Unmoored And Buffeted

How great is it to watch Lena Dunham spend a few moments on the sexual harassment dunk tank? Here is a woman of no conviction and no evident ability to anticipate the most obvious of points and counterpoints and she is simply flailing.

The gist - in a moment of weakness Ms. Dunham gave in to antiquated notions of loyalty, justice and fair play, delivering a statement in support of a male colleague accused of rape.

Now, pause a moment and reflect on the current "believe the woman" environment. Can anyone anywhere imagine that ardent feminists will thank Ms. Dunham for her clarification and decide to back away from the accuser? Are feminists saying "Believe the woman unless Lena Dunham vouches for the man"? Of course not - the outrage was inevitable, although evidently a surprise to Ms. Dunham. Geez, forget about chess or checkers - can she even manage a game of CandyLand?

In any case, since Ms. Dunham is a woman of little character her belief in loyalty didn't last any longer than a bag of potato chips in her dressing room.

Here is her opening salvo and the frantic backpedaling:

Dunham and Konner had defended Miller in a statement to Variety on Friday, saying, "While our first instinct is to listen to every woman’s story, our insider knowledge of Murray’s situation makes us confident that sadly this accusation is one of the 3% of assault cases that are misreported every year."

Miller, through his attorney, told the publication that he "categorically and vehemently denies Ms. Perrineau’s outrageous claims." Perrineau confirmed to the Wrap on Friday that she had filed a report with law enforcement alleging Miller had nonconsensual sex with her in 2012, when she was 17. 

Dunham has since apologized for defending Miller.

"I naively believed it was important to share my perspective on my friend's situation as it has transpired behind the scenes over the last few months," she said in a statement Saturday on Twitter. "I now understand that it was absolutely the wrong time to come forward with such a statement."

Oh for heaven's sake - If this is the wrong time to stand up for a friend, when is the right time? After the accusations have taken hold and his career is ruined?

 

Comments

[Comanche Voter]

When Lena enters a room with one other person, the average IQ in the room drops by 50%. She never was, nor will she ever be, the sharpest crayon in the box.

[henry]

The are no sharp edges on that blob.

And Charley Rose now in the spotlight dance (ferns not mentioned, but all the rest is).

[JimNorCal]

Isn't Dunham in front of the firing squad for anti-Black sentiments?
Or do we embrace "and"?

[henry]

"3% misreported". ?????

That may be backwards on campuses everywhere. Kinda like the raysiss hate crimes.

U VA, Duke Lacrosse, Mattress Skank... the list doesn't end.

[JimNorCal]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/23774/black-female-writer-lena-dunhams-girls-quits-she-hank-berrien
Black Female Writer For Lena Dunham's Lenny Letter Quits. She Says Dunham Is A Racist.

[Davod]

Why is Dunham a racist?

[Account Deleted]

Carry over from last thread:

Charlie Rose? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA What a stud(ebaker)!

I was thinking what a propaganda machine today's media engines are.

All this "workin out", "power tools", "chix wearin' tool belts", "grrrlz kick ass" bumperstickers and the endless ads featuring chix sweating in a stinky gym then relaxing with a two calorie beer with their metrosexual man bun wearing dildologists....

I mean, all of that suggests wymynz are getting stronger, fitter, and have more heft than most of the man-bun wearing male population in America (the propaganda machine is saying "we" are all turning into queer bait)...

...and here these chix can't fight off a scarecrow like Charlie Rose. More crossfit, Ladies.

Posted by: Kevlar Kid | November 20, 2017 at 05:19 PM

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Kevlar Kid
Time for men who find themselves in Moore's position to lawyer up and sue the snot out of the Gloria Allred's and have them disbarred.

Unethical behavior has consequences. Fight them. Beat them. And leave them unable to fight another day. The consequences for doing this kind of stuff has to be unthinkable.

BTW, has anybody heard if there's been traction concerning Ol Yeller's call for the Senate Maj (vaj) Leader and the House Speaker to step down after covering for the taxpayer funded "settlement" office?

Who polices Congress?

[maryrose]

Dunham’s 15 minutes are up.

[Extraneus]

Is this the end of the Sexual Revolution?

If so, is that a bad thing?

[Dave (in MA)]

Hi ladies,
rowwrr

[derwill]

This from Insty says it all:

"Now we can see why lefty media folks think America is a “rape culture:” The part of America they inhabit is."

[Janet 🚬]

Rose is really a pompous ass.
His head is on his chest, bobbing up & down like he is SO interested in whatever the nincompoop he's interviewing is saying.

He reminds me of one of those bobbing-head dogs in the back window of a car.

