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November 29, 2017

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Extraneus
it seems like current epidemic of #SexHarassmentAllegations may be criminalizing courtship & conflating it w predation.

Valid point, but they started it.

Marlene

We're watching Howie Carr on Newsmax. We are bad people,we're laughing too much. Someone just put Mike Barnacle in the perv pool. Howie said,"oh,psycho Joe's sidekick."

Extraneus

Lauer:

As the co-host of NBC’s “Today,” Matt Lauer once gave a colleague a sex toy as a present. It included an explicit note about how he wanted to use it on her, which left her mortified.

On another day, he summoned a different female employee to his office, and then dropped his pants, showing her his penis. After the employee declined to do anything, visibly shaken, he reprimanded her for not engaging in a sexual act.

He would sometimes quiz female producers about who they’d slept with, offering to trade names. And he loved to engage in a crass quiz game with men and women in the office: “f—, marry, or kill,” in which he would identify the female co-hosts that he’d most like to sleep with.

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/matt-lauer-accused-sexual-harassment-multiple-women-1202625959/

emzed

Like Jane, I've known VDH for a decade, and he is as down to earth as she described--totally ChikFilA as vs. DC beltway sophisticates. I'm not going to argue that he supported Trump from day one, but no one has been clearer IMO as to where we are now with respect to the never-Trumpers and those of us who support the President. As VDH wrote recently,

"Again, Trump is a symptom of widespread disgust, not the head of a carefully crafted ideological movement with a checklist of issues. What created him was furor at a smug, entrenched Republican political establishment. In a bout of virtue-signaling, this cadre had deliberately conflated opposition to illegal immigration with supposedly racist resistance to legal immigration, while damning principled conservatives as “nativist” and “xenophobes” simply for wanting existing laws enforced. It had preached free-market economics without worry for the losers of globalization, while many of its megaphones cashed in on the government-corporate-media nexus. And its prior presidents and presidential candidates had been reduced to mushy punching bags, strangely bragging about their own virtue in not responding to invective while their own supporters and defenders were left to be smeared and defamed. Worse yet, they caricatured the base voters who used to defend them while they themselves went on to defend, even if indirectly, their erstwhile critics."

I'm sorry if many of you think he engages in NR type snark of the sort that Trump just "isn't one of our sort, dear" or a suggestion that he even thinks in terms of the "unwashed masses"--I just haven't heard it from him, or seen it in his writings,
And I'm leaving it at that.

daddy

Howie Carr now reading aloud Geraldo's tweet just linked by Ext:

Geraldo Rivera‏Verified account
@GeraldoRivera
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Sad about @MLauer great guy, highly skilled & empathetic w guests & a real gentleman to my family & me. News is a flirty business & it seems like current epidemic of #SexHarassmentAllegations may be criminalizing courtship & conflating it w predation. What about #GarrisonKeillor?

Caller just called in getting a laugh from Howie Carr, since he said, "My bet is on CNN's Chris Homo."

Extraneus

Insty says, "What is best in life, Donald?"

Account Deleted

All this over-efforting by celebrity males to cop the pootie such as the pic of Jerry Rivers, remind me of middle schoolers after they sprout their first chin hair or begin to see the divide between their pecs.

"Look at me!" It's arrested development. Textbook.

And that they engage in it risking their careers and reputations as if they're going to be protected at all costs.

Charlie Rose? What exactly did Chaz think was his superior redeeming quality which warranted

1) showing off his carcass to subservient females; and,

2)assuming his employers would shell out limitless legal resources to defend his behavior?

daddy

As the co-host of NBC’s “Today,” Matt Lauer once gave a colleague a sex toy as a present. It included an explicit note about how he wanted to use it on her, which left her mortified.
On another day, he summoned a different female employee to his office, and then dropped his pants, showing her his penis. After the employee declined to do anything, visibly shaken, he reprimanded her for not engaging in a sexual act.

