Okay, cannot post an article from Sharyl Attikanson website. She must have a JavaScript protector. But if you go there you will see why the busiest guy in Washington is the one who makes all the office door nameplates.
FBI agent Strzok: "F*cking marchers making traffic problems."
FBI attorney Page: "Yeah, some extremely offensive video screens set up in front of district. I truly hate these people. No support for the woman who actually has to spend the rest of her life rearing this child, but we care about 'life.' Assholes."
FBI agent Strzok: "...Hey, I have an idea! Snow emergency, cancel the permit."
Dan Scavino Jr.
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Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
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My thoughts and prayers are with the two police officers, their families, and everybody at the @WestervillePD.
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This is in response to the announcement that both officers died.
From the Lee Smith Tablet piece Clarice linked on the last thread...
Informed sources in Washington have been whispering for months that Britain’s intelligence service, the Government Communications Headquarters, the U.K.’s version of America’s National Security Agency, was intercepting the emails and phone calls of Trump officials. “It’s not impossible,” a former high-ranking U.S. intelligence officer told me, “that the information came from the Brits. Under certain circumstances, we can search their database, and they can search ours. Our intelligence-sharing relationship with the U.K. is much closer than it is with anyone else, by far the closest we have. But something like that wouldn’t be routine in our relationship.”
...
The former CIA director has some questions to answer, then. What precisely was his role in initiating the FBI probe into the Trump team’s possible ties to Russia? Will he disclose where the intelligence actually came from? Was it volunteered by one of America’s closest allies, or did U.S. officials request to search allies’ databases for the communications of American citizens? If so, under what authority were American allies being used to help an American intelligence agency spy on a domestic political campaign?
Huh? So no FISA warrant required? "U.S. officials" can just spy on Americans by simply searching British databases?
one of the more interesting effects of Twitter - and especially PDJT's use of it - is how it has impacted the news cycle.
the weekends are no longer an undefended MSM free-fire zone.
New Co-Ed curling for this Olympics. Each Olympics they try something different, usually if the host country is really good at it. I don't think the SoKo are that good at curling but who knows.
They have always had mixed curling (I don't know about the Olympics) but these people have only 2 people on the team. Both skip, both sweep every shot, it's very weird.
dady will attest that it is a true Jewish deli. The guy who founded it, Max Shapiro, passed away a few years ago, and now his kids and grandkids run it. They make their own corned beef and pastrami, have a killer cheesecake, serve matzoh ball soup and potato latkes, and of course, cream soda!
My mother used to eat there when she was attending Butler and frequented downtown. I can remember her taking us there when we were little. I distinctly remember the cream soda!
Loved that video clip of JugEars telling Romney that the "Cold War has been over for 20 years" and that the Russkis are not our enemy. Hillary and Adam Schiff and Chuck You Schumer obvisouly didn't get the memo.
Posted by: exdemocrat | February 10, 2018 at 04:29 PM
uuug ... True Pundit.
the reporting on the trump tower meeting always makes my teeth itch ... there was a single Russian in the room, the Typhoid Natahsa lawyer ... her translator was an American, another lobbyist is a nationalized American from some vaguely Slavic decent, and I'm forgetting the 4th person there when she starting prattling on about adoptions of Russian kids
... I also thought she was given an immigration amnesty (not a visa) because she represented, in some vague way, Katsyv (some other Russian dude who has run afoul of US law) in a New York case. Why her immigration amnesty was so overly broad that she could go to Trump Tower (the meeting), show up for a screening of an anti-Magnitsky film at the Newsuem, and show up at a Congressional hearing on the Magnistsky sanctions is anyone's guess.
Chapter one is the life of Mary Anning, the young fossil hunting girl in south coastal England in Lyme Regis. In the very early 1800's, at about age 11, she started finding ichthyosaur skeletons imbedded in the seaside cliff walls near her home and became expert at digging these things out and passing them on to early Natural History pioneers in London, leading after a few decades to the discovery and early understanding of Dinosaurs!
From Chapter 1:
...In 1792, war erupted in Europe and it became dangerous for the English gentry to travel on the Continent. Many of the well-to-do classes adopted the resorts of the south coast of England. The dramatic scenery around Lyme Bay became a favorite among those who spent part of the season at Bath. In the summer, smart carriages often lined the Parade and the steep narrow streets that nestled into the hillside. The novelist Jane Austen was among those who visited early in the 19th Century. She was charmed by the High Street, 'almost hurrying into the sea', and 'the very beautiful line of cliffs stretching out to the east.' The Cobb curving around the harbor became the dramatic setting for scenes in her new novel "Persuasion." It was here that Louisa Musgrove fell 'lifeless...her eyes closed, her face like death', and was nursed back to health by the romantic sea captain.
Jane Austen's letter to her sister, Casandra, reveal that during her short stay she met an artisan in the town by the name of Richard Anning. He was summoned to value the broken lid of a box and, according to Jane Austen, was a sharp dealer. She told her sister that Anning's estimate, at five shillings, was 'beyond the value of all the furniture in the room together.'
What we then learn was that Richard Anning, a poor carpenter, was the father of Mary Anning. But then we learn that Mary Anning died horribly at age 4 from being left alone in a room with a fireplace and her clothes catching on fire. Ughh and awful, but then shortly after the Anning's have another baby girl so naturally they name her Mary as well. That's the one that became the famous fossil hunter. The book says her life was also touch and go in that at age 2 there was a festival just out of town everyone attended, young Mary being carried by a nurse.
...Then, in the words of the local schoolmaster, George Robert's: 'a vivid discharge of electrical fluid ensued, followed by the most awful clap of thunder that any present ever remembered hearing, which re-echoed around the fine cliffs of Lyme Bay. All appeared deafened by the crash. After a momentary pause a man gave the alarm by pointing to a group that lay motionless under a tree.'
There were 3 dead women, among them Mary's nurse, Elizabeth, whose hair, arm and cap along the right side were 'much burnt and the flesh wounded.' She was still holding the baby, who was insensible and could not be roused. The second Mary Anning, known to be 'dear to her parents,' was carried back to Lyme, 'in appearance dead.' But when bathed in hot water, gradually she was revived, to the 'joyful exclamations of the assembled crowd.' According to the family, this was a turning point for the young Mary Anning: 'She had been a dull child before but after this accident she became lively and intelligent.'
