One Too Many Blows To The Head For NFL Commish

I seem to be starting every weekend with a two-minute drill about the ongoing debacles in the NFL. ESPN has a long article about the dispute between powerful owner Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys and commissioner Roger Goodell. I would say it is mostly "Who cares?" stuff, other than to note that the NFL geniuses have sportswriters talking about Game of Thrones power struggles rather than the games on the field. However, this facet of Goodell's controversial contract extension negotiations caught my eye:

ESPN has reported that [Goodell] asked in August for a compensation package of about $49 million a year, if every incentive is met, plus use of a private jet for life and health care for life for his family.

Say what? I get that after one becomes accustomed to the private jet lifestyle it is hard to go back. But for a guy making that much money to want family health care covered while leading a league that has been offensively stingy about providing that for its own players takes NFL tone-deafness to a new depth.

ERRATA: At a glance, eligible players receive medical coverage for the five years after they leave the league. Not exactly a lifetime.

Comments

[henry]

Today is The Game, played this year at The Bowl.

I don't think they reverted to flag football yet, but with all the SJW crap at both universities they might.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Repeating from end of previous thread:

Jane,

I use Firefox through a third party called "Swagbucks" which my grandson clued me into. (It's a place where you get points for surveys and purchases, etc.)

Anyway, on my screen I get the original page, and to the right at the top next to the tab is a plus sign, which when I click on it lets me go to a new page while the other remains open.

I don't know if your page shows the same configuration, but if there is a plus sign next to a tab, click on that and it should work.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://twitter.com/MichaelDelauzon

Twitter feed with some old pictures of the Trump kids when they were young.

[JimNorCal]

"Somebody needs to off George Soros."

Is there a KickStarter or GoFundMe?

[anonamom]

Yeah, what is with Twitter? I don't see tons of people I follow, unless I actively go to them, and I too get the repeats MM noted.

[Man Tran]

Iggy,

From last night:

Same with wild horses and burros. They displace native wild animals and destroy range but any attempt to remove or limit them is met with immoral moral outrage.

My oldest BIL who I worked for every summer growing up, was a true horse whisperer and in his later years would cry at the thought of the wild horses that died a long and miserable death because of the do-gooders who wiped out the dog food operations and any attempt to manage the hearts in a humane way.

[JimNorCal]

TC, big chess tourney in Spain to fill the last couple of slots for the upcoming event to choose a challenger for the World Championship.
Coverage here
https://www.chessbomb.com/arena/2017-grand-prix
Or here
http://live.followchess.com/#!fide-mallorca-gp-2017

Starts each day about 5am California time, though I'm sure there'll be a rest day inserted in a couple spots.

[matt, deplore me if you must]

Unless Soros is mainlining Amish whole blood I think he is not long for this world. Of course the blood would vaporize in his veins as he is Satan's spawn.

As to the NLF did anyone see any articles on the boycott last week? I never did. Strange......

Anyone notice the Pope's latest pronunciamato on global warning. I understand that he is contemplating setting up the Congregation for Environmental Protection next. Sheesh...

His next encyclical would be titled "Sol Calidus" ( The Sun is Hot) if he had any sense.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/stevenperlberg/sean-spicer-is-resetting-his-post-white-house-strategy?utm_term=.bbw8jjBqZ7#.waRZPPwOv6

I am not surprised but am, of course, disgusted that there is an agent who is known as the "sherpa of the political elite."

What I got from reading between the lines is that you are not going to get a gig or book deal unless you are willing to trash President Trump.

All I have to say is Regnery should carve out a nice slot with book contracts with people like Spicer.

I also think a coffee table book of the campaign with lots of photos and interviews not only with famous people but the grass roots folks and the people like the Reddit guys would be a big seller.

[Frau Steingehirn]

It's now official and AP is on it. This made the front page of the local McClatchy rag:

Major sex scandals toppling the powerful, so why not Trump?

[Exdemocrat]

To the hunters: while I agree your opposition is irrationally squeamish about nature, they also perceive what you do as abusive because it's unnecessary (unless you eat what you kill).
Not saying I agree, but it's there.