But I thought we just heard from the top suits at NBC this morning that "Lack added that it was the first complaint against Lauer in his more than two decades with the network." What the hey?

Dave (in MA)

Warren Wilhelm has been picked
Jawn Effin' Kerry has been picked

Extraneus

Here’s All the Money Garrison Keillor Has Given to Democrats

The piece, which called the notion that Franken should resign "absurd," made no mention of the $9,700 Keillor gave to Franken's two senate campaigns or the $10,000 he gave to Franken's Midwest Values PAC, which make up a small percentage of the hundreds of thousands of dollars Keillor has supplied Democratic candidates and groups with since 1992.

Other recipients of Keillor's money include the party's last three presidential nominees—former President Barack Obama got $7,200, Hillary Clinton got $3,450, and John Kerry got $750. (Democrat Martin O'Malley got $1,250 in 2015 as well.)

Keillor also headlined a fundraiser for Clinton in 2015.

Keillor has also contributed to all the main Democratic committees, including $93,150 to the Democratic National Committee, $51,360 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, and $56,616 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

Among active members of the U.S. Senate to receive contributions from Keillor other than Franken are Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.), Jeanne Shaheen (D., N.H.), Patty Murray (D., Wash.), Tammy Baldwin (D., Wisc.), Heidi Heitkamp (D., N.D.), Jon Tester (D., Mont.), Claire McCaskill (D., Mo.), Dick Durbin (D., Ill.), Tom Udall (D., N.M.), Ron Wyden (D., Ore.), and Amy Klobuchar (D., Minn.).

Keillor's contributions have continued in 2017. Recipients this cycle include Democratic House minority leader Nancy Pelosi, the DCCC, the DNC, and Franken's Minnesota colleague Amy Klobuchar, who has already received $4,700 for her 2018 reelection effort from Keillor.

JimNorCal

re: MPR stopping re-runs and renaming the new host's continuing show:

I'll offer a trade to the libs. They can get back Prairie Home if we can get back Song Of The South. I've been missing Zip-A-Dee-Do-Dah something fierce all these years...

Extraneus

Journalists Tie Matt Lauer’s Sexual Misconduct Firing to His Treatment of Clinton During 2016 Campaign

Tsk, tsk. Won't ever see that kind of thing again, at least not until after the next civil war.

Dave (in MA)

Late picks,

Shemp
Mr. Perfectly Creased Pant
J. Podesta (quick pick)
Soros (how much Viagra can there be?)
Al "Shart" Roker

daddy

Some caller just nominated David Brooks:

Threadkiller

I'm sorry if many of you think he engages in NR type snark...

I don't "think" he engages in NR type snark, I know he engages in his own clever softshoe NeverTrumpin' version of snark.

Robin, 10 Square Miles...yadda, yadda

I too am a big fan of VDH, having listened to him interviewed many times on the Ricochet podcast. You have to hear him talk about the ravages of the Central American culture on his idyllic piece of of inherited Central CA farmland - the dead pitbulls from dog fighting toss into ditches, the dismal ghetto-like living situations that local planning boards completely ignore. He operates from both despair and pragmatism, and I’ve only ever sensed a real sympathy for people dealing with the realities of illegal immigration.

He also lost a daughter to a sudden illness’s couple of years ago, and since has seemed weighed down by grief. My sense is that he passes judgment on no one but those who cannot see what is right in front of them, particularly the Bill Krystal’s of the world.

Dave (in MA)

Closing out the Perv-O-Rama,

Andy Vandy Pooper
Fareed Zakharia
The Centerfold (perhaps w/ a well-dressed Samoan)
The Windy City Ballerina
Martha Stewart
Bob Costas (quick pick)
Lorne Michaels
Ralph Maddow
Skip Gates

Marlene

Perv pool update: Chuck Todd,Shep Smith,Al Roker,Anderson Cooper,Fareed Zakaria,Rahm Emmanuel,Bob Costas,Lorne Michaels (will SNL do a Lauer skit?)

