My Woody Allen Boycott Gains Traction

OK, I have been boycotting Woody Allen since the Soon Yi Previn debacle burst into the news in the early 90's, but Hollywood is finally getting on board. Slow trainwreck coming.

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[sbw]

I’ll boycott with you, TM.

First, maybe.

[yummmm]

Is this the bacon or liver thread???

[Frau Leber mit Speck und Zwiebeln]

With onions? ...triple "lecker"

[Frau Leber mit Speck und Zwiebeln]

Put Woody in the pedophile to ephebophiliac ward.

[Captain Hate]

Allen is a talented filmmaker and a real creep. People have to figure out how to deal with that. When the only person who will go on record and defend him is Alec Baldwin, with his large collection of issues, things aren't looking good for Woody.

[Frau Leber mit Speck und Zwiebeln]

"Allen is a real creep and a talented filmmaker."
First things first for me, CH.

[daddy]

Well Woody may have not been the first to have pedophile sex but at least he was first to have Robot sex.

Hey, Jimmy, I got one of those Echo Spots the other day. It's a very cool gadget, and you can turn off the camera (or put a piece of tape over it if you don't' trust Amazon to actually turn it off). Liked it so much I ordered an Echo Show, her big sister.

Posted by: Extraneus

Anybody else think Ext's "cool gadget" looks an awful lot like Woody's sex orb?

[exdemocrat]

ok, time to liven things up a bit:

does an artist's personal character (or lack of) necessarily determine whether their art is of any value?

can't say i know, or care, much about mozart's sexual proclivities

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

The last time I liked Woody Allen at all was when he was a stand-up comic just getting started and apppeared on the Ed Sullivan Show.

I was about 12 so I probably liked him because I thought he was sophisticated or something.

[Extraneus]

According to their story, the romantic relationship started when Soon Yi was 21.

According to Wikipedia:

Soon-Yi Previn was born in South Korea. Previn's true age and date of birth are unknown, but are estimated based on a bone scan;[1] her passport indicates a date of birth of October 8, 1970.[2] According to Vanity Fair, Previn's biological mother was a prostitute who would slam a door on Soon-Yi's head as a form of punishment.[1] Abandoned as a young child, Previn wandered around the streets of Seoul starving and living out of trash cans.[3] In 1978, Previn was adopted by Mia Farrow and André Previn and relocated to the United States;[4] at the time, she spoke no known language and reportedly battled learning disabilities.[1][4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soon-Yi_Previn

So in that case, wouldn't André Previn be the father figure?

Anyway, I don't know anything about these two besides what I just looked into but I wish people would just leave them alone.

[henry]

Bezos wants Ext to clean his room.

[bunky]

Crimes and Misdemeanors is a great, great movie

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

exdemocrat,

In the olden days we didn't know about artist's personal lives. For example, I didn't know about David Niven's political opinions or Cary Grant's sex life. I didn't know Danny Kaye was gay until after his death, as he didn't talk about it.

However, when they come out and tell us all of this stuff and get on Twitter and berate those who don't agree with them. then they leave me no choice, since by doing that they are asking me to approve them with support.

I will not.

[sbw]

does an artist's personal character (or lack of) necessarily determine whether their art is of any value?

Of course not. But I don’t have to watch a Patriot’s game either.

[daddy]

does an artist's personal character (or lack of) necessarily determine whether their art is of any value?

Good question, Exdem.

Here's my fav landscape by Adolf Schicklegruber, who I think we can all agree had a character flaw or two.

[Skoot]

PDT resting heart rate is 68. W's was in the mid 50's, as I recall, making him very fit for his age - probably most fit president. Obama not so much, despite one reporters question trying to frame as such. Trump would run laps around choomhead.

Oh well. I guess the press has to go back to Defered Action on Shitholer's emergency non-emergency.

[Extraneus]

My father knew Cary Grant was gay. I remember as a little kid my mother saying "That's a lie!"

