I understand that Senate candidate Roy Moore's core supporters don't exactly hang on every word of Republican establishment pinata Mitch McConnell but this is still a big deal:
McConnell Calls for Roy Moore to Drop Out of Senate Race
WASHINGTON — Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, said Monday that Roy S. Moore, the Republican Senate candidate in Alabama, “should step aside” and that he believes the women who have accused Mr. Moore of sexual misconduct when they were teenagers.
“I believe the women, yes,” Mr. McConnell said at a news conference in Louisville.
Mr. McConnell also said that encouraging a write-in candidate to run in the Dec. 12 special election is “an option we’re looking at.”
Mr. Moore, a judge who was twice removed from the state’s high court, first for refusing to remove the Ten Commandments from the Supreme Court grounds, then for refusing to accept gay marriage, responded defiantly. He showed no sign of leaving the race ahead of Alabama’s Dec. 12 special election date.
How do you say "First" in Turtlese?
Posted by: Jim Eagle | November 13, 2017 at 01:34 PM
From the last thread. ;)
The Hill @thehill
5m
NEW POLL: Roy Moore holds 10-point lead over Democrat Doug Jones in Alabama Senate race
Posted by: henry | November 13, 2017 at 01:37 PM
"Leave No Taxpayer Behind
November 8, 2017 Press Release
TO: Republican Colleagues
FM: Tom McClintock
RE: NO TAXPAYER LEFT BEHIND: JUST LOWER THE RATES
DT: November 8, 2017
Dear Colleague:
According to Arthur Laffer and Martin Feldstein, the business side of the tax reform will produce $5 trillion of growth over the next decade. MAGA!
But we’re getting wrapped around the axle on the personal income tax side. We’ve had several unpleasant surprises this week: the 46% bubble bracket and now the JCT report that, over time, many in the middle class may end up paying higher income taxes.
Yes, the average taxpayer will pay less – but this raises the mystery of the 6-foot man who drowned in a pond whose average depth was 5-feet. It is now clear that some families will see tax increases – and more over time.
As desirable as tax simplification is, I wonder if it is simply a bridge too far given the timetable we’re on, the political environment we’re in and the complexities of the tax code that are certain to continue to yield unpleasant and unintended consequences.
I urge us to consider leaving the personal income tax structure intact, but using the budget authority instead to provide a permanent uniform across-the-board reduction in the rates for ALL tax brackets. Our back-of-the-envelope estimate is that using the current framework, we can reduce tax brackets by a full one percent, averaging a $600 tax savings for joint filers. (By including repeal of the individual mandate, we can reduce all tax brackets by 1.35 percent, averaging about $800 for joint filers.)
The advantages:
• It leaves no taxpayer behind. Whatever your circumstances, you can be sure your overall tax bill will go down.
• By reducing ALL marginal rates, it will increase the economic growth potential of the reform. Productivity depends on how much your NEXT dollar is taxed.
• It can be easily communicated without the need for retro-active applicability.
• It will remove a vast proportion of opposition we’re seeing among various business groups that imperils the entire bill."
Posted by: Threadkiller | November 13, 2017 at 01:38 PM
Willowed
Why isn't GQ hero Colin Kaepernick interceding to get those UCLA dimwits released? Don't those black lives matter? Plus he's got a lot of time on his hands.
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone | November 13, 2017 at 01:40 PM
I hope they like kungpao chicken.
The lifezette piece is instructive.
Posted by: narcisoyea | November 13, 2017 at 01:43 PM
Add veruca salt to the equation
http://.lifezette.com/polizette/lindsey-graham-calling-moore-step-aside-one-week-went-nj-testify-dem-bob-menendez
Posted by: narcisoyea | November 13, 2017 at 01:48 PM
Oh my. now model trains are racist. The show is a good one. I'm sure I could create something worse in no time when I set up may holiday loop (now with 72" turns).
Posted by: henry | November 13, 2017 at 01:49 PM
Captain Hate,
Exactly. The White House is in contact with Xi about getting them home. This is ironic since at least two are on record as despising Trump.
Why isn't Obama helping, too, by the way? Oh, I forgot, Chinese think he's a buffoon.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 01:49 PM
Talk to the hand:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/12/trump-prepared-to-expel-special-interest-from-judicial-confirmation-process
Posted by: narcisoyea | November 13, 2017 at 01:52 PM
Trump will prevail and then will be accused of collusion, not with the Russians, but it was the Chinese all along. They will correctly point out that Obama wouldn't had to be able to do release without promising the Chinese something.
