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December 25, 2017



Merry Christmas to you and your family as well, TM!

Thank you for making this place available to all of us.

Merry Christmas to all!

Clarice Feldman

And to you, Tom, for giving us so much info and fun every year. Also to your family.

Clarice Feldman



Blessings on you and family with gratitude for the existence of JOM.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Thank you for this site, Tom! Merry Christmas to you and to your whole family!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Some people are not aware that the lyrics of "I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day" are taken from a poem by Longfellow. Here's the background on the poem and the full lyrics:


Miss Marple the Deplorable


Miss Marple the Deplorable

I guess I will go cook a late breakfast.

Back later!


Good morning, JOM and Merry Christmas to all. When I say of my ‘gratefuls’ this morning I think of this wonderful blog and how the host TM has provided this venue of communication for such a thoughtful caring group of people.

Also thankful I’ve been able to meet Man Tran, Pagar and Missy Porch in person, spoken with Clarice and ChiTown on the phone and all are wonderful people.

And like CentralCal tho I mostly lurk these past years I’ve laughed at the good humor that eased the pain of the Obama administration. I along with MM and so many others feel God’s hand must have guided this past election.

Dear Janet’s 8:03 post this morning (on the previous thread) is an inspired passage brought to us by Ignatz last year and welcome to read.

So many thanks to all the regular posters and commentators here which is a place like no other on the internet.

God Bless.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

That AT link is too funny, clarice.
It's probably too much to hope the CA Dems pass option number 2 and Trump's federales wait a year and then arrest the entire CA government and anyone who claimed the charitable deduction en masse for the obvious tax fraud it is.
Maybe Dem internment camps are still in the picture.


Merry Christmas, Tom and all!

Clarice Feldman

Heh, Iggy. Desperate times call for desperate measures in Sacramento. Here's Kurt Schlichter to offset Xmas sweetness loadLhttps://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/12/25/christmas-is-the-perfect-time-to-mock-liberals-and-other-random-thoughts-n2426746

FTA:And speaking of hypocritical weasels, the Democrats wisely declined their progressive wing’s demand to use the DACA fight to restage the Alamo, probably because this time the Americans would have won. Instead, they kicked the budget can down the road to January and fled town, not particularly wanting to compound their stinging defeat on tax reform with one on illegal aliens. Yeah, a government shutdown over the holidays because the Democrats won’t play unless Republicans let a couple million illegal aliens become citizens is a bad visual. Around the Christmas table, even that annoying sophomore nephew who is home from Gumbo State for Kwanzaa will kind of have a problem arguing, “But we should totally cut off vital services for Americans in order to let MS-13 members be rewarded with our precious citizenship!”

Now, as your late family gathers together, all dead because of Trump’s authoritarian reign of terror, try to remember that in the spirit of the season, you should mock your liberal friends and family unmercifully. It’s a painful time for them. The economy is booming, ISIS has been beheaded, and Mueller hasn’t found Schiff. That’s why it’s so, so very important to kick them when they are down. Because Christmas is a time where we celebrate giving, so give them grief. Because it’s the only way they’ll ever learn.


Thank you Tom,best wishes to your family.

MM,earlier this month,an amateur historian who writes history articles for the Maine papers noticed that the Longfellow Monument in Portland was missing his Christmas scarf. He contacted the people who usually put the scarf on the monument. They wanted to continue the tradition (20 years) but one of the group had recent hip surgery and the others didn't want to risk the snow and ice. The original organizers must be older folks. Anyway,the amateur historian recruited a reporter from the Portland paper and they put a Dollar Store scarf around HWL's monument. They used a step ladder to reach,not realizing HWL is much taller than he appears if you're walking by him on the street. Ha.
Fun story and HWL is wearing his scarf this year!


Poll: Trump And His Haters Agree To End The War On Christmas

Nearly 65 percent of Americans want to be greeted with “Merry Christmas,” while a much smaller 28 percent prefer “Happy Holidays,” the poll finds. The results appear to give conservatives a big victory in their longstanding promise to end the so-called “War on Christmas.”
pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

glasater,Thank you! We were so happy to meet you and we look forward to seeing you again but not this year I'm sure. Who knows what the next year will bring.