My father was the superintendent of the mid-town Manhattan building Grant had an office in.

[Extraneus]

Ray Charles had an office there, too.

[daddy]

Yikes! Tough picture, Ext.

Who's older, Woody or his daughter?

[exdemocrat]

agreed, MM, but what about someone who doesn't do that? can someone who happens to be a complete shithole of a person produce great art?

[exdemocrat]

"... who I think we can all agree had a character flaw or two."

not sure about all, daddy - Maryrose may want to 'see how things work out.'

[Captain Hate]

I was about 12 so I probably liked him because I thought he was sophisticated or something.

He was different; I remember Father Hate really disliked his standup act back when he used to be on the late night shows. I just watched a YouTube of a 65 performance and can see why he turned off a lot of people.

[Captain Hate]

can someone who happens to be a complete shithole of a person produce great art?

Enough about Picasso.

[sbw]

Can a paradigm of correctness produce great art? Who?

[maryrose]

His movies are real classics.
Take the Money and Run is hysterical.
Annie Hall of course won the Oscar and Allen got it for director.
A psychological drama with Martin Landau also good.
No one has a better handle on New York and Manhattan.
His depiction of California is really funny.
Keaton of course had the real acting chops.

[mad jack]

sbw: hey. i'm not aware of a patriots - woody allen connection. im sure TM will have a patriots bashing thread soon enough:-)

[GUS]

I don't like Wood for Soon Yi, but all the #metoo's loves them some Roman Poledanceski.

[Captain Hate]

Can a paradigm of correctness produce great art? Who?

Jane Austin. Robert Duvall.

[GUS]

I know JUGWEARS von KOOL is SHITHOLIER THAN THOU,
but his PROSE......is DYN-O-MITE!!!!
"Underground" (by Barack Obama)
Barack Obama wrote this poem as an undergraduate:

Underground

Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.

– Barack Obama

Hat tip/Bill Ayers.

[Captain Hate]

Henry James.

[Marlene]

Oh,I love these inquiring mind stories. :) The memoirs of celebrities and rock stars are my guilty pleasure. Years ago I read Mia Farrow's book and she mentions that she never mentioned her father's (John Farrow) affair with Ava Gardner while she was married to Sinatra. Fun fact: Mia's mother was Tarzan's girlfriend.
I've always wondered how these Hollywood nutcases are able to adopt children. Joan Crawford? Madonna? Mia Farrow?

[maryrose]

Thank you bunky for the title Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Took an ethics class in which that movie was part of the discussion and the final.
Exdem: Yes I admit I like to see how things work out and give people the benefit of the doubt.
I like you even though you have voted for democrats in the past, something which I have never done.

[daddy]

I liked Woody Allen a lot and I think many of his movies are terrific. Haven't seen a new one in a decade tho' and won't ever pay to see another one again. Growing up knowing nothing whatever about New York but Bowery Boy movies, I think the image I have of Manhattan and New Yorkers is about 90% a creation of Woody Allen.

I still love how Dennis Prager will use scenes from Woody Allen's movies to kick off talks on his Ultimate Issues Hour. The other day he played the clip of the young Woody refusing to do his homework because he learned the Universe will die someday so whats the use of doing your homework: Kicked off a great discussion by Prager.

Mrs. Singer: He's been depressed. All of a sudden, he can't do anything.
Dr. Flicker: Why are you depressed, Alvy?
Mrs. Singer: Tell Dr. Flicker. It's something he read.
Dr. Flicker: Something you read, huh?
Alvy Singer: The universe is expanding.
Dr. Flicker: The universe is expanding?
Alvy Singer: Well, the universe is everything, and if it's expanding, someday it will break apart, and that will be the end of everything.
Mrs. Singer: What is that your business? He's stopped doing his homework.
Alvy Singer: What's the point?
Mrs. Singer: What has the universe got to do with it. You're here, in Brooklyn. Brooklyn is not expanding.
Dr. Flicker: It won't be expanding for billions of years yet, Alvy. And we've gotta try and enjoy ourselves while we're here. Huh? Huh? Huh? [laughs]

I feel for Dennis Prager. He obviously loves or has loved the works of Woody Allen, and he loves Jonah Goldberg and Ben Shapiro personally, along with a few others old friends, yet he now has to deal with his heart liking them but his mind and wisdom being torn apart due to their irrational Anti-Trumpism.

