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Threadkiller


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Clarice Feldman

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-30/dnc-lawyer-scrambles-block-evidence-hidden-laptop-tied-wasserman-schultz

Captain Hate

Re: VDH.

I have reached the stage in my life that kerfuffles, once noted, need not be resolved.

That may be because my remembery doesn’t care to remember the details.

Well stated. Being in a book group is instructive in showing how people can read the same text and reach wildly different but intellectually defendable conclusions.

Jane - not "in"

Conyer's lawyers says it's stress related. I'd bet that it is dementia related.

sbw

George Washington's comments re societal rules and norms

No, I missed it. If you or others have the link, please repeat it.

A biographer of Washington explained the pertinent framework of Virginia of the time by saying that character was a robe children wore until they grew into it. Washington grew into it.

Captain Hate

From Clarice's link:

Wasserman is such a dick-withering shrew of a human being...

I hope Sessions is quietly working on this. That snaggletoothed bitch has to go to jail. Period. Which should be relatively easy because even her own party can't stand her. Probably a lot of others, like Miss Marple's trash representative, too but we know how the GOPe folds like cheap cards in these situations.

Another Bob

So Tillerson is out again?

Miss Marple

There is a sturdy that Tillerson is out, to be replaced by either Pompeo, or Cotton. If Pompeo,Cotton would go to CIA.

It is from the New York Times, so take it as either a leak trap or the Times trying to push him out, unless we get word from the White House.

henry

Miss M, maybe NYT is being flooded with resumes of soon to be ex-State muckety mucks, and is trying to stem the tide.

henry

The Chitown perspective:

For CH:

DWS has the New Hoover File System from the Awans.

Ralph L

DWS goes MAD!

JimNorCal

From TM's lead-in article....CNN still working 24x7 to demonize Wikileaks without following up any of the leaks to see if they are true.

Threadkiller

From the NYT Tillerson story:

[Blah,blah,blah], said the officials, who insisted on anonymity to discuss sensitive deliberations before decisions are announced.
Threadkiller

Hi Jim! Did you see my comments on the last thread?

I would like to keep that dialog over there if possible.

Thanks!

Dave (in MA)

Lileks (Minneapolis Star Tribune writer, on his personal site),

"You’re probably wondering about the Keilllor thing, eh?

It’s fun being in a newsroom when things happen. The joint was on fire today.
[...]
I write a big thing about it, but I’m going to wait a day. Something else might come out. Or we might be talking about the resignation or dismissal of someone else. Wienie Roast 2017 is just getting started.

Dave (in MA)

LOL TK

JimNorCal

VDH: "Voters may say that they find Trump puerile and repellent while in private enjoying that he is as petty as they are"

Thanks, TK and Iggy.
Yeah, I read that and assumed it was directed at "voters", not a snide put-down of "Trump voters".
Sure, I can see it taken either way. And from reviewing some stuff, including daddy's link to the VDH "Angry Readers" web page, VDH is not a joyous celebratory Trump supporter like me. Instead, he's a reluctant "MUCH better than Hillary" supporter of Trump.

I posted an email to VDH :) :) at his "Angry Readers" site to ask his opinion of Trump voters. If I should get a response, I'll pass it along.

henry

Russell Simmons steps aside. https://twitter.com/ABC/status/936244167080062978

How about Franken and Conyers?

jimmyk

From a comment at Althouse: "Marco Rubio wants to raise the child tax credit for the poor with children who otherwise wouldn't be getting a tax reduction which would raise the corporate tax to 22% from the current 20% plan."

Idiot. The point is to reduce the tax burden on people who, you know, actually pay taxes.

And Norquist has pointed out that even the 20% is really more like 25% because of state taxes. So we'd still be well above the rest of the civilized world.

JimNorCal

I still like VDH a lot, though I don't read him much and would be unsurprised if, as someone said back a thread, that VDH has been writing the same column over and over with different words since the election.

I _very_ rarely watch YouTube videos (you get more info/minute by reading IMO) yet I keep getting hooked into VDH video talks and interviews.

I'm about half way through this one and recommend it. A talk on "Trumpism". Hugely long (60+ minutes) but if you start about 13:00 and listen to a couple of minutes you'll know if it's worth listening to more of it or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXJi9-1SUs

Jane - not "in"

Tillerson out in Jan. McCain voting yes on Taxes. Amazing.

henry

Jane, the first of those is likely fake news. Unnamed sources in NYT.

