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November 04, 2017


Thomas Collins

Go BC!

matt, deplore me if you must


Thomas Collins

BC won't lose today. I will go out on a limb and guarantee it!

Thomas Collins

Five Thirty Eight's latest prediction of the top four when the dust clears:

1. Alabama

2. Georgia

3. Ohio State

4. Clemson



That would be just fine by me TC.


And my team may be in the running for the bottom four.

Just a quick drop in, gang. I have been so stunned and disappointed by what I've seen out of my Gators today that I've turned the television off and am currently trying to decide what I'm going to eat as I drown my disappointment in some solitary drankin.

But, yes, I am still basking in the glow of my successful opinion piece. It made it all the way over to Reddit, huh? Amazing. Although I haven't read any of the comments yet over at American Greatness (thanks, though, for your efforts Iggy), last I saw they were around 200. That's amazing to me for a first column. The piece seems to have struck a chord and for that I am quite pleased.

By the way, most of my black friends don't want to engage the column. We'll see what next week brings when a few more may have time to talk. And the picture chosen by the editors, I'm certain, is going to prove to be quite controversial.

Joan, thank you for your incredible compliment. Everyone else, as well. But . . . football has me all discombobulated.

Finally, . . . .

* * *

The younger Bush told Undegrove that he voted for “none of the above.”

Posted by: Old Lurker | November 04, 2017 at 12:18 PM

Which, of course, was effectively a vote for Hillary.

They have no clue how much they have damaged their legacy. None at all. I will never, ever view the Bush family the same.


OL. :
That is not a vote for Hillary
President Trump didn’t need his vote in Texas.
He did need the Ohio JOM people’s votes and the Wisconsin and Florida votes.
Did President Yrump vote for the Bushes when they ran?
We will never know.
Was he a Republican in 1992?

Buford Gooch

The elder Bush said he voted for Hillary.



Only two people had a chance of winning.

If you withheld a vote that any sane person would assume is going to the GOP, then you were voting for Hitllary.

Beasts of England

It's 76° and sunny with a very light breeze, so I took the Subterfuge over to my own lakeside dive for the first time. Worse things have happened we to me. 😎

Beasts of England

Oh, and Roll Tide!! 🐘


I think we've argued the converse


Frau Mit gegangen, Mit gefangen, Mit gehangen

RG - Enjoy the afterglow with another virtual cool one from your old haunts


Frau Edith Steingehirn

"They have no clue how much they have damaged their legacy. None at all. I will never, ever view the Bush family the same."
is sadly so true.

Jim Eagle


Did the same damn thing as you. Didn't watch the 1st half but I was pleased to see Malik Zaire back at QB. Still don't think McElwain will be back. Watching West Ham v. Liverpool and getting ready for the big blowout Confirmation party tomorrow.

BTW, I sent your article (I'll call it an essay) to my vet community which includes a lot of Academy types. You are getting rave reviews. I think Clarice should introduce you to the editors at American Thinker. You could be a nice addition.

Now to come up a neat tag for it. "From the Gator Pit":)

Clarice Feldman

Ditto, RG and Frau.


538 actually ran the numbers



Shirley he can't be serious


Jim Eagle


So Iran has declared war on the Saudis as they are going to modernize Islam. Can't have any of that.

Scroll down in the comments and you'll see the anti-missle intercept launch.

Jim Eagle

Those launches are the Patriots we sold them. Just signed a new contract with them for THAADS.


narc: 3:09
Interesting to read the Euro comments.


Beasts, you have to post a picture of your lakeside dive.

We need to know where to find you when the time comes to drag you to The Ledge:)

Jim Eagle

Lets remember, MI6 like our CIA recruit from Oxbridge like we do at Ivies. Not many STEM kind but philosophy, humanities, linguistic types.

You can find them in AntiFa also.


Helpful reminder for everyone:

Spring back, Fall forward!!!


(CNN)Yemen's air force targeted King Khalid International Airport in the Saudi capital of Riyadh on Saturday with a ballistic missile, according to Yemen's Houthi-controlled Defense Ministry.
But the missile was intercepted over northeast Riyadh, Saudi Arabia's Ministry of Defense said in a statement carried on Saudi-backed Al-Arabiya television.

Jim Eagle

mock mook,

You devil:)

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Al Arabiya English‏Verified account @AlArabiya_Eng

#BREAKING: #Saudi Royal decree: Prince Muteb bin Abdullah relieved from his position as chief of National Guard

Jim Eagle

It begins.

The sunni v. shiite war of more than words. Not good.