What will the left say Trump offered? To build a resort on one of those islands in the South China Sea?
You just know they will find a way to criticize.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | November 13, 2017 at 01:52 PM
I must have missed Mitch McConnell's press conference on how Bob Menendez should resign.
Posted by: Porchlight | November 13, 2017 at 01:53 PM
Multiple choice.
Consider carefully.
A pity they can't spell "who's", though.
Posted by: JimNorCal | November 13, 2017 at 01:56 PM
"I hope they like kungpao chicken.
More likely, rancid rice with fresh cockroach.
Posted by: Davod | November 13, 2017 at 01:57 PM
Jack,
Of course they will. Right now they probably have a whole crew thinking of ways to spin it to sound sinister.
I sometimes think the democrat strategy is to make us regret winning elections because they proceed to drive us nuts with ridiculous claims and character assassinations.
I hope those sealed indictments include a few of these people. Ben Rhodes comes to mind.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 01:59 PM
Heh
Posted by: JimNorCal | November 13, 2017 at 02:00 PM
In other news, bataclan was two years ago.
Posted by: narcisoyea | November 13, 2017 at 02:02 PM
How dumb are those UCLA idiots to not think that they might stand out in that setting?
We know that McRINO and Katshit have accepted the filthy money of Soros. Is there any doubt that McTurtle has too?
Posted by: Captain Hate | November 13, 2017 at 02:02 PM
MM,
Ben Rhodes? But who will keep the Russia story alive on Twitter, if Ben is indicted?
Posted by: Jim Eagle | November 13, 2017 at 02:07 PM
None in my view:
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/11/10/donald-trump-has-unleashed-the-saudi-arabia-we-always-wanted-and-feared
Posted by: narcisoyea | November 13, 2017 at 02:07 PM
All of the above, jnc@1:56?
Posted by: jimmyk on iPhone | November 13, 2017 at 02:08 PM
Jack,
That's why. He shows up on my Twitter feed all the time and he's just position. Plus his brother is at CBS so getting him arrested would probably get his brother too.
I am sick of these people.
Oh, here's Chris Stirewalt talking gloom and doom on Dana Perino's chirpy show. And her NEXT guest is Karl Rove.
They might as well call that show the Bush Hour.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 02:13 PM
He's just POISON.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 02:18 PM
In China, going gangsta gets you in jail. Now I hear Kaerpernick is joining up on human rights with Linda Sarsour. That a's a match.
Posted by: matt, deplore me if you must | November 13, 2017 at 02:24 PM
narciso: "Bataclan was two years ago."
Maybe a month afterwards, I saw a report that hostages were not just being killed. They was torture and cruelty, such as knives thrust into private parts.
The report said authorities held back on telling the truth to avoid giving motivation for pay back attacks on Muslims.
Was that report true or fake news? Not that killing all those teenagers isn't evil enough by itself.
Posted by: JimNorCal | November 13, 2017 at 02:26 PM
jimmyk: 2:08
That was my guess too :) :)
Posted by: JimNorCal | November 13, 2017 at 02:39 PM
I'm posting Subotai's comment again in reply to Mitch McConnell:
Subotai Bahadur:
I have no knowledge of whether Judge Moore actually did something 3 decades ago that might or might not merit criticism today.
I do know that all his accusers work for those who are my sworn enemies and who want to enslave me and my family.
I do know that the media has proved that they care only to help the Sinister Movement enslave me and my family.
I do know that Mitch McConnell, and the GOPe acted simultaneously with those of the Sinister Movement and are probably allied with them in the accusations. And that McConnell, et. al. would rather the Democrats won the seat than have anyone who might work for the country in that office. I know that they are allied with those who want to enslave me and my family.
I cannot know what is in Judge Moore's heart. But I know what is in the hearts of his enemies. But Judge Moore has the right enemies. That will have to do.
Subotai Bahadur
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 02:53 PM
I am gobsmacked that McConnell came out and said he believed the woman. Do we need any more proof that he was involved in setting up Judge Moore?? And I'm so disappointed in Mike Lee coming out and judging Moore to be guilty. I hope Judge Moore hangs in there and trounces the Democrat.