[Account Deleted]

He reminds me of one of those bobbing-head dogs in the back window of a car.

Posted by: Janet 🚬 | November 20, 2017 at 05:50 PM

ROTFLMMAO

[Porchlight]

Look what dropped right at the same time as the Charlie Rose story:

This may be the item that Hannity and Sara Carter have been hinting at.

Treasure Trove of Documents Tying Russia to Uranium One

https://www.hannity.com/content/2017-11-20-sara-carter/

[Account Deleted]

fitting lyrics of a song that's been relevant for a long long time in America (Wall of Denial, Stevie Ray Vaughan RIP)

A wall of denial is falling down
Whoa it's fallin' so hard, down to the ground

Never knew something so strong could be washed away by tears

But this wall of denial was just built on fear
We've all had our demons from the garden of white lies

Dressed them, amused them, pulling' wool over our eyes

Go so far as to love them to keep from letting them go

All the while they we're killin' us, but we couldn't let it show

No matter what the trouble we carry round inside

We're never safe from the truth but in the truth we can survive

When this wall of denial comes tumbling down

Down to the ground

Simple things in life bring the greatest pleasure

A smile, a kiss, a little baby's laughter

It makes no difference if we run away in fear
The little things in life hold us so near

No matter what the trouble we carry round inside
Never safe from the truth but in the truth we can survive

When this wall of denial comes tumblin' down

Yeah this wall of denial must tumble down
Down to the ground

Read more: Stevie Ray Vaughan - Wall Of Denial Lyrics | MetroLyrics

[Jane - not "in"]

Why, oh why would anyone take Lena Dunham seriously?

[Janet 🚬]

from the WaPo - https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.a9078ae162de

"But soon, Godfrey-Ryan said, he began yelling at her, calling her stupid and incompetent and pathetic.

“He repeatedly attacked her in front of other people,” recalled a former producer who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “He once said that because she hadn’t gotten a college degree she would never amount to anything better than his secretary.” "

Pompous ass.

[mad jack]

when the going gets tough the tough eat a bag of chips. nice shot TM.
her initial defense of this guy was pathetic anyway. quoting stats. wtf.
charlie rose. it takes a heart of stone not to laugh out loud at this stuff.

[henry]

Is there a betting pool in Vegas on who is next? Asking for a friend.

[Extraneus]

Porch, you read that whole thing?

[Janet 🚬]

Why, oh why would anyone take Lena Dunham seriously?

That's the question, isn't it?

Foisted on the public...magazines, a show that hardly anyone watched, "news"paper articles on her,...

Why? Was she chosen because her parents are famous pervy artists?

[Porchlight]

Not yet, Ext.

[sbw]

Come on, Janet, not even daddy would have posted that!

[Threadkiller]

AAAAACKKK!!!!

::vomits::

[narcisoyea]

Ok now its gotten silly:
https://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/932737321891454977

Thesecgoggles do nothing, btw

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I read about 2/3 of it.

I had to come back and comment about his unsolicited shoulder rubs which they referred to as "the crusty paw."

Bwahahahaha!

[narcisoyea]

Rod fisk WA the lead south African diplomat on nuclear proliferation, this was no ordinary trucking company

[Captain Hate]

this the end of the Sexual Revolution?

I hope so.

If so, is that a bad thing?

Not unless it gets replaced by something even more annoying.

[Dave (in MA)]

CBS suspended Chuckie Rose

[derwill]

--Is there a betting pool in Vegas on who is next? Asking for a friend.--

Please, oh please, oh please can it be Schiff and Schumer.

----

The Left media machine created icons like Lena Dunham to normalize perviness.

[Porchlight]

Charlie Rose. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Maybe they're doing this all fast and furious now so that in a couple of years no one will remember who got accused and who didn't because there are so many stories.

And then they'll pull down some Republicans while they're at it.

Here's a "who will it be next?" rabbit hole for you - Don Henley: http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/blind-item-1-he-made-millions-from.html

[Extraneus]

My wife thinks Charlie already had this queued up.

“It is essential that these women know I hear them and that I deeply apologize for my inappropriate behavior. I am greatly embarrassed. I have behaved insensitively at times, and I accept responsibility for that, though I do not believe that all of these allegations are accurate. I always felt that I was pursuing shared feelings, even though I now realize I was mistaken.

“I have learned a great deal as a result of these events, and I hope others will too. All of us, including me, are coming to a newer and deeper recognition of the pain caused by conduct in the past, and have come to a profound new respect for women and their lives.”

[Porchlight]

Dunham is so foul.

Who wore it better?