The rest of chapter is as fascinating as it details her discoveries of various ancient sea-monsters, and her selling them to the London Naturalists is the only thing that keeps the family out of the Poor House for the next few decades, since her father dies and the rest of her siblings but 1 all succumb to disease and poverty.
Mary Anning is well-known to me from an early age, as there is a chapter on her in "All About Dnosaurs" by Roy Chapman Andrews, which was a selection of the Weekly Reader Book Club, back in the day when it had worthwhile books.
I happen to have a copy, which was a gift from my oldest granddaughter, who remembered me telling her that it was the book that set me on my geology degree.
Excellent link from Clarice which Ext re-posted @ 4:27. Don't miss it.
Yes, it seems in character for loyalist Preet Bharara* to have granted Veselnitskaya a really special visa which AG Lynch ordered. Now who told her to do that? Was it *after* Clinton on the tarmac with Lynch?
* said to have earned the potentially trigger label "the crusader."
[Utah] Republican state Sen. Evan Vickers told media he was preparing to leave his room at the Little America on Thursday night when the woman appeared, KSTU-TV reported.
“I opened the door and there was a young lady standing there and she said ‘Hi,’ and I said, ‘Hi, who are you?’ And she said, ‘I’m your date.’ I said, ‘No, you’re not.’ She said, ‘Yes, I’m your date,'” KSTU reported.
The woman refused to leave and kept repeating that she was Vickers’ date.
“She was standing in front of the elevator and I said, ‘I don’t know who you are and what you’re doing here,’ and she said, ‘No, you don’t understand. I’m your date.’ I said, ‘No I’m not and walked back into the room,'” he told KSTU.
Vickers returned to the room, locked the door, and asked a legislative colleague to escort him out of the hotel. The woman left, and he was left wondering what she was trying to accomplish.
Hotel security is reviewing security video footage and police are also investigating, the report states.
Posted by: Frau Steingehirn | February 10, 2018 at 05:14 PM
iirc, and my memory is fuzzy on this point, is that the Tarmac Meeting was late June 2016 (June 27th?) and Typhoid Natasha was roaming around nattering on about adoptions June (NYC) and July (WDC) ... not sure when she left.
seems a lock that she will appear prominently in one or more of the rejected FISA applications.
Since the meeting was set up by an English subject seems a lock that the GHCQ could have started vacuuming up the crumbs Goldstone (one of the people in the meeting and weirdo and a Jabb the Hutt look-a-like) was leaving ...
... now to go in a completely different direction: iirc during the course of the Hillary private server investigation it was speculated in the media that her server was hacked-what if that was the concern-investigations had good reason to believe that it was and all the contents downloaded. We know now that Obama, using an alias, emailed her. Whoever had the full archive had all the contents of the emails, dirt on the Clinton Foundation, and a whole roster of alias addresses of Obama administration officials (including Obama himself) ...
Re.the Newseum. Bank of America has a program where if you have a BOA account or credit cards you can visit a museum for free on the first weekend of the month. The Newseum is the only museum on the list in the DC area.
Ext:
It was only a matter of time before ruining a person’s life with made up stories and false scenarios would enter the picture.Like MM ,I would like to know more about the abuse accusations by Porter.
Something is not right there.
Just to be clear, we’re talking here about David Sorensen, not Rob Porter. Sorensen is, or was, a speechwriter in Stephen Miller’s office. He quit yesterday when word got around that WaPo was planning a story based on his ex-wife’s tales of spousal abuse. Like Porter, Sorensen claims he’s innocent. Unlike Porter, he claims that he, not his ex, was the one getting knocked about. And he’s published a statement online, featuring photos and screenshots of texts, to support his story.
"But the reality is, a lot of people especially our union guys. A lot of our union guys…they’ll do whatever you want. They’re rock and roll. When I need to get something done in Arkansas, the first guy I call is the head of the AFL-CIO down there, because he will say, ‘What do you need?’ And I will say, I need a guy who will do this, this and this. And they find that guy. And that guy will be like, Hell yeah, let’s do it.”
"It doesn't matter what the friggin' legal and ethics people say, we need to win this motherfucker," Foval also said.""
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 05:32 PM
ruining someone's life with false accusations as been going on for a while ...
but at least the WaPo can go chasing the wife beaters in the Trump Administration (more grease for the Great Sex Panic of 2017-2018) and not report about the Awan case or the ongoing coup ...
Have they brought the bio of the two gay guys yet? I can see Mike Torico now with his syrupy Toronto accent and smile telling us how accepting we have become and if only Mike Pence would understand those two guys would earn gold medals.
When you make culture and politics the focus of an athlete's growth then you don't have a competition, you have an acceptance society.
and why Trump and Russia? of all the manufactured dirt they could have come up with on Trump-that?
(in my mind this story-broadly speaking-is just missing something-sort of like looking at a M.C. Esche print)
a much more understandable and fruitful vein of dirt-if that is what they were after-would be available at the Gaming Commission in New Jersey or in any one of the dozen states he has developed properties.
I'm way behind -- haven't read since yesterday morning. So, this might be a repeat. I noticed upthread there were a couple of comments about Sharyl Attkisson -- my sister sent me this tweet a little while ago and it is really interesting about her lawsuit about government surveillance:
daddy--thanks! I knew about Mary Anning but the bit about her father being that "sharp" artisan was new to me as was the lightning story--both fascinating! If anyone wants my paper on the dinosaur/ark confusion in the nineteenth-century imagination, let me know! Dinner in the iguanadon mold by famous scientists included!
Another voice in the CA wilderness: Susan Shelley -
Trump offers not fear, but an America of our own choosing
If the course of our lives is determined by our race, gender, ethnicity, religion, or some other characteristic not of our own choosing, then no matter what we do, we cannot change our destiny. If that's the way it is, we are essentially all victims, and the government's offer of protection is very attractive.
But if we have volition, the power to make our won choices and steer our own course, then what we need is not more government, but more freedom.