CNN Panel Mocks Video's Thanks to Trump For Favoring 'Merry Christmas'

BLITZER: "Thank you, President Trump, for allowing us to say 'Merry Christmas.'" As far as I know, people have been saying merry Christmas for a long time.

DAVID SWERDICK: Yeah, Merry Christmas, Wolf. Merry Christmas, Rebecca. Merry Christmas, Jeffrey. You can already say "Merry Christmas."

REBECCA BERG: Don’t you feel liberated?

DAVID SWERDICK: Yeah, I do. Like thank you, President Trump. Look, it’s a bit of a ridiculous ad. At the same time, this for the 35 percent of Americans that still support President Trump, this is the value add. (The December 22 Rasmussen poll had Trump's approval rating at 44 percent. — Ed.) A President Bush could have passed a tax cut. A President Rubio could have appointed a Supreme Court justice Neil Gorsuch. But this culture war, this sort of ax grinding is what people got out of President Trump, and they’re sort of touting it now as they end the year.

BLITZER: Jeffrey, go ahead.

JEFFREY TOOBIN: I just wanted to say that finally, you know, the Obama prohibition on "Merry Christmas" has been overturned, and I for one am grateful for that.

BLITZER: Although we have a lot of clips of former President Obama actually saying those words, "Merry Christmas."

TOOBIN: It’s true. It’s true. Just a little Christmas cheer here, you know.


Press Draws Lame 2010 ObamaCare Parallel in Predicting Big 2018 GOP Midterm Losses

During the past month, many establishment press pundits have pivoted from believing that Republicans will suffer major losses in the 2018 midterm elections because they haven't accomplished anything to predicting that Republicans will suffer major losses now that they have.


Ronald Brownstein wrote the following at The Atlantic on Wednesday:

The Double-Edged Sword of a Party-Line Victory

President Trump and congressional Republicans have just taken the same leap of faith that Democrats did when they passed the Affordable Care Act.

When then-President Obama and the Democratic House and Senate majorities muscled through the ACA in 2010, the bill represented a big policy victory, but an even bigger political gamble. Though ObamaCare fulfilled the party’s decades-long goal of providing (nearly) universal health care, the immediate backlash in the 2010 election helped propel Republicans to the biggest midterm gain in the House for either party since 1938 and gave them a majority in the chamber they still haven’t relinquished.

Republicans could face a similar equation of costs and benefits from the tax bill they just passed.


Buford Gooch

Merry Christmas from one of the regular lurkers (hopefully, representing the rest of the lurkers) not of the Old Lurker group.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

It's when Dems get sarcastic as they deny a reality we all witnessed that they alienate the most people.

Beasts of England

☃☃ Merry Christmas!! ☃☃

art in newport

Here in Newport we have no snow. It's blue skies and temps in the 60s. Brought home the tree strapped across the back of my Boxster.

Have the Yule Log burning brightly on the big screen and carols playing through Alexa.

People will soon begin to arrive and all else is ready.

Merry Christmas my friends, and God bless us, every one.


Merry Christmas! 🎄God bless whoever invented snow blowers!

The missus gave lyle two bottles of '12 Duckhorn Three Palms Merlot. I gave her a mag of '13 Spottswoode Cabernet. Yay!

Thanks to our esteemed host and to all the great people who contribute to a lively cyber conversation. You're the best.


Merry Christmas to TM and his family. Many thanks for this wonderful blog.


Brought over. Sorry maryrose--

Merry Christmas one and all!

Cold and grey skies in the Piedmont today, though it was sunny for a few hours earlier.

My sweet boys coordinated to FaceTime a parent each so we all could be "together" (though not), but poppa still out on his walkabout, and momma had to get ready for church, so it failed. But the thought definitely counted! A+ for effort.
There is nothing is more rewarding than seeing your children's love for each other, is there?