[henry]

Narciso, Carter Page met with a country that hates Soros and the left is upset? BTW, 0Hour1 is chasing the Soros family (father and son) love for [beating the crap out of] women. Much like the hedge fund guy that used to work for them and got caught with a Manhattan "penthouse dungeon" last month. Crazy world.

[Beasts of England]

CBS suspends Rose and PBS halts production and distribution of his shows. Oops!!

[Threadkiller]

https://mobile.twitter.com/charlierose/status/932747035069034496

[Extraneus]

Not yet, Ext.

Whew. After that pizza "summary" you linked, and now this, I was thinking you consume ten times more than what I can. Maybe only five?

[Threadkiller]

Is his PBS show every night? I may tune in tonight if so.

[Porchlight]

Ext, I wish I could, but I'm limiting myself a bit since the election. I don't know how anyone can keep up, honestly.

But if you want a real rabbit hole that Crazy Days and Nights site I linked just now is wild. I don't care about the celebrity gossip except as it applies to pizzagate and related stories.

[Janet 🚬]

All of us, ???

Don't include ME in your nightmare.

[Porchlight]

Ext, it does look like Rose knew it was coming and had that ready to go.

He's so Distinguished and Important that he probably got a few days' warning.

[Jane - not "in"]

Am I missing something?

Are you guys (women) living in a world where you worry about being groped constantly, where ever you go?

I'm starting to feel inferior.

[Janet 🚬]

There could be a couple feature length films made from clips of Charlie Rose badmouthing Americans.

Him tsk-tsking about how unenlightened we are.

[matt, deplore me if you must]

Ewwwww!!!!!! Get that skank outta here!!!

We're having our very own purges now. It even looks like Bill Clinton is going to be sent to Siberia (Upstate New York).

it isn't even a drip anymore; more like a running faucet of sleaze.Old man Bush grabs some cheerleaders ass; Franken gets his picture taken honking some playmate. Dunham called a raciss, this really is entertaining.

Maybe Hollywood and the rest of these Pharisees can't make a decent film or write a decent column or book anymore but they are very noisily destroying whatever shreds of credibility they had left.

They're going to have to put a sign up on Sunset Boulevard saying "Here be Cannibals".

[Porchlight]

Jane, no, never. And that includes the many years I spent going out to see bands and hanging out in bars.

This world is mostly inhabited by the left.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Porchlight,

If he got a heads up, has he pulled his retirement account and moved it to an off-shore bank? Has he moved assets into a trust? Who is his lawyer and when was he retained?

[Janet 🚬]

Not me, Jane.

I don't think I'd go up to the hotel room of a boss to work though either.
...or stay with a boss alone in a vacation home. It's weird to me that the women would go along with the creepy set-up.

[Extraneus]

Don't worry, Jane. Those who were happy to be groped aren't talking. Those who weren't say the guy was the kind of oaf who'd press the issue even after it was clear in girl-body-language that it wasn't happening.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jame,

Not me, either, and I was even the only woman geologist in 2 different departments. I also was never bothered when I worked pink collar jobs at various retail shops.

Of course the furniture store doesn't count because the male employees were mostly gay.

[Jane - not "in"]

There certainly seems to be an alternate universe out there. I'm starting to think I'm out of the loop!

[derwill]

I think it's a case that for many years now there has been a whole class of people, otherwise known as the "elites" who haven't been abiding by the laws of society and of the justice system that us normals have to. And because of that, and the lack of repercussions for what they've been doing, they've become ever more bold in their sexual perviness and in their other law-breaking--like pay-to-play, money laundering, influence peddling, bribery, etc.

Maybe it was planned as a means to take out Trump, or to pave the way for Dem woman nominee in 2020, and maybe it just happened, but I think a dam broke with Ross McGowen accusing Weinstein and Rowan Farrow writing about it, and now it's become a torrent that the Left can't stop, and it's consuming them.

One of the Left's biggest failings has always been their blindness to the law of unintended consequences.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jane, not Jame.

I have got to learn to proof read! Sorry!

[Porchlight]

Even The Hill appears to recognize the importance of the FBI informant's documentation on Russia and Uranium One.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/361276-fbi-informant-gathered-years-of-evidence-on-russian-push-for-us

No wonder Hillary is sounding nervous lately.

[Porchlight]

MM, I don't know if any of the Charlie Rose stuff is actionable but it seems these high-profile people's finances are usually pretty well protected in general. Even if they are great guys, they are are targets for litigation.