Dave (in MA)

I've been so distracted by JOM today that I forgot to go out at lunch time and replace my burned-out headlight.

Marlene

Robin,I agree about VDH. I think he has great sorrow for what has happened to California.

daddy

I've learned a lot from all these recent revelations so I think we need a new term for a behavior that appears to be "arising" as these revelations pop up. I'm speaking of the behavior of the male pulling his schlong out and proudly displaying it to the subservient female (i.e.:

Bill Clinton
Harvey Weinstein
Louis CK
Anthony Weiner
Matt Lauer
Charlie Rose(?)

I don't think I can include Congressman Conyers in that group since I think he kept his underwear on, but I'm open to clarification on that point, and I would welcome any other men you can think of who appear to have an unstoppable urge to display their manliness to the misses.

Darwin I believe called it Male Sexual Display but surely we can come up with a more gripping term---"Junkophoelics" perhaps?

And yes I am willing to make Geraldo an honorary member of that group.

Skoot

Moore up 5 (JMC Analytics), Lauer in the ground. What a day. Wonder who's going to light the tree tonight?

Dave (in MA)

A few Keillor-related selections from James Lileks from years past. You'll have to ctrl-F for Keillor to jump over the unrelated content.

http://lileks.com/bleats/archive/08/0808/081808.html
http://lileks.com/bleats/archive/08/1008/102008.html
http://lileks.com/bleats/archive/17/0517/051017.html

Dave (in MA)

Hah, I thought "Moore up 5" meant Sloppy was leading the Perv poll for a second.

exdemocrat

LOL. Mr. Wictor continues his single-handed visceration of the Roy Moore hitjob:

https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/935960028502036482

Account Deleted

""Again, Trump is a symptom of widespread disgust, not the head of a carefully crafted ideological movement with a checklist of issues. "

Really?

And who was the last elected US president that was the head of a carefully crafted ideological movement with a checklist of issues?

These aren't backhanded criticisms of VDH. I've sat with him many times and listened to him speak many times. There is nothing objectionable about him. Just saying.

I'm wondering why his clarification about what Trump is and is not is necessary.

My sense is that people who focus on ideology and a checklist of issues seldom win the presidency.

The way that our economy is surging (we'll have a clearer picture around State of the Onion time in January) I think POTUS is hitting the long ball on the most important "issue" to most real-life Americans. But the Lyin Swine Media isn't going to frame that in a way anywhere near the troof.

POTUS is threatening the money-laundering operations of the Deep State and their DNC camouflage.

I wonder if the surge in identity theft and credit card infils will drop once POTUS reigns in the Consumer Farce Protection bureau?

How much less opium does the CIA have to broker for the Deep State if the Consumer Cons had been allowed to ramp up their "bureau" to high gear operating levels?

The Stimulus/Porkulus farce financed labor unions and kept teachers employed without any Congressional appropriation or oversight. The Con Protection Bureau would put DemagogueOhantas in charge of an ever larger slush/laundering fund than 8 years of Porkulus.

No ideology there. And the only issue I see in all of that is "pay to play", graft,blackmail, insider trading for insiders with friends in Congress.... you name it.

maryrose

Senate vote to begin discussion on tax bill being voted on now.

Account Deleted

Dave---> Martha Stewart ???? LOL Do tell.

))))))(((((((

Bob Costas.... I want him to die in a house fire. Scandal would be too kind of an exit from public life. Yes. I hate that man.

Clarice Feldman

I love VDH. I don't expect him to agree with me on everything, but I regard him as honest and his views down to earth and well-considered.

daddy

I love VDH. His history books are great, (Carnage and Culture, etc) and there is no better listening than when he appears on Dennis Prager's Show and those 2 NRO stalwarts run the gamut in casual yet serious chats over all Human History, focusing especially on the accomplishments of Western Civilization as founded on the brilliance of the Greeks and the morality and wisdom of Judeo-Christianity.

