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October 08, 2017


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MM: First my disclaimer---- I am not a doctor nor do I play one on tv.

All I have to share is my experience. (Acknowledges all the eyerollers. Hi, how ya doin.)

When I started my road back from the dead against Type II diabetes (the "it's all your fault you fat fuck!" disease), there was a moment of clarity.

In that moment I became certain that my original condition (pre-diabetic) which required a small amount of metformin to control sugar levels was made worse over time (six years) and vital organ functions became compromised in the vicious cycle of increasing dosages of drugs for treating related conditions.

The medical complex mindset for treating Type 2, by and large, is to keep the patient comfortable, continue raising oral sugar control meds until maxxing the patient out on those, and raising all the other medications for treating other maladies (vascular etc)and ultimately "guide" us onto the growth hormone insulin.

What I became clear about is that the collective mindset which had run out of options (couldn't inject enough insulin) leaving me at death's door (a thoroughly compromised immune system susceptible to MRSA super bug and near total destruction of veins in the lower legs) that mindset was not going to create an effective solution set to do one simple thing: AVOID DEATH.

What it takes: finding a doctor who understands that the mental maladies like depression and schizophrenia are directly related to dysfunctions in the gastrointestinal tract. (The colon is the seat of our emotional balancing system--- not the brain.)

And when that tract is coated with a plaque tougher than joint compound used to bond dry wall, or bondo used to fill imperfections on an auto body, the nutritional gateways to sound emotional health and sanity are blocked.

Without plaque removal, the patient is destined to live a life of powders and compounds to address symptom while decreasing the capacity of the regenerative organs (liver, heart, kidneys, bladders, etc) to do their jobs---- keep us from aging prematurely.

The doctor I found to treat me and who reversed the degenerative type II diabetic complex focused on the GI tract.

I was off ALL medications for everything in six days. No side effects and no withdrawal symptoms.

Wasn't on anti-depressants but I was in treatment with 9 other people in their 50s and 60s who had been for 30 years or more.

I do not have anything to say about treating schizophrenia.

There are many people I met during my time in treatment who had family members that found solutions to their conditions and improved their quality of life dramatically by altering the condition of the walls of their G/I system.

The biggest barriers they encountered was fear of life without meds because the consequences over time going down that road were horrific.

So I am saying this now because I am not making claims regarding that malady specifically--- but there are people out there who can do so based on what they've accomplished with their own lives.

And, one thing more on this re mental illnesses and integrity of the G/I tract, people are disposed to retort with "If that really worked then why isn't everybody doing it? Why aren't doctors recommending it?"

Great questions--- but when it comes to finding out what works it is also a giant waste of time. I simply look at their balance sheets and determine from talking to their patients about what their treatments are and who is supplying the compounds for such treatments.

There is the answer as best I can say. Now, moving on....

People I was in treatment with who were on anti-d's came off their meds in 6-10 days without side effects.

This is not some "miracle."

This is a solution set which doesn't use pharmaceutical treatment as the premise for anything in the process.

Radical treatment to revitalize one's blood supply and fortifying one's red blood cells through nutrition (living food free of toxins and other compounds that compromise red blood cells) was the key to leaving the pharma behind without side effects.

Remember, the treatment I received was a live-in round the clock scenario. Outpatient models aren't going to cut it. And it takes a lot of peer support to see it through.

As I've shared here before, I came off of vicodin after having dosed twice a day for six years to offset diabetic nerve pain in the feet and hands. No withdrawal symptoms.

Lots of pain but we offset that by alternative means--- instantly.

My doctor isn't a crusader. Neither am I.

What we are is *clear* that no one has ever died or pushed their endocrine system or any other system into a death spiral from eating properly and supplementing based on proper assessment of blood panels and the deficiencies revealed. Period.

I'll leave the "when is it proper to use pharmaceuticals?" recommendations to doctors.

As for how to get out of the weird house of mirrors of bunk pharma and prescription writer MDeez, contact a local resource in the holistic healing network nearest you. Find out who they recommend as trusted medical doctors that are not pharmaceutical reps.

Consult with them. Get their informed opinions and weigh it against the results of the past 10 years realized by following your current MDeez recommendations.