Baby Jesus arrived safely to the creche at church; 9:00 Mass had us singing all the best carols. So crowded that I had to stretch to receive The Eucharist,a nd just sent out one hand--and nearly dropped the host! That would have been a first. I think the Eucharistic Minister missed her calling as a nun--pricinpal!-- from the look she gave me!

Rack of lamb, asparagus, haricot vert once my call is over at three (so I can drink).
Lots of sweets treats here from my sweet neighbors that I'll try not to consume.

My family is getting snowed in in Michigan; youngest brother chose to turn home rather than drive the forty miles to the best meal of his year--he wasn't up to killing his family in the process.


And a Merry Christmas to everyone here at JOM.


>>>I read yesterday it has taken in $120 million less then the last Star Wars movie. My husband said it was because the hero was a female (so technically she is the heroine)

God Bless Us Everyone

Posted by: Texas Liberty Gal | December 25, 2017 at 10:24 AM<<<

Rey was the least of the movie's problems. The Infinity War trailer was pretty good though.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Merry Christmas, TM, and thanks for your active participation in the forum you provide.


Merry Christmas everyone -- special thanks to Mr. Maguire for this wonderful place!

James D.

I agree with rich about Last Jedi.


don't want to be a Grinch and ruin it for anyone though.


Our former editor, Fritz Updike wrote a column called Purely Personal Prejudices. This one he ran every Christmas. We run it yearly, still.

Fritz worked at the Rome Sentinel from 1926, the year before my great, great grandfather died, until he passed on in 1995, when our son was eight -- so he knew all six generations of our family at the Sentinel.

Shortly before he died I complimented him for not so much the extraordinary things he did, but doing the ordinary things so extraordinarily well.

Consider reading it. The column represents all that is good about a long line of family and community.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


This is interesting.


Merry Christmas All

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Hey, squaredance! Merry Christmas! Haven't seen you around here in a while!

Thanks for your greetings and best wished for the New Year as well!

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Beautiful, SBW.

James D.

That was wonderful, sbw. Thank you for sharing it!


Drudge is still showing this:

Putin critic Navalny clears first hurdle in bid for Russia presidency

But not so fast...

Alexei Navalny barred by Russian officials from 2018 presidential election

Russian election officials on Monday formally barred Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny from running for president, prompting calls from him for a boycott of next year's vote.

The Central Election Commission decided unanimously that the anti-corruption crusader isn't eligible to run.

Navalny is implicitly barred from running for office because of a conviction in a fraud case which has been viewed as political retribution. He could have run if he was given a special dispensation or if his conviction was cancelled.


Hi (and thanks) MM. Have been abroad for a while. Hope all is well.

(and have been richly enjoying watching Trump going at it, I might add. Is this then best administration or what?)

Have to run now...just thought I'd drop by and give my salutations.


Merry Christmas to all. Peace on earth, good will to men.

Texas Liberty Gal

A Christmas present for us all!!! Sara Carter joining FNC!



'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' actress arrested for shoplifting food, claims she's destitute

“My Big Fat Greek Wedding” actress Lainie Kazan reportedly was arrested on Christmas Eve for shoplifting $180 worth of food from the supermarket.

The actress from one of the highest-grossing romantic comedies of all time claimed she’s destitute, according to TMZ.

The 77-year-old actress walked out of a Gelson’s in the Los Angeles Area Sunday before an employee stopped her at her car and called the cops.


Thank you for that, sbw. Yes, wonderful.


We've had this on both televisions since yesterday -- couldn't sleep in the middle of the night and sat here alone, giggling and smiling at the animals playing. Sweet little pig. Kittens. Puppies.

Hope you all have it on your cable, etc., too.



Obama sends holiday message: 'On behalf of the Obama family, Merry Christmas!'