[maryrose]

Marlene:
Maureen O’Sullivan, Mia’s mother was in Allen’s Hannah and Her Sisters.
Mia was in many of Allen’s movies and when he left her for Previn. She had very few film roles.
Just an average actress in my opinion.

[daddy]

Can a paradigm of correctness produce great art? Who?

Would the Sermon on the Mount count as great art?

[Momto2]

Donald Trump Jr.‏Verified account
@DonaldJTrumpJr

Now can we test the media for #TrumpDerangementSyndrome?

[daddy]

Jane Austin.

Great answer, Capt.

[daddy]

Fun fact: Mia's mother was Tarzan's girlfriend.

Which one, Buster Crabbe or Johnny Weismueller?

[maryrose]

Daddy:
Have always been a Woody Allen fan.
Loved that he named his son Satchel but then Mia renamed him.
Never thought he would marry, as he was a bachelor for many years.
Annie Hall is on my top ten movie list along with Shawshank Redemption and Amadeus.

[maryrose]

Allen plays clarinet in a jazz club on Monday nights.

[daddy]

Maryrose,

Never seen Shawshank, but love scenes from Annie hall and Amadeus is great as well. My personal Woody Allen fav may be Bullets Over Broadway, and sadly, due to their political positions, I loathe 2 of it's stars, John Cusack and Meathead Rob Reiner. Oh well.

[clara]

Woody Allen is a pervert.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

exdemocrat,

I think the answer is yes. Michaelangelo was definitely afflicted with some sort of personality disorder, given his arguments with the Pope and other things. Van Gogh wasn't a particularly great personality. That water color by Schicklegruber is pretty attractive, which one would not have expected at all.

My daughter was an art major and I went to many student exhibitions. Although there was an assortment of what I term "scary art" there were also some beautiful pieces, many by students my daughter informed me were complete creeps.

[maryrose]

Daddy:
You must see Shawshank!
Every time I am just flipping through the channels, if it is on I watch it.
It is really a work of art.
Probably Morgan Freeman’s best film.

[Jane]

I'VE been out and about all day, but I walked in this afternoon when the MD was giving his press conference.

He was talking about the mental part where he tested Trump and he was extremely fit mentally. Next question: Did you test for Alzheimers? "Yes and he scored 70 out of 70 indicating his mental health is excellent."

So does that mean he may have dementia? "We have no signs of that and to the contrary he tested very well."

But surely that doesn't mean he is not insane?

At that point I had to leave to be out and about again.

Sad day for democrats.

Oh and Annie Hall was my favorite.

[Captain Hate]

Never seen Shawshank

You're missing something special. It momentarily makes me forget how much I despise Whoreyweird.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/01/16/out-trump-orders-cnn-star-jim-acosta-to-leave-oval-office-after-reporter-s-latest-outburst.html

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Brett Baier will interview General Kelly tomorrow on Special Report, live.

I may tune in for that.

[daddy]

I cannot tell you how much I had to go through to clear this up. They would not believe me. How can you "prove" you were not in New Jersey? I was only able to do it because I was a flight attendant at the time and was able to show my work schedule and that I had been in Germany that week.

Identity theft update.

3 months back someone tried to get the Post Office to reroute our mail from our Anchorage address to somewhere in LA. We were called and asked if that reroute was authorized and Momma was all over it, filing a Police Report etc. So we got a Case number and all the rest and the Post Office said the case was closed and situation resolved.