RattlerGator

I arrived at a place where I can chuckle and kid MM for sounding like a groupie, or Maryrose for sounding like Rodney King, or you for defending people with whom you have a bond the others do not have. In return, I know for sure that my friends here cut me the same sort of slack when "there he goes again".

Relax. Enjoy!

Posted by: Old Lurker | November 30, 2017 at 09:08 AM

Beautiful comment, OL.

JimNorCal

TK: Hi Jim! Did you see my comments on the last thread? I would like to keep that dialog over there if possible.
Thanks!

Oops, just finally got to the bottom of this thread.
Anyway, I think I'm done now. :) :)

I'll go see what you posted though.

Captain Hate

DWS has the New Hoover File System from the Awans.

Then let the spilling begin as she bargains for what Club Fed her fat lice-ridden ass gets parked in. This underhanded Stasi bullshit, starting with Queef Rodham pouring through confidential FBI files with fellow turds like Craig Livingston, has got to end now and if it results in thorough gutting of the Uniparty then Hallelujah. McCain dying alone in a jail cell would be a great Christmas present for the entire country.

Dave (in MA)

What's the over/under on how long before Rubio is the DNC Chair?

Miss Marple

Dave,

The way things are popping I am not taking that bet.

Jane - not "in"

Fox business Henry.

Miss Marple

Pelosi says Conyers should resign!!

henry

When you've lost Pelosi...

https://twitter.com/pdmcleod/status/936266347272704005

henry

Jane, as far as I can tell, Fox Business (like NBC etc) was reporting the NYT unsourced story. Unless they named a source... fake.

Captain Hate

Check out the comments on Pow Wow Chow at Amazon.
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rofl:
" I've received nothing but rave reviews from my colleagues after whipping up treats from this cookbook in the faculty lounge kitchen. Admirers of Pow Wow Chow may also enjoy Bow Wow Chow, a Indonesian-influenced cookbook from a former professor now in politics."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2017 09:10 AM (nBBdT)

 narcisoyea

At least one of these events were real:https://mobile.twitter.com/rj_gallagher/status/935920705362837504?p=v

Old Lurker

You wanna have a real fight at JOM???

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5131945/Dogs-really-smarter-cats-research-suggests.html

Buckeye

McCain dying alone in a jail cell would be a great Christmas present for the entire country.

I'll drink to that!

Even better, is early onset rigor mortis today.

James D.

The point is to reduce the tax burden on people who, you know, actually pay taxes.

Well, yes, in a sane and rational world, where the goal of our political leadership was to design policies that increased prosperity.

Old Lurker

James "political leadership was to design policies that increased prosperity."

Oh they have just such a plan, James. Ever followed them around DC in their limos or seen them jet-set around the world on shopping sprees?

James D.

Well, yes, OL. I forgot to add

..."increase prosperity for the citizens who pay their salaries, and from whom their political power is derived."

Sadly, our leaders would like us all to forget that bit.

GUS

Does anyone here actually LIKE Rubio?

James D.

Better question, GUS:

Does anyone anywhere like Rubio?

Captain Hate

I like Dondi's mega hawt wife.

Old Lurker

Like Rubio?

I am a big believer in the Bell Curve accounting for almost everything in life. But that theory does not apply to the set of people who like Rubio because the tail of the Bell Curve simply does not extend far enough to capture them. Can Std Deviations be expressed in exponential form?

GUS

are there 10 Senators that seem to have character? My state has a Conservative business man, in is second term. And a woman who is useless and gay.

Old Lurker

Gus some would say there are some...but I have never heard anyone list as many as 10.

 narcisoyea

I voted for him over pat Murphy, dies that answer the question:http://.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/250558/the-beirut-echo-chamber

Porchlight

But he also gets off gratuitous lines about Trump's style and supporters occasionally that I find, well, gratuitous and seemingly a sop to his NRO tidy toga pals.

I agree and this is a perfect description.

I don't understand how TK can have erroneously stated an opinion about VDH's writing. It's an opinion. Others share it.