But if we are allied with the Sunni (Arabs) this may be the excuse to help our partners. Who knows but not good attacking the Saudis when you didn't have to.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Miss Marple the Deplorable


Dave (in MA)

How are the moonbat riots going? Did they overthrow Trump yet?

Captain Hate

That asshole Steyer should be a person of interest in any attack on GOP officeholders, particularly for DJT supporters.


The backstory:


The problem with the press is they take all these statements like corker and bush at face value.


Miss M, that Donna plan to insert Biden was because Hillary was a side of beef last September. Twitchy missed the good part.

Jim Eagle

Is this the guy? Not doing a Doug Ross:)


anon (AKA common man )

Sorry Donna but where in the world did you get the idea that you had the power as DNC chair to replace the nominee. You never had that power.

Plus weren't you just arguing that the Clintons took away all power from the DNC in their "rigging". Could you keep the story straight long enough for the book to come out?

Dave (in MA)

BRIAN Ross. :)

Thomas Collins

I haven't seen any Antifas in the Seaport District or Financial District so far, Dave (in MA). Just the usual respectable set of tourists, residents, FiDi workers and street people.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Exactly 3 showed up in front of the White House.

Jim Eagle

Thanks, Dave(inMA). Who is Doug Ross? Anyone know?

Thomas Collins

Will the NFL owners pull a Brady and "recycle" their cell phones?


Jim Eagle

Found him: Doug Ross:)

Thomas Collins

Most of us from time to time say and post things we later regret, but something tells me a football coach should have more basic common sense than this.


James D.

MM @3:47

It’s both entertaining and horrifying to read those excerpts.

Obviously the Dems deserve every bit of disgrace, humiliation and internal civil war they’re getting. But It’s also terrifying to realize how lob those freakishly incompetent and lunatic people were in power, and how close they came to winning again last year.


Not only that, anon, but on the one hand she repeats the lie that it was just dehydration from "pneumonia" that caused the collapse. You know, the "pneumonia" that everyone in her campaign had, the "pneumonia" that wasn't so bad that she (or her double) couldn't "power through" by coming down from Chelsea's apartment after the collapse to participate in a staged photo op with a little girl.

On the other hand the "pneumonia" was so serious that Donna was considering replacing her and Kaine with Biden and Corey.

You know I actually believe the latter hand is the true story. That was some serious curb dive that woman took that day. Complete brain freeze. I bet there was talk--maybe not necessarily replacing her right away--but what the procedure would be if they had to replace her if whatever disease she really has had progressed to the point that the curb dives couldn't be controlled or hidden any more.

jimmyk on iPhone

Brazile is just trying to salvage her career by throwing Hillary under the bus. Makes her look bad, but it's fun seeing all the blue on blue outrage she's generating.


Maybe Donna will let us in on what else they knew about her fainting spells and drinking and such.


For fun... the Twitter employee that deleted Trump’s account:



Donna could not replace Hillary because she was already on the early ballots in North Carolina and I believe Florida.
I think Brazile had an inkling that Hillary was going to lose and called her campaign anemic. After years of campaigns Donna can smell defeat.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


jim nj

I guess I should have seen this coming


The NCA is based on models instead of observable data.


Still, in public the campaign and media were sure she would win. Heck, I was afraid she'd win. Hill didn't bother to campaign vigorously. The media and staffers acted surprised.

Donna might have worried but the feeling was not so widespread


this paragraph from the WaPo Brazile article is bizarre:

"Brazile writes that she was haunted by the still-unsolved murder of DNC data staffer Seth Rich and feared for her own life, shutting the blinds to her office window so snipers could not see her and installing surveillance cameras at her home. She wonders whether Russians had placed a listening device in plants in the DNC executive suite."

Talk about begging for follow-up questions - which are predictably not asked...

jim nj

Since somebody asked



Yeah Donna can smell DE FEET, but I bet she can smell DA CANKLES too.


They aren't buying it, for the most part:



I'd like to point out how much better looking Brazille is compared to Sarah Huckabee Sanders. And she speaks in such a nice dialect too!!!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Nick Short
🇺🇸 Retweeted
Patrick Poole‏ @pspoole 28m28 minutes ago

Patrick Poole Retweeted أخبار السعودية

So Twitter’s second largest shareholder Saudi Prince Waleed Bin Talal arrested for money laundering 🤔

matt, deplore me if you must

What is really funny is all of the images of the protesters protesting a fascist America. Seems like their right to protest is safe for now. Darn fascists.....