[narcisoyea]

I noted the parallel on a much smaller scale with dsk using fmr intelligence operatives to shield himself from scrutinym

[Captain Hate]

Maybe it was planned as a means to take out Trump, or to pave the way for Dem woman nominee in 2020, and maybe it just happened, but I think a dam broke with Ross McGowen accusing Weinstein and Rowan Farrow writing about it, and now it's become a torrent that the Left can't stop, and it's consuming them.

And Trump is still tweeting away. This should be a lesson to the GOPe fossils but they're surely too stuck in their ways to learn a damn thing.

[Extraneus]

I've tried to subtly refer to this but I was for several years a target of groupies. I know what some of these nerds were feeling when they came upon hot willing women who wouldn't otherwise give them the time of day if not for their positions.

Most of the men being accused were just clumsy. I wasn't, and could never be accused of any of this stuff, and I'd bet a lot of money that Trump couldn't either.

Pressing a girl who doesn't like you isn't a thing for most guys.

[Jim Eagle]

Hard to believe. My first corporate "seminar" in sexual harrassment was back in 1979. Look how far we have come:

I had 3 exceptional women working for me on a Nuke in Michigan. All of them unqualified for the job they were hired to do. This is back in the day when we hire people out of Barber College to work as quality control engineers.

I came into the job from another job and was horrified at what I found. Decided to go the training route versus outright dismissal. Lots of reasons why but having to find qualified people was a problem and anyone else brought it would have to be trained also.

The end result was that because I decided to treat the unqualified women as that and put them into intensive training for their jobs I was brought up on sexual harrassment that went nowhere because the NRC stepped in, agreed with me and fined the operator for allowing unqualified engineering and technical personnel in the first place.

It can be extremely dangerous out there for any employer or male/female if the personnel structure of compliance is not in place when hiring.

[Beasts of England]

'I've tried to subtly refer to this but I was for several years a target of groupies.'

You must not have been the bass player...

[GUS]

What's the big deal here. Effing LIBTARDS have accused all of US of all this shit for a very long time.

[Porchlight]

I'm sure you're right, Ext. The groupie situation allows access. So this is where a guy like Glenn Thrush is able to take a young reporterette in the making to a bar and sit at his favorite booth in the back. And since Glenn Thrush is a douche, he's going to continue to press his luck even when he's not getting positive signals.

Sometimes it could be a genuine misreading of the situation, sometimes it's because they do what they know they can get away with.

[Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma]

Remember when 60 Minutes and Charlie Rose messed with the color correction and editing on the Steve Bannon interview?

Steve Bannon remembered.

[Threadkiller]

You must not have been the bass player...

Hahahahaa!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/361261-gop-lawmaker-trump-a-factor-in-why-im-not-seeking-reelection

Rhode Island GOP Congressman Dave Trott.

Who perhaps has been hot to trot himself.

[henry]

I have been at times the son of the boss, a regular schmo, and the boss. The simple rule "don't dip pen in company inkwell" has been essential. Attraction or not, some things cannot happen. Plus I'm paranoid enough not to trust a willing employee -- too much to lose.

I cannot understand all these creeps using a position of power to force unwilling partners. Consensual is perilous enough (and readily available, people being people).

[Jim Eagle]

MM,

Trott is Michigan. A GOP rep from RI is laughable.

[Janeprobably about 10 minutes after getting there]

Just imagine how all the groupers who have not yet been outed feel tonite. How delicious!

[Janeprobably about 10 minutes after getting there]

GROPERS 😬Sheesh

[Janet 🚬]

https://nypost.com/2017/11/20/charlie-rose-off-the-air-over-alleged-sexual-misconduct/

“This is pretty bad, we don’t think he can come back from this,” a source said.

“He has been suspended, and it appears to be likely that more allegations could come out in the coming days, from current or former CBS employees.”

[Jim Eagle]

I hope they all go down, every one of them, who have pontifichaated and acted so holier than though every day especially on Sunday. I wish for a DIAF scenario but will accept terminal rejection and disappearance.

[Davod]

This was a headline at RCP. "F-22s Conduct First Airstrikes in Afghanistan Tara Copp, Defense News"

Why are expensive air superiority fighters providing ground support in Afghanistan?

I hope it is not to fill a gap in normal support aircraft.

[Jim Eagle]

...Pontificated.....

[Dave (in MA)]

"Tick Tock"

No, just "Tick-tick-tick"

[Davod]

How long before Rose's slot is filled with a charismatic LGBTetc commentator.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jack,

What can I say - bifocals. I read R-MI as RI, I guess.

I thought maybe it was one of those weird New England GOPers like Chafee.

[Davod]

Or alternatively, a eunuch.

[narcisoyea]

How does one saw chortle in German:

https://mobile.twitter.com/alimhaider/status/932766490209726465?p=v

[Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma]

Just imagine how all the groupers who have not yet been outed feel tonite. How delicious!

