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January 05, 2018

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daddy

Anybody know if and/or when Statute Of Limitation times kick in in regard to Hillary related crimes as Sec State?

henry

The statute of limitations is the time limit for filing charges against the defendant. The general federal statute of limitations for felonies stand for the proposition that the government can no longer file criminal charges for an offense once 5 years has passed. The federal statute of limitations is 18 USC 3282.

Captain Hate

Game on:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=373253

daddy

Great link at 02:55 Miss Marple. Boy does that make a lot of sense.

Jane

SOL for crimes Hillary committed while SOS is Feb 1, 2018. So they better get crackin".

Davod

"SOL for crimes Hillary committed while SOS is Feb 1, 2018. So they better get crackin".

Maybe someone will argue the conspiracy is ongoing.

Jack is Back!

Jane,

Ron should run against Bill Nelson for Senate. Adam Putnam will clean his clock in the primary.

Porchlight

Wouldn't it be earlier? 5 years from the time the crimes were committed, rather than the time she resigned?

Of course you could potentially get her for destroying records or lying (which would be much later, during the investigation).

Captain Hate

I don't think there's any statue of limitations for mishandling classified docs.

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

The only thing that survived the Fire was the Glass Ceiling.

Posted by: garrett at January 05, 2018 02:38 PM (iCu30)

Tom R

Can the immunity deal given to everyone associated with Hillary's private email server get revoked on the basis that the FBI/DOJ investigators who granted the immunity were corrupt and were trying to protect Hillary?

daddy

Well if her Statute of Limitations is 1 Feb 2018, than all Sessions has to do is sit on the sidelines for another 3 weeks and he'll have the best excuse for inaction ever.

Old Lurker

Feb 1, 2018 is exactly why I was yakking about wasting all of 2017 to get cracking.

henry

update from th Chitown lurking unit:

Cummings hospitalized, wife drops gubernatorial bid.

The Infamous Ignatz

It's a bit frightening when you realize some unhinged peckerwood like Dworkin is the typical Barry clown filling our bureaucracy.

Jack is Back!

Yeah, but what if the next day, Hillary doesn’t she her shadow. Then what?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Ignatz,

Based on what I see on Twitter, probably the commie Axelrod and maybe Valerie Jarrett were the most level-headed. This Dworkin guy sees nothing at all untoward in accusing two sitting senators of treason.

Bonus: Neither does MSNBC, apparently.

sbw

Her retort to anyone who brings up my work is that she doesn't have to respond because no one reads my work.

She could have the courtesy not to engage in logical fallacies to rhetorically avoid answering the question.

She cheapens herself and comes across as someone with something to hide.

sbw

I saw that picture of AlGore and wondered about the anatomically strange position it represents.

I don’t think any normal human being could hold a hand to their face without getting a cramp.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Premise: Sessions and elements of the DOJ have been investigating the Clinton Foundation all year.

Supporting evidence:

1. All of those sealed indictments.
2. Increasing hysteria from dem circles.
3. Referral to DOJ of Steele.
4. Distractions set up one-by-one, like the President's tweets and the now infamous book. (Press has been preoccupied with that.)
5. Little Rock FBI office involved.

Some major players in the Clinton campaign and foundation seem to be pretty quiet, including Hillary and Bill as well as the Podestas.

What if the Foundation wasn't "pay to play" but rather international blackmail? What is Qatar paid $1 million to NOT be named a state sponsor of terror? What is some of the Saudi princes were threatened with 9/11 accusations, even though they weren't involved?

What if the meeting at Camp David isn't about the agenda as publicized, but is about certain security issues the Clintons compromised? I see no reason in a meeting such as they are having at Camp David to have the Secretary of defense and Homeland Security.

My bet is we have a very interesting week coming up.

Jane

Scott is running against Nelson, JIB

Jack is Back!

Lets start a list of Zippy’s dworks.

Marie Harf
Tommie Vitor
Ben Rhodes

Please add as you remember the crew of misfits that got us to MAGA time.

simply stupid

Jen Psaki- Marie Harf Bobbsie Twin or Dumb and Dumber

Clarice Feldman

I love Josh Mandel, a former marine and supported him everytime he ran. So sorry to hear he's dropping out.

As for Armand Hammer, he was a soviet stooge who Stalin made rich. He also bought John L Lewis besides Gore Sr and who knows who else. He was a beast to women as the New Yorker once documented. .