From the earlier link about the CNN snark:

By contrast, though the CNN panel referred to a video montage of predecessor Barack Obama saying "Merry Christmas" several times which was shown earlier in the week, Barack Obama and his administration generally avoided the "Merry Christmas" greeting in official communications, as seen in Christmas cards from 2016 ("Happy Holidays" and "holiday season"), 2015 ("warmest wishes for health and happiness this holiday season"), 2014 ("spirit of the holidays"), 2013 ("joy of the holidays"), 2012 ("joy of the holidays"), 2011 ("may your holidays shine"), 2010 ("may your holidays be filled"), and 2009 ("Season's Greetings" and "a joyous holiday season").

Great warm wonderful link, sbw.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I am going to take a nap!

Part of my kids leaving me to celebrate and get some rest.

Back later!


Yes navalny is a,man of integrity, so consequently he can't run.

I did more an amusing bit re rwys clumsiness and hux is such a,toff he might as well be in tanenhaus' s tiki bar.

James D.

Joan, I’ve had the Hallmark Channel on nearly every day since the Hristmas movies started airing. I love it.

Jim Eagle

9# Angus Rib Roast is in the oven with the carrots, onions and potatoes quench with Beef broth and a nice dry red wine.

When the boys and Mrs. JiB are back from walking 18, they should be hungry enough to finish that Christmas dinner off without any leftovers.

Serving with 2 bottles of 2000 Vieux Chateau Certain. Parker 100 rating that year.

Jim Eagle

...Certan but I am Certain that is how it is spelled....


(Via Insty)

James D.

I would especially recommend:

“A Very Merry Mix Up”
“The Nine Lives of Christmas”
“Christmas Under Wraps”
“The Christmas Shepherd”
“Trading Christmas”
“The Mistletoe Inn”


sbw, thank you.

Love personified.
Grandparents are a special blessing. I was fortunate to have all four of mine well into my teens.



Thanks for letting us hang around here for so many years. Hope you and yours have a very Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to everyone else too.

Clarice Feldman

Thanks, SBW.


That was lovely SBW. Thank you!

Thomas Collins

Merry Christmas from Worcester (daughter-in-law's family is feeding me). Our itinerary takes us to Worcester, Needham (oldest child and son-in-law's family), and West Roxbury (friends of the family). And I received good Christmas gifts. For example, youngest child, who knows how skilled I am at putting holes in socks, got me a supply for 2018! Son and daughter-in-law are getting plenty of gifts for their soon to be greeting the earth daughter (due date is January 28th).

Thomas Collins

Biggest disappointment was oldest telling me she tried to get me an online subscription to the Rome Sentinel, but was informed only the paper version can be the subject of a gift. I may remedy this by giving myself an online subscription as a new year's gift.


Wolf ShitStir is kidding himself.
Wolfie my friend, was it common to hear LIBTARDS saying MERRY CHRISTMAS the last 8 years. Mr ShitStir, don't bull shit us, we know what you are about.

Lanie Kazan has a net worth of 5 MILLLLLION DOLLARS.


Merry Christmas! Onward and upward for a terrific 2018.


brillant and lovely piece for the season sbw. thanks for sharing.


What is the name of JUGEARS Christian church?

Jim Eagle

sbw, I started to tear up reading Fritz Updikes wonderful reminences of live in simpler times.

When I was a young boy of 12, we moved from Newfoundland to the Plattsburgh area (USAF brat) and because they were building the new base there was no base housing. First we lived in a home in Plattsburgh that was owned by the Chair of the Romance Languages dept at Plattsburgh-SUNY who was on sabbatical in Rome for a year.

After the labor strike and our temporary duty down at McCoy AFB (now Orlando International Airport:) we came back to Plattsburgh and my Dad decided to buy a farm south of town in the Keesville, Ausable Chasm area. It came equipped with a horse drawn cutter sleigh which we found out was an original Albany. My Dad and the farmer next to us, a Mr. Arthur, restored it and painted it a bright red with white piping.

He loaned us one of his team horses and showed my Dad how to handle the reins and we spent many a winter day and eveninog enjoying sleigh rides across the fields. Down the road from us was the Forrence family of the Forrence Apple Orchards and Cold Storage business. I think they were the largest MacIntosh growers in the States. Their son, Virgil was an All-American at Cornell. My boyhood hero.