The mindset which creates or exacerbates problems is not to be trusted to find lasting systemic solutions--- especially when it comes to one's regenerative organs.

Pharma doesn't have a very good track record long-term. The vicodin kept me comfortable but was hell on my liver etc. But even those impacts are being reversed through the treatment now in its 17th month.

The dementia-antidepressant link is being discussed above whisper level now.

What isn't is the overlooked sugar/carb overconsumption by patients on anti-depressants.

The sugar/hyper carb consumption link to dementia is real (there are many forms of dementia mind you) and the plaque byproduct from metabolizing sugars is a one-two punch against the brain and the walls of the intestinal tract (upper and lower).

This information is available through any holistically trained competent licensed medical professional. There are gobs and gobs of books, articles, videos, and classes available on these subjects.

If your daughter is so inclined to arm herself with credible information which hasn't been politicized, then she'll likely begin to start asking the kinds of questions of her doctors which she can use to evaluate where they are going to take her as she ages.

That will propel her into taking massive radical action that is required to not die an early death due to major organ failure from eating powders that contain compounds which the companies have to write volumes of disclaimers about.

Once she sees for herself that they will likely continue to recommend this/that new pharma to address what has so far been treated without resolution, she'll widen her search.

Our freedom as a people is rooted in our health.

I will keep your daughter in my prayers, MM.


PS: Meanwhile the doctors involved in this spinal infection treatment I'm working through are scratching their heads over things they've never seen before.

For example, the strep bacteria that had taken over my T4 vertebrae had grown to become a sizeable colony.

Yet, I didn't have any night sweats or fevers in the two week run up to hospitalization.

And the symptomatic pain that I was experiencing prior to admission had appeared 16 months ago then disappeared. The entire time I was following the diabetic recovery model nutrition plan.

I've shared the plan with them. They've ignored it.

I'm still here. Shouldn't be, given the nature of osteomyelitis and the size of that infection and its location. God bless.

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Wow. First and second?


Thank goodness Nate didn't cause too much damage.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


This is really interesting. He talks about how he beefed up his casino's security, and how they don't allow guns and don't allow "Do Not Disturb" over 12 hours.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Thanks for the information. I need a web site or something dealing with how to get off a carb diet, which as you probably know, is the default diet when one is eating on a budget.

I am pretty sure we should move to high protein and avoid things like pancakes and waffles. Other than that, I am at a loss.

Do you have a list of supplements, or a place where one can go to read about them? Thanks!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3m3 minutes ago

Senator Bob Corker "begged" me to endorse him for re-election in Tennessee. I said "NO" and he dropped out (said he could not win without...

..my endorsement). He also wanted to be Secretary of State, I said "NO THANKS." He is also largely responsible for the horrendous Iran Deal!

.Hence, I would fully expect Corker to be a negative voice and stand in the way of our great agenda. Didn't have the guts to run!

I posted the first part of this 3-part tweet on the last thread.

Boy, I bet Corker wishes he had kept his mouth shut! How about HIM wanting to be SOS!

This is great! I am tired of those asses in the Senate acting like they are the big experts on everything.


trigger warning maryrose--repost, so skip on by

ch, re: psychoactive drugs:

IOW there are lots of variables in play.

You betcha bud. And God bless all those front line primary care doctors that are dealing with the angst of modernity to the best of their ability.

And infinite blessings to psychiatrists, who are truly dealing with the most challenging beings among us.

What everyone needs to remember about drugs is that studies are essentially herd medicine. Which is definitely what vaccines are for--protecting the herd, and the cost is the occasional blitzed kiddo.
(We're all vaccinated at my house.)
You, on the other hand, are a unique snowflake.

The other thing to note in all this is that psychiatrists have been desperate forever to find a biological basis for what ails us--there's nothing they'd like more than to end the suffering. Which is why benzos and SSRIs were so warmly embraced.
(Which is why statins/low fat diet were so warmly embraced---same thing, different specialty.)

Fabulous book on the evolution of psychiatry over the past half century by a psychiatrist who's lived through it all, and is the guru of PTSD--which is simply major anxiety/depression is The Body Keeps the Score. $13 well spent.




