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November 29, 2017

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matt - deplore me if you must

This afternoon I attended a conference on "The Unconscious and the Law". Four professors from USC and elsewhere, all women, discussed a theory that argues that psychotherapy should have a larger place in our legal system.

Some very interesting stuff, but I have a hard time reconciling an art such as psychiatry and Freudian analysis with finding an objective truth.

Forensic psychiatry and therapy have some pretty clear rules on analyzing a patient/inmate's mind and trying to assess their condition and in some cases whether they are safe to be released into the general population. California has turned its entire remaining psychiatric facilities over to forensic cases. No more beds for long term mental illness that is not of a criminal nature.

Some very interesting discussion of how analysis could help inform the mental state of individuals beyond just criminal intent. One brought up the Menendez case of 20 years ago and how the brothers argued that th parental abuse was so severe that they were driven to horrific murder.

Another discussed a case of a parenticide the root cause of which was the "perfection" of the parents in all things.

Another commenter noted that in Jewish law, confession is not considered valid because, accordingly, the person confessing is by definition not in their right mind for confessing.

I really, really wanted to point out that the Jews invented guilt and the Catholics perfected it, but kept my mouth shut.

Somehow the discussion got onto the current sexual harassment scandal. The responses were measured, but they themselves don't realize the logical mess that they have created for themselves.

One argued that HR departments have a wide brief to stop harassment of all kinds. However, when it is senior management this argument falls apart.

What happens when the legal system and social sciences and arts accept relativism and Foucault's re-definitions of sexuality and madness? How do these reconcile with a rational judgement system, which is what the law is?

Across cultures, C.S. Lewis pointed out the Tao, the universal truths and agreed upon ethical systems of the great faiths. The concepts of right and wrong are rooted in faith tradition.

So how, in a world of relativism, can one define this most difficult of human conditions? How does the law and society reconcile each to his/her own with agreed upon limits of conduct?

There is a power exchange that is not discussed. Young actresses know that schhtupping powerful men (and women these days) is career enhancing. In other cases the identity of sexual predators is clouded, as in the UVA case or Mattress Girl. "He said - she said" is another factor.

Then there are the clear cut cases, which are probably the vast majority. A friend's aunt is a retired Navy Admiral (female) and my friend was warned off a career in the Navy because of harassment.

And so does a culture address these issues honorably and equitably? These academics didn't, I thought, really have answers.

As they say, get three psychiatrists in a room and you'll get 6 opinions. So that confusion enters into any analysis.

Put on top of this the phony War on Women with all of its lies and deceptions and what, in fact, is reality?

Their great lions are being hunted down one by one with little or no contemplation of the meaning or consequences of this mess.

The philosophical basis for mental health treatment is that severe mental illnesses are biological. The psychological is another component. And lastly, many in treatment and care realize that the spiritual component is tremendously important.

We really need to have a serious discussion in this country of the very nature of our conduct towards one another. The levels of anger and hostility are at all time highs because of political differences and propaganda. Very few people are looking at the holistic mess we're in.

Judeo-Christian ethics provided most of the answers, but what happens when that underlying belief system is destroyed?

Anything goes? How can we tolerate the contradictions of human relations when some of us do not have humane relations?

I don't see even our faith leaders addressing this.


GUS

I was waiting for my beloved SON, Junior at MARQUETTE HIGH, to finish his volunteer work at a group home for mentally challenged adults, this very evening.
I went to the local library, one block away, and I picked up the MILWAUKEE URINAL NEWS RAG..from today.
A LIBTARD was waxing/pontificating on how WE need a law to REQUIRE, deceased deer, from the 9 day hunt in WISCONSIN, be covered/disguised/hidden on vehicles, coming back home from the HUNT. THE LIBTARD RAG PRINTED THIS CRAP.
For a split second, I considered a reply then I RECOGNIZED, this is who the LEFT has/have become. FUCKING KOOOOOOKS. NUTS.

Ralph L

That Stephonapolous is short
He claims he motorboated that woman by accident. Just walked up too close and had an instinctive response to not being able to see or breathe.

Threadkiller

I've never seen a VDH YouTube.

lyle, not C. S. Lewis

some: none of these

I just wish I were half as smart and educated as VDH. He's educated me vastly. I'm in his debt for the elucidation of the concepts of hubris and nemesis from Greek mythology. That these two metaphysical concepts still brutally apply today is just fascinating.