The farmhouse was 18th century with embossed tin ceiling panels and in the foyer a ceiling hook to hang the tree from during Christmas. And boy, did those hearty upstate snowbound rural families know how to spend Christmas, much the same as Fritz's grandparents. To this day my most vivid memories are at that farmhouse and the neighbors.

Again, thanks for sharing.


Merry Christmas to you and your family, TM! Thank you for all you do for us.

Merry Christmas, JOM! It is truly a great one. Very thankful.

MM, thank you for that exhaustive Mar-a-Lago link. It took me over an hour just to scroll through all the photos!

glasater, xoxo. Here's to meeting more JOMers in the future!

"All out of darkness we have light
Which made the angels sing this night"

--Sussex Carol

Jim Eagle

Wow. The Forrence family is still in business growning MacIntosh. Run by Virgil's great-grandson, Seth. Boy am I old. And it wasn't Cornell but Ithaca Conservatory and in Violin. I don't remember him playing anything musical. But here is a damn interesting article about apples, hail, labor and Jamaica.


Sometimes temporary immigration may be a necessity.

Texas Liberty Gal

rich - Rey was the least of the movie's problems.

We haven't seen the movie yet but I think my hubby has a point why people aren't seeing it in the 1st place.


Thank you for posting that lovely column, sbw and for publishing it in your newspaper.


I was in a furniture store in Hickory, NC, sometime around 1995 and they featured a bed they said they'd sold to Donald Trump. I think this is it. It was around $11,000.



was informed only the paper version can be the subject of a gift.

TC, I dodn’t know that. We’ll get on it!

I’m glad you all enjoyed the column as much as I do.


Christmas was a little strange this year, as my sister and husband did not come over, due to a 72 hour stomach flu. I can't ever remember having spent a Christmas Eve without my kid sister, although there must have been some, since I am 8 years older than she.


I only like the first one. You're given an impression that the Jedi Knights have special powers and elevated awareness/ethics. But in the last episode I saw they were shockingly common and lightweight.

Thomas Collins

No problem, sbw. By the way, my oldest tells me that "Twas the Night Before Christmas" (I know that's not the official name, but that's how I think of it) first appeared in your publication. Is that true?

Jim Eagle


Wrong Sentinel. It was Troy, New York Sentinel in 1823. Troy is where RPI is located. Great college hockey team, not Bean Pot eligible but just as good. I have hired many an engineer from them.

Thomas Collins

OK, thanks, JiB.


Not only have the Obama's switched over to Merry Christmas, but ...
A BJG commenter inquires:

"Hussein tweets this Christmas greeting about 2 hours ago.
Nice family pic, huh? Only problem is the nice family pic is from 2013.

Why would he post a family pic that’s 4 years old? Especially when the Lil’ Obamlettes are obviously growing up, and 4 years makes a huge difference at this age. My Bozlets are 17 and 18…no way I would send out (or tweet) a Christmas pic from when they were 13 & 14.
Let the speculation commence…hmmm."

Texas Liberty Gal

JimNorCal - Last time they 'celebrated' Christmas?

Jim Eagle

For Clarice and JimmyK and any of our brethern Jews.

Chistmastime for The Jews:)


You're Welcome.

Dave (in MA)

JimNorCal, it's a gotcha post to counter Trump's claim that the prevalence of Merry Christmas this year is due to him, which has set the whole coexist gang off.

Dave (in MA)


I hope the Trump camp keeps repeatedly leaking info that they're getting rid of Mueller real soon.


Yummy! Nothing says Christmas in Florida like key lime pie for dessert!


someone, probably Ignatz, media goes out of the way to deny reality (a paraphrase), or to deny Christmases past, but the scene that plays in my mind

[light] [light] [light] [light]



[light] [light] [light] [light]


ME: FOUR LIGHTS, Can count 'em.



New York Sentinel in 1823

Our predecessor newspaper, the Rome Republican, began in 1821. It became the Democratic Sentinel in 1838. In 1854 my family began working there.