Dave (in MA)
David Burge‏ @iowahawkblog
By "icon" I guess what she meant was the trash can icon
 narcisoyea

Previously we had Mel martinet, and the factotum lemieux, I recall I complained to the inc over the former.

GUS

"He is as petty as they are"
I like vdh's writings, but he need not feed the COMMIES by calling "voters" and The President petty. That itself is petty.

 narcisoyea

I give Hanson a lit of leeway, since he has been on the point so often.

Miss Marple

Rubio is one of those guys who sounds good the first few times you hear him, but it's all scripted as Trump effectively demonstrated during the debates.

He had a nice heart-warming background story which fooled a lot of people, including Rush.

I think he is nothing but your mediocre state politician who got lucky. I also think there is shady stuff in his background which has yet to be revealed.

GUS

I don't think he's even close to mediocre. He is often on the right side of issues, but I bet his iq is 20 pts lower than the average here at JOM. He is an empty suit to me.

Miss Marple

Hey, if Pelosi is ditching Conyers, why hadn't McConnell asked Franken to resign?

henry

Someone have a "turtle out of shell" set of pics?

Buckeye

I don't think he's even close to mediocre. He is often on the right side of issues, but I bet his iq is 20 pts lower than the average here at JOM. He is an empty suit to me.

Tendency to lie through his teeth as well.

Appalled

Speaking out of turn for a moment, I am just going to observe that the fervent discussion on whether a pundit is 90% pro-Trump with occasional elitist moments or 100% pro-Trump seems -- just odd. To succeed, Trump is going to need to appeal to people who are not 100% pro-Trump, and appeal to pundits who, very timidly, in a parenthetical or a subordinate clause, introduces a moment of slight dissent or slight disdain. That means allowing your almost fervent supporter his moments of...pettiness.

(And, VDH has a pretty amazing knowledge of the Romans and the Greeks, and brings that to his columns. Do you think somebody like that isn't going to, every now and then, come off as elitist? Really?)

henry

Barton will not seek reelection.

(TX R dude with Carlos Danger problems)

Appalled

Rubio reminds me a lot of Senate Republicans right now. They don't like Trump and they are afraid their voters are going to figure it out.

matt - deplore me if you must

Has anyone contacted Ashley Judd or Madonna or any of the other Pussy Hat marchers for their thoughts on all of this? Where do they stand on Matt Lauer's secret door buzzer? Garrison Keilor's romps in the barn? Russell Simmons' rape culture? What happened to "My Body, My Own?"

I can't wait for Snoop Dogg's opinion.

As to the post last night and daddy's comment, I found my copy of Peter Viereck's "Metapolitics - From Wagner and the German Romantics to Hitler" which discusses this very thing.

Instead of using the prevailing Marxist socioeconomic analysis, Viereck traced the romanticism, vague economic socialism, and revanchism of the Nazis using clasical and traditional ethics, which in the Mid-20th Century was verboten.

He has also written some great stuff on classical conservatism.

He traces Nietzsche, Fichte, Hegel and the Romantics and the smashmouth underlying philosophy of realpolitik and racial destiny based upon the hatred the Germans had for Napoleon.

As far as I know, there are few philosophers who have done this wayback analysis. If ever someone does a meta analysis of our own culture, what will they find?

Metaphysics seems to have been lost to the ages and it so well offers the framework to study the rise and descent of ideas and cultures.

Today you can't get a lot of people to look away from their iPhones for 3 minutes, much less have an intelligent discussion on how we got to where we are and how to proceed.

With AI and virtual reality, it would seem that the Wizard of Oz no longer needs the deception. Instead it has been contracted out to Russian hackers and Katzenberg.

DebinGA

A dementia diagnosis gives Conyers the "I forgot to put on my pants" excuse.

henry

if Elmer Fudd ever wakes up from his nap*, the entire Congress will claim dementia.

* zero risk of that happening.

Extraneus

I agree with JimmyK on this latest Lauer accusation. What's the definition of consent if it doesn't include opening one's blouse upon request, not to mention allowing one's pants to be lowered and so on?

And btw, it's true that senior execs in the business world have such things as button-press door locks and more for security.

Porchlight

Appalled, it's just an observation. A data point. People can weigh it, or not, however they choose. I have enjoyed VDH over the years, I have some of his books, I admire him, yet the things TK points out are things I have myself noticed and I don't happen to like them.