[Rocco]

If there's a Firefox icon in your taskbar, click on it and you should see all of your open pages. And I think the Last Page thing is working again?

[Man Tran]

MM and others, I've mentioned it before, but you should really try Opera. I just cleaned up my session which has been open for at least 10 yrs and culled the open tabs from ~150 down to a more normal 70 or so. Ctl-t gets you a new tab, 1 and 2 keys move you left/right in which tab, x and z keys move you forward and back in if you drill down in one page. There's a button on the right that drops down to select a tab that is too small to read at the top. And if you want, you can drag tabs around to group them.

Most of the other browsers copy Opera improvements like the ctl-t function.

Oh, and how do you keep them open for 10 yrs? Just close it out and reopen. Never had it crash and lose anything. If there is a complaint, it can become a memory hog, if you are running through a lot of tabs. When that happens, just close and reopen.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

On November 18, 1983, "A Christmas Story" opened in theaters across the country.

This movie is a particular favorite of mine because so much of it reflects the Christmases of my childhood, including the decor, the Santaland, the next door neighbor's dogs, etc.

I wil have to see if it is available on Netflix this month.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Man Tran,

Thanks for that information. I felt smug when I downloaded Firefox, but the more they improve the less useful it seems to be.

I may try that out next week when I have some time.

[Tom Bowler]

To the hunters: while I agree your opposition is irrationally squeamish about nature, they also perceive what you do as abusive because it's unnecessary (unless you eat what you kill).
Not saying I agree, but it's there.

Posted by: Exdemocrat | November 18, 2017 at 11:32 A

There is always somebody who can use the food if you don't eat it yourself. If you donate the meat to someone in need, you can blunt the argument against hunting.

[Thomas Collins]

Thanks for the links, JimNorCal. By the way, there is an interesting article on the front page of today's WSJ about a chess amateur arranging a game with Magnus Carlsen, the current world champ.

[Man Tran]

Henry,

What is your lever action -06? Marlin is my guess in that they seemed to get bigger rounds in than others. My only deer rifle ( not counting the ARs!) is my dad's .300 Savage. They had the best solution for pointy bullets not bumping primers in front.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Tom Bowler,

This is true. We used to get donated venison at the food pantry I used to volunteer at and it was welcomed by the people who needed meat.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/17/business/media/koch-brothers-time-meredith.html?src=twr

Koch Brothers may be backing a bid for Time, People, Sports Illustrated, etc.

[Rocco]

Granted we don't have to hunt to survive any longer, but that doesn't change the fact that man as a species are predators. Like all preditors, our eyes are on the front of our head so we can see the prey we're hunting. Unlike the prey animals who have eyes on the side of their heads to see the preditor coming. That hunting instinct is bred into us and I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I feel that urge to hunt.

[Captain Hate]

On topic: Roger Goodell has never worked outside of the NFL. Leaving aside what a blinkered view of the world that produces, he has been rewarded abundantly for making bad decisions. That isn't so much a subjective view as it is one based on him constantly reversing himself after receiving poor publicity such as the Ray Rice case.

The current gaggle of owners have created this situation by hiring him and rewarding him copiously. In addition they've undermined the integrity of the game. Jerry Jones is one of the few that sees this clearly.

[Jane - not "in"]

Jane, the idiot, just figured it out. Thanks

[Rocco]

PredAtor...jeeze I spelled it right once then wrong twice.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jane,

Was it the Plus sign?

[Frau Skt. Hubertus]

Beasts - my friends at Smith Lake might not like your sending henry 'Bama Bambis. I've eaten venison they freeze and enjoy all year. Took me a while to figure out why so many stores were selling deer pellets.

"Good Hill Hunting" episode:
"MAN: No more hunting permits this year.
HANK: Why not? There are still plenty of deer out there. I caught one picking through my garbage like this was New York City.
MAN: I know. They're a real nuisance. They're eating everything in sight.
HANK: Well, of course. There's too many deer and not enough food. Issue more permits or they'll all starve.
MAN: We had to limit hunting permits to 400 this year. It was the only way we could get those environmentalists off their hunger strike.
HANK: You're telling me my boy can't go on his first hunt because you wouldn't let a bunch of twig-boys starve? "

[Jane - not "in"]

No MM, I knew about that. It was too dumb to explain.