Posted by: Texas Liberty Gal | November 13, 2017 at 02:56 PM
Narciso's 01:48: Lindsey Graham Calls for Roy Moore to Step Aside but Defends Bob Menendez
The Democratic senator is accused of sex with underage prostitutes, but Graham told a New Jersey court that he's an honorable man
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 02:57 PM
Steve Hayward of PL, reports back from traveling and unleashes a nifty pun that I had not seen before:
"Did a couple of panels and speeches marking the one-year anniversary of the election result that saved us from the reign of Rodham and Gomorrah."
Posted by: JimNorCal | November 13, 2017 at 02:57 PM
JimNorCal,
I saw reports like that, too. I don't think they've been officially confirmed.
This interview with the singer of the band that was playing that night is really eye-opening.
http://takimag.com/article/surrendering_to_death_gavin_mcinnes/print#axzz49eM2V9Nj
The singer, Jesse Hughes, got into a lot of trouble for this interview and the band was not allowed to play the reopening of the Bataclan and was dropped from a bunch of festivals afterwards. Hughes supports Trump, btw.
Posted by: Porchlight | November 13, 2017 at 02:59 PM
Judge Roy Moore @MooreSenate
The person who should step aside is @SenateMajLdr Mitch McConnell. He has failed conservatives and must be replaced. #DrainTheSwamp
11:40 AM - Nov 13, 2017
Posted by: Porchlight | November 13, 2017 at 03:00 PM
daddy,
That is my position as well.
I don't even find Judge Moore appealing as a candidate. I would have preferred Strange.
HOWEVER, not my state, not my business. What I do know is that we cannot let the democrats torpedo our candidates at the last minute with unproven charges from 40 years ago, no matter how convincing the stories the alleged victims now tell.
I did see an interesting comment on Twitter this morning, in which a guy theorized that the GOPe assumedTrump would support Moore as an anti--establishment candidate, but Trump outfoxed them and supported Strange. They were going to hang Moore around Trump's neck (hence the reappearance of Gloria Allred).
Bannon didn't listen to Trump about his suspicions, so Bannon is stuck with Moore.
McConnell with his ham-handed demands is angering Alabamans.
I heard on Perino's show that some in the White House are exploring whether Jeff Sessions would accept being a write-in candidate. That smells like Art of the Deal to me. LOL!
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 03:03 PM
What this whole McConnell - Moore episode tells me is that Mitch isn't truly committed to the Trump agenda and especially Tax reform. Why be inspector cleuseau and pre-judge Moore unless you don't want the 2 vote majority and a vote for tax reform.
Doesn't make political sense unless you want to sabatoge your own POTUS and party.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | November 13, 2017 at 03:07 PM
Didn't they spend about 20 million in the primary against Moore about 500 k a day,
Session was the underdog candidate twenty some years, he had been slandered by the solon and leaky goons like podesta ten years before that.
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Posted by: Momto2 | November 13, 2017 at 03:14 PM
Steve Forbes on FOX Business:
FORBES: The House Republicans must be secretly trying to make Nancy Pelosi the next Speaker. When you do away with the Medical Deduction, do away with the Interest Deduction for Students, do away with the Orphan Deduction for people who want to adopt children, all those good things, you're against all of those, it's crazy.
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 03:15 PM
Agree, Jack.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
The people of Alabama aren't going to be swayed by the media or the GOP establishment.
It would be hilarious if Sessions decided to run as a thorn in McConnell's side. I don't even know if that is possible.
Meanwhile, these jerks reveal themselves more every day, and I think the tax bill is EXACTLY why this is happening.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 03:15 PM
Wasn't Steve Forbes Mr. Flat Tax file your income taxes on a postcard?
Posted by: Extraneus | November 13, 2017 at 03:18 PM
I take it back, JimNorCal - maybe those reports from the Bataclan were more or less confirmed:
http://nypost.com/2016/07/15/horrifying-details-of-the-bataclan-theatre-massacre-revealed/
Posted by: Porchlight | November 13, 2017 at 03:19 PM
I still don't understand why we have to have all of this tinkering. Reduce all income taxes by whatever per cent works as a reduction AFTER the taxes owed are calculated, plus drop the corporate to 20% and let the overseas money come back with a small tax.
There. How hard is that?