VDH also did participate in the NeverTrump NR issue and that goes on the record too, even if he has mostly changed his tune.

I would still be happy to go see a lecture of his and will continue to read him (as much as I read any pundit these days, which is not often). In the larger scheme of things, VDH is definitely in the good guy section.

matt - deplore me if you must

So now we find that Elliott Spitzer's favorite song is "I wanna be your Dog" from our friends at the New York Post. Apparently he likes to be led around by young hookers on a leash.

I swear the media is reading more and more like the Penthouse Letters section.

 narcisoyea

The hordes new hire is coming along nicely; http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=372750

henry

narciso, might explain why they let the "asians" have their way in England.

Appalled

Porch:

I wonder if TK (or James D) see it the same way.

mad jack

CH: The comments on that one are going to be epic.

Porchlight

They're welcome to see it however they want, Appalled. No one is in lockstep here.

 narcisoyea

From the tablet link, erdbrink is really working toward flathead and robin Wrights level of category error.

Threadkiller

Speaking out of turn for a moment, I am just going to observe that the fervent discussion on whether a pundit is 90% pro-Trump with occasional elitist moments or 100% pro-Trump seems -- just odd

Maybe it seems odd because that isn't what happened.


I wonder if TK (or James D) see it the same way.

Put it in the form of a question so I know the specific "see it" that you are talking about. Then I will will elaborate.

Extraneus

Priscilla Presley says Elvis was determined to impress her parents, despite their age difference

She was 14.

Appalled

TK:

I will ask the question this way. You raised an issue about VDH, and did it with enough force that there was ruffling of feathers. Why did you feel impelled to raise the issue?

Porchlight

Total goalpost moving, Appalled. You're the only one trying to stir up trouble right now.

 narcisoyea

This is the othervpart they leave out:
https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/heshmatalavi/2017/11/30/how-irans-people-suffer-from-regime-belligerence/&refURL=https://t.co/4VvX87QKwo&referrer=https://t.co/4VvX87QKwo#5cacca1c7d49">https://www.forbes.com/sites/heshmatalavi/2017/11/30/how-irans-people-suffer-from-regime-belligerence/&refURL=https://t.co/4VvX87QKwo&referrer=https://t.co/4VvX87QKwo#5cacca1c7d49">https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/heshmatalavi/2017/11/30/how-irans-people-suffer-from-regime-belligerence/&refURL=https://t.co/4VvX87QKwo&referrer=https://t.co/4VvX87QKwo#5cacca1c7d49

jimmyk

In the larger scheme of things, VDH is definitely in the good guy section.

I think that's the bottom line. No one is going to always express himself ideally, but this is more than a glass half empty half full situation. It's a glass 90% full. I'm glad VDH is on our side, he does much more good than harm.

The same goes for Trump. Some things he does or says, or wants to do, are inadvisable IMO, but it's a package deal, and on balance it's a great package.

Miss Marple

I think we need a change of subject.

Has Schumer said anything about Franken? Chuckle seems to be hiding.

matt - deplore me if you must

OL;

Standard Deviations is now a box to be checked on the Democratic Party membership application.

 narcisoyea

Carlos slims put it on the back of the arts section:


https://mobile.twitter.com/DamasiusPugnax/status/936198003941093377

henry

RIP Gomer Pyle.

Extraneus

Chuckle seems to be hiding.

Talk about a guy who's probably a major pervert. Could you imagine what he thinks about 5 seconds before whatever Jane mentioned the other day?

Appalled

Porch:

Maybe I am responding to bait -- but I am curious about the answer. I solemnly promise not to respond to what I get (unless it's personally abusive) and troll the thread with it.

henry

End game of perv reveal is 2020 year of women:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/24133/watch-michigan-democrats-insane-anti-penis-ryan-saavedra

 narcisoyea

Nothing to see there

http://jammiewf.com/2017/climate-of-hate-update-new-york-man-threatens-to-kill-gop-congressman-and-his-family-over-net-neutrality

Extraneus

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/11/the-new-al-franken.php

During the time I watched, Al Franken questioned Azar (at the 2:43 mark of the video at this link). He looked terrible, a few years older than the last time I saw him (and why not?).