Old Lurker

6. Two full moons in January.
7. Cold weather in the Northeast.
8. Chilly oranges in Florida.

This is fun!

:-)

Just joshin you MM.

maryrose

Daddy:
Josh Mandel is a straight arrow, a really good guy.
A guy named Gibbons might have a better chance of beating Brown.
Brown defeated Mandel the last time we had a Senate election.
May want to narrow the republican primary field.

Janet 🚬

Bernie Sanders Releases Odd Video Of Rich Men Asking For More Taxes

Here's that great old video of Patriotic Millionaires being asked to donate to the U.S. Treasury. They all declined - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9dfaSOn5o

simply stupid

You have obstruction of justice in 2015 for bleach biting so statute of limitation issue is of the table.

Jack is Back!

Jane,

I know. That is why DeSantis should primary him. Scott will get murdered by Nelson. But DeSantis can bloody him.

I know Ron. Did two find raisers in my home for him. Lots of yellow dog Dems who vote for a W or Trump but not a Scott over Nelson.

Look at Miami with its huge Cubano population replacing Ros-Letihen with a Dem.

Florida is becoming more and more deep purple because all the blue stat migration.

maryrose

Henry:
Please say he is retiring in 2018.
He is one person I can no longer abide as a representative after his awful treatment of the True The Vote people.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Old Lurker,

HA! I am an organizer, as you can see.

Those two full moons, however, might mean something:

And come tell me Sean O'Farrell, tell me why you hurry so
Hush a bhuachaill, hush and listen and his cheeks were all aglow
I bear orders from the captain, get you ready quick and soon
For the pikes must be together at the rising of the moon

At the rising of the moon, at the rising of the moon
For the pikes must be together at the rising of the moon
And come tell me Sean O'Farrell, where the gathering is to be
At the old spot by the river quite well known to you and me.

One more word for signal token, whistle out the marching tune
With your pike upon your shoulder at the rising of the moon
At the rising of the moon, at the rising of the moon
With your pike upon your shoulder at the rising of the moon

=========
I hope Clarice has her franchise ready!

maryrose

TomR:
Excellent question.
Let us bring charges against Hillary before the deadline.

simply stupid

Back to the religion aspect since wretchard tweets seem filled with them. Reality is that our time on this earth is currently limited and the question is what we do with that reality. The gamers who live in their own virtual reality believe in the Kinks Celluloid Heroes hence the purveyors of the Matrix decided to have their Berrys cut off no need for posterity sake since my masterpiece has been captured on celluloid. The realist among us hope that are off spring may fiigure out how to extend life and bridge the gap to the spirit that their ancestors instilled in them.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.wmal.com/2018/01/05/congressman-cummings-admitted-to-hospital-just-hours-after-wife-drops-governor-race/?platform=hootsuite

simply stupid

and in metoo spirits why can we not have the restraining orders unsealed and show how despicable Sherrod really is.

sbw

In a previous thread a pool was considered for those in the media ... um ... engaged with Fusion GPS.

I think it unlikely but the vindictiveness with which she writes suggests AP’s Judith Pace.

Certainly the list should include anyone on the old Journolist.

Jack is Back!

Great fan of The Duliners, MM. Seen them many a time in Ireland when I was doing business, golf and theater outings while in London.

derwill

You ledge dwellers (of which I must admit, I am sometimes one) need to admit that the Clintons sure seem to besieged on a lot of fronts right now. Investigation into her emails re-opened, investigation into Uranium One, investigation into the Clinton Foundation and pay to play, also its taxes and whether they used Foundation funds for personal expenses, investigation into the phony dossier which she paid for.

That's a lot of lawyers they're going to have to hire. Provided they can find any that aren't already working for Mueller and the SC . . .

Jack is Back!

...Dubliners....

The Infamous Ignatz

--Based on what I see on Twitter, probably the commie Axelrod and maybe Valerie Jarrett were the most level-headed.--

Isn't that sick? Two red diaper a-holes raised by actual Stalinists are the least cracker-dog of the bunch.

The Infamous Ignatz

I'd like a crack at holding my hand over Al Gore's face.

Jack is Back!

BTW,

They were getting on in the late nineties when I last saw them. PUK may have known them since they played with The Pogues.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Ignatz,

Indeed. If you ask me, those 2 were the behind-the-scenes manipulators and the rest were just dim bulbs and stooges.