GUS

JimNorCal. You and I are TRUMP supporters.
Do any of the MFM or any other EXPLANATIONS of who TRUMP supporters are.....seem to be respectful and inclusive of YOU and ME??
I don't waste my time debating this crap.
The working ASSUMPTION always starts and ends, with TRUMP being unworthy of our support.
RODHAM is a vapid pile of shit. LIBS don't see it that way. HOW SURPRISING.

matt - deplore me if you must

I am starting a fainting couch business. I think it will be Yuge in places like Ann Arbor and Berkeley, Palo Alto, Cambridge and elsewhere.

We could call it Castro Faintbertible. Think of the tie-ins! What are the commies going to do? Sue us?

lyle, not C. S. Lewis

"Unctuousness and the law"

Clarice Feldman

Gus, when I grew up in Wisconsin it was impossible to see cars without dead deer strapped to them in hunting season.

Miss Marple

,Matt,

What a thought-provoking comment. And one worth really considering.

JimNorCal

GUS, sure you're right.
The MSM, the Dems, the GOPe (McCain, dismissively: "Hobbits"), the professoriate, the celebs, the pro athletes, gov't workers....they all despise us.

I was curious to see if I could find any actual comments by VDH about the value, or lack of value, to be found in Trump supporters.
I didn't. It's just an intellectual exploration, not of practical value I think. But it piques my curiosity.

Catsmeat

Matt--so true and thank you. But loads of people aren't very brave--including me, I am sorry to report.

daddy

I enjoyed this:

Victor Davis Hanson: From An Angry Reader (11/27/2017)

matt - deplore me if you must

Amazing scanning the major media and so little mention of the real nature of Keilor/Lauer et al's transgressions.

GUS

Matt. The MFM are COMMIES. The "show" must go on.

Threadkiller

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
2h
.@Theresa_May, don’t focus on me, focus on the destructive Radical Islamic Terrorism that is taking place within the United Kingdom. We are doing just fine!

Clarice Feldman

A friend suggests Sessions confirmation was predicated on a promise by him to appoint Rosenstein his No. 2 and recuse himself. He thinks this confirms his suspicions: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/potus-trump-goes-scorched-earth-calls-deep-state-name/

Any thoughts?

Miss Marple

Think I will head to bed. Nytol!

GUS

JimNorCal..I agree with you completely.

Janeprobably about 10 minutes after getting there

Daddy, that was fabulous!

ThreadkiIler

I enjoyed it as well, daddy. Thanks for linking.

lyle, not Chet Atkins

Now that GUS is here I have to admit I listening to one of my favorite Chet Atkins CDs. It's staggering how awesome he still is and how his technique still is heard with huge numbers of guitarists.

Dave (in MA)

It was quite enjoyable to break the Keillor news to my brother today. He told me on 11-9-16 that "you people are ruining the country" and then paid something like $80 to see him this year. I asked him if he'd heard about the latest celebrity to lose his job for sex improprieties and he said, "Yeah, I know. Matt Lauer", whereupon I was able to drop the Wobegon hammer.
BOOM
MAGA

lyle, not Chet Atkins

Chet's 3 minute version of Ray Charles I Got a Woman is epic.

GUS

Lyle, Chet Atkins....was...a.....COUNTRY GENTLEMAN!!!

 narcisoyea

You know karma strikes like a scorpion, NBC deepsixed furrows expose, which when republished lead to lauer,qed

lyle, not Chet Atkins

👊 GUS!

 narcisoyea

Remember this guy:
http://.newsweek.com/who-noah-oppenheim-matt-lauer-nbc-news-president-726515

GUS

Good to see you Lyle!

GUS

DAVE in the category of TOUCHE, you should respond to your LIBTARD bro..(and I've got one too) with,
AND YOU PEOPLE are SEXUAL PREDATOR COMMIES.

GUS

I am watching JUMP THE SHARK clown boy CHRIS STIREWALT, inform me, that..."if the PEOPLE of MASSACHUSETTES, wanted TED THE LYIN' OF THE SENATE, that's THEIR BIZNESS.
BULLSHIT.....UTTER BULLSHIT. Ted Kennedy was not accused 40 years after he "supposedly" tried to DATE or TOUCH, Mary Jo Kopechne.
Miss Kopechne was KILLED by KENNEDY, and KENNEDY SWAM AWAY. That is not in question
He was comparing Ted Kennedy to ROY MOORE.