[Frau Skt. Hubertus]

Miss M - maybe there will be a 24-hour "Christmas Story" marathon again this year. I watched last year and so did Clarice.

[Exdemocrat]

I don't disagree, Rocco, but fwiw i think Tom B's point, as reinforced by MM, will have more impact in the argument/battle.

[Exdemocrat]

"diversity":

http://nyp.st/2AVSgqD

[Pagar, a bacon, ham, and Sausage lover]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/al-franken-even-worse-than-you-think/article/2010505

"The Minnesota senator has never deserved a place in public life."

Truer words were never spoken IMO.

[Rocco]

I guess I was more focused on why we hunt when we don't need to for survival.

[rich]

>>>It's now official and AP is on it. This made the front page of the local McClatchy rag:
Major sex scandals toppling the powerful, so why not Trump?
Posted by: Frau Steingehirn | November 18, 2017 at 11:30 AM<<<

The batsignal for Appalled to start nattering on about pussy.

[Tom Bowler]

I guess I was more focused on why we hunt when we don't need to for survival.

Posted by: Rocco | November 18, 2017 at 12:15 PM

Practice! You never know.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

rich,

I don't care if Gloria Allred drags 50 women out with their crumpled Kleenexes.

Since we all have been expecting it, I am sure President trump has as well, and is ten steps ahead of them.

Hannity said on Twitter a bunch of stuff would start happening on Monday and to hang tight, so we will see.

[boris]

In most states natural predators have been eliminated, which is good for pets and livestock. Not so good for natural prey.

Natural prey animals will overpopulate and become pests and/or suffer starvation and diseases.

In some areas state government has to hire sharpshooters at taxpayer expense to cull deer herds.

IMO better when taxpayers are willing to provide the service themselves.

[JimNorCal]

"natural predators have been eliminated"

Where I live coyotes are becoming more bold, less secretive. Our HOA management says to keep watch over pets, not to leave pet food outdoors and that coyotes are "natural". But I fear the liability if Grandma or Junior are found half consumed one day.

[rich]

Hannity gave us another tick-tock. ho-hum, but really wish ALL-RED would go away.

[JimNorCal]

Already posted but I smiled at this commenter's take.

Don’t know if you saw this, but an Ohio state supreme court justice (Democrat) is running for governor , claims to have had sex with over 50 women and is naming names.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/state–regional-govt–politics/neill-boast-sexual-liaisons-brings-calls-for-his-resignation/WrKiVR5A6FrhEorRN5Qy1H/

His campaign slogan can be “I’ve ‘f-ed” 50 women. Now I want to ‘f’ you.”

[Frau Skt. Hubertus]

Posted by: Tom Bowler | November 18, 2017 at 12:18

Yes!

[rich]

JimNorCal-

I think Captain Hate had flagged up Ace's take on that ... ha

[Pagar, a bacon, ham, and Sausage lover]

http://www.lifenews.com/2017/09/28/alabama-democrat-senate-candidate-doug-jones-rights-for-an-unborn-baby-dont-begin-until-birth/

IMO, anyone who would vote for this baby hater really hates Americans.

[JimNorCal]

Refreshing!

http://newbostonpost.com/2017/11/09/undoing-the-dis-education-of-millennials/
So, here are three ground rules for the rest of the semester.
1. The only “ism” I ever want to come out your mouth is a syllogism. If I catch you using an “ism” or its analogous “ist” — racist, classist, etc. — then you will not be permitted to continue speaking until you have first identified which “ism” you are guilty of at that very moment. You are not allowed to fault others for being biased or privileged until you have first identified and examined your own biases and privileges.
2. If I catch you this semester using the words “fair,” “diversity,” or “equality,” or a variation on those terms, and you do not stop immediately to explain what you mean, you will lose your privilege to express any further opinions in class until you first demonstrate that you understand three things about the view that you are criticizing.
3. If you ever begin a statement with the words “I feel,” before continuing you must cluck like a chicken or make some other suitable animal sound.
********************************
To their credit, the students received the speech well. And so far this semester, only two students have been required to cluck like chickens.