Ig--- ten to one that girl in the picture would be strong enough to take that horn and show Egg how he can use his other wind passage to lower the annoyance level.
Personally, the Trump Tower meeting seems such an obvious set up with FBI connivance that I expect the first real confession we get will be about that one--tracks, tracks.
At about 12 or 13 I remember being struck by the gigantic bad taste of John and Yoko being interviewed by the international press corps, in bed, putatively naked, but with the sheets decorously drawn up to armpit level. What frauds and charlatans! Epater les bourgeoisie indeed! The 70s were a bad time to be a teenager. I was at least reading NR and a lot of other things--knowing about other times and places helps a lot in understanding one's own--a platitude but so really true and re-learned I think with older people all the time.
I would've missed the Andy McCarthy article you posted last thread in my hasty ketchup antics.
I'm not sure what Andy's future holds, meaning what positions he'll take in his lawyerly fashion. Can't say. Don't care.
However, I sent that article to my Paw in Virginny where he and his NPR loving wife sit every morning and get their heads pumped full of bilge by the "intellectual sounding" lip smacking commentators with the faux high brow music station.
Paw and I have a very beautiful relationship. We speak of goings on in DC, Califas, and Virginny sparingly by the code: your political views are none of my business. It works. What it does is that it keeps me from ranting about the enemies within and him from cracking endless "pendejo" jokes about POTUS (whom he knows NADA about.)
All this to say, is that he has a keen respect for EVIDENCE when it's put in front of him. God Bless Paw as he is 85 years old and reads a 12 page local paper down in Lynchburgh.
So, the Andy McCarthy article is on its way to him with the email subject line: Follow the evidence.
Paw is still sharp as a tack and near photographic memory. I think, if i know him, the article is going to turn him from the Happy Valley NPR Democrat klatch. Not only that, he knows quite a few Sons of Virginia. And they talk. They do not love the federal government although Paw is Korean war vet and former FAA executive (80s). These other guys are railroad pensioners mostly. They even make their own guns.
All this to say: You have set in motion a ripple effect into very wide pond in Southern Virginia where people tend to mistrust Republicans and somehow know nothing of the "lesser of two evils" and what that was metastisizing into with Her Majesty.
Thank you. I feel like General Kutuzov in "War and Peace". He was being pressured to attack Napoleon while the French were trapped in Moscow. But he waited and it appeared he was doing nothing. "Attack? Now? And have the army completely destroyed?!!!!"
Kutuzov waited until the impatient and angry Napoleon decided to retreat---- and the rest is history.
This is comparable. And it's been a battle of lawyers which will continue. High time that McCarthy (an influencer) calls this treachery out as the vainglorious transgression he thought he'd never see.
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
8m8 minutes ago
My Administration has identified three major priorities for creating a safe, modern and lawful immigration system: fully securing the border, ending chain migration, and canceling the visa lottery. Congress must secure the immigration system and protect Americans.
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Video at link:
To generalize, the current reflex of Americans to call for government to solve every case diaper rash, jock itch, and addiction says to me that few of them have ever studied what precipitated the First American Revolution.
Few understand that we are living through the Second American Revolution---at least the opening salvos that are knocking out the emplacements of The Queen's primates.
I was helping move appliances, gingerly, in the kitchen today----> "Energy Saver" decals. How much does that shit cost us? Who decided it was needed? What say do we have about these frickin Smart Meters that report *UNDERUSEAGE*?
One example of how far we have to go to shitecan the Leviathan. National Defense and old age safety net. The rest? Figure it out, primate.
JohnWickofPolitics
JohnWickofPolitics
@Gingrich_of_PA
So now we are hearing from ppl inside Main Justice that going to work Monday this week will feel like “cut day” for NFL camp players. Long time staffers have no idea if they will be “career counseled” or not. The pre-Horowitz report jitters are speeding up personnel moves
Funny, The Beatles never did anything for me. In fact, no rock did. Maybe Dylan, a little bit. I am a music neanderthal. But I enjoy good classical music and jazz. Go figure!
Forget the Olympics. Looks like Virginia Tech is about to take down #2 Virginia like it does every year, it seems.
Joan, thank you for the 6:08 to Sharyl Atkisson. In addition to her meticulous reporting and the case and evidence she has against the feds, I find her extremely attractive.
Sorenson worked for Gov. LePage before going to DC to work for Trump. The Maine media is having a field day about the accusations. Sorenson and his ex- wife were known in Maine political circles. His ex-wife was a bridesmaid at LePage's daughter's wedding. The only thing Lepage gets any credit for is his strong support for domestic violence victims,because of his own childhood experience. According to media reports in Maine that I've read, LePage's circle and other Republicans didn't have a clue about Sorenson.
Got a chuckle out of your Chreokee wanna be article. I was pretty skeptical when my cousin Lisa brought all this up.
The stewardesses on SAS always mistake me for Scandinavian, I sure don't look like I just stepped off a reservation in Oklahoma.
The line back to "Granny Hopper" is corroborated by census records but her connections to her father, Chief Kanagatooka whose father was Chief Amatoya Moytoy predate any of the Cherokee Rolls I have found by more than 100 years. However, their existence seems to be part of history.
My nephew's DNA test, like what Henry mentioned in his niece's family, made it credible in my mind. His dad is first gen American of Sicilian parents, so the Native American didn't likely come from my BIL.
I have had some experience with these "abuse" complaints against guys.
I had a guy working for me, church going, easy acting, full family kind of guy who went through a horrific claim of abuse from his wife at the time. In the papers, on TV and radio. Later it turned out she was cheating on him and wanted a way out to marry the guy she was cheating on.
I have no idea if this is the current situation but any man who lays a hand on a woman is dead to me, like a doornail.
Evening what is still striking to me, is there is no contact apparently with porters fmr employer.
akhmetshin is a naturalized russia, likely Simpsons sherpa like the Iranian was Solomon's he was known because he had worked on kazakh opposition causes with the iris,
any man who lays a hand on a woman is dead to me, like a doornail.
While in junior high, I knew a kid on Staten Island who had this same credo, and the girls were aware of it. They'd slap him right across the face and he'd do nothing about it.
I mentioned it to my mother and she said if any girl slaps me in the face to slap her right back.