Two weeks back I sold some stock and was waiting for a check by mail that never arrived. We also were wondering where were my paystubs that I usually receive every 2 weeks. I was on the road in Memphis under the ice storm, and Momma called the Post Office and they were delivering our mail (the stuff addressed strictly to me) to the LA address. She went bananas when she found out that the perp renewed his request to have my mail sent to LA and the $%^&* Post Office complied with his request. My check was sent to the perp. Momma could not reach me on Friday since I was sleeping in Memphis during that horrible fiasco. Then for the last 80 hours I have been on the phone constantly trying like hell to stop payment on the check but all I could reach was computers, no humans, due to the Holidays, so no way to cancel the payment. That is why I have been staying up to 4 AM my time trying to get the damn humans to answer on their MLKing Holidays back on the East Coast, but they never came in to the Office until this morning.

Finally this morning, after a 50 minute wait on hold with 2 phones dialed, somebody answered and I was able to get the damn payment stopped in time. Frustrating as all hell and making it really difficult for me to sleep but what a relief. Today I have been back at the Post Office hollering and trying to make damn sure they never ever again allow some jackass in LA to go into the Post Office and say he is me and demand my mail be routed to some shithole address in LA, but the nutty thing is is that there appears to be no safeguards at the Post Office. They can close a case, but then he can try again and they process it and say OK. I hate the Federal Govt and Federal Govt employees. That Missile moron in Hawaii with the passwords written in the photo for all to see seems to me to be par for the course for Fed Employees.

Anyhow, that is why I have been awake so much lately and relatively insane if you have not noticed.

Standing by for suggestions.

My guess is the perp's game is to get new applications for credit cards, fills them out, runs the cards up to the max, then I get dunned months later and the IRS comes after me. Hell of a racket.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cloud-peak-in-deal-to-supply-coal-to-japan-1516137301?mod=e2tw

Powder River Basin, Wyoming to Fukushima Prefecture.

The rest of the article is behind the paywall, but that's good news for Wyoming.

[Janet 🚬]

Hah! THIS is how the press treated President Obama's health.

from 2015 - The WaPo goes into protective mode.
"Behold the courtier on his knees before his King." ~ lyle
Dennis Miller - "You know when I knew Obama was still smoking? When he said he quit smoking."

"Let President Obama have a cigarette, already"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/06/09/let-president-obama-have-a-cigarette-already/?utm_term=.dbe86cba317c

[Jim Eagle]

Will never catch up but what is the name for the new syndrome of comparing people to Stalin? Hitler comparison is the Godwin Rule.

I propose that the Stalin comparison be the Flake Rule.

[daddy]

Daddy:
You must see Shawshank!

Maryrose,

Momma loves it, but I have zero use nowadays for Tom Hanks, Morgan Freeman, Tim Robbins, etc, so sadly I have no interest. "Get off my lawn" is pretty much my attitude in watching any new movies.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jack,

I second the motion.

The Flake Rule sounds good to me.

It's the only thing he will be remembered for.

[Rocco]

Stalin Stylin

[Janet 🚬]

Hat tip/Bill Ayers.

Hahaahahha! Too funny, Gus!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Frank Thorp V
‏Verified account @frankthorp
22m22 minutes ago

COTTON just now: “I saw what Senator Durbin said, that he stood by every word he said. So let me be clear: I stand by every word I said, the difference is I’m right.”

[Momto2]

daddy - what is really frustrating is when they won't pursue the thief. No wonder they just turn around and do it again.

When my mom was in her 80's she wrote a $10 to the Salvation Army and mailed it from her home mailbox. Someone stole it out of the mailbox and got her bank acct. # - her signature to copy, etc. When we found out they had used it to pay a cable TV bill and a cell phone bill. (They also took over $1500 from her account.)

So, of course, they could identify the thief - but they explained they did not because it would take "too much time and $" to track them down, file a police report, have to appear in court, etc. etc. The bank stated it must be over 5 figures for them to pursue!