But, but, I heard Bannon and Trump hated each other??

Old Lurker

MM " I am tired of those asses in the Senate acting like they are the big experts on everything."

Would you accept a friendly amendment by changing "everything" to 'anything"?


I need a web site or something dealing with how to get off a carb diet,

Can’t help you, but I can recommend separating eating proteins and carbs by at least an hour so that proteins aren’t digested like carbs.

Then, I think you will find that carbs can be moderated at whatever speed is comfortable.






Whole30.com (a more severe elimination diet, but lots of great testimonials)

Old Lurker

Wha? Anonamom? You mean that nutrition poster on the wall at McD's isn't?


No Do Not Disturb longer than 12 hours? How can they do that?

Dinner, drinks, back to the room at 8pm, put sign on door. Watch a little TV, whatever. Go to sleep. They can barge in on you after 8am?

Captain Hate

Corker getting ridiculed is as good as it gets. Maybe that other Tennessee asshole will take notice and change his RINO ways.


Bobbing like a Corker wanted to be SOS?

Failed SOS aspirant does not secure a Trump endorsement, announces retirement, and anonymous sources run to the press claiming a riff between Trump and Tillerson.



Has anyone accused Weinstein of coercive sex in return for a part? Has anyone come forward claiming they refused his advances and were passed over for a more amenable hot babe instead?

Still fun to pile on, but so far what I've seen seems pretty lame. Just like with Ailes.


kev-i picked up food poisoning while in nyc last weekend so reading that about the gi tract made me feel dizzy. I am not sure what will get appetite back.

MM- I wanted to emphasize a point that was in a'mom's link but is more crucial than again md's tend to lay out unless you are lucky. The timing and keeping to that schedule of when the thyroid meds are taken daily matters immensely. It should not vary really by more than say 15 minutes.

You said your daughter had taken a vacation and I remember you writing about going to airport. What we have found is that oevrseas travel will really mess you up as the body thinks you have changed your med schedule drastically. red started downhill with symptoms about a month after a college ww2 trip to europe until I realized the timing.

It doesn't have to be that drmatic a change though. she came out this summer to join me and her sister on a west coast trip and even that 3 hour time difference through her off. In other words, if you normally take something at 8 am eastern time and go to CA, set the alarm, take at 5, and roll back over while you are travelling.

Captain Hate

An old joke: A man sitting alone in his house one evening hears a commotion in his back yard. He looks out the window and notices that two strangers have broken into his tool shed and are rifling through his tools. He calls 911 to report it.

"Sorry sir," the dispatcher says, "We have no one to send to your location at the moment. I'll send a patrol car as soon as one becomes available."

The man hangs up, thinks for a moment, and dials 911 again. This time, before the dispatcher can speak, he gives his name and address and says, "Don't bother sending that patrol car. I just shot the burglars dead, so there's no longer a reason to hurry."

Within two minutes there are SIX patrol cars and two ambulances in the man's driveway. They find the burglars still in the act, handcuff them and lead them away. The senior officer of the detachment confronts the homeowner: "You said you'd shot the two of them dead."

The man smiles. "And you said you had no one available to send."
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at October 08, 2017 09:36 AM (mj4NC)

Miss Marple the Deplorable

New theme on Twitter: "Corked"


Threadkiller, I am suspicious, too. Probably Corker sent his minions out to do his dirty work - that's what Lugar did. Corker's staff is out of jobs and they are no doubt resentful that the gravy train is ending.


I'm leaning towards a reveal on how our antiquated gun laws made this worse than it should have been.

Posted by: Threadkiller | October 08, 2017 at 10:08 AM

I don't doubt that will be the attempted 60 Minutes spin; but, what about the investigatory team? If this turns out to be just some gun control, gun control, gun control jibber jabber I will be highly disappointed.

They will be speaking to:

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Detective Casey Clarkson

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Detective Matthew Donaldson.

Las Vegas Police Department K-9 unit Officer David Newton from the and

Las Vegas Police Department K-9 unit Sergeant Joshua Bitsko

And . . .

