual allegations from anonymous sources, as the college Title IX processes worked. Simply denounce whomever, and take his stuff. No defense allowed. All men are rapists per SJWs.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

In Hollywood in particular, some women will have figured out that instead of gaining fame by sleeping with a director, they will be able to hit the talk show circuit by making false allegations.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Oh, here's Eric Erickson on Fox defending Trump on the Russia charges.

I guess he discovered there wasn't much money in being a NeverTrumper.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Seems to me it will have the opposite effect, Davod.
What prog will bring up some jock talk from 20 years ago that was in fact true when they get 100 worse prog examples thrown back in their face? They may still bring it up but the rest of the wrold will be laughing at them.

As far as henry's concern, there's been very little talk of lawsuits or prosecutions.
Prog bigwigs might not care if some frat kid gets railroaded but they won't allow their own ass to get knocked over by a cowcatcher.

[Marlene]

Good Morning! The school closure list in Maine this morning sounds like a snow day! The wind storm was intense and caused major outages. Happy Halloween!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The reason I was curious about the source of that quote regarding how Mueller would be wrapping things up shortly is because if the source was Trump [and it was, through Sanders] then it is probably true.
As I hope most of us have learned by now, when he or his people say stuff like that it usually turns out to be true down the road, though ignored or ridiculed by progs when first stated.

[-peter]

that's some powerful coffee you're drinking there, Miss Marple--lots of links

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

peter,

I try to put up the overnight stuff to get everyone started. I didn't realize how many I had done until you mentioned it. LOL!

Iggy,

General Kelly also said it on Laura Ingraham's show last night, so I figure it's true.

[Marlene]

Iggy,are you awake? Your ankle is bothering you? Elevate and ice! :)

[Marlene]

Oh geez,obviously Iggy is awake! It is early out west!

[henry]

Papadopolous was part of FusionGPS? This guy thinks the Podesta Group put both Manafort and GP into the Trump campaign. Screws loose? Who knows. One of those Twitter thread things:

https://twitter.com/imperator_rex3/status/925226544393371649

[Janet 🚬]

I wrote this on the last thread yesterday -

Caught just a bit of PBS Newshour. They were giddy with excitement.
They had a short bit on how Republicans were trying to tangle Hillary in the mess & some guy did his best to debunk that notion.

Insty linked this which looks like the SAME thing on CNN - "CNN raises the Trump Media Conspiracy Theory"

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mainstream-scream-cnn-raises-the-trump-media-conspiracy-theory/article/2639022

[Porchlight]

I've heard that theory before, henry. Given the events of 2016 I'd say anything is possible.

[Jim Eagle]

Big news out here on the indictment is that Manafort could lose his Bridgehampton home if convicted. Don't know the logic there but I guess his defense will wipe him out.

That's how we roll out here, if it isn't real estate in the news then it isn't news.