She never used her mailbox again for anything important. Whatever happened to law and order?

[jimmyk on iPhone]

I haven't really liked a Woody Allen movie since "Manhattan." Basically since he started making "serious" movies.

[Captain Hate]

Broadway Danny Rose was pretty funny and kind of unserious.

[Jim Eagle]

BTW, I have worked with some really smart and incredible individuals in my life, including George Shultz, Caspar Weinberger, a number of astronauts, Marine Generals, Navy Admirals and other high functioning people.

Listening to the idiots that are WH correspondents questioning Trump (an other prior POTUS' doctor) tells me they have never met one. sbw is one but he doesn't have idiots working for him, real news people.

My first boss was a crusty old guy who had graduated before WW2 from RPI as an engineer, served in the Navy, ran a damn minesweeper, lived, came back and joined the BIG company. No one ever questioned his mind or intelligence but he did some weird things like walking the laying beam unteathered 280feet up on a power plant to plant the flag.

These people in the WH press corps have convinced me that the mirror is pointing the wrong direction.

[jimmyk on iPhone]

"The bank stated it must be over 5 figures for them to pursue!"

We had a high 5-figure amount stolen, due to our bank's incompetent security. They restored the funds, but I don't know whether the perps were pursued or not. They caught the person trying to cash one of the bad checks, but apparently she wasn't the brains of the operation. Whether she gave anyone up we never heard, as it wasn't our case.

[sbw]

Dr. Jackson: Mr. President, you need more exercise so here is your new Peloton Bike with live studio experience.
Trump: Connected online? Great now I won’t need to tweet separately.
Jackson: No need. Your Twitter fans will be cycling with you.
Trump: And we get to choose whatever countryside view we want?
Jackson: Well, yes.
Trump: The mountains of Norway?
Jackson: If you want.
Trump: By Dick Durbin’s office in Chicago?
Jackson: Yes, but don’t call it a …
Trump: He already has.

[jimmyk on iPhone]

CH, I saw Broadway Danny Rose but don't remember it, which tells me that it was ok but nothing special.

Manhattan was a bit creepy in light of his real life, but still very funny.

[Jim Eagle]

Geez, I forgot what I wanted to post about until I read jimmyk.

Turned on the little TV by my desk and channel 13 the NY pbs channel came up. (NB: only watch it when they have high class concert music).

They were interviewing the guy who has written a book on the history of Jewish Comedy, including Mel Brooks, Rodney Dangerfield, even Jerry Seinfield and how it progressed through the years. It was fascinating since I am a huge fan of Jewish humor.

https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Comedy-Serious-Jeremy-Dauber/dp/0393247872/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1516148070&sr=8-1&keywords=history+of+jewish+humor

[Momto2]

Between the Senate hearing and the WH briefing with reporters, I think we've seen LOTS of mental illness on display today and NOT by our President!

Booker questions Secretary Neilsen -

Unhinged!

[GUS]

Buster Crabbe or Johnny Weissmuller?

What about Buster Hymen????

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Greta Van Susteren
‏ @greta
2h2 hours ago

Türk siber ordusu Ayyıldız Tim tarafından hacklendiniz! DM yazışmalarınızı aldık! Size Türkün gücünü göstereceğiz! ( You are hacked by the Turkish cyber army Ayyıldız Tim! We got your DM correspondence! We will show you the power of the Turk! ) 🇹🇷

======================================

This has gone on for the last 2 hours and Twitter has done nothing, despite numerous complaints by her followers.

[henry]

The man with the imaginary brain.

[Jim Eagle]

Hero of the Month: Admiral Ronny Johnson, MD

Possible POTUS nominee in the future. But he saw how stupid and uneducated the WH press corps is so he may pass.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jack,

My favorite lines from the press conference:

"If the president had a better diet, he'd live to be 200."

"I consider that tabloid psychiatry."