Interestingly (for discussion purposes on our board, at least), they will also be speaking with Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo.


Miss M, the Plant Paradox thing seems ok. It mostly vegetables and smaller protein portions. I've been doing it 6 weeks, blood lipids were much better a two weeks, now getting belt notches back. Just skip all the expensive CA coastal froufrou supplements. You don't need them.


Stupid, in over his head, Lombardo is being let out of confinement? For an interview??

Yesterday it sounded like his career was done.


KK, your dietary journey is helpful TY.


I have searched to no avail. The only reason we know what was on the note is because CBS released a teaser snippet from its interview with a cop that was in the maniac's room.

No other media outlet went berserker and demanded more info from any of the offical investigative teams handling this mess.

Ann Coulter's article deserves another post.


The media are content with a complete forfeiture of their usual "first to market" style of reporting. It is as if The Journolist is doling out who gets what drip of info and when. CBS now, NBC next?

And they will be shocked when the official narrative is mocked.

There is a reason a Birther is POTUS. People don't like the media telling them what to think when it is contrary to the obvious.


hello to all, can't keep up. Lots of great wisdom here which I will graze upon. Loved Clarice's column today, Clarice were you influenced by rse's many helpful posts here at JOM?

Enjoy Sunday folks.


TK, journolist is switching to the depraved sex maniac theme. Because prostitutes never lie.


"What to think" editorializing is bad enough, but the msm's "Don't believe your lying eyes"shtick is contemptuous.

Jim Eagle


Did you see where I reported that half the Wyandanch team took a knee during the antherm at our Homecoming game? We won 16-0. [my prior post of 24-0 was wishful thinking:]

les nessman

Has there been any security video released from the hotel?
Seems pretty straightforward; did anybody/nobody come into/leave the shooters room before/during the shooting?

Clarice Feldman

peter, I'm influenced by whatever anyone posts here--well, some exceptions, but few.

Clarice Feldman

I'm still sticking to my belief that Paddock was nuts and not someone the deep state wants to hide.

reporting from tail end of last thread--re the comment on Gowdy's questioning of Lynch:The reason it is almost impossible to secure a conviction for perjury before Congress is the questions are always so poorly phrased. Other reasons to be tested--proved unnecessary in the Reinecke case as we won on the lack of a legal quorum--include these: Questioners come and go and there's no consistent thread so the person being questioned may well be responding to something raised minutes ago by another Congressman, and unlike court proceedings the Congressmen can change the transcript afterwards with no record of the amendations and the stenographer is often guessing at what the testimony was because he has no opportunity to stop and ask for clarification. There's more, but there you are.


Coulter's piece is excellent. Glad she noted men died protecting women in Vegas. ... "Typical Reporter: Yeah, we decided not to go with the mass shootings at the Tennessee church, the Washington Navy Yard, San Bernardino, the Pulse nightclub, Fort Hood, the LIRR, the Carson City IHOP, the Trolley Square Shopping Mall, the Windy City Core Supply warehouse, Virginia Tech, the Binghamton Civic Center, the Hartford Distributors, the hunting tract in Wisconsin, the Appalachian School of Law … "
Wow, so many and more like the shooting of elderly white cruise goers at Ft Lauderdale Airport by iirc a Puerto Rican.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


The various investigative and oversight committees have degenerated into time-wasters.

Mostly they are used for grandstanding sound bites or obfuscation of an issue.

Your pointing out the disjointed and often amended questioning just reinforces my belief that massive re-thinking of the whole system needs to be done.


RG seems to have the best take so far on the murders in Las Vegas.
I believe I read a bit of news that had President Trump wanting Corker to run again.
Don't believe he is trying to knife him in the back on the way out.
That seems like pure conjecture to me.
Corker is as wrong on the Iran deal but I will not trash him on everything else.
He has been a reliable Republican vote.
I am a bit puzzled as to why President Trump wouldn't endorse him for re-election. He didn't work with Murray on a pro Dem healthcare fix like Alexander did.


You need to move to the Midwest if you want to see people hand on heart, singing the National anthem.
Went to Case Western Reserve University game yesterday.
All stood for the Anthem.
You residence in New York State.is the underlying problem.