GROPERS 😬Sheesh

Had it right the first time. Fish in a barrel!

[JimNorCal]

https://twitter.com/MikeSAdams/status/932603681027100678?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Charles Manson died today some 45 years after the Supreme Court spared his life. He was preceded in death by 59 million innocent unborn humans who failed to win the sympathy of our nation's highest court. #CharlesManson

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

narcisoyes,

I can see stable, but RESPONSIBLE? She wrecked Europe!

[Captain Hate]

I thought maybe it was one of those weird New England GOPers like Chafee.

Or Jumping Jim Jeffords?

[JimNorCal]

"Just imagine how all the groupers who have not yet been outed feel tonite"

At first I thought this was a contrast of "groupers" and "groupies" :) :)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Guis! henry!

Dan Scavino Jr.‏Verified account @Scavino45
18m18 minutes ago

Silent Night Evergreens Christmas Tree Farm from Wisconsin won the 2017 National Christmas Tree Association contest to present a tree in a horse-drawn wagon to the @WhiteHouse. Today, @FLOTUS Melania accepted the🎄

Video at this link (Barron is getting VERY tall):

https://twitter.com/Scavino45/status/932768777007181824

[exdemocrat]

OMG - come on, this is so past ridiculous: http://www.newsweek.com/how-murderer-charles-manson-and-donald-trump-used-language-gain-followers-717399?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

[narcisoyea]

Well they and spuegel have chortled at our syposed dysfunction to e and again

[henry]

Miss M, very cool. Thank!

[Janet 🚬]

It would be interesting to hear MFMers explain the difference between Weiner texting pics of his junk vs Rose walking around naked in front of employees.

Who is more of a low-life? Weiner or Rose

[narcisoyea]

A rejoinder:

https://mobile.twitter.com/alimhaider/status/932770334541074432?p=vs

[GUS]

I'll honk as I pass the FARM tomorrow Lovely Miss M!!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Tammy Bruce on Tucker Carlson saying that people like Rose and Franken and Thrush use their supposed feminism to get closer to women as predators.

She says when she was in NOW and all the stuff came out about Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton she was told "Yes, they are pigs, but they are OUR pigs."

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://twitter.com/MichaelDelauzon/status/932773222398902272

This has a close-up portrait of Barron Trump from this afternoon.

That handsome young man is almost beautiful, like a Botticelli angel.

[Jim Eagle]

Hell yeah, Christmas is more special this year than the last 8. We are going to our Florida hidey and enjoy every minute while decorating the Southampton house for those days leading up. Saturday after Thanksgiving we have our annual Christmas parade where we have all the fire trucks and ambulances lit up. My dad started the Christmas decoration effort on Job's Lane and Main Street. Hundreds of christmas trees and permanent trees lit up. Spectacular.

Plus we have a huge creche at our Basilica on Hill Street. Lots of Advent activities and events. Really special. Especially the carolers and musicians all through the season.

Thank you President Trump for bringing God back into Christmas.

[Dave (in MA)]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/fox-news-jeanine-pirro-charged-driving-119-mph-upstate-article-1.3646308
Fox News host Jeanine Pirro hit with speeding charges after cops clock her driving 119 mph upstate

Gerry [email protected]

I spent a day with Terry Glenn once upon a time. Nice enough guy, but I remember one thing above all others: He drove like a maniac

[henry]

JiB, yes indeed. Florida Christmas for me as well. First time the whole family has been together in years.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Pirro was racing to her mother;s nursing home, where she was ill.

Just found that out.

[Jim Eagle]

Dave,

Was it a Tesla? If so, disappointed.

BTW, Barron Trump is destined to be over 6'3 or 4. Because both parents are tall. Frederick is already 5'10 at 14. I am buying for the Spring and Summer as if he is 6'0''. That is the way they grow.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jack,

And they are HUNGRY when they are growing like that. I remember my son getting half of a roast out of the fridge and eating the whole thing, dipping it in A1! In one big hunk! Not even cut up!

LOL!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Saul Montes-Bradley has some interesting news on stuff going on in the Muslim World:

https://twitter.com/Debradelai/status/932767296904450049

[-peter]

I love the way Mark Steyn reminds us today that one of Obama's besties was a big fan of the Manson gang, Bernadine Dohrn applauding how the murderers ate after the murders and stuck a fork in Sharon Tate's pregnant abdomen.

[Appalled]

Bill Clinton rejoins the sexual harassment follows with a sexual assault after his Presidency. No details. Per Ron Fournier Twitter