Dave (in MA)

He's a product of his environment, GUS.

I've worked at the same place as him for > 15 years and any time I go out for lunch with any co-worker and they drive, the local NPR station is playing when they turn the key.

narciso

I tried to listen to npr in the 90s, this was a time when they narrated segments from the village voice, that's when Wayne Barrett and tomaski were in that publication. Along with William bastone, who was later founded the smoking gun.

GUS

Dave, that's a problem in America. The MARXISTS, the ALYNSKY'S, the BILL AYERS', and the FUKWAD BARACK OBAMA'S, have intercepted the ENVIRONMENT.
It sucks.
GUS JR. Is my son. He is NOT PART of the SHIT STEW, nor will he ever be.
MAGA.

Dave (in MA)

I listened to NPR back during the Gulf War period, because it was straight news coverage and not opinion back then, at least the parts I listened to. Shortly thereafter, I couldn't stomach it anymore.

lyle, un hombre, nada mas

Thanks, bro

daddy

Matt,

Dennis Pragar in Hour 2 I think made a marvelous comment that I wish I could have transcribed. Wondering why so many of these recent ugly harassment situations were coming out on men of the Left and not so much men of the Right, he thought much of it has to do with the huge decline of personal beliefs in Christianity and Judaism, because of the following reason--- Those Judeo-Christian beliefs mandate that an individual man be aware of his own personal moral failings and struggle to deal with them since he see's those failings in himself and has to fight hard and control himself in order to not act on those urges. On the other hand, the Left has removed Morality from a personal matter to one of a Meta-Matter. As long as you agree with the Meta Morality narrative that the Left demands (i.e: Women's right's, abortion, etc) that is all that matters in the moral realm, so no personal examination of one's personal moral life any longer carries any validity, and thus the personal moral battles that used to go on within an individual in controlling his personal moral behavior no longer exist. The Meta-Morality Narrative has eliminated that inner moral governor.

He said it much better and simple than that. I think for Christmas I my ask for a Pragertopia subscription so I can start transcribing him again. Please Santa, I been a pretty good boy:)

Clarice Feldman

Nytol--I hope none of you are going to be asking me to vouch for your character--(kidding)..Love you all.

GUS

Clarice, I have ALL of the RECORDS from CAMP SIDNEY COHEN.
You were a perfect little Angel, even way back when.
Smooooch my doll.

Dave (in MA)

I can vouch that JOM has a bunch of characters.

exdemocrat

bingo, daddy. not only is that true as a consequence, it is also a large part of the leftism allure.

exdemocrat

... and i speak (confess?) from personal experience.

Gentlejim

Dave is correct.

GUS

The LEFTIST allure is COMPLETELY about being LILY WHITE, clean and virtuous, all the while the LEADER/HANDLERS are MARXIST BASTARDS. The KIDDIES buy the WITHOUT SIN WONDERS, and the HANDLERS, gain another soul/fool. IT SHALL NOT STAND.

GUS

Dave and Gentlejim. Think about those that you choose to associate with. What creates ,that friendship or bond???? Crazy assed anti-American Commie foolish bullshit ideology???

I think not.

Dave (in MA)

Howie Carr got a disappointingly brief segment on Carlson tonight. He only managed to get in a few shots at Fauxcahontas and nothing about Perv-O-Rama.

Dave (in MA)

http://pocahontas.com

Dave (in MA)

David Burge‏@iowahawkblog

The Today Show has a long sordid history of hosts engaging in inappropriate workplace behavior #JFredMuggs

9:19 AM - 29 Nov 2017

daddy

Watching Tucker on replay and just saw this 2006 short clip of a hot mike with video feed of Matt Lauer, which tells us that it is total bullshit that NBC didn't know about Lauer, and it's also interesting since 2006 is the year of the hot-mike Billy Bush tape:

Click here to Tucker's show tonight on Youtube and start at about 1 minute 30 seconds into the show.

GUS

Dave,,,,one of US, is J FRED MUGGS.
one OF US.

Gentlejim

GUS,
Shitbirds of that type don't remain near my circle for very long.