I am a bit puzzled as to why President Trump wouldn't endorse him for re-election.

A hint:

Republican Senator Bob Corker said he stands by his comments that Donald Trump hasn’t shown the stability or competency to succeed as president, and that Trump’s criticism of Republican congressional leaders is fueling resentment within the party.


Clarice Feldman

Heh--"Puritans of Hollywood" then and now:https://amgreatness.com/2017/10/07/hey-lefties-where-are-your-pssyhats-now/


HOWEVER-- the utter absence of ANY info on Paddock opens me up to others. Hard to believe they wouldn't find stuff on his laptop researching this...
And where are the first two wives?
The guys who run the range he would have needed to practice at?

Come on, somebody...

Just one thought anonamom, I do most of my firearm practice when I go camping, nobody "runs" the range per se. Likewise I have a buddy who spends his winters in Arizona in an area much like most of Nevada. His "range" is his back yard.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


The Iran deal was why he wouldn't endorse. Corker was a mover in that deal, and President Trump despises it, feeling like it was the worst deal ever.

How in the world could he endorse Corker, given what he thinks?

By the way, Corker has replied.

Senator Bob Corker‏Verified account @SenBobCorker

It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning.


President Trump knows things. This is something people often discount. I would bet you 10 bucks there is more to the refusal to endorse Corker than just the Iran deal.


CBS's Face the Nation just played the teaser clip on CBS's 60min note revelation.

Dickheaderson then went to the panel of experts and asked what this note may mean.

Panelist #1: "We need to ban high capacity magazines"

Panelist #2: "We need to ban a whole hell of a lot more than magazines. You never know who may be waiting to snap and express their undiagnosed mental disease."

Going out on a limb, I'm going to assume the CBS experts watched more than the teaser to prepare their opinions.


JIB and maryrose:

The front page of our newspaper this morning featured a photo of a small town's (about 20 minutes away from us) football team running onto the field Friday night -- every player was carrying an American flag. Sort of made me tear up.

Jim Eagle


Is Pittsburgh, midwest enough for you? You know the Pittsburgh Kneelers.

And BTW, our diocese (Rockville Center) is the only one I know of who have issued specific instructions to the diocesan schools that whenver the anthem is played and there is a flag, that all student-athletes must stand, face the flag and place hand over heart.

Has the Cleveland Diocese done the same?


When were those statements made by Corker?
Before or after his decision not to run?


Trump beat HC in TN 61-35. Corker lost his first Senate bid to Bill Frist. He won his second bid by facing a Dem candidate who his party disavowed as too conservative immediately after he won the multi-candidate primary.


That is wonderful to hear! New York and California and Massachusetts think we all buy into this kneel during he pledge nonsense.
We don't.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--She may well have to taper very slowly, and be prepared to feel worse rather than better while this is happening.--

Withdrawal from benzos seems particularly horrific for some, with those never having hallucinated or having had delusions from whatever the underlying condition is experiencing intense, violent ones during withdrawal.

Re schizophrenia; in the large majority of cases it manifests in late teens, early twenties, like many mental illnesses and does involve some flaw in dopamine receptors in the brain. There is a genetic component to it though it is not an iron clad one.
Diet can certainly help and in rare cases might even eliminate most symptoms but those are extremely rare cases that do not extrapolate to the general population, just as there are rare cases of metastatic cancer that turn themselves off.
A ketogenic diet can be very helpful. In cases of non med-responsive or intense epilepsy it works well for almost half those on it, almost eliminating seizures in a significant portion of them. However that leaves many still having seizures and over half not having any clinical response at all. Not sure that's any better record than a lot of the drugs that are demonized.
It has and is being tried on Parkinson's and schizophrenia patients with seemingly far less efficacy.

So while it is understandable how well it should and does work for the direct and relatively simple metabolic problems associated with diabetes, especially Type 2, the indirect and possibly tenuous links between glucose, ketosis and brain chemistry malfunctions in extremely complex and varied diseases like epilepsy, Parkinson's disease and schizophrenia leads me to think their solution and cause for the vast majority are not found in one's intestines.
The human body is almost infinitely complex and there are a great many systems to fail that don't particularly involve and are not cured by what we eat.