Franken didn’t sound good, either. He struggled to explain something as basic as the subsidy logic of the Affordable Care Act. He seemed sleepy and looked distracted. At times, he had trouble finding his words. His heart wasn’t in it. This was a tame, subdued performance.

Porchlight

Ok, Appalled.

Sorry to hear about Jim Nabors. He was from MM's neck of the woods, wasn't he? RIP, Gomer.

henry

As far as replacing Paul Ryan, vote for me, I'm delinquent on child support. That's the Dem version of a "regular guy."

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Crockagawea
I knew there was a nickname I'd forgotten besides Lieawatha.
Posted by: Ralph L |

The Yokuts are one of the largest California tribes and have a humongous casino just outside Fresno CA.

One brother from there always refers to Warren as "Crazy Nag". Works for me.

Old Lurker

THAT was funny, Matt.

Miss Marple

Jim Nabotes has passed away in Hawaii. Age 87.

boris

"It's a glass 90% full. I'm glad VDH is on our side, he does much more good than harm.

The same goes for Trump"

Yes, and same goes for TK.

Extraneus

From narc's link:

According to the U.S. Attorney’s Office, Angelo allegedly called the Washington, D.C., office of Congressman John Katko, R-Camillus, on Oct. 17 and left a threatening voicemail that included a death threat to Katko and his family if the congressman didn’t support net neutrality.

Katko represents New York’s 24th District, which includes all of Wayne County.

Angelo made an initial appearance Wednesday afternoon in U.S. District Court. He is being held pending a detention hearing Friday.

Authorities alleged the message said, “Listen Mr. Katko, if you support net neutrality, I will support you. But if you don’t support net neutrality, I will find you and your family and I will kill … you … all. Do you understand?”

This is how the left rolls. Don’t vote their way and they want you dead.

The message allegedly continued, ” ‘I will literally find all … of … you and your progeny and t- (sic) just wipe you from the face of the Earth. Net neutrality is more important than the defense of the United States. Net neutrality is more important than free speech. Net neutrality is more important than health care. Net neutrality is literally the basis of the new society. That even if you don’t understand, how important it is, net neutrality is literally the basis of the new … free … society. So if you don’t support it, I am willing to lay down my li-‘ (recording ends).”
Threadkiller

Appalled, that was pretty silly.

You wondered how I may "see it" and you won't present the specifics of what "it" may be.

Weird.

Threadkiller

Thanks, Boris.

Account Deleted

Steyn for the win!

What makes my cheeks itch is that in this evolving "matriarchy" where all men can find to do is sexually harass, rape, and murder, will men be able to criticize the element in the female population-- from whence Fauxcahontas comes--- for their crass racist deeds which are nothing more than self-aggrandizing ploys to advance their careers?

I mean, who are we of such flawed genetic material to believe that we are capable of even a scintilla of moral credibility.

Lizzy needs to be wrapped on the back of her head with a tire iron.

Appalled

TK:

It =

I would still be happy to go see a lecture of his and will continue to read him (as much as I read any pundit these days, which is not often). In the larger scheme of things, VDH is definitely in the good guy section.

Agree or Disagree?

Miss Marple

Porch light, I believe he was from Alabama.

He's associated with my state because he sang "Back Home Again in Indiana" every year at the opening of the Indy 500.

He performed at the track every year until his health failed a few years ago. He was a regular at many 500. Festival events here and was much loved. He was a really nice guy and the city will probably work with the Speedway to figure out a way to honor him this May.

henry

WSJ asked Trump about axing T Rex. Got: “He’s here—Rex is here,” President Trump said Thursday after a reporter asked whether he wants Mr. Tillerson to remain on the job

Porchlight

In the change of subject department - as my dad was driving us back to the Ft. Lauderdale airport this past Sunday, and conversation turned to golf, my daughter asked which president is considered to be the best golfer. I said it's Trump, no question, head and shoulders ahead of the pack.

My dad had a story from the old GE days. Seems Jack Welch played golf with Bill Clinton once, and a particular GE buddy of my dad's was one of the foursome. Vernon Jordan was also there.

My dad's buddy reported that Clinton's "official" score was in the 80s, but that his real score was at least 100. The word on the street is that he regularly cheated at golf. I know you are all as shocked as I was to hear that.

Threadkiller

I agree.

I covered that in the previous thread. I wasn't sure if there was new ground you were breaking.

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