[henry]

Man Tran, my 30-06 is a Browning BLR. Has a box mag. Also I have a supply of Hornady Leverevolution ammo, pointy nylon tips for tubes.

[Man Tran]

Henry, cool!

Looks like the stock and back part of the receiver emulate an old Winchester. The lever must swing pretty far to get that big cartridge in and out. The only downside to the Savage was emptying the internal magazine.

[henry]

Yes, big swing on the lever. Very smooth action. Also I have a takedown model, easier to transport.

[Pagar, a bacon, ham, and Sausage lover]

https://www.weaselzippers.us/364557-democrats-claiming-that-franken-has-admitted-accountability-arent-reading-all-he-said/

"“While I don’t remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women’s experiences,” Franken said in a lengthy statement on Thursday. That one line was the only time Franken addressed the forcible kissing accusations."

[sbw]

Used to hunt with a Winchester Model 94 lever action in 32 Win Special.

Now have a Ruger American .308 using handloaded 50 gr. Sierra GameKing Spitzer BoatTail.

[narcisoyea]

Can you believe this chutzpah

https://mobile.twitter.com/kcjohnson9/status/931718704072744960?p=v

[Frau Skt. Hubertus]

GUS and Rocco - may you be safe
Img src="http://static3.infranken.de/storage/image/5/3/1/3/1583135_cms2image-fixedwidth-900x0_1pbCVs_A14WxC.jpg">

[Frau Skt. Hubertus]

(Asleep at the switch)

Be protected -

[matt, deplore me if you must]

We have mountain lions, coyotes, deer, bobcats and all sorts of critters. Just try shooting one around here.

You are allowed to discharge 3 shots to scare coyotes away, from my understanding. We had half a dozen Barney Fifes and a helicopter when someone discharged 5 shots a couple of months back.

One doesn't really ask what is in one's gun safe if not volunteered around here.

We get black tail deer, but it's hardly worth hunting them.And as of 1 January there's some cockamamie rule on shooting on public land that is coming out. PRC; the people's Republic of California; Gateway to Zimbabwe.

[Man Tran]

sbw,

Not a reloader, but 50 gr. seems pretty light for a .308. Is there a lot of plastic in the core?

[GUS]

Named the BUCK......FRAZIER.....
Down goes FRAZIER.

Lots of meat, he's been gutted already.

More later...............

[henry]

Congrats Gus! Happy eating!

[GUS]

Frau, I got married at ST HUBERTS church in HUBERTUS WISCONSIN, Mrs Gus's home town.

I GOT THE DEAR 45 MINUTES AGO.

[Does Your Dog Bite]

It's all coming back to me, about 20 years ago, a neighbor's dog sniffed my butt without my consent.

#metoo

[Rocco]

Thank You Frau and Bless You.

I think the Hannity Tick Tock is in regards to the FBI whistle blower Victoria Toensing represents. He's supposed to testify Monday.

Congrats GUS! If I'm lucky enough to get one, I'll name him Franken cause he's going down too.

[Beasts of England]

We have more than a million and a half whitetail deer in the state, Frau - they'll never even notice!! :)

[Janet 🚬]

narciso @ 12:59

Is that the frat vs Rolling Stone trial
or
the 3 frat members vs Rolling Stone trial?

I've googled "latest on rolling stone trial" & all are old articles.

[Janet 🚬]

Is it this? (article from 2016)

Judge denies Rolling Stone magazine's attempt to kill UVA frat's lawsuit

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/judge-denies-rolling-stone-magazines-attempt-to-kill-uva-frats-lawsuit/

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP
50m50 minutes ago

BREAKING: Palestinians say they will suspend all communication with Trump administration if US closes PLO office in Washington.
186 replies 844 retweets 1,032 likes

=====================================
Oh,darn. We will no longer have to hear about how the Jews are blood-sucking parasites and the Americans are practicing genocide on the Palis.