Amazingly, none ever tried it.
(I would add "unless in self defense" to your credo.)
I agree, Janet. Some of the tweets or comments on FB that I read that are written by women make me shake my head. There is no 'gentler' sex. Today's women pink pussy marchers stand in testament to that.
Oh, KK, regarding your energy sticker at 6:48, our electric company wants to install their own thermostats in our homes. We get a letter every month asking us to 'opt in' to their new program.
Now, how long do you think we'd be in control of the temperatures inside our home if we were locked in to using their thermostats?! I can just see them deciding that when it's 100 deg. outside, that they know what is comfortable in our home. :)
Not what I said or mean't, Ex. Different scenario. But still, there is no woman's slap that I would deserver would ever hurt me. She only makes herself look ridiculous.
Nobody's ever slapped me. Mrs H once was so pissed off at me I grabbed both of her wrists and just held her immobile until she calmed down. I forget what it was about but we were pushing each other's buttons pretty hard until I thought "ok this is getting out of control so I'd better go into the defuse mode".
Has anybody here read Cold Comfort Farm (looking at you, Catsmeat, but I wouldn't be surprised if others had)? When I started it I thought "this could be something I could really hate" to "this is ok" and ended up really really liking it and I can't figure out just how that happened.
Funny how that works.
Posted by: JimNorCal | February 10, 2018 at 03:29 PM
What the bi-sexual, stuttering, clusterfuck in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bowhUWl6rxQ
Posted by: GUS | February 10, 2018 at 03:41 PM
Give peas to chans?
Posted by: henry | February 10, 2018 at 03:46 PM
the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: rich | February 10, 2018 at 03:52 PM
Test
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 10, 2018 at 03:57 PM
Okay, cannot post an article from Sharyl Attikanson website. She must have a JavaScript protector. But if you go there you will see why the busiest guy in Washington is the one who makes all the office door nameplates.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 10, 2018 at 04:00 PM
weird ... maybe typepest has it blacklisted or she has it sent to be not directly linkable?
Posted by: rich | February 10, 2018 at 04:11 PM
since they don't appear hear, I'll call it typepad has the site marked as spam or vaguely "dangerous"
Posted by: rich | February 10, 2018 at 04:12 PM
When the hell did they start curling with only 2 players?
Posted by: Jane | February 10, 2018 at 04:18 PM
hear sb here ...
Posted by: rich | February 10, 2018 at 04:18 PM
‘I truly hate these people’: Disgraced FBI agents trashed pro-lifers, wanted to stop March for Life
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/i-truly-hate-these-people-disgraced-fbi-agents-trashed-pro-lifers-wanted-to
Below is a transcript of their conversation:
FBI agent Strzok: "F*cking marchers making traffic problems."
FBI attorney Page: "Yeah, some extremely offensive video screens set up in front of district. I truly hate these people. No support for the woman who actually has to spend the rest of her life rearing this child, but we care about 'life.' Assholes."
FBI agent Strzok: "...Hey, I have an idea! Snow emergency, cancel the permit."
Posted by: Janet 🚬 - I wish my family had a poncho | February 10, 2018 at 04:18 PM
Jack,
If you go to tinyurl.com and insert the url for Sharyl's article, it will give you a substitute url you can use to post it here.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 10, 2018 at 04:21 PM
Dan Scavino Jr.
🇺🇸 Retweeted
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
7m7 minutes ago
My thoughts and prayers are with the two police officers, their families, and everybody at the @WestervillePD.
==============================================
This is in response to the announcement that both officers died.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 10, 2018 at 04:25 PM
From the Lee Smith Tablet piece Clarice linked on the last thread...
Huh? So no FISA warrant required? "U.S. officials" can just spy on Americans by simply searching British databases?
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/255020/how-cia-director-john-brennan-targeted-james-comey
Posted by: Extraneus | February 10, 2018 at 04:27 PM
one of the more interesting effects of Twitter - and especially PDJT's use of it - is how it has impacted the news cycle.
the weekends are no longer an undefended MSM free-fire zone.
Posted by: exdemocrat | February 10, 2018 at 04:27 PM
Thanks, MM. I hadn't considered that. Let me try. It is a most revealing timeline.
https://tinyurl.com/y9cgcskm
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 10, 2018 at 04:28 PM
Ext - here's Truepundit's take on how that Special Spy Relationship was corruptly exploited
https://truepundit.com/exclusive-six-u-s-agencies-conspired-to-illegally-wiretap-trump-british-intel-used-as-front-to-spy-on-campaign-for-nsa/
Posted by: exdemocrat | February 10, 2018 at 04:29 PM
MM, I owe you a Pastrami sandwich at Shapiros. Do they serve creme soda with it?
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 10, 2018 at 04:30 PM
"When the hell did they start curling with only 2 players?"
Curling final, Canada vs Mexico [23 sec. clip]...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7w_S5zme5Y
Posted by: Lemon Pledge | February 10, 2018 at 04:31 PM
Jane,
New Co-Ed curling for this Olympics. Each Olympics they try something different, usually if the host country is really good at it. I don't think the SoKo are that good at curling but who knows.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 10, 2018 at 04:34 PM
They have always had mixed curling (I don't know about the Olympics) but these people have only 2 people on the team. Both skip, both sweep every shot, it's very weird.
Posted by: Jane | February 10, 2018 at 04:39 PM
Why, yes they do, Jack!
dady will attest that it is a true Jewish deli. The guy who founded it, Max Shapiro, passed away a few years ago, and now his kids and grandkids run it. They make their own corned beef and pastrami, have a killer cheesecake, serve matzoh ball soup and potato latkes, and of course, cream soda!
My mother used to eat there when she was attending Butler and frequented downtown. I can remember her taking us there when we were little. I distinctly remember the cream soda!
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 10, 2018 at 04:39 PM
Liked it Lemon Pledge.
Posted by: Jane | February 10, 2018 at 04:40 PM
JIB:
On channel 3 LUGE!
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 04:49 PM
Felix Loch dominating.
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 04:50 PM
the battle prep continues..