I am not interested in the Senate's deferring the corporate tax reduction for an entire year (which will cause the market to crash) NOR am I interested in Paul Ryan's Captain Billy's Whiz Bag type machinations which no doubt will mess everything up.
Ryan is supposed to have a town hall this evening to explain his plan. On Fox. I hope they have some real questioners and not ringers.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 03:22 PM
so let me see if I have the McTurtle position right:
Unsubstantiated allegations of inappropriate (but legal at the time) sexual conduct from one accuser 38 years ago, are grounds for Roy Moore to lose all support from the GOP and be pushed out of the race for a Senate seat.
Massively documented charges backed up by reams of evidence from federal prosecutors of criminal sexual conduct with myriad women (not to mention bribery and corruption charges) that went on for years and continued right up until his indictment, isn't grounds for criticism of any kind.
Do I have that about right?
Posted by: James D. | November 13, 2017 at 03:28 PM
Thanks, Porch, re: Bataclan.
It is infuriating how certain things get removed from discussion.
Images of planes hitting the Tower buildings ... the jumpers ... details about Bataclan. The massacre in Russia (Beslan) was brutal and cruel, too.
Posted by: JimNorCal | November 13, 2017 at 03:30 PM
You have it right, JamesD.
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 03:30 PM
I know Burge has been a bit NeverTrumpy, but I liked this anyway:
@iowahawkblog
Roy Moore's Law: America's capacity for hypocrisy doubles every two weeks
Posted by: jimmyk on iPhone | November 13, 2017 at 03:30 PM
I'd love having Roy Moore in the Senate just so he can do floor speeches tearing Mitch and his bitches apart. What would they do, censor him? Big deal, they already have.
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 03:32 PM
Yes, why yes you do, James.
Posted by: Old Lurker | November 13, 2017 at 03:32 PM
That was nearly a year later, yes this a kobyashi maru situation.
Posted by: narciso | November 13, 2017 at 03:33 PM
Shep says Sessions says he has informed the Alabama Attorney General that he has no interest in running for his old seat.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 03:36 PM
I still don't understand why we have to have all of this tinkering.
Me neither, but I presume it's a combination of:
1) Some ridiculous rule, possibly due to that KKK guy Byrd, that requires some bogus scoring to keep the budget deficit from increasing;
2) The usual GOPe "OMG the Democrats will say mean things about us if we cut taxes for wealthy people";
3) Ryan and McConnell wanting to show who's boss vs Trump.
Note that none of that overlaps with "Doing what is best for the country."
Posted by: jimmyk | November 13, 2017 at 03:39 PM
Apparently the accuser has a yearbook with Roy Moore's lame poem and signature.
This doesn't prove anything, but why in the heck is an adult man (other than a teacher) signing a teenager's yearbook?
How weird is this?
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 03:42 PM
And the McConnell-Moore thing is just the Turtle's continued temper tantrum over his candidate (Strange) losing out to someone who's not beholden to him. There is no good reason simply to accept the story about the 14-year-old absent any substantiation.
Posted by: jimmyk | November 13, 2017 at 03:42 PM
jimmyk,
Has Clarice readied an IPO for the Pitchfork and Torches Corporation?
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 03:43 PM
Good Morning!
On catch-up I am happy to see so many pics of the NFL stadiums yesterday half empty. Seeing them Half Empty makes me feel the movement against those Kapernick/Prima Donna's is Half Full:)
If anyone has a link with pics of all the stadiums from yesterdays games I'd love to see it.
As for GQ mag naming Kapernick their "Man Of The Year", another dumbass mag racing for irrelevancy and extinction. Whatever advertisers promote products in that mag deserve boycotts as well.
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 03:45 PM
The NSRC guy says that if Moore is elected the Senate should vote to expel him.
Guy on Shep's show (which I normally don't watch but had a good bit of information today) says that if Moore is expelled, then the GOP governor would appoint someone to serve.
So then this becomes a democrat problem; do they vote to expel Moore and get another less-controversial Republican in the seat, or do they vote to keep him in as a political foil? ANd if they vote to keep him in, then they cannot very well run on "standing up to those who abuse women" and such stuff.
What a circus!
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 03:47 PM
The NSRC guy says that if Moore is elected the Senate should vote to expel him.
Has the NRSC guy talked about voting to expel Menendez? If not, he can shut right the eff up.