Just texted Momma who is walking our 3 dogs today along with Dartmouth, and Momma just replied that they spotted 3 wolves ahead on the trail. Yikes! Here's our back and forth from a few minutes ago:

Momma: Walking dogs

Me: Stay warm

Momma: 3 wolves blocking path
Had to leave

Me: Wow. Be very careful

Momma: With p at BLM trails now
Very determined
Lucky we saw and turned
Almost followed us

Me: Whoa. were the wolves healthy looking?

Momma: Kinda kept coming and then turning
Skinny but tall

Me: Yikes. Very scary.

Momma: At least 3
Will text later


Does Momma carry a .357, or just a 9mm?


Daddy, ask her what she named them. We have a new 8 ft gator in the lake and I named her gracie.


Well their potential powers were rather fantastic, but clearly they were not paying attention. A little grumpy Mark hamill goes a long way.


I love all the bragging (actually panic) about Obama's Christmas spirit.

Trump is just kicking their asses every which way including Sunday. And he's not even a religious person, which makes it even funnier. Has Melania held a prayer breakfast yet?



Momma today was carrying Bear Spray. She may re-evaluate.

We had a wolf pack on one of the trails 2 years back that I was aware of since they ate another hikers dog, but they are generally very secretive and you won't see them. A jogger on Elmendorf AFB nearby was killed a few years back by a wolf-pack but I don't see any reports of recent Wolf sitings in Anchorage.

Here was one caught on camera in Anchorage from a year back, hauling away a caribou carcass:

It'll be interesting hearing Dartmouth's take on the encounter when they get home. Should be exciting!

Beasts of England

I'll be there before lyle, JiB - he's snowed in!! ☃


daddy, would a 5-shot Taurus Judge .45 Long Colt/.410 shotshell revolver discourage several members of a pack of wolves so the others would depart?


Former Bush ethics lawyer thanks Trump for making Robert Mueller's job 'easier'

Using Twitter on Christmas Eve to intimidate a witness (McCabe) in a criminal investigation is not a very Christian way to celebrate the holiday. But it does make Mr. Mueller’s job easier and that’s a nice thing to do. Merry Christmas!

— Richard W. Painter (@RWPUSA) December 24, 2017


To all you dog lovers


The "Bush ethics lawyer" also tweeted a thank you to Obama for his Merry Christmas tweet.

Thank you Mr. President. We miss you. https://t.co/QO8NVnL70b

— Richard W. Painter (@RWPUSA) December 25, 2017

Oh, and Sally Yates makes an appearance in his feed as well.

Get better "ethics" lawyers.


I'm sure it would SBW. I was just looking at the Alaska Fish and Game link on how to deal with belligerent wolves if encountered on the trail: Living With Wolves

I'll make sure Momma reports them to BLM but my guess is she'll do that first thing when she gets in from the walk. She knows some of the Park Ranger guys just from bumping into them at the trail heads frequently. What a memorable Christmas walk:)


I notice his twitter feed includes him, a couple of other lib flunkies, and nobody else. Too bad, I was about to post my first tweet.


If the Washington Examiner were legitimate, it would report:

“... Richard W. Painter, Sen. Chuck Schumer’s spokes-shill for CREW ...”


Merry Christmas to all..🎄

Hoping everyone is blessed with peace & prosperity, today and always!

I am grateful for all the wit and wisdom , read at JOM, throughout the up's and down's of Life 😇 . ...and relieved there are more sensible, honorable people in the world, than what the decaying left liberal media/politicos want you to believe!


Dick Painter, please ask your CHRISTIAN friend Obama, where he and his children attended Christmas services.


The "Bush ethics lawyer" also tweeted a thank you to Obama for his Merry Christmas tweet.

Thank you Mr. President. We miss you.

Who's We?

Hamas? ISIS? The Nork's? The Iranian Mullahs? The Cuban Dictators? The Taliban? I know they all miss Obama, but who else are you including in that We? It definitely ain't me.

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