Dave,
What I want know know is where are J Fred's hands? :)

GUS

AGAIN MY PAL DAVE. E. LIES A BITCH WARREN, is as fucking CUCKOO FOR INDIAN COCOA PUFFS as possible.
Donald J TRUMP is setting up the show down. How many completely BAT SHIT CRAZY FUX, are there???
Warren is a CLOWN. A COMMIE, LYING, PHONY, ANGRY, CLOWN. President Donald Trump is a gift from GOD.
He isn't a SAINT, he's more like a PROPHET.
WARREN, SANDERS and some RACE BASED CLOWN...PROBABLY HARRIS....are the COMMIE DREAM TEAM. Good luck FAUXCAHONTAS. Your beat down is coming.

JimNorCal

From daddy's link to VDH responding to angry letters is this description of Trump voters:

"Those who voted for Trump were not just people “in the old steel mill towns and coal mining towns” but half the country that felt the progressive project under Obama had bankrupted the treasury, left the world in a terrible state abroad, divided the nation along racial lines, and stalled the economy (first in over 80 years not to achieve 3% economic growth) in a way not seen since the Hoover administration. Incidentally, I’ve been to Appalachia and steel mill towns and discovered that those who have been the losers of globalization complain a lot less about their tragedies than do the winners of globalization their psychodramas and neuroses."

Ralph L

The 9/29/17 VDH letter answer is also worth reading. "Donald Trump is not my hero; did I write that? He is a corrective to the Obama years. Few others were willing to take up that role." There's a lot more to it, pointing out the differences.

JimNorCal

In this YouTube there is some interesting discussion of Americans (not specifically of "Trump Supporters") by VDH.
Start at 13:00 and listen till you get tired.... LOL.
A fascinating story embedded here is a description of how Trump, when getting out of his limo, often doesn't go in to his office but instead walks over to nearby construction workers to chat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXJi9-1SUs

GUS

Very nice JimNorCal. I have no problem with VDH, but, then again, I'm my own Conservative Thinker.
His take on OBAMA is not as harsh as mine. Obama is/was NOT, eeerrrrrrrrrrrrr, PROGRESSIVE. Progressive is a euphemism for SYPHYLLIS.
Obama had/HAS, ZERO, abilities/capabilites. Obama was not merely an OPPONENT to US and AMERICAN VALUES/WAY OF LIFE. Obama is/was a FUCKING DISGRACE and a LYING BAG OF SHIT. Barack Obama is a disgusting dysfunctional CREATION of the MARXIST LEFT. Barack Obama is GARBAGE. I mean this not as VITRIOL rather as my CONSIDERED OPINION of a COMPLETE FRAUD. Allowing this motherfucking CLOWN to be PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES, is the FARTHEST and BIGGEST achievement of the COMMUNIST MOVEMENT. It is ASTOUNDING that more people do not recognize THIS.

The Infamous Ignatz

Like TK I have noted VDH's occasional cracks about Trump supporters.
Perhaps his last "petty as they are" comment was supposed to be ironic or tongue in cheek as may his other ones.
OTOH, who cares?

The Infamous Ignatz

I'm too tired to provide an antidote to the wretched catalog of pictures on this thread, but would like to note it has included among others the gag inducing Katie Couric, Geraldo in what can only be described as a crime against humanity, several pictures of mutant humonculus Garrison Keillor, putrid Raoul Gutierrez and Mr Rogers flipping me off.

This used to be a decent family blog with pictures of scantily clad beauties. What has happened to us? We're better than this.

simply stupid

So the male stars of the MSM are dropping like flies because they dropped their flies.

Gentlejim

Iggy is right, as usual. Where are the pics of babes on bikes? Guys on bikes are ok for the ladies as long as they don't include Jawn Effin' Kerry.

daddy

...the wretched catalog of pictures on this thread...This used to be a decent family blog with pictures of scantily clad beauties. What has happened to us?

Iggy,

In today's thread I was simply posting, letter by letter, a picture to illustrate each letter of that Canadian 'LGGBDTTTIQQAAP' Mandatory Sensitivity Training for Teachers. I am shocked you did not catch on to my plan, especially since I am only halfway though the portfolio, (wait'll I get to the Q's!!!) and sadly, there is no letter "N" for "Normal" in this deviant alphabet of Sensitivity Training which would permit me to post for instance the 2017 MISS Universe Winner from South Africa:
and certainly it would be very insensitive of me to post a pic of the Miss Canada contestant

so sorry, but I cannot do that, so you'll just have to wait and suffer thru "Sensitivity Training" like the rest of us:(

Hi Frau!