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/10/poll-americans-overwhelmingly-believe-obama-improperly-surveilled-trump-campaign/
Posted by: exdemocrat | February 10, 2018 at 04:53 PM
Loved that video clip of JugEars telling Romney that the "Cold War has been over for 20 years" and that the Russkis are not our enemy. Hillary and Adam Schiff and Chuck You Schumer obvisouly didn't get the memo.
Posted by: Comanche Voter | February 10, 2018 at 04:56 PM
Posted by: exdemocrat | February 10, 2018 at 04:29 PM
uuug ... True Pundit.
the reporting on the trump tower meeting always makes my teeth itch ... there was a single Russian in the room, the Typhoid Natahsa lawyer ... her translator was an American, another lobbyist is a nationalized American from some vaguely Slavic decent, and I'm forgetting the 4th person there when she starting prattling on about adoptions of Russian kids
... I also thought she was given an immigration amnesty (not a visa) because she represented, in some vague way, Katsyv (some other Russian dude who has run afoul of US law) in a New York case. Why her immigration amnesty was so overly broad that she could go to Trump Tower (the meeting), show up for a screening of an anti-Magnitsky film at the Newsuem, and show up at a Congressional hearing on the Magnistsky sanctions is anyone's guess.
but here we are.
Posted by: rich | February 10, 2018 at 04:57 PM
Interesting, exdem. Thanks for the link.
I sure do hope they nail Brennan to the wall.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 10, 2018 at 04:57 PM
Here's another article about the worthless Newseum:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456243/newseum-journalists-idolatry
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 10, 2018 at 04:59 PM
Catsmeat,
An OT Jane Austen sighting!
Current read is The Dinosaur Hunters: A True Story of Scientific Rivalry and the Discovery of the Prehistoric World
Chapter one is the life of Mary Anning, the young fossil hunting girl in south coastal England in Lyme Regis. In the very early 1800's, at about age 11, she started finding ichthyosaur skeletons imbedded in the seaside cliff walls near her home and became expert at digging these things out and passing them on to early Natural History pioneers in London, leading after a few decades to the discovery and early understanding of Dinosaurs!
From Chapter 1:
...In 1792, war erupted in Europe and it became dangerous for the English gentry to travel on the Continent. Many of the well-to-do classes adopted the resorts of the south coast of England. The dramatic scenery around Lyme Bay became a favorite among those who spent part of the season at Bath. In the summer, smart carriages often lined the Parade and the steep narrow streets that nestled into the hillside. The novelist Jane Austen was among those who visited early in the 19th Century. She was charmed by the High Street, 'almost hurrying into the sea', and 'the very beautiful line of cliffs stretching out to the east.' The Cobb curving around the harbor became the dramatic setting for scenes in her new novel "Persuasion." It was here that Louisa Musgrove fell 'lifeless...her eyes closed, her face like death', and was nursed back to health by the romantic sea captain.
Jane Austen's letter to her sister, Casandra, reveal that during her short stay she met an artisan in the town by the name of Richard Anning. He was summoned to value the broken lid of a box and, according to Jane Austen, was a sharp dealer. She told her sister that Anning's estimate, at five shillings, was 'beyond the value of all the furniture in the room together.'
What we then learn was that Richard Anning, a poor carpenter, was the father of Mary Anning. But then we learn that Mary Anning died horribly at age 4 from being left alone in a room with a fireplace and her clothes catching on fire. Ughh and awful, but then shortly after the Anning's have another baby girl so naturally they name her Mary as well. That's the one that became the famous fossil hunter. The book says her life was also touch and go in that at age 2 there was a festival just out of town everyone attended, young Mary being carried by a nurse.
...Then, in the words of the local schoolmaster, George Robert's: 'a vivid discharge of electrical fluid ensued, followed by the most awful clap of thunder that any present ever remembered hearing, which re-echoed around the fine cliffs of Lyme Bay. All appeared deafened by the crash. After a momentary pause a man gave the alarm by pointing to a group that lay motionless under a tree.'
There were 3 dead women, among them Mary's nurse, Elizabeth, whose hair, arm and cap along the right side were 'much burnt and the flesh wounded.' She was still holding the baby, who was insensible and could not be roused. The second Mary Anning, known to be 'dear to her parents,' was carried back to Lyme, 'in appearance dead.' But when bathed in hot water, gradually she was revived, to the 'joyful exclamations of the assembled crowd.' According to the family, this was a turning point for the young Mary Anning: 'She had been a dull child before but after this accident she became lively and intelligent.'
The rest of chapter is as fascinating as it details her discoveries of various ancient sea-monsters, and her selling them to the London Naturalists is the only thing that keeps the family out of the Poor House for the next few decades, since her father dies and the rest of her siblings but 1 all succumb to disease and poverty.
Here's Mary and her Ichthyosaur!
Apologies for the long OT:)
Posted by: daddy | February 10, 2018 at 05:02 PM
Ok so now they have track in the winter olympics - or is NBC screwing with me?
Posted by: Jane | February 10, 2018 at 05:05 PM
Did the American curling team beat the one from Norway?
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 05:07 PM
Jane:
Change to regular NBCstation.
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 05:08 PM
daddy,
Mary Anning is well-known to me from an early age, as there is a chapter on her in "All About Dnosaurs" by Roy Chapman Andrews, which was a selection of the Weekly Reader Book Club, back in the day when it had worthwhile books.
I happen to have a copy, which was a gift from my oldest granddaughter, who remembered me telling her that it was the book that set me on my geology degree.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 10, 2018 at 05:09 PM
Daddy:
What an interesting story.
Find a goal , pursue it, save your family.
Inspiring.
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 05:12 PM
Snowboarding has gotten very sophisticated.
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 05:14 PM
Excellent link from Clarice which Ext re-posted @ 4:27. Don't miss it.
Yes, it seems in character for loyalist Preet Bharara* to have granted Veselnitskaya a really special visa which AG Lynch ordered. Now who told her to do that? Was it *after* Clinton on the tarmac with Lynch?
* said to have earned the potentially trigger label "the crusader."
Posted by: Frau Steingehirn | February 10, 2018 at 05:14 PM
So enjoyed that excerpt, daddy - this was so interesting:
'She had been a dull child before but after this accident she became lively and intelligent.'
Are they implying it was some ancient/natural form of electric shock therapy?