Nobody is perfect, but who we else got out there so marvelous in the big picture than those 2? I'd maybe suggest Charles Murray and his brilliant "Human Accomplishment," but he's a very distant second. Lee Harris is mighty fine oftentimes, but I wouldn't trade VDH for the both of them. Plus the Greatest photoshop in human history was one Insty posted 20 years ago (which I can't find grrrr) with VDH's face added to this Hanson Album cover:

Threadkiller

It-Out-ophiles?

https://youtu.be/hpwJE5DEk7U

"Maybe it needed air?"

Hahahaha!

henry

Banana boys.

Don't give those creeps a medical sounding name.

Dave (in MA)

Dave---> Martha Stewart ???? LOL Do tell.
People want to pick someone they think has a chance but that would be unlikely to be picked by someone else, plus Howie Carr has long said he had a thing for her and there's a tradition of his callers giving him a hard time about everything.

Threadkiller

How about calling it "locker rooming?"

henry

CNN just canned Teddy Davis, senior producer for Jake Tapper.

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For the record, I'm not a fan of any public intellectual--- especially intellectuals who avail themselves to public accolades and criticism in popular media (yes, i know they publish for scholarly purposes, but I don't lump that in as the same thing as NRO or some other political rag.).

I've met Dr. Hanson at various Hoover Institution whoop-dee-dooz and have always found him to be polite, interested and interesting simultaneously, and a perfect gentleman.

He has my respect. But I reserve fanhood for unpaid athletes like my wife, a triathlete at 54 turning in times that shame the 18-27 year old age bracket. I am her biggest fan and she has my respect.

I knew one scholar-scientist at ND who held patents on more than 15 chemical compounds which, had they not been invented, the face of the Western world would be much different than it is today because his discoveries saved others about 40 years had he not done what he did when he did it.

He scorned anything that would lay claim to him as an asset. Fame can do that to a man.

He worked at ND for 1 penny a semester because it was not kosher to work for free. His income went into a trust managed for him by special legal beagles.

His work was everything. And the only thing close to fandom that he availed himself to was the fear in his students and the respect of his peers in the research world.

(He didn't give a damn for the Board of Trustees, the "icons" of the University faculty ---especially in the 'liberal arts').

Just sayin.

Account Deleted

So what's gonna happen tomorrow? LOL

Good gracious.

Haven't heard Moola Mueller's name in a while.

henry

Conyers status now "won't seek reelection."

One more defcon level between that and "fleeing the country"

henry

The left was trashing Mueller yesterday.

Jane - not "in"

The liberals say that 14 women alleged that they were molested/harassed by Trump. Anyone know anything about that?

Robin, VDH lost his daughter the day before he was scheduled to be on an NR cruise. I was supposed to have dinner with him on day one and Jack had to come to the table and tell us he wouldn't be there, and why. I felt so sad for him. I believe since then he has gotten married and seems to be happy. He's a wonderful man.

I also think that no matter how much you like Trump this idea that he can never be criticized for anything is as stupid as the rampant love of Obama. Hopefully Trump is not surrounded by that kind of sycophant.

Jane - not "in"

Oh and the best time to be with VDH is when we went to Normandy. We had several historians on board and there was no better way to see it.

ThreadkilIer

I also think that no matter how much you like Trump this idea that he can never be criticized for anything is as stupid as the rampant love of Obama.

Who suggested that?

Robin, 10 Square Miles...yadda, yadda

Oh I think that VDH, were it not for his honest toil on the farm, had the potential to be an arrogant son of a gun. But it seems that he has wisely elected to continue his work on the farm as well as his studies, which makes him a far more interesting and well-rounded academic.