And that includes Obama and his wife.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Jack,

I knew I had heard that song. I used to listen to recordings of The Dubliners. Some of their songs got picked up by either the Chad Mitchell or Kingston trios, I think.

Something about Old Lurker's 2 full moons comment struck a chord in me and I remembered that old song. I had forgotten the mention of "pikes on our shoulders" until I pulled the lyrics up.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Thomas Wictor has some comments on Joe Scarborough, the infamous book, and Trump's intelligence.

https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/949379675385618434

Jack is Back!

SS,

If you listen to my son, Frederick, you will be interested in his latest idea in BioPyshics which is engineer Superman either genetically or via post-birth surgical intervention. Some of his designs and engineering specifics are a little off-setting but in all science fiction there is more than a kernel of reality.

Jack is Back!

MM,

Clarice and OL will get a kick out of this but the first time I saw The Dubliners was at Matt Kane’s in DC.😜

Buckeye

Periodontist harvested soft tissue from the roof of my mouth to do the gum repair.

Bled like a stuck pig for a couple hours until I resorted the black tea bag trick.

Worked like a charm.

Old Lurker

JiB...Matt Kanes:

http://whenwashingtonwasirish.blogspot.com/2010/10/matthew-j.html

 narcisoyea

That was the ptemuse in Bourne legacy, the outcome program used viruses to inject genetic upgrade material,

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I mentioned that Executive Order on the 21st. This guy has a good explanation of what is going on, and the article was recommended by Charles Ortel, an expert in securities and charity fraud.

https://medium.com/@zachhaller/hillarys-goose-is-cooked-4128a8314800

Jack is Back!

OL,

Remember when Duke Zieberts and Mel Krupin we’re across the street from each other on Connecticut? Preferred Mel’s for the pickles but Dukes for the Martinis.

matt- deplore me if you must

Am more of a Chieftains fan. Listened to a lot of live "boys behind the wire" and other Irish revolutionary/patriotic songs back in the day. Glad that they're not killing each other lately.

Van Morrison is a cousin's neighbor in Co Galway. He is still incredible both live and recorded. Saw him with Dylan a couple of years ago. Amazing.

Don't forget to add the toxic Samantha Power to that crew of liars and knaves.

Marlene

We need to get up to speed on Florida politics.
We'll be voting here in November. I had a good laugh today while shopping,watching the women wearing winter boots and heavy coats.

Ouch,Buckeye! Yes,the black tea bag trick works.

Extraneus

Here's that great old video of Patriotic Millionaires being asked to donate to the U.S. Treasury.

Good one, Janet!

Extraneus

Did you see the doofuses in the one I linked?

Jack is Back!

Matt,

Loved The Chieftans. Different sound and prescence due to the instrumentality. Dubs more poetic and lyrical but both hauntingly beautiful.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

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I have no idea what this means, but given the events of the last few days, I am sure going to keep my eyes open!

Janet 🚬

Yeah. It is the same crew. Daily Caller had "odd video" in the latest title, but I thought it was OLD video. I forget when that patriotic millionaire meme was pushed...I think 2010 or 2011.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/04/house-committee-chairman-announces-he-wont-seek-re-election/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

Jack is Back!

Marlene,

North Florida and South Florida totally different. Big Blue money goes south. The fireman and policeman go just above Orlando. Housing costs primarily. Lots of weird demographics in Florida because it is now closer to 60 or 70% blue or less red state migrants.

Get local. Only way to know.

Janet 🚬

Want to send more of your own money to the federal government?...DO IT.
No laws need to be changed. You can just do it:

Financial gifts can be made by check or money order payable to the United States Treasury and mailed to the address below.

Gifts to the United States
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Funds Management Branch
P.O. Box 1328
Parkersburg, WV 26106-1328

https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsfaq/faq_gifts_to_govt.htm

 narcisoyea

Premise, also that prometheus man novel I referenced earlier last year.

Extraneus

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-04/rich-people-are-fleeing-connecticut

They're not donating either?

daddy

This from MM's 02:55 link to Sundance's twitter makes great sense to me and seems huge, but I'd be interested in flaws in his reasoning and mine that I am missing:

3. Senators Graham and Grassley *HAVE* reviewed documents and interviewed members of the FBI.

5. ... Grassley and Graham are contrasting documents, surrounding the "Steele Dossier", against FBI statements made in combination with those documents.