After Trump tweeted this

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump: Senator Bob Corker "begged" me to endorse him for re-election in Tennessee. I said "NO" and he dropped out (said he could not win without...
AP’s Julie Pace called Trump out in her tweet:
Julie Pace‏Verified account @jpaceDC
ICYMI: Despite those tweets, Trump is privately encouraging Corker to run again

Julie Pace‏Verified account @jpaceDC :Julie Pace Retweeted Julie Pace
From last month: Trump privately encouraged Corker to run for re-election.

Pace’s evidence? She pointed to this AP article:
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — President Donald Trump is encouraging Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee to run for another term, according to two people familiar with a meeting between the two Republicans at the White House last week.

The people familiar with the discussion declined to be identified because they were not authorized to discuss the conversation publicly. The White House declined comment on Monday.
My tweeted reply to Pace:
Stephen Waters‏ @sbwTweet: Wait, @jpaceDC, your @AP report: “according to two people...” who spoke anonymously off the record. No reason to trust your rumor-mongering


His original comments were well before he announced that he was too chicken to seek reelection.

His reaffirmation* of those comments was close to his announcement, but I don't know the exact order.


*actual word?

Miss Marple the Deplorable



If Lynch can't be prosecuted for perjury because of Gowdy's missing "only," I'd settle for Lynch having to defend herself by saying on the stand that, yeah, she used unauthorized e-mail under an alias, but she wasn't actually lying because the question didn't say "only."


It appears that Corker sniped Trump around Aug 16th.

He then took the coward's route between Sept 11th, when he "declined to comment" on seeking reelection, and Sept 26th, when he formally raised the white flag.

Oct 1st he announced that he stood by his August remarks.



Has Gowdmouth commented on his unleading question?


Jack, I did not see that post, and congratulations to the McGann Mercy Monarchs on a big win!!!! Over Wyandanch, no less. Impressive.


It's football time now for me, but first:


Did you see where I reported that half the Wyandanch team took a knee during the antherm at our Homecoming game? We won 16-0. [my prior post of 24-0 was wishful thinking:]

Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 08, 2017 at 11:32 AM

JiB, where are the adults? I would think the adult position unquestionably should be if you can't show respect, you damn sure can't play.

Old Lurker

Thanks for your comment on Congressional questioning, Clarice. I suspect back in your day, politics was more of a team sport and a line of questioning could be outlined then parceled out to members.

Today we have a bunch of solo practitioners who are not as smart as they think they are.


My tv was still on CBS in my garage. I just walked in on the NFL Today panel lamenting about the WR/QB relationship.

The clip showed a dejected WR shortly after getting overthrown by the QB. He want to the bench and sat by himself.

The panel complained that the QB didn't show good sportsmanship and head over the the WR. "My bad, yo."

Phil Simms talked about his QB/WR camp where he instills a thought in the receivers mind. "Hey, you know there are 10 year olds watching and if you don't show respect out there you are teaching them the wrong thing."

Nobody in the braintrust called NFL Today, including Simms, seemed aware of the parallel Simms just drew to the Flag disrespect.


::changes channel::



Clarice Feldman

OL, I think during the watergate hearings, they let Sam Irwin do the questioning, Never see that any more.

Clarice Feldman

When my husband was chief counsel to the Senate Permanent Investigations Committee he once saw minority counsel pass a note to his boss saying "interrput witness, Cameras rolling."

Congressional hearings need to be reformulated--at present they are no way to get to the truth of anything.

Old Lurker

That was what I was recalling too, C.

Old Lurker

Banning cameras would be a good start.

Senator Bob Corker @SenBobCorker

It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning.


Now, I'm no Trey Gowdy, but it seems that Corked tweeted an insult not a denial.


Old Lurker

Pretty much, TK. Fem.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Well, it looks like that even with Peyton Manning getting his statue and retiring his jersey, some Colts made asses of themselves so Vice President Pence left the game.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP

BREAKING: Quarterback Colin Kaepernick tells CBS he'll stand during national anthem if given chance to play football in NFL again.


henry, great to read your wonderful health news.