"He scored 30 out of 30 on the cognitive test."

"No, he doeson't wear any sort of dentures."

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
4h4 hours ago

Today, it was my honor to welcome President Nursultan Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan to the @WhiteHouse!

[Buckeye]

Daddy, the fraud crap I dealt with a couple of months ago appears to have occurred because the postal workers were stealing bank statements and peddling them.

Thirteen postal workers in Columbus are under indictment.

So pick your poison, incompetents in a brain dead bureaucracy, or thieves.

Either way, Fed oversight fails again.

[Comanche Voter]

Having reached my mid 70's, I get a cognitive test with every annual physical. I can't say that it proves anything one way or the other. It does prove I can probably find my backside with both hands and without a seeing eye dog. I'd venture to say that Chuck Schumer, Cory Booker, Dick Durbin --and absolutely Nancy Pelosi--couldn't pass the test.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1h1 hour ago

New report from DOJ & DHS shows that nearly 3 in 4 individuals convicted of terrorism-related charges are foreign-born. We have submitted to Congress a list of resources and reforms....

....we need to keep America safe, including moving away from a random chain migration and lottery system, to one that is merit-based.

https://www.dhs.gov/publication/executive-order-13780-protecting-nation-foreign-terrorist-entry-united-states-initial

[jimmyk on iPhone]

Greta must have used "password" for her Twitter password.

[Jim Eagle]

We are not all the problem here.

Congress is mostly lawyers who have never worked in industry or business or made a payroll in their life. Now they are faced with a non-politician. Someone who has worked every day in the private sector puttin skin in the game.

None of those assholes has ever done that.

[Janet 🚬]

Extraneus,

Our kids gave us one of those Echos for Christmas. We don't really know what to do with it.
So far we've made it bark & then we watch what Jess (our dog) does.

I think our daughter wants us to use it to video chat with her.

[Jim Eagle]

Jan
Fear not. Hook it up. Just ask it questions you want answers to, like what is the weather forecast? How long until July 4th? What is the main news today? Order a book for me? What dog should I get if I am lonely?

Try it. It is fun to stump it.

[Janet 🚬]

Hero of the Month: Admiral Ronny Johnson, MD

Like the military guy that answered that fool about Guam flipping over. He was so polite.
Something like, 'we don't anticipate that'.

I think I'd have a hard time not just sitting quiet, giving them the stink eye, & shaking my head.

[Jim Eagle]

...Jan = Janet....

[Buckeye]

Daddy, I would recommend some sort of credit monitoring.

If someone tries to establish credit in your name, you will be alerted, with therefore an opportunity to spend even more time on hold:(

[Jim Eagle]

I am still concerned about the questioning of the WH press corp. They are not realistic or even measured intelligence.

I want sbw's thoughts on this. Is this what jouralism is supposed to look like to the masses? It was weird. It is almost like they want a story to support their self-fullfilling prophecy.

What is going on here? I think journalism as you conduct it is at risk.

[maryrose]

JIB:
It is the media watching their latest ploy go up in smoke.
The desperation is going back to the the boss with no story to report.
Robbins in Shawshank,
Also does his best work.
Not to be missed
Saw Darkest Hour this weekend-Excellent

[Jim Eagle]

We are supposed to get snow then rain and snow then snow and rain and then rain and snow. Not Schitt.

It is confusion gone max. Have no idea what tomorrow will look like.

[henry]

Apparently @Jack's password was @password. Trump's Twitter has joined Greta's as hacked by "Turks."

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jack,

I don't know what to tell you about that press briefing with the White House doctor, except it revealed 90% of the White House press for the leftist fanatics that they are.

When I heard questions about dentures, I knew they were looking for a way to mock the President.

When I heard the question about whether the President has a drug addiction, I knew they were looking for a 25th amendment excuse.

When I saw Dr. Sanjay Gupta there from CNN, I knew they had hoped to compromise the White house physician.