Posted by: Momto2 | February 10, 2018 at 05:15 PM
Did she get struck by lightening?
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 05:18 PM
https://twitter.com/peachyblackgorl/status/961793363413520384
Video of Surya Bonaly, a French figure skater who could do a back flip and land on one blade. The figure skating powers that be made it illegal.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 10, 2018 at 05:19 PM
"Apologies for the long OT:)"
Shush, daddy! There are those who come to JOM for such OT gems.
...and first to read TM's blog, of course.
Posted by: Frau Steingehirn | February 10, 2018 at 05:20 PM
#MeToo enters a new phase.
Mystery woman appears at hotel door of Republican lawmaker in suspected entrapment attempt
Posted by: Extraneus | February 10, 2018 at 05:22 PM
Posted by: Frau Steingehirn | February 10, 2018 at 05:14 PM
iirc, and my memory is fuzzy on this point, is that the Tarmac Meeting was late June 2016 (June 27th?) and Typhoid Natasha was roaming around nattering on about adoptions June (NYC) and July (WDC) ... not sure when she left.
seems a lock that she will appear prominently in one or more of the rejected FISA applications.
Since the meeting was set up by an English subject seems a lock that the GHCQ could have started vacuuming up the crumbs Goldstone (one of the people in the meeting and weirdo and a Jabb the Hutt look-a-like) was leaving ...
... now to go in a completely different direction: iirc during the course of the Hillary private server investigation it was speculated in the media that her server was hacked-what if that was the concern-investigations had good reason to believe that it was and all the contents downloaded. We know now that Obama, using an alias, emailed her. Whoever had the full archive had all the contents of the emails, dirt on the Clinton Foundation, and a whole roster of alias addresses of Obama administration officials (including Obama himself) ...
Posted by: rich | February 10, 2018 at 05:31 PM
The New York TimesVerified account @nytimes
Part of the emotional and visual appeal of "Black Panther" lies in the fact that Wakanda has never been colonized
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Wakanda is a fictional country and doesn't exist.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 10, 2018 at 05:31 PM
Re.the Newseum. Bank of America has a program where if you have a BOA account or credit cards you can visit a museum for free on the first weekend of the month. The Newseum is the only museum on the list in the DC area.
Posted by: Davod | February 10, 2018 at 05:32 PM
Ext:
It was only a matter of time before ruining a person’s life with made up stories and false scenarios would enter the picture.Like MM ,I would like to know more about the abuse accusations by Porter.
Something is not right there.
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 05:32 PM
Rich:
Excellent observation.
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 05:36 PM
Well here's another. [HotAir link.]
Second WH Staffer Accused Of Domestic Abuse Fires Back: It Was My Ex-Wife Who Abused Me
Posted by: Extraneus | February 10, 2018 at 05:38 PM
Gotta watch short track for men coming up next.
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 05:42 PM
Ext:
This is more common than most men will admit.
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 05:44 PM
Where are Creamer & Foval??
"But the reality is, a lot of people especially our union guys. A lot of our union guys…they’ll do whatever you want. They’re rock and roll. When I need to get something done in Arkansas, the first guy I call is the head of the AFL-CIO down there, because he will say, ‘What do you need?’ And I will say, I need a guy who will do this, this and this. And they find that guy. And that guy will be like, Hell yeah, let’s do it.”
"It doesn't matter what the friggin' legal and ethics people say, we need to win this motherfucker," Foval also said.""
Posted by: Janet 🚬 - I wish my family had a poncho | February 10, 2018 at 05:45 PM
Posted by: maryrose | February 10, 2018 at 05:32 PM
ruining someone's life with false accusations as been going on for a while ...
but at least the WaPo can go chasing the wife beaters in the Trump Administration (more grease for the Great Sex Panic of 2017-2018) and not report about the Awan case or the ongoing coup ...
Posted by: rich | February 10, 2018 at 05:46 PM
Have they brought the bio of the two gay guys yet? I can see Mike Torico now with his syrupy Toronto accent and smile telling us how accepting we have become and if only Mike Pence would understand those two guys would earn gold medals.
When you make culture and politics the focus of an athlete's growth then you don't have a competition, you have an acceptance society.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 10, 2018 at 05:54 PM
Just for MM;
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | February 10, 2018 at 05:59 PM
http://tammybruce.com/2018/02/dogs-meant-for-soup-at-winter-olympics-in-south-korea-rescued.html
Sorry, but this is an aspect of multiculturalism I will not ever accept.
Dogs are not food. Period.
I don't care how high tech your opening ceremonies were.
And why is the Olympic Village allowing dog dishes to be served?
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 10, 2018 at 05:59 PM
and why Trump and Russia? of all the manufactured dirt they could have come up with on Trump-that?
(in my mind this story-broadly speaking-is just missing something-sort of like looking at a M.C. Esche print)
a much more understandable and fruitful vein of dirt-if that is what they were after-would be available at the Gaming Commission in New Jersey or in any one of the dozen states he has developed properties.
Posted by: rich | February 10, 2018 at 06:01 PM
Maryrose,
US beat Norway. Are you in Florida?
Posted by: Jane | February 10, 2018 at 06:02 PM
I'm way behind -- haven't read since yesterday morning. So, this might be a repeat. I noticed upthread there were a couple of comments about Sharyl Attkisson -- my sister sent me this tweet a little while ago and it is really interesting about her lawsuit about government surveillance:
https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/962143267616849921
Posted by: joan | February 10, 2018 at 06:08 PM
daddy--thanks! I knew about Mary Anning but the bit about her father being that "sharp" artisan was new to me as was the lightning story--both fascinating! If anyone wants my paper on the dinosaur/ark confusion in the nineteenth-century imagination, let me know! Dinner in the iguanadon mold by famous scientists included!
Posted by: Catsmeat | February 10, 2018 at 06:13 PM
wowsers! either he's passing off some speculation as fact or he knows stuff we do not yet know: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/10/puzzle-pieces-former-asst-sec-of-state-robert-charles-discusses-the-fisa-review-court-may-explain-judge-ruben-contreras-recusal/
Posted by: Clarice Feldman | February 10, 2018 at 06:23 PM
Another voice in the CA wilderness: Susan Shelley -
https://www.ocregister.com/2018/02/04/trump-offers-not-fear-but-an-america-of-our-own-choosing/
Posted by: Frau Steingehirn | February 10, 2018 at 06:23 PM
All i am saying is put yoko in chains
(so i never have to hear that parasite no-talent bullshitter "sing" again for as long as i live).