I just read KK's generous post, detailing his health journey. I didn't find one bit of it questionable from reading I've done. The connection between gut and brain is real, and basic.
As a matter of fact, I'm mailing to a certain brother whose entire family would benefit from getting their damn act together and eating decent food.
Not just benefit: I think their lives would be transformed. Maybe he'll listen to Kev--they don't to me!

I think I've mentioned before that basically our entire department avoids processed carbs. There's not a person in it w BMI over 25.

And that dementia thing---people are calling it Type 3 diabetes. Some practioners are using glucophage (Metformin) to treat early signs, with fairly good effects.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Vice President Pence‏Verified account @VP 10m10 minutes ago

I left today's Colts game because @POTUS and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem.

BREAKING: Quarterback Colin Kaepernick tells CBS he'll stand during national anthem if given chance to play football in NFL again.

Did he have to watch Goodell take a shower?

Texas Liberty Gal

MM - more details on Colts & VP leaving game please.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Am looking. It was a game with the 49ers and both teams knelt.

Will post as soon as I find it.


The human body is almost infinitely complex and there are a great many systems to fail that don't particularly involve and are not cured by what we eat.

First part true; second part surprisingly not so much, they are finding.
Remember, none of this was examined/known even ten years ago.

My niece had c dif in 2012; not a single GI doc I spoke with, nor hers at the Children's hospital, would consider a fecal transplant for treatment of the recurrence. Now, it's first line of defense for a second episode. Five years.
(It had been used extensively in the 40s and 50s, but no body practicing now was here then.)

Also, something like "schizophrenia" can be used describe a wide variety of behaviors, especially over time, so it's difficult to compare studies. I do defer to you Ig here.
(Interestingly, from research one of my sons did on mental health interventions in Africa, the area he was studying treated the psychotic break as possession---as in "Remember when Tiki was possessed that fall?"and almost no one experienced another. At least over the time span records were available to him.)

If not the food itself, the organisms and their ratios in the gut are being found to be intimately related to a number of diseases, as far as rates of occurrence.
Which is why women whose babies are being delivered by C section are now urged to swab their nipples with their vaginal organisms to get them in to their babies, because of the increased rates of certain diseases in children who were delivered surgically instead of vaginally. Relates to immune function.

Early, early, early this all is---very early. But real.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


VP Pence has a longer explanation in this Twitter thread.

Jim Eagle


The Wyandanch coach didn't condemn it in his interview with the local paper who covered it. IOW's, he didn't once look in their direction and say "stand up, face the flag, put your hand over heart and respect OUR national flag and anthem". But he didn't and said, "kids will be kids". And he wonders why his team of damn fast and big kids are now 0-5.

With that kind of discipline you are easily beat by teams with more exacting discipline.


I read that the Michigan players lowered their heads and locked arms during the anthem. There was also a pre-game video "asking fans to listen to the opinions of the athletes," and to "be open to having conversations about a variety of social justice issues." Karma. Maybe if the Wolverines were more focused on football than "social justice" they might have played better.

And there's that word again, "conversations." Doesn't mean what it seems to mean.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


In this article it says 20 49ers but doesn't mention any Colts.


Did Hillary have to watch Harvey shower to get campaign donations?

Anyone in the MFM ask her?

Posted by: Janet 🚬 | October 08, 2017 at 10:02 AM

Oh, contraire. Harvey, showing the depth of his depravity, watched Curbdive shower and still gave her money. :)

Miss Marple the Deplorable


No Colts knelt, only San Francisco players.

Jim Eagle


did you see the replies to the Pence tweet?

We have a special class of denizens of the 4th ring of hell. I would venture to say that most of them live in deep blue states and smoke a lot of weed, watch too much porn and don't go to church:)


Oh, contraire. Harvey, showing the depth of his depravity, watched Curbdive shower and still gave her money. :)

I hope they don't make a wax and Chia version of this.


I took Chantix briefly and had serious homicidal thoughts, which seemed to be a bad thing since I carry a gun for a living. My doc seemed surprised when I told him. I quit taking it PDQ.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


I quit Chantix too after about 4 days. My then-husband was working overseas and I began to get deeply weird dreams and it scared me, so I quit. I thought it was bad to have strange thoughts like that when there was no one to keep an eye on me.