Things in the ME are getting interesting again. ISIS is getting crushed from all sides now, just as Trump promised. The Houthis just launched a supposedly home grown SCUD at Riyadh, which is about as likely as their sending a camel into orbit. And the Lebanese prime minister has resigned citing Iranian interference and a possible assassination plot against him.

Barzani apparently really overstepped the rules when he called for an independent Kurdistan and so now the Sunnis and Shia are both pissed off at them, b 40% of the Kurds GNP (Mosul oil) has been encumbered and so that bears watching.

The evidence of Iranian meddling is widespread and it is likely that there will be a reaction now. A part of the Bin Laden document release included documentation of the pragmatic relationship between Al Q'aeda and the Iranians.

And so all of these threads of Iranian interference in the affairs of their neighbors are coming to a head. You really don't want to piss off the Gulf Arabs and the Egyptians, and that missile, which more than likely came from Teheran, may be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

By the way, isn't Prince Waleed Bin Talal the "dopey Daudi prince" made famous by President Trump?

Jim Eagle

Holy Moly.

Iowa up on OSU big time.

Frederick and I are watching OU v. OSU. We like lots of offense:)

Miss Marple the Deplorable

HA! I was right!

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Dopey Prince @Alwaleed_Talal wants to control our U.S. politicians with daddy’s money. Can’t do it when I get elected. #Trump2016


Also a major investor in TWITTER!

Thomas Collins

From MM @5:20 pm:

"Saudi Prince Waleed Bin Talal arrested for money laundering[.]"

Jeeeezzzzuuuussss!!! Does Mueller think his jurisdiction knows no bounds?

jimmyk on iPhone

Josh Barro, an apple who fell far from the tree, actually has the right take on Brazile:

Donna Brazile warned Robert Goizueta not to screw with the formula for Coca-Cola, but did he listen? Nooooooooo he did not.

Donna Brazile warned the Hindenburg builders that hydrogen is flammable and they should really use helium.


Too easy though:

Donna Brazile warned JFK not to take that motorcade ride in Dallas.

Donna Brazile was worried about the heat shield panels on the Challenger space shuttle.


Nothing in Goolag on Alwaleed. Poole have a link?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

This just popped up on Twitter. I haven't verified it.

Judy Michigan Mom Retweeted
#ExNFLFan‏ @RESET_2017 22h22 hours ago

Jeb Bush's campaign manager, Kim Fritts, is also the CEO of Uranium One AND the Podesta Group.
Drain this sewer now!


Miss M, the Podesta Group is known. She is renaming and reorganizing it.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Cinzia Bianco‏ @Cinzia_Bianco

Cinzia Bianco Retweeted العربية عاجل

Ten royal family members and ex ministers arrested by New committee against corruption headed by... Mohammad bin Salman. #SaudiArabia #MbS

Cinzia Bianco added,
العربية عاجلVerified account @AlArabiya_Brk
مصادر للعربية: إيقاف 10 أمراء وعشرات الوزراء السابقين في السعودية #العربية_عاجل
2:08 PM - 4 Nov 2017

Among those arrested:

Former Riyadh governor Prince Turki bin Abdullah

Former finance minister Ibrahim Al-Assaf
2:23 PM - 4 Nov 2017
1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
Christa Cooper Tweet text

Cinzia Bianco‏ @Cinzia_Bianco 22m22 minutes ago

Replying to @Cinzia_Bianco

Also: V. BIG Names of Arrests in #Saudi
Liberal entrepreneur Walid bin Talal, key advisor to King Abdullah Khaled Tuweijri.
0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes

Miss Marple the Deplorable

The Spectator Index‏ @spectatorindex

BREAKING: Saudi Arabia arrests several senior princes including billionaire Waleed bin Talal and head of National Guard Miteb bin Abdullah


Thanks! Wow!

Jim Eagle

Next, the breakup of wahabism by force. Trying to bring Islam into the modern world will take more than this.

Account Deleted

So this soft overthrow of Trump is to protect all the beneficiaries of the Uranimum One deal.

Everything was hunky dory so long as Hillary Clinton was to get elected President of the United States.

But she wasn't. So this large scale act of treason benefitted the Bush clan and several other Blueblooded American families along with their operatives at State, national security agencies, DOD, DOE and elsewhere.

Oh... and let's not forget the Bath House Rat, Val Jarrett, Suzy Rice, Samantha Fake Name Power, Ben Rhodes.

So now it's up to us, the People, to call these rats out and to call for their indictment and resultant incarceration and hanging if need be.

If not us, who?