Account Deleted

From comments following Clarice's link re Trump and DOJ:


President Trump started letting it fly the day he left on his Asian tour. You think that cut and slashing of Clinton and Bush Arab bag men was just all in a Saudi days work as usual? Think. Remember President Trump gave Saudi King Salman his blessing to do the deed. That deed was cutting The Clinton's & Bush's money pipe line. The DC scene will get hotter and hotter and hotter till soon I say soon as end of year or 1st of next year a lot of politico's in DC will be arrested and it will be so big and the names that get busted will be world news 24/7 for months.

I told people many months ago that President Trump ran for office of POTUS to literally tear down the globalists in DC and their money men and get America back from the brink of the abyss!
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JimNorCal

Iggy, where is the "petty" comment from?

"Like TK I have noted VDH's occasional cracks about Trump supporters.
Perhaps his last "petty as they are" comment was supposed to be ironic or tongue in cheek as may his other ones."

From the responses to Angry Readers, it's clear that VDH has strong reservations about Pres Trump. That might extend to misgivings about, well, people like me and you as well.

Yet he's willing to take quite a ration of (ahem!) in voicing support for Trump.

Dave (in MA)

Twitter user @Imperator_Rex3--familiar to some here--has had his account SHITCANNED for using the word "retard" in a Thomas Wictor thread in which a leftist also used the word, though the leftist's account remains active.

Dave (in MA)

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/status/936128693625282560

jim nj

WOW! I stopped in early today and have had trouble keeping up with the speed of the thread and the many comments.

My sense of the chronology was the hit on Hollywood, the false hit on Judge Moore and now the hits on the news industry and Dem pols.

If this is war, than we are taking out all of theirs, without them taking out any of ours.

Other than the Judge. And it doesn't look like they'll take him out either with these new revelations. If I were him, I would tie his opponent to the corrupt Dems and the immoral news organizations.

Have Republicans and conservatives so vetted themselves that no one is vulnerable anymore? I can't quite imagine so. Which leads me to wonder if somebody on our side has pierced the Dems and the media's OODA Loop?

From wiki: The phrase OODA loop refers to the decision cycle of observe, orient, decide, and act, developed by military strategist and USAF Colonel John Boyd. Boyd applied the concept to the combat operations process, often at the strategic level in military operations. It is now also often applied to understand commercial operations and learning processes.

I've read that some people here think that Trump knows stuff. I'm agnostic on that, but it's clear that someone, some thing, or several someones or somethings, are war-gaming this. They either know, are instigating, or following this so closely that they are not giving our opponents any breathing room.

Gentlejim

Whoever is war-gaming things, I hope they continue. It is extremely difficult to go on the offensive when you are constantly defending.
It's great to see this change in attitude following decades of the right willingly playing the punching bag.
MAGA

jim nj

The OODA loop refers to the decision cycle of observe, orient, decide, and act. You have to know that your enemy is doing something similar, or at least trying to do something similar, so you need to get inside your enemy's OODA loop, so that you are the aggressor, rather than the defender.

The way to do that is to observe faster and more accurately, orient (position yourself faster and better given the above), decide (based upon what you know and how you have oriented), and strike before your enemy realizes what's happening and can build an effective defense against your next move.

It's an iterative process. After a strike you can observe and orient faster then your enemy. So your decision and action come faster. That's what it's like to be inside your enemy's OODA Loop. He's never deciding, only reacting.

The normal thing for Dems to do here is band together, circle the wagons, wait out the attacks, and wait until the Cavalry (THE PRESS) come to their rescue.

But the press is asking about Conyers and Franken. And the Dems covering for the two have blunted their attack on Judge Moore.

daddy

I'm going to be honest--I am getting tired of this "winning."

Posted by: anonamom

Ha! :)

Gentlejim

Jim nj,
ISTM the progtards are stuck on orient. They're stuck in an OO loop. :)

Anyway... pfft... to progtards

jim nj


Whoever is war-gaming things, I hope they continue. It is extremely difficult to go on the offensive when you are constantly defending. {CLIP]

Posted by: Gentlejim

Exactly. Republicans/Conservatives are always on the back-foot from the last attack before the media launches another attack.

Somehow it's working the other way. Deplorables are sitting on the sidelines cheering, while priests are taken down by their acolytes.

It's bizarre, we deplorables are ready to take on all comers, yet we're siting on the sidelines unchallenged. Apparently, we need expend no energy to take down the aristocracy, because they will do it to themselves.