6. There is a discrepancy between the documents (provided by the FBI) which surround and outline Steele's talks with the FBI, and the statements from the FBI officials who have talked to Grassley and Graham.

7. Meaning, what the FBI is attributing to Christopher Steele, is not in alignment with the underlying evidence of what was claimed by the FBI investigators.

8. Either Christopher Steele is lying to the FBI, *OR*, the representations to Senator Graham and Grassley by the FBI officials are false.

9. Based on the documents, and based on the evidence, someone is lying.

10. Graham and Grassley believe they know who's lying (so do I), and it ain't Christopher Steele - who carries no motive to lie.

11. The fibbers are the ones who hold the motive to lie. That would be the FBI officials who are trying to hide their 2016 use of the Steele Dossier in their counterintelligence operation. (ie. getting the FISA warrant etc.)

12. So instead of telling calling out the FBI as liars. Graham and Grassley file a criminal referral requesting the DOJ prosecute Christopher Steele as a liar.

13. Graham and Grassley know the end result of the DOJ following their request would be to discover it's the FBI who are not telling the truth.

daddy

Good Morning! Eighteen inches of snow at our place in Maine. A mere flurry. :)

Posted by: Marlene

No Marlene,

In this Brave New World of East Cost Media Mega Weather Euphemisms I believe an 18 inch flurry is now called a
Winter Cosmic Asteroid,
Winter Cosmic Asteroid,
Winter Cosmic Asteroid!

Extraneus

Did anyone link Charles Ortel's latest?

Here’s Why There May Be No More Free Passes for the Clinton Foundation

A new Department of Justice probe of the email and charity fraud scandals won't end well for Bill or Hillary

He calls out Mueller, Comen, and Rosenstein, too.

Extraneus

Makes sense to me, daddy. Why go after the FBI directly if you can get them through Steele?

Btw, are we less inclined to accuse Sessions of sleeping at the wheel today than we were yesterday? I know I am.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/new-jersey-real-estate-broker-pleads-guilty-role-foreign-bribery-scheme-involving-800-million

I wonder if some of the information on this came from the Saudis.

henry

Ext, see statute of limitations discussion above. Elmer's nap only needs 3 more weeks for Hilligula to walk free. I will enjoy the show from the ledge, but rule of law is doomed.

daddy

...are we less inclined to accuse Sessions of sleeping at the wheel today than we were yesterday?

Hopefully Ext, but ask me after lunch, since Reps. Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan called for his resignation yesterday, as did former Rep Chaffetz, and also every panelist on Maria Bartiromo's Show this morning.

DOW flirting with 25,300!!!

Up 220 points!

 narcisoyea

Probably Qatar, since they hold so many cards.

Porchlight

We need to get up to speed on Florida politics.
We'll be voting here in November.

Vote for the Republican.

Thank you and you're welcome. :)

Old Lurker

I enjoyed reading the link MM posted at 4:42 about Hillary's goose being cooked by Trump's EOs targeting the assets of bad guys. The reading was uplifting because the writer laid out with certainty the chain that leads or will lead to the gallows.

But then, but then toward the end he states that Lindsey Graham confirmed the the Dossier was indeed used as the basis for the FISA spying on Trump and he lost me right there. As we discussed here, while thew Dossier was almost certainly used for that purpose, and while Graham certainly used words encouraging that conclusion, the words Graham actually used did not say that.

So poof goes the uplifting nature of the whole piece...though I will still dream that he is right anyway.

Porchlight

Btw, are we less inclined to accuse Sessions of sleeping at the wheel today than we were yesterday? I know I am.

Who's "we"? ;)

GUS

Buckeye and Capn. Best Josh Mandel quote EVAH!!!

"Hey, I heard you beat your wife."

Brown was not amused.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/president-trump-takes-maga-team-to-camp-david/

"…Because, well, I mean, hey, who doesn’t take their CIA Director to organize a meeting of 2018 legislative priorities?…’n stuff…"

I am telling you guys, something is up. Now you can laugh at me all you want, but something is sure as heck going on.

Extraneus

he lost me right there

Sheesh. Why do they do it? Do they imagine that they've seen the evidence that confirms their suspicions?

henry

The world is going to click bait. Unconnected dots claiming a completed structure. They might as well post pictures of clouds.