There is no doubt in my mind that 90% of those reporters are enemies to this country. None whatsoever.

[maryrose]

What I like about Broadway Danny Rose is the scenes with the washed up performers and the talkfest at Carnegie’s Deli I believe.
Has that establishment closed? And is Elaine’s still around.
Jimmyk or JIB, have you ever eaten steaks at Peter Lugers?

[maryrose]

MM:
They are trying to get him and they are against him but they are failing miserably.
Don’t lose any sleep over it.

[narcisoyea]

Evening all, like I've said in the past early Allen, take the money and run, bananas sleeper, Annie hall is good for the mcluhan scene but that's about it.

[maryrose]

Is should be are

[Buckeye]

Have no idea what tomorrow will look like.

JiB. I can tell you what to expect because we just experienced it.

Tomorrow will be schitty day.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Sessions is on Tucker!

[narcisoyea]

The latest of griffins tales references him

http://businessinsider.com/otto-skorzeny-nazi-israel-2016-10

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

No concern by the MFM about Nanzi Palsi's mental competence? She sounds completely out of while mumbling half sentences that just trail off without making sense. Where's the objective need to find out how lucid she is that's applied to DJT?

[clara]

mm, You are right. Sessions has woken maybe.

[Jim Eagle]

Okay, guys and dolls, I am off to bed. Will be on the iPad. Today we sent Mrs. JiB back to Florida to supervise the end, I am hoping, of all the renovations. Frederick and I are batching it.

Tomorrow, bad weather expected. We deal with whatever ou hand is dealt. My Bearcats are playing UCF in BBall. Looks like a close game.

I hope OL is safe in the OZ region.

[sbw]

Is this what jouralism is supposed to look like to the masses?

No, it’s not journalism. It’s like Hollywood. The closer you get to the gravitational waves of power, the more warped it becomes. The more it is co-opted by the venal. The fourth estate is the same as any agency, subject to regulatory capture.

Credentials are no guarantee one can think, any more than a degree in public administration guarantees one can govern or a degree in education guarantees one can teach.

Credentials are little more than the modern equivalent of medieval guilds. Guilds restricted entry into crafts, allowing in only select and approved members. They constructed a protected and privileged circumstance for their own benefit, professing always to hold themselves to high standards for the benefit of consumers.

The craft of journalists often wrap themselves in claims of privilege. They see their job classification as raiment and title to make judgments about what the rest of us should believe. The credentialed were considered professional because the credentialed vouched for them.

If anything, the concentration of media power has accentuated inbreeding and conformist views. That is regulatory capture by a different path.
National media does not know how to get better. Or it may not care that it should. Meanwhile, those who consume journalism face a different problem.

Consumers are not lazy, but they are busy. Recent generations were schooled to put trust in experts. They defer to credentialed and/or experienced experts in government, politics, education, science and elsewhere. “Expert” became perverted to mean someone with credentials and/or experience.

Journalism isn’t the problem. The people who fall for it are. ... And that leads back to the federalization of schools.

[Catsmeat]

Man, you people are prodigious. To pick and choose since last night, re liver--once a week as a child, liver came my way, putatively because my father liked it. Ten years ago, I learn that my father can take or leave liver but that my mother (meal-provider) really liked it. So much torment, so many wadded bits in the napkin fed to Willie the schnauzer. The culprit (my mother) is now 83, and thus theoretically beyond reproach. I still hold a grudge.

Re the genius of artists (hmmph), Shelley (P. B.) is on record as saying that "poetry is the unacknowledged legislation of the world." Some wag finished that by saying "by unacknowledged legislators."

I thought the Schicklewhatever (to parallel Raji whats-his-name of today) painting was lovely--light and color and form all very harmoniously balanced. It's such a shame that bad people do good art, but there's no way round it (cf. Shelley, Picasso, long long list).

[clara]

mm, Sorry. Sessions has not woken. I watched the segment. Too bad.