Living around folks who toil in academics for a living makes one rather cynical of intellectuals.

mad jack

i hate costas as well but as a Providence College fan as a teen his story about Marvin Barnes and the quirks of America's time zones still cracks me up. back in the ABA days marvin played for St Louis and costas was travelling secrectary for the team. stl was playing the pacers and because of the Indiana time zone quirk they were going to land in indy "before" they left stl. marvin refused to get on the plane because he "wasn't getting on no f'n time machine". I'm sure the copious amounts of coke marvin was purported to being doing at the time had nothing to do with his paranoia.

JimNorCal

kk quoting VDH: "Again, Trump is a symptom of widespread disgust, not the head of a carefully crafted ideological movement with a checklist of issues."

Seems pretty unobjectionable.
Some claim Trump is a deceiver who falsely appeals to populists but ultimately will betray them because he doesn't have deep roots for his beliefs.

In the Repub primaries, a total outsider (Trump) won.
A disliked semi/newly-insider (Cruz, "not a single friend or endorsement in the Senate") came in second.
All the carefully crafted GOPe candidates with their checklists of issues were asterisks by comparison. And especially on a vote-per-dollar-spent basis.

ThreadkiIIer

What is really stupid about that strawman, jane, is that this whole dialog is based on whether or not VDH can be criticized.

Apparently the people that surround him don't allow it.

LOL

maryrose

Corker and Flake both voted to start debate just like I said they would on the tax bill.

boris

No matter how much you like VDH this idea that he can never be criticized for anything is as stupid as the rampant love of Obama. Hopefully VDH is not surrounded by that kind of sycophant.

Robin, 10 Square Miles...yadda, yadda

Jane,

I’m glad to hear that he has remarried and is happy. I love to listen to his Classicist podcast. Have you read his new book about WW2?

Robin, 10 Square Miles...yadda, yadda

Of course he can be criticized. I just don’t think this criticism is accurate.

jim nj

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-29/wild-bitcoin-ride-erases-2-200-in-five-hours-after-record-rally

Bitcoin gained another $1,000 in a day to break $11,000.00. Then fell 20% in 90 minutes.

JimNorCal

"No matter how much you like VDH this idea that he can never be criticized for anything is as stupid as the rampant love of Obama. Hopefully VDH is not surrounded by that kind of sycophant."

No disagreement.
I think the topic in discussion was "is VDH dismissive/elitest/condescending towards Trump supporters?" Some say yes, others haven't detected that attitude.

daddy

So what's gonna happen tomorrow? LOL

I hope Manaforte's wife sues Mueller and Weinstein for groping. I heard yesterday that on the midnight "No Knock" raid they frisked her in her nightgown when they dragged her out of bed.

Janet 🚬

I yearn for some of the MFM women to be, at least, taken down a peg.
Andrea Mitchell
Martha Raddatz

Robin, 10 Square Miles...yadda, yadda

I don’t know if any of you are podcasts fans, but I just listened to this discussion between Dave Rubin and Johnny C. Taylor (Thurgood Marshall College Fund) and it was so thoughtful and relevant and positive that I want to share it far and wide. Dave Rubin is a gay comedian who turned away from the Democrats recently and has started speaking on college campuses all over the country about free speech. He creates a setting for good conversations, and this one is particularly good as it touches on the black community, higher ed, and the future of public discourse. I highly recommend it.

https://art19.com/shows/the-rubin-report/episodes/635275b5-06cf-4e68-a98a-480923daac12

daddy

Chafetz on with Charles Payne says that McCain will not vote for the Budget Bill. That's certainly my opinion.

Robin, 10 Square Miles...yadda, yadda

I’m worried I’ll go to hell if I say I hate McCain.

Stephanie

Can you sue for sexual harassment by proxy, daddy?

Skoot

I guess skinny fat Al will be leading the carols tonight. Good times.

And if Lauer committed a crime in a Sochi hotel room, I'm pretty sure it was recorded and Vlad has a copy.

henry

Which foot is McCain's boot on today?

Stephanie

I don’t want McCain to diaf. I want him to burn for eons. Slowly. After first getting caught in a chipper and lingering for a few days in the woods before the critters start on him.