More detail at ZeroHedge:


Jim Eagle

They should play the OS v. OSU game as flag fottlball because no one knows how to tackle.

Jim Eagle

You want football?

OU 38 - OSU 38 half time.

Do not turn in if you want to see defense.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

"Next, the breakup of wahabism by force. Trying to bring Islam into the modern world will take more than this."


I think that this is what the Crown Prince intends. I expect next we will see the imams arrested. (Had to get control of the military and national guard first.)

It would be swell if this corruption and money laundering tied back into the Clinton cabal.

I am interested in this whole thing, needless to say.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Tom Cleary‏Verified account @tomwcleary 51m51 minutes ago

Rene Boucher, the doctor accused of assaulting Senator Rand Paul, is his neighbor http://bit.ly/2ywO7eW

Next we will discover that their kids dated and had an ugly break-up.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Jim Eagle


Easy. This will take time and watch how the UAE and Qatar react.

Yes it looks like a revolution but a lot of family friction at play here. Consolidating his monarchy, you might say.


Good comments at the ZH link.

freedommusic Nov 4, 2017 5:46 PM

Wonder what Trump discussed w/ the Saudi's when he was there?

And wasn't Jared just there again this week?

Another Bob

Iowa putting the wood to "The".

Miss Marple the Deplorable

zerohedge‏ @zerohedge 38s38 seconds ago

Saudi Royal princes’ private planes grounded

Frau Sandwüste

Draining the sand box?


His jersey says .....BARRETT IV.....

IV?? Heck no, he's only thrown 3 interceptions today.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

li Hashem علي هاشم‏Verified account @alihashem_tv

The heads of the main three Saudi owned TV networks were arrested, Alwalid Bin Talal (Rotana), Walid Al Brahim (MBC), Saleh Kamel (ART)

This is interesting.

Michael  (fpa P4F)

Want to make sure she gets a good home.
Posted by: Kevlar Kid | November 03, 2017 at 05:41 PM

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They are perhaps the nations largest, and premier, rare guitar dealer, with 'beaucoup de guitars', given their location in So Cal, and the number of musicians in the area.

Check out their site here:


Best of luck in finding your baby a good new home.

Jim Eagle

After this game watch Urban get sick like he did at UF and give up his job. He can't lose and then quits.


Very intriguing talal owns three percent of Deutsche bank stock, Co ventures the four seasons along with bill gates, including their Vegas affiliate, at the mandalay. Is a big patron in the UK as well as the us, had disengaged from newscorp and Citigroup in recent years. This is like Michael's baptismal massacre.


Have fun tomorrow at the Confirmation.
How far down in the rankings will Ohio State go after today’s loss?
Clemson looks ready to move up.


Narciso, is Walid (spelling is so much fun, and varied) still #2 owner of Twitter?

Jim Eagle

After one half of only offense, the second half is all defense.

The most upside down game I have watched in years.

art in newport

So .. could this be part of the coming Storm referred to by the President as he spoke during the Calm?

Account Deleted

Michael! Thanks for the Tarzan rec. "Don~a Maria" has been a great companion over the years. We'll be in SOCAL for the Christmas holidays week. Will drop in to talk it over. Thanks again!



I believe so.

Account Deleted

POTUS has figured out this corruption is rooted in other countries and infecting our country. Cutting the branches off here in the US won't do much good when there is billionaire wealth feeding the beast globally.

I'm optimistic. I completely understand the "Show Me" sentiment of most JOMerz. I want to see proof in the pudding. In the meantime, I'll stay optimistic until the White Hats start taking hits below the waterline.

So far, nothing but bad news for the Deep State and their money flow lines. That POTUS has a record as an ethical businessman says to me he knows what corruption looks like, what it aims to do, and how it's organized. He's been fighting against corruption all of his business life--- they have been at every turn on every project he's sought to win.

MAGA, bitchez. This is not gonna taste very good---- what I can promise our enemies.


Kev, I agree this is a tangible hit for Trump. Logistics, take out their cash. What Walker did to the left in WI. More to come.

Account Deleted

Losing to Iowa and Oklahoma should just about burn the Buckeyes' toast, no?


Part of what I was referring to:


Jim Eagle

What the hell is with the sidelines today? When I played we had the team, the coaches, the trainers and equipment guys plus maybe the AD or some of his flunkies there.

That was it.

Now it looks like you have anyone who has given money to the program or is a police officer. or some one who knows some one. Hundreds who don't belong there. Easy way to lose a knee having some 230# kid take you out on a play on the sidelines.


And furthermore,


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