Janet 🚬

There was also a pre-game video "asking fans to listen to the opinions of the athletes," and to "be open to having conversations about a variety of social justice issues."

Black Lives Matter agitators...YOU are told to listen to them.
Citizens across America - all races - are supposed to put up with blocked roads, interrupted speeches/events, kneeling protests, vandalism, fires, & assault...because, social justice or something.

Apparently Democrat politicians don't want to hear the message & don't want their speeches/events interrupted.

"Harvey Weinstein Urged Clinton Campaign to Silence Sanders’s Black Lives Matter Message" - TheIntercept - https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/277707/

Michelle Obama didn't want Black Lives Matter protesters bothering her either.
"Staffers Worked to Prevent Black Lives Matter From Protesting Michelle Obama Speech" (scroll to #4) - http://freebeacon.com/politics/5-tidbits-clinton-staffers-hacked-emails/

FTA - "The first lady’s staff circulated a CNN article about Black Lives Matter protesting Chicago Mayor Rahm Emmanuel during the United States Conference of Mayors in Washington, D.C., in January. Staff members wanted to avoid the spectacle of protestors at Michelle Obama’s speech at the conference the next day.
“I want to make sure you guys have a heads up on this so that we can ensure no protestors make their way into our event. :)” wrote Chynna Clayton, who works in the first lady’s office."


Which is why women whose babies are being delivered by C section are now urged to swab their nipples with their vaginal organisms to get them in to their babies, because of the increased rates of certain diseases in children who were delivered surgically instead of vaginally. Relates to immune function.

Don't babies typically get a bath after being born? A couple of minutes in the birth canal makes a difference?

I'm all for "good germs" and have been since way before the germophobes took over the conversation. But this seems like a stretch. If vaginal cultures are so great, why not skip the post-natal bath altogether?

Re: diet, IMO it is a Western societal sickness to obsess over food.


TK, 1:26---thread winner!

Strawman Cometh

lol, TK


it is a Western societal sickness to obsess over food.

Porch, I would agree, but a lot of the discussion is an unfortunately necessary corrective to the falsehoods perpetrated by the government in the 60s and 70s with the whole food pyramid, "fat is bad" propaganda that contributed to the obesity epidemic.


yep, coming through the place God made for you to come through makes a world of the difference as far as what bacteria populate your gut.

(And women who deliver at birthing centers do "skip the bath."
But the bath doesn't clean out their nostrils and mouths, and htat's how it gets to their sterile-in-utero gut.)

You really do NOT want to get me going on how totally F'ed up obstetrics in this country is....in no small part due to malpractice.

Haven't done any anesthesia for it in over a quarter century.


It is a western societal sickness to have food to obsess over.

New thread.

Janet 🚬

Re: diet, IMO it is a Western societal sickness to obsess over food.

I agree. It's become a religion to some.
Same with excessive exercise.

Strawman Cometh

As others here have mentioned the guilty pleasure, the Mrs and I have been watching Midsummer Murders on Netflix and, occasionally, on PBS (NC). The opening credits of one episode showed that Honor Blackman was guesting. The Mrs was in another room, when I mentioned this to her she didn't know who that was. Now she is one who can recall all the actors and the names of the characters they played. Words can't express the pleasure I derived from informing her: "Pussy Galore"


So nelson demille voted for trump, his new non Corey offering has some interesting twistsa


It is a western societal sickness to have food to obsess over.

Exactly. It is a response, and a pathological one, to abundance.

Exercise obsession is a pathological response to the lack of manual labor in most people's lives.

anonamom, then swabbing nipples will do no good. Stuff the germs up the babies' noses.

The birthing center people might postpone the bath but they don't skip it altogether.


And the food pyramid is not to blame for obesity. The problem is with portions. And lack of exercise.

Captain Hate

Simms is an asshole and borderline retarded who should've been fired for refusing to say "Redskins" but not saying a GD thing when Chuckie almost killed his son. ESAD, Opie.

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