Does that make me a bad person?

lyle, from hell

Then I'm already condemned, Robin...

daddy

Oh and the best time to be with VDH is when we went to Normandy.

Wow, Jane.

I am enormously envious. What an experience and what an invaluable mental and emotional feast that must have been.

Miss Marple

The Hill is reporting 2 more complaints about Lauer hours after firing him.

Could be people who finally felt like someone would listen, or it could be opportunists looking for a share of the settlement.

daddy

Can you sue for sexual harassment by proxy, daddy?

Don't know why not Steph, especially after viewing that Geraldo photo---ick! If that don't give you the willies, somethings seriously wrong.

ThreadkiIIer

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/11/29/2-americans-who-bared-butts-at-bangkok-temples-are-arrested.html

Mentally ill fruitcakes.

Janet 🚬

I agree with Robin about The Rubin Report.

Lots of interesting discussions - not every episode - but many.
Rubin did a presentation for Prager University - Why I Left The Left

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVQ8vrGA_8

daddy

Interesting to see Charles Payne discuss Lauer and all these harassment assaults and claims. We know Charles had to take time off for similar charges against himself, but he's rolling pretty well with his panel of 3 women.

Catsmeat

Catching up (as always): here's Daniel Greenfield, who is great, pointing out the absurdities of NPR's announcement of its internal cannings: "That's NPR reporting on moves made by top NPR people who are trying to avoid discussing their own sexual harassment scandals. By the time you read this, for all we know, the acting senior news vice president and the guy reporting the story might also be gone."

-peter--How I laughed, barked really. But Captain Kangaroo, Mr. Greenjeans, and Mr. Moose are all colossal innocents (in a world in which cosmic retribution is enacted in a storm of ping pong balls, there could be no real sin, as in most of childhood, The Bad Seed withstanding.

--JiB--these guy jokes are most appreciated here, as I havent heard many of these mildly ribald things, not being of course a guy--it's a glimpse into another more-or-less innocent world.

--Jane, when DID VDH say history begin? Did he go with the classical choice (Herodotus) or place it earlier and (thus necessarily) elsewhere?

I would really like Stephanapoulos to be next--what a dweeb.

Beasts of England

VDH is often one of my favorite writers, but he's taken some unnecessary jabs at Trump's supporters. That's where I draw the line. People who are willing to vote for the 'R' are our allies - you don't aim in their direction. It's that simple.

sbw

Catsmeat, even ancient Assyrian trade journals impressed in clay were history.

When people make a choice to mark something down it creates history.

 narcisoyea

Maybe archbishop will comment:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MsJulieLenarz/status/935958579819044864?p=v

daddy

--JiB--these guy jokes are most appreciated here, as I havent heard many of these mildly ribald things, not being of course a guy--it's a glimpse into another more-or-less innocent world.

Catsmeat, this one always tickled me, since it's the very famous ancient British hillside carving of "The Rude Man," wittily played upon by some guys using the next field over showing Homer Simpson playing horseshoes with his donut.

IIRC, I think the original etched figure was thought to have been done back in Roman British times, and was thought to be an image of Hercules. I suspect Jane Austen was aware of it from her time spent in Bath.

Catsmeat

Sbw--I agree, that's the marker--write it down, history starts. Don't write it down, lost or oral history or myth, but not history. That's one of the reasons the OT carries so much authority.

Extraneus

I loved the Captain, Mr. Greenjeans and Mr. Moose, Cats.

sbw

I learn much that is worthwhile from VDH. I don’t pay attention to that which VDH says that I don’t consider worthwhile.

By and large, he is remarkable in so many ways. He is welcome at my dinner table anytime.

As far as reservation about some Trump supporters, I feel the same way, but I am glad for their votes. I just get torqued when people consider Trump a demogogic populist and those who support him, mindless.

Captain Hate

Mentally ill fruitcakes.