Posted by: James D. | November 13, 2017 at 03:50 PM
And the McConnell-Moore thing is just the Turtle's continued temper tantrum over his candidate (Strange) losing out to someone who's not beholden to him.
Worth remembering that Mitch orchestrated the damning of Thad Cochran's Conservative challenger in Mississippi as a racist: Senate Republicans paid for Mississippi attack ads painting tea partyers as racist: report
Advertisements by All Citizens for Mississippi, which attacked state Sen. Chris McDaniel and painted conservatives as racists, were partly funded by Sens. Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn, Rob Portman, Bob Corker and Roy Blunt, RedState reported...Mr. McDaniel, who was narrowly defeated by Republican Sen. Thad Cochran after being forced into a runoff...
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 03:53 PM
The more this goes on, the more I think that the GOPe were in cahoots with the dems and WERE trying to hang this mess around Trump's neck.
I tell you, I am so tired of these people!
I will be glad when the President gets home and can straighten them all out.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 03:53 PM
why in the heck is an adult man (other than a teacher) signing a teenager's yearbook?
It's a bit unclear from the news accounts how that happened. If they knew each other, however innocently, and she asked him to, should he have refused?
Of course the standard question is again why this woman is coming out with this now, 40 years later.
Posted by: jimmyk | November 13, 2017 at 03:53 PM
Also, jimmyk, did he sign it before or after the alleged assault?
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 03:55 PM
Already the Roy Moore thing has proven that Trump supporters have been right about the Uniparty R&L both working against the MAGA Agenda. If Moore wins and the Senate boots him out, then I would say all 99 of them should be fired.
Of course I say that anyway...
Posted by: Old Lurker | November 13, 2017 at 03:56 PM
I'm guessing Rob Portman is on the Soros donation list.
Posted by: Captain Hate | November 13, 2017 at 03:57 PM
daddy -
Mel Bot on twitter -
It's a sad day in America when a person is named Citizen of the Year for
Calling cops pigs
Praising Fidel Castro
Supporting black panthers & black lives matter
Earning millions while crying about oppression
Creating division
Race baiting and
Destroying the NFL
Posted by: Momto2 | November 13, 2017 at 03:57 PM
Ah, the old JOM days of debating whether there was such a thing as the GOP establishment.
Posted by: Porchlight | November 13, 2017 at 03:58 PM
Too bad the GOPe deniers aren't here for a crow soufflé.
Posted by: Captain Hate | November 13, 2017 at 03:59 PM
Guy on Shep's show (which I normally don't watch but had a good bit of information today) says that if Moore is expelled, then the GOP governor would appoint someone to serve.
Good. Lets go for that. Let's see if the Senate has the balls to expel him. Wouldn't you love to hear the dirt he could dish back on every slimy Senator in the Senate for the last 50 years as defense, and if he is expelled the Governor appoints another Republican.
Works fine for me all around. So vote for Roy Moore. Force the big talking Senators to go on record and expel him, and I hope Menendez by then is convicted but still in the Senate and able to cast a vote. Let he who is without sin cast the first vote.
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 03:59 PM
MM@3:55: According to the news accounts of her story, it was before.
Posted by: jimmyk | November 13, 2017 at 04:01 PM
The NSRC guy says that if Moore is elected the Senate should vote to expel him.
Must have gotten that bright idea from the CEO of Keurig!
Posted by: Momto2 | November 13, 2017 at 04:02 PM
How hard would it be to find dirt, or just somebody claiming dirt, on McConnell and Ryan right now? I say do the same to 4 Rs and 4 Ds every time one or the others tries this sh*t. Should be an automatic response, cocked and ready to go.
See how they like it.
Oh do I hope Alabama elects this guy.
Posted by: Old Lurker | November 13, 2017 at 04:03 PM
"I believe the women..."
You cannot make up enough bad things about McConnell.
Posted by: Old Lurker | November 13, 2017 at 04:06 PM
Exit Question: Who is a shittier, more gutless and more clueless leader of the organization he pretends to lead---Roger Goddell, or Mitch McConnell?