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 10, 2018 at 06:24 PM
Ig--- ten to one that girl in the picture would be strong enough to take that horn and show Egg how he can use his other wind passage to lower the annoyance level.
Kev
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 10, 2018 at 06:26 PM
Personally, the Trump Tower meeting seems such an obvious set up with FBI connivance that I expect the first real confession we get will be about that one--tracks, tracks.
Posted by: Clarice Feldman | February 10, 2018 at 06:28 PM
Dinner in the iguanadon mold by famous scientists included!
I think that part's coming up in the book since I peeked ahead:)
Posted by: daddy | February 10, 2018 at 06:34 PM
Posted by: Clarice Feldman | February 10, 2018 at 06:28 PM
now I am intrigued.
Posted by: rich | February 10, 2018 at 06:35 PM
At about 12 or 13 I remember being struck by the gigantic bad taste of John and Yoko being interviewed by the international press corps, in bed, putatively naked, but with the sheets decorously drawn up to armpit level. What frauds and charlatans! Epater les bourgeoisie indeed! The 70s were a bad time to be a teenager. I was at least reading NR and a lot of other things--knowing about other times and places helps a lot in understanding one's own--a platitude but so really true and re-learned I think with older people all the time.
Posted by: Catsmeat | February 10, 2018 at 06:35 PM
Clarice:
I would've missed the Andy McCarthy article you posted last thread in my hasty ketchup antics.
I'm not sure what Andy's future holds, meaning what positions he'll take in his lawyerly fashion. Can't say. Don't care.
However, I sent that article to my Paw in Virginny where he and his NPR loving wife sit every morning and get their heads pumped full of bilge by the "intellectual sounding" lip smacking commentators with the faux high brow music station.
Paw and I have a very beautiful relationship. We speak of goings on in DC, Califas, and Virginny sparingly by the code: your political views are none of my business. It works. What it does is that it keeps me from ranting about the enemies within and him from cracking endless "pendejo" jokes about POTUS (whom he knows NADA about.)
All this to say, is that he has a keen respect for EVIDENCE when it's put in front of him. God Bless Paw as he is 85 years old and reads a 12 page local paper down in Lynchburgh.
So, the Andy McCarthy article is on its way to him with the email subject line: Follow the evidence.
Paw is still sharp as a tack and near photographic memory. I think, if i know him, the article is going to turn him from the Happy Valley NPR Democrat klatch. Not only that, he knows quite a few Sons of Virginia. And they talk. They do not love the federal government although Paw is Korean war vet and former FAA executive (80s). These other guys are railroad pensioners mostly. They even make their own guns.
All this to say: You have set in motion a ripple effect into very wide pond in Southern Virginia where people tend to mistrust Republicans and somehow know nothing of the "lesser of two evils" and what that was metastisizing into with Her Majesty.
Thank you. I feel like General Kutuzov in "War and Peace". He was being pressured to attack Napoleon while the French were trapped in Moscow. But he waited and it appeared he was doing nothing. "Attack? Now? And have the army completely destroyed?!!!!"
Kutuzov waited until the impatient and angry Napoleon decided to retreat---- and the rest is history.
This is comparable. And it's been a battle of lawyers which will continue. High time that McCarthy (an influencer) calls this treachery out as the vainglorious transgression he thought he'd never see.
Thanks, Clarice.
Kev
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 10, 2018 at 06:41 PM
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
8m8 minutes ago
My Administration has identified three major priorities for creating a safe, modern and lawful immigration system: fully securing the border, ending chain migration, and canceling the visa lottery. Congress must secure the immigration system and protect Americans.
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Video at link:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/962469767109009408
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 10, 2018 at 06:45 PM
To generalize, the current reflex of Americans to call for government to solve every case diaper rash, jock itch, and addiction says to me that few of them have ever studied what precipitated the First American Revolution.
Few understand that we are living through the Second American Revolution---at least the opening salvos that are knocking out the emplacements of The Queen's primates.
I was helping move appliances, gingerly, in the kitchen today----> "Energy Saver" decals. How much does that shit cost us? Who decided it was needed? What say do we have about these frickin Smart Meters that report *UNDERUSEAGE*?
One example of how far we have to go to shitecan the Leviathan. National Defense and old age safety net. The rest? Figure it out, primate.
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 10, 2018 at 06:48 PM
daddy, I'm afraid it's not there, but there are other sillinesses!
Posted by: Catsmeat | February 10, 2018 at 06:50 PM
Scott Adams rarely disappoints -
Posted by: Frau Schiff ohne Segel | February 10, 2018 at 06:51 PM
Hopefully true,
JohnWickofPolitics
JohnWickofPolitics
@Gingrich_of_PA
So now we are hearing from ppl inside Main Justice that going to work Monday this week will feel like “cut day” for NFL camp players. Long time staffers have no idea if they will be “career counseled” or not. The pre-Horowitz report jitters are speeding up personnel moves
Posted by: lurkersusie | February 10, 2018 at 06:53 PM
Funny, The Beatles never did anything for me. In fact, no rock did. Maybe Dylan, a little bit. I am a music neanderthal. But I enjoy good classical music and jazz. Go figure!
Forget the Olympics. Looks like Virginia Tech is about to take down #2 Virginia like it does every year, it seems.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 10, 2018 at 06:54 PM
Well it still looks like a good time was had by all!
Posted by: daddy | February 10, 2018 at 06:57 PM
Joan, thank you for the 6:08 to Sharyl Atkisson. In addition to her meticulous reporting and the case and evidence she has against the feds, I find her extremely attractive.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 10, 2018 at 06:59 PM
Sorenson worked for Gov. LePage before going to DC to work for Trump. The Maine media is having a field day about the accusations. Sorenson and his ex- wife were known in Maine political circles. His ex-wife was a bridesmaid at LePage's daughter's wedding. The only thing Lepage gets any credit for is his strong support for domestic violence victims,because of his own childhood experience. According to media reports in Maine that I've read, LePage's circle and other Republicans didn't have a clue about Sorenson.