It's not like there aren't plenty of places in Bangkok where that would be standard haberdashery. I don't blame Thailand for wanting them gone.

Who I'd like to be next: Colbert.

Beasts of England

'As far as reservation about some Trump supporters, I feel the same way...'

I'm a little surprised by that statement.

Extraneus

I second the question.

Jane - not "in"

"Have you read his new book about WW2?"

No, but I should.

" What an experience and what an invaluable mental and emotional feast that must have been."

It was simply amazing.

ThreadkiIIer

I'm a little surprised by that statement.

Think of Hannity and his droolers, BOE.

They are coat-tailing bums.

daddy

Started reading this a few years back and it was decent, tho' not as good as I was hoping, so I quit about half way through: A History of Histories: Epics, Chronicles, and Inquiries from Herodotus and Thucydides to the Twentieth Century

I remain much more excited about finding out what is hidden in the many thousands of baked clay cuneiform texts, dug up but still undeciphered in the ancient Libraries of the Mesopotamian cities of the fertile crescent from @ 3000 BC. It wasn't all Gilgamesh, thank goodness.

Robin, 10 square....

Golly, Beasts, are you saying all Trump supporters are pure as the driven snow? Hell no, but I’m glad for their votes.

Jack is Back!

catsmeat, et. al.

I very much doubt Stephie is a pervert of the sort we are learning about now. He is more a deeb and lightweight insider. I see him often when we go to Bridgehampton for brunch at Pierre's. He just doesn't look to me like someone who even knows how get it on the side. BTW, he is shorter than his wife. Jockey like.

sbw

Beasts, SOME Trump supporters, not all.

Likewise, there are some people who oppose Trump for legitimate reasons.

Jane - not "in"

"I just get torqued when people consider Trump a demogogic populist and those who support him, mindless."

Ditto.

maryrose

I agree with Jane, Emzed and others who support VDH.
People who have met him seem to capture him as a person in a unique way. Also agree that not being able to criticize or question President Teump’s is not a good thing.

maryrose

Actions should be included.

Robin, 10 square....

Janet, that Prager U video is how I found Rubin too. He has no love for Trump, but he is a fierce advocate for free speech. His conversation with Jordan Peterson (prof from Unof Toronto) was also very good. He is a gem.

Beasts of England

It's a damned war. I love - without reservation - anyone willing to fight for our side. I'm not sure how more succinct I can be.

Beasts of England

'Also agree that not being able to criticize or question President Teump’s is not a good thing.'

False premise - facts not in evidence.

maryrose

I like Hannity and he is correct about so many abuses of power during Obama’s term.

Jane - not "in"

I love Trump, I really love him. But I am not of the opinion that he can do no wrong - anymore than I believe my best friend can do no wrong. I think he is both brilliant and at times stupid, just like any human being. But I refuse to latch on to the notion that he is always 20 steps ahead (sometimes he is, and often he is not). He's human like everyone else - including VDH.

Beasts of England

'But I am not of the opinion that he can do no wrong...'

And neither is anyone else.

Jack is Back!

VDH is a classistis and as such his opinion will be form by his understanding and interpretation of the Greeks and Romans of that time which is what i call "the basis of logic and thinking". He may not be perfect but he has a mind I could only wish on our people in Congress.

maryrose

Facts in evidence on this very blog anytime a negative word is uttered wrt something President Trump has said or done.
I also notice no comment on the fact that Flake and Corker voted the right way today.
All that kerfuffle a few weeks ago - gone - Poof or Pftt!

maryrose

BOE:
MM might be an exception to that but I could be wrong.

Jack is Back!

jane,

Well stated. He is human and everyone wants him to be something else either a God or a devil.

lyle, from hell

I love VDH and always read his columns but I must admit he essentially has written the same piece--elegantly, nevertheless--over and over since the Trumpocalypse 2016.

Appalled

sbw:

I do think Trump is a populist demagogue. I don't think his supporters are mindless. Can you live with that?

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