Extraneus

What if the legislative priorities include intelligence-related changes? FISA court? NSA limits?

They'd want the CIA, DIA, DHS and others there.

Sundance jumping to conclusions again.

Captain Hate

When its all said and done, I really think the Democrats will wish they had just taken their lumps in the election and just been honest they lost because they had such a horrible candidate.

Instead, they went down this road that will probably lead to all sorts of exposure of the Deep State/MSM/Democrat Nexus of corruption.

But they had too much pride to say Trump beat them fair and square.
Posted by: Maritime at January 05, 2018 05:26 PM (lKmt3)

JimNorCal

Noted at BJG.

More winning:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/05/food-stamp-recipients-down-2m-under-trump-usda-figures-show.html

 narcisoyea

In the field of faction:
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_2.htm

The Infamous Ignatz

How did this "Steele dossier used for FISA" claim become the touchstone for unwarranted speculation?
It's one of the least cockamamie speculations I've heard, especially in light of the nth dimensional chess matches supposedly being played.

GUS

The money shot.

{{She also got a...RESTRAINING ORDER... to keep him from harassing or annoying her and from "doing bodily harm." In a supporting affidavit, she said she was "in fear for the safety and well-being of myself and our children due to (Brown's) physical violence and abusive nature."

She later sought to keep Brown from going further than the curb when he came to pick up their young daughters for visitation. She said in a supporting affidavit that Brown "intimidated, pushed, shoved and bullied" her on several occasions.}}}

Extraneus

Posted by: Maritime

Great comment, Captain.

derwill

I'm not going to speculate on why all those people will be at the Camp David meeting--but that is a lot of people!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455051/trump-obama-compare-results

Victor Davis Hanson on the contrast between Obama and Trump.

Captain Hate

As much as I complain about Brown, I jab him by calling him Restraining Order simply because he's such a hypocritical goof. Truth be known, it was probably a spat between two horrible parents using their children as pawns while trying to play spiteful games on each other. That Brown hasn't hauled off on his current mouthy fatassed wife might mean that he's just as bad of a person as she is. Or deaf.

henry

CH, maybe she hits harder than he does.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


KKFX My Fox 11
‏ @KKFXFox11
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#BREAKING: The area surrounding the Naval Base Ventura County Pleasant Valley Road gate has been evacuated after possible explosives were detected inside a person's backpack

http://www.keyt.com/news/safety/evacuations-at-naval-base-ventura-county-after-k-9-detects-possible-explosives/682075616

Captain Hate

From the VDH article:

Even the supposed great divide of 1981 did not mean that Jimmy Carter had been as left-wing as Ronald Reagan was right-wing. Carter’s fight against inflation and renewed defense build-up was continued in part by Reagan

That's just nonsense. Whatever Carter did against inflation was absolutely counterproductive and things got noticeably worse. Reagan was the only President to take the difficult steps to beat inflation since it started up under Landslide Lyndon. And Carter was disgraceful on military spending with helicopters crashing in the desert on the halfassed Iranian hostage rescue that never had a chance.

lyle

Friday's WSJ, in its "Mansion" section (which I despise) has an article on another Idaho mountain town, McCall, contrasting it with Sun Valley. It's pretty clear the writer has spent little time in either location. One question: is Larry Carlton playing in McCall this weekend? 'Nuff said...😎

lyle

I can't believe VDH wrote that, CH. It's on par with him calling both Zippy and W, "brawlers" in a piece a month ago.

cathyf
The general federal statute of limitations for felonies stand for the proposition that the government can no longer file criminal charges for an offense once 5 years has passed. The federal statute of limitations is 18 USC 3282.
So Bleachbit was third week of March, 2016, right?

("It's not the crime, it's the coverup...")

anonamom

Here's the stuff Mike Allen and Jim van de Hei say "rings true" from the book of lies, gossip and some true stuff:

https://www.axios.com/the-wolff-lines-on-trump-that-ring-unambiguously-true-2522675021.html

henry

They almost included the gorilla channel anonamom.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Sorry about the Hanson article. I only skimmed it.

Carter was why I became a Republican, so I should have paid more attention.

Extraneus

Heh, cathyf.

maryrose

Cathyf:
Did you have a nice Christmas and New Year?
I thought of you when Notre Dame won their Bowl game (Citrus Bowl)

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