Posted by: Marlene | February 10, 2018 at 06:59 PM
KK
Got a chuckle out of your Chreokee wanna be article. I was pretty skeptical when my cousin Lisa brought all this up.
The stewardesses on SAS always mistake me for Scandinavian, I sure don't look like I just stepped off a reservation in Oklahoma.
The line back to "Granny Hopper" is corroborated by census records but her connections to her father, Chief Kanagatooka whose father was Chief Amatoya Moytoy predate any of the Cherokee Rolls I have found by more than 100 years. However, their existence seems to be part of history.
My nephew's DNA test, like what Henry mentioned in his niece's family, made it credible in my mind. His dad is first gen American of Sicilian parents, so the Native American didn't likely come from my BIL.
Eat your heart out Lizzy!
Posted by: Buckeye | February 10, 2018 at 07:00 PM
Jack,
I have a fondness for the early Beatles, as well as other groups from the British Invasion, which happened when I was in high school.
However, when the Beatles broke up and Lennon took that photo in bed with Yoko, I went "eeewww" and pretty much lost interest.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 10, 2018 at 07:02 PM
Thanks for the Sundance link, Clarice.
Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel team as organized by James Baker better all hang together or they're going to all hang separate.
Posted by: daddy | February 10, 2018 at 07:02 PM
I have had some experience with these "abuse" complaints against guys.
I had a guy working for me, church going, easy acting, full family kind of guy who went through a horrific claim of abuse from his wife at the time. In the papers, on TV and radio. Later it turned out she was cheating on him and wanted a way out to marry the guy she was cheating on.
I have no idea if this is the current situation but any man who lays a hand on a woman is dead to me, like a doornail.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 10, 2018 at 07:07 PM
Switzerland 8 - 0 Combined team of Korea.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it Kim Jong-un.
But they have a Scandavian coach who is bad looking.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 10, 2018 at 07:13 PM
A good piece about a part of American Western history:
https://ricochet.com/494447/wild-rags-blowin-in-the-wind/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 10, 2018 at 07:14 PM
Evening what is still striking to me, is there is no contact apparently with porters fmr employer.
akhmetshin is a naturalized russia, likely Simpsons sherpa like the Iranian was Solomon's he was known because he had worked on kazakh opposition causes with the iris,
Posted by: narciso | February 10, 2018 at 07:16 PM
I don't know. There are some rough, foul mouthed, scheming women out here.
Women are as rough as the men.
Posted by: Janet 🚬 - I wish my family had a poncho | February 10, 2018 at 07:17 PM
Nice to see CNN taking well deserved incoming criticism from both sides for their praise of the North Korean dictators sister: Twitchy: CNN getting DESTROYED from all sides over its puff-piece on Kim Jong Un’s sister
CNN would have loved Eva Braun.
Posted by: daddy | February 10, 2018 at 07:19 PM
any man who lays a hand on a woman is dead to me, like a doornail.
While in junior high, I knew a kid on Staten Island who had this same credo, and the girls were aware of it. They'd slap him right across the face and he'd do nothing about it.
I mentioned it to my mother and she said if any girl slaps me in the face to slap her right back.
Amazingly, none ever tried it.
(I would add "unless in self defense" to your credo.)
Posted by: Extraneus | February 10, 2018 at 07:19 PM
I agree, Janet. Some of the tweets or comments on FB that I read that are written by women make me shake my head. There is no 'gentler' sex. Today's women pink pussy marchers stand in testament to that.
Posted by: joan | February 10, 2018 at 07:20 PM
This is nice.
http://www.newson6.com/story/37449684/dog-stuck-on-frozen-tulsa-pond
Posted by: joan | February 10, 2018 at 07:28 PM
That was an interesting perspective on Mary anning and regency England.
Posted by: narciso | February 10, 2018 at 07:31 PM
Oh, KK, regarding your energy sticker at 6:48, our electric company wants to install their own thermostats in our homes. We get a letter every month asking us to 'opt in' to their new program.
Now, how long do you think we'd be in control of the temperatures inside our home if we were locked in to using their thermostats?! I can just see them deciding that when it's 100 deg. outside, that they know what is comfortable in our home. :)
https://psopowerhours.com/
https://www.orangepower.com/threads/aep-pso-owasso.96306/
Posted by: joan | February 10, 2018 at 07:33 PM
Not what I said or mean't, Ex. Different scenario. But still, there is no woman's slap that I would deserver would ever hurt me. She only makes herself look ridiculous.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 10, 2018 at 07:34 PM
Off to bed. Long day, me and Frederick tracking down community service hours for his school CV. Did 6 hours at the library.
We are close.
Slaap lekker, tot morgen.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 10, 2018 at 07:40 PM
Well, when I was about 11, my mom slapped me silly once.
Don't think I mouthed off for a looong time after that:)
Posted by: Buckeye | February 10, 2018 at 07:40 PM
I think that Von grack was at least in violation if rule 13, of fisa procedures.
Posted by: narciso | February 10, 2018 at 07:49 PM
Nobody's ever slapped me. Mrs H once was so pissed off at me I grabbed both of her wrists and just held her immobile until she calmed down. I forget what it was about but we were pushing each other's buttons pretty hard until I thought "ok this is getting out of control so I'd better go into the defuse mode".
Has anybody here read Cold Comfort Farm (looking at you, Catsmeat, but I wouldn't be surprised if others had)? When I started it I thought "this could be something I could really hate" to "this is ok" and ended up really really liking it and I can't figure out just how that happened.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 10, 2018 at 07:49 PM
Joan.,
Do not let them in. Get Nest. Install at all your existing thermostats.
Control your own life not let the utility do it for you.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 10, 2018 at 07:50 PM
CH
I am SURE I deserved worse.
Posted by: Buckeye | February 10, 2018 at 07:51 PM
No, Joan, do NOT get a NEST thermostat. You may control it but it's phoning home to Google.
Posted by: Another Bob | February 10, 2018 at 07:56 PM