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 04:06 PM
McConnell back in October - "LEADER MCCONNELL: Look, you know, the goal here is to win elections in November. Back in 2010 and 2012, we nominated several candidates — Christine O’Donnell, Sharron Angle, Todd Akin, Richard Mourdock. They’re not in the Senate. And the reason for that was that they were not able to appeal to a broader electorate in the general election."
http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/18/mitch-mcconnells-case-for-controlling-republican-nominees-is-disingenuous/
Anyone who bashes Akin or O'Donnell tells me who THEY are. (I don't know enough about the others he mentions).
O'Donnell was treated like garbage. The IRS illegally went into her info & leaked incorrect tax info.
Nobody was ever prosecuted for that.
and if conservatives listened to the entire Akin interview they would hear a whole program of things they agree with. The one line that was amplified went by without the interviewer even caring.
The blowup was ridiculous.
Akin & O'Donnell would have voted how most of us wanted on every issue.
What is McConnell's excuse for not backing Cuccinelli here in Virginia when we got McAuiffe instead?
Posted by: Janet 🚬 | November 13, 2017 at 04:08 PM
Has this been linked already:
https://mobile.twitter.com/rickhasen/status/930137990290063360
Unbelievable. This was a federal judge, no? Are there any punitive measures available for completely botching this trial, preferably a public whipping?
Posted by: Captain Hate | November 13, 2017 at 04:09 PM
Roger Goddell
I assume you're accidentally misspelling Goodell, although it's a good form of disrespect, I guess.
Posted by: Captain Hate | November 13, 2017 at 04:11 PM
Wrong way to look at it, Daddy.
Goddell is looting a bunch of stupid vanity owners out of gazillions while ruing their brand right before their eyes.
Femall come to mind.
As to McConnell, my days of pretending guys like that are just clueless simpletons are long gone. Until proven wrong, I will assume that leaders like McConnell and Ryan are just as evil and intent on destroying the American way of life as are the Progs who say that to our faces. That they pretend to be on our side just makes them more evil to me.
Did I say Femall?
Posted by: Old Lurker | November 13, 2017 at 04:12 PM
Captain or anyone,
What were the explosive comments that the Jury heard?. I can't discern what they were from the link.
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 04:13 PM
"Anyone who bashes Akin or O'Donnell tells me who THEY are."
Rove was backing O'Donnell's opponent. He went on a vicious rant on Fox about O'Donnell without disclosing his interest in the opponent.
Posted by: Davod | November 13, 2017 at 04:14 PM
Janet,
I actually knew Mourdock, having worked with him when he was a geologist years ago. He was a nice guy, fiscal conservative, (wasn't a social conservative when I knew him) who got tangled in trying to answer one of those abortion questions.
Lugar's people actually worked against him here in Indiana. Coincidentally, today the democrat mayor here in Indy is dedicating a new downtown plaza to be named after Lugar and praising him as a statesman. All of the Indiana GOPe are there.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 04:15 PM
With the caveat that I do not know about this source, I am posting this so we can keep an eye out for associated stories from other outlets:
http://reaganwasright.com/2017/11/10/breaking-british-intelligence-seizes-clinton-foundation-warehouse-400-million-in-cash/
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | November 13, 2017 at 04:21 PM
McConnell actively fought Angle, O'Donnell, Akin and Murdock. So all McConnell is really saying is that the GOPe can successfully torpedo candidates they don't like (read: can't control). That's about their power, not the will of the people.
Posted by: Porchlight | November 13, 2017 at 04:21 PM
Kind of interesting that McConnell would show his dirty hand so openly. What's he afraid of?
Posted by: Extraneus | November 13, 2017 at 04:25 PM
Surprises me too, Ext.
Posted by: Old Lurker | November 13, 2017 at 04:27 PM
Yeah...it is Mitch McConnell telling 'We the People' who we are not allowed to elect.
or if WE elect them anyway, the Republican Party will ruin them.
What kind of Party is that?
Posted by: Janet 🚬 | November 13, 2017 at 04:27 PM
"Texas woman Roslyn Corrigan claims that former President George H.W. Bush groped her when she was just 16 years old... “My initial action was absolute horror. I was really, really confused."
I demand GHW Bush pull his forthcoming book off the bookshelves. I believe the allegations of the young woman whom he molested. There is no place in America for such behavior and the moral thing to do is for former President Bush Sr to admit publicly that he molested this girl and 6 others who have come forth, and he should immediately pull his book from circulation .