I repeated a thought above, but no deporables are KIA, WIA, or missing in action.

Apparently, all we need to do right now is provide skepticism, and like a plague it will infect, and inoculate, the body politic.

Liberals are watching their house torn apart piece by piece.

So what do we do for our liberal friends, "Do you need a hand removing all that debris to find the truth", or "told ya so."

Janet 🚬

Love daddy's Prager comment @ 11:32.

Reminds me of one of our neighbor kids. His only guide as to right/wrong or good/evil was 'the law'.
Was an action/activity 'against the law'?
All behavior was okay as long as it wasn't 'against the law'.

TV, movies, videos,& music showed him what behaviors society thought were acceptable.

He was SO lost & sad. The lifestyle presented to him as fun & cool brought him misery. Sex, drinking, drugs, flaunting material wealth,...

We'd have talks about how he CAN do certain things, but I would hope he would choose NOT to. God loves him & his life matters.


daddy

On FOX's "Mornings with Maria Bartiromo they are nicknaming Marco Rubio, Marco "Schumer", because they believe, especially Dagan McDowell, that Marco has some last minute scheme to do some mad Tax ideas that will clobber individuals and he has decided he wants to pump the planned Corporate Tax Reduction from 20 percent up to 22%.

So Little Marco taking a lot of incoming this morning.

JimNorCal

btw, it would be great to get occasional reports from Reddit by those savvy enough to navigate there.

anonamom

So true. All I did was offer mild criticism of a single facet of VDH's opinions and then all hell broke loose.

No, that is not what you did TK. Not at all.
You name called, labelled HIM, and you were wrong. That's why what resulted, resulted.

Go back and read your post that triggered it. I did, to be sure I had taken it correctly.

Which is why I love this place. It is all about the accuracy. If mistakes get made, they get corrected and in general, expeditiouly

daddy

Does the pot and the kettle get any blacker than this?

Lauer will not be missed by some of his co-workers. Former MSNBC host Keith Olbermann tweeted: “Matt Lauer was remorsely vindictive and tyrannical to everyone at NBC News and management repeatedly enabled him and buried the issue.”

daddy

NEW THREAD!!!

JohnH

Nemesis and Hubris are two of my favorite Greek words. Hubris, overweened arrogance, the pride that destroys. Nemesis, swift winged avenger for those guilty of hubris. A combined concept I put right up there with the Gods of the Copybook Headings.

In our day and age we do not spend enough time thinking about the concepts that should assist in directing our lives. To our detriment as a society we focus on fast foods, talking heads, thirty second sound bites and immediate gratification. When we lost our religion we lost shame as a motivating factor @nd we lost our moral compass. We believe when we are told that men can be women and vice versa. We fail to identify the Twoheys in the world.

anonamom

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ThreadkiIler

Go back and read your post that triggered it. I did, to be sure I had taken it correctly.

Oh, I did read it. Did you read it thoroughly?

I took a shot at VDH, quoted him, and clearly pointed out what part of the quote bothered me.

So far Iggy is the only one who directly addressed my post. Everyone else lit their pants on fire and told me how amazing VDH is.

ThreadkiIler

and you were wrong

Not according to the many people who agreed with the sentiment of my initial post.

Did you go back and tally those up?

JimNorCal

TK: I didn't see where you offered evidence. You posted your opinion, then a meme photo with the word WRONG. You made a comment that you had a specific case to support you but were choosing not to make the effort to post it.
Did I miss something?
"I took a shot at VDH, quoted him"

Threadkiller

You missed my 1st comment on the topic.

Threadkiller

You made a comment that you had a specific case to support you but were choosing not to make the effort to post it.

Would you mind quoting where I said this? I will clarify whatever quote you find.

Threadkiller

I'll check back later, I guess.

JimNorCal

I see your quote now.
You posted "Voters may say that they find Trump puerile and repellent while in private enjoying that he is as petty as they are and hits back at those who long ago needed a smack."
I take that as referring to "voters", not specifically an insult to petty "Trump voters".

I said "You made a comment that you had a specific case to support you but ..."
I was wrong. I checked back and see that I misread one of your posts.
I think it was here: "I really don't wish to go down a baptismal path to cleanse my soul of one observation I have made about him."
Clearly refers to the current discussion, not what I somehow contorted it into.

Threadkiller

Thanks, Jim.

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