[Janet 🚬]

I wish there was some serious NEWS organization that gave out facts, updated stories, dug into backgrounds,...
The entire MFM is a pathetic, dangerous JOKE.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/robert-mugabe-removed-president-zanu-pg-party-meeting-sunday-grace-mug-a8062666.html

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2017/11/18/russian-owned-megayacht-makes-its-way-to-palm-beach-as-trump-readies-for-florida-what-america-is-reading-wh-aides-give-up-on-trying-to-control-trumps-twitter-tom-ricks-why-i-left-washington-224832

Here's what the DC journos are going to gossip about this week.

Apparently they are all convinced the Russian guy is going to meet with Trump. They are working themselves into hysteria over nothing.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Speaking of dangerous jokes, here's the Paln Beach story that is causing the speculation:

http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/new-russian-yacht-docks-port-will-putin-friend-pay-trump-visit/jHOu5zlKUqMa0lMLsqzz6L/

Reporters are starting to sound like the crazy mayor in that old movie "The Russians are Coming."

[henry]

Beasts, how about we send you some wolves?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

henry,

DOn't suggest such a thing. The left would like nothing better than a Department of Wildlife Allotment where prey and predators were trucked all around the country for balancing nature according to their approved numbers.

"Sector 327 hasn't enough rattlesnakes! Send a shipment immediately!"

"We have an oversupply of possums. Send the humane trap brigade and find us a place to relocate them!"

[Janet 🚬]

This really is something. Narciso's link again. Rolling Stone is blaming the fraternity.

Can you believe this chutzpah

https://mobile.twitter.com/kcjohnson9/status/931718704072744960?p=v

KC Johnson
KC Johnson
@kcjohnson9
Extraordinary argument from @RollingStone: the *fraternity* was to blame for publication of the defamatory Erdely article on UVA:

[Frau Skt. Hubertus]

henry - Beasts wants/needs no competition.

GUS - Frazier didn't know what hit him, I bet.

[Jim Eagle]

Oh, for Crimie sake. Roman Abramovich is the owner of the Chelsea Football Club. He lives in London if he is a friend of Putin its only to keep his assests and wealth. Nothing more, believe me.

Silly and stupid article that continues to show journalism in the worst possible way, at least to me. Sending it on to my Chelsa friends in the UK. The need a laugh.

[henry]

Miss M, the humane trap guys catch raccoons in the suburbs and release them here. They are destructive critters or the suburbs would keep them. I asked a passing game warden what the season on those people was. He reminded me that releasing those critters is illegal, I need to take a photo of their activities and the law will deal with them. I'm more likely to carry a 40 cal than a cell phone, so haven't turned any in yet.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Trailer for "Trump: The Art of the Insult:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=6zfzgef_LN4&app=desktop

[matt, deplore me if you must]

Man U is beating the Geordies. That's the important news.

We have a plethora of lizards on the property and the hounds keep on digging things up. Can someone come out and rid me of these meddlesome reptiles?

Speaking of which we had a possum in the garage not too long ago when we lived in the flatlands and I called animal control, who referred me to the possum lady, who was of no use at all. So I put on a jacket and pair of gloves and cornered the creepy neolithic little bastard and grabbed him by the tail and tossed him out of the yard.

[Captain Hate]

The Hoos came to play today at Miami today 28-28.

[Jim Eagle]

Deer? We are overrun with white tails. Until we put up a higher deer fence, we had as many as 4 in the backyard. There is a lot beside us in the back that is overgrown with vegetation and they seem to live there. Used to come into our yard for the apple and pear trees.

When you go down to the beach in the morning, you'll find deer tracks up and down the dunes and beach. Driving is dangerous in the village because they will run across the streets 4 to 6 at a time. They tried to pass a culling law but got shut down by the watermelons.

But they want to kill all our Mute Swans.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I am going to have to run out in a minute but am waiting for a break in the thunderstorms. It's 61 here and 38 in Lafayette, which is 50 miles north of us.

My son't friend is here trying to figure out why the furnace won't work. It's very ind of him to come over and help us out.

Hopefully it's not the control panel.

[sbw]

Not a reloader, but 50 gr. seems pretty light for a .308

Doh! 150 grain! One hundred fifty grain. I don’t even go smaller than 68 grain for my 5.56 AR

[Jim Eagle]

BAD PARROT

A young man named John received a parrot as a gift. The parrot had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary.

Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude, obnoxious, and laced with profanity.

John tried and tried to change the bird's attitude by consistently saying only polite words, playing soft music, and anything else he could think of to 'clean up' the bird's vocabulary.

Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the parrot. The parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot and the parrot got angrier and even more rude. John, in desperation, threw up his hands, grabbed the bird and put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot squawked and kicked and screamed.

Then, suddenly, there was total quiet. Not a peep was heard for over a minute.

Fearing that he'd hurt the parrot, John quickly opened the door to the freezer. The parrot calmly stepped out onto John's outstretched arm and said, "I believe I may have offended you with my rude language and actions. I'm sincerely remorseful for my inappropriate transgressions, and I fully intend to do everything I can to correct my rude and unforgivable behavior."

John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude.

As he was about to ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change in his behavior, the bird spoke up and in a very soft voice said,

"May I ask what the turkey did?"

Happy Thanksgiving!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jack,

HAHAHA! That is a good one. I will try to tell it to my grandkids at Thanksgiving.

Thanks!

[Davod]

Re. Opera. It is now owned by the Chinese.

[Jim Eagle]

Thinking of DoT as Notre Dame takes on Navy in a few minutes.

Raining in South Bend on Senior Day.

[narciso]

Speaking of turkeys Peggy Noonan

[caro]

Badgers!

[Davod]

If you use use Netflix, then the first episode of Lillyhammer has a segment on wolves in Norway.

[jimmyk]

the more they improve the less useful it seems to be

Is there any software for which that isn't true (at least after the first few versions)?

I've had no real problems with the new Firefox, but as I said yesterday, some changes, like moving the refresh button and having the default color for the tabs be black, seem frivolous and annoying.

Has anyone else tried Brendan Eich's Brave browser? It seems pretty good (fast), and I wanted to support him, but I wasn't sure it had support for add-ons like killfile,

[henry]

Yale 24 - Harvard 3. :)

[daddy]

Good Morning.

I think we could eliminate obesity in America just by banning TV remote controllers and making people have to get up and manually change the channels.

[jimmyk]

banning TV remote controllers

If we do that, the terrorists will have won.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

daddy,

If Apple would redo their browser so you didn't have to scroll all the way through every damn time you refreshed the page, it would be of immense benefit. Every time I use my iPad I get mad at Steve Jobs and Tim Cook.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Thomas Wictor alerted me to this on Twitter. No western media seems to be reporting it:

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/238403-egypt-opens-gaza-border-for-first-time-since-unity-deal

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/president-trump-accomplishes-impossible-reduces-debt-gdp-ratio-1-first-year-office/

This is a guest post by Joe Hoft which seems to have verifiable numbers. Good news!

[Captain Hate]

Is there a more disappointing program related to expectations than Jim Harbaugh's at Michigan?

Surprisingly good performance by the Hoos against The U today.

[Beasts of England]

Did Frau just call me a wolf?! ;)

[Jim Eagle]

Anyone familiar with the Tyler Cycle? Here it is revisited and preety timely if you ask me.

http://commonsensegovernment.com/the-tytler-cycle-revisited/

And henry, as long as Harvard discriminates against manly men and turn to girly boys, Asians and wymn, it will always be that score until Yale follows suit.

[Jim Eagle]

...who the hell is preety? ...Pretty....YKWIM

[Beasts of England]

Speaking of deer, here's the deer and bass 'ranch' an acquaintance of mine owns outside of Birmingham. He has the ~3,000 acre compound up for sale for $12M. Charlie Daniels is a prospective buyer and is coming over later this month to investigate. It's not my cup of tea, but the pics are cool.

http://www.whiteoakwhitetails.com

[Jim Eagle]

3K acres high fenced? Hell that cost close to $12 million alone:)

[henry]

Wow Beasts! That is something!

[mike in houston]

This one is for sale

https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/80372-under-armour-co-founder-lists-pennsylvania-hunting-estate?link=TD_nypost_articles.7c7e0f416376f79f&utm_campaign=circular&utm_medium=MANSIONGLOBAL&utm_source=nypost_articles.7c7e0f416376f79f