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 04:29 PM
What YEAR is the yearbook for the accuser? How old was she when he signed her book? As OL says, FEMALL.
Posted by: Beester | November 13, 2017 at 04:32 PM
What were the explosive comments that the Jury heard?
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/11/judge_questions_menendez_jury_over_dismissed_juror.html
I'm not sure how "explosive" they are, since she's apparently just talking about what the jurors would already have been aware of. Not that she should have talked at all.
Posted by: jimmyk | November 13, 2017 at 04:32 PM
McConnell actively fought Angle, O'Donnell, Akin and Murdock.
Porch,
Don't forget Joe Miller in Alaska. He won the Republican Primary but the Senate Repub's funded Lisa's write-in Campaign victory, which she purchased from promised giveaways to the Native tribes in the interior.
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 04:33 PM
Thanks, JimmyK.
Menendez is guilty as hell but my bet is he will not be found guilty.
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 04:36 PM
Accuser number two tells a story that hangs together (and is nasty).
If I were in the position of a woman who was assaulted by one of these guys in the news, and I was a nobody, I would want a shark attorney. I would want that for protection, because I have to figure that the man I am going up against is going to come after me hard. I'm not going to make it on my own against the forces somebody like Moore can command. I need someone on my side who can -- to take a phrase beloved in these precincts -- punch back twice as hard.
If Mitch had waited until this testimony, he would have helped himself.
I am curious if Trump will now weigh in. This last charge is qualitatively different than the others -- gets into Weinstein territory, with an abuse of power element.
But, with a caution. This person has a story that hangs together, that paints Moore as a predator. And she has a lawyer who knows how to put that kind of narrative together.
Posted by: Appalled | November 13, 2017 at 04:37 PM
Hmmm. "Nelson said she tried to escape from Moore’s car, but he locked the doors and allegedly put his hands on her neck and tried to force her head “on his crotch.”
Car guys help me out here...were not electric door locks an early-mid 80's thing and not available in 1977? So she could just pull up the button and open the door, right?
Posted by: Old Lurker | November 13, 2017 at 04:38 PM
OL, depends on the car. My 72 Lincoln had electric locks, my 72 nova didn't.
Posted by: henry | November 13, 2017 at 04:42 PM
Since our 8,000 reporters still can't tell us why Rand Paul's attacker attacked him last week, maybe we could have them instead tell us what the attacker was thinking and doing 40 years ago, since they are all experts on that sort of ancient history. Maybe that would give us some insight into his actions last week.
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 04:45 PM
Sorry, second accuser. My, my just coming out of the woodwork. The uni-party really, really hates deplorable taxpayers
Posted by: Beester | November 13, 2017 at 04:45 PM
In that era they all had button locks whether they were electric or not.
My parents 64 Caddy had electric locks. They've been around for awhile.
Posted by: Threadkiller | November 13, 2017 at 04:45 PM
Wiki says they effectively date back to 1956, but I don't know how common they were in the 70s. But even if the driver can look the doors, the passenger (at least in the front seat) can still unlock it.
Posted by: jimmyk | November 13, 2017 at 04:45 PM
Why would a rapist sign Year Books of underage girls he was trying to rape? If he was intent on raping them wouldn't that be the last thing he'd do?
Posted by: daddy | November 13, 2017 at 04:47 PM
Thanks Henry.
Posted by: Old Lurker | November 13, 2017 at 04:48 PM
Remember Jackie Coakley.
Just because a story is lurid & awful doesn't make it true.
Perhaps some journalist could interview Jackie Coakley & she could enlighten us as to how she came up with her lies. What motivated her to lie?
Let's hear from Jackie.
Posted by: Janet 🚬 | November 13, 2017 at 04:48 PM
daddy:
He's not trying to force himself, initially. He's just trying to persuade. And then things get out of hand. There's a period of time between the yearbook and the alleged assault.
Posted by: Appalled | November 13, 2017 at 04:49 PM
Power locks were a thing in 77 -- my best friend in H.S. had them. We had a running gag where after we got to where we were going I would open the passenger door and instantly hit the lock button and lock everybody in. (Of course she would just hit the unlock button and roll her eyes and say "you're not as funny as you think you are..."
Posted by: cathyf | November 13, 2017 at 04:50 PM
Appalled on Allred's payroll?
Posted by: henry | November 13, 2017 at 04:52 PM