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The Flailing NY Times attempts another contribution to the gun debate:

The Mental Health System Can’t Stop Mass Shooters

The contributor is a mental health doctor from California and we thank her for her public service. However, she is not a lawyer and the Times editors left her out to dry.

Her guest piece bemoans shortcomings in the mental health laws that make it difficult to disarm and force into treatment potentially dangerous and erratic people. The dramatic arc builds on an incident from several years ago. All very interesting, but California passed a Gun Violence Restraining Order law in 2014 to plug what had become obvious holes in their system.

California governor signs 'gun violence restraining order' law

SACRAMENTO Calif. (Reuters) - People who fear a close relative may commit gun violence will be able to petition a judge to temporarily remove the person's firearms in California, under a bill signed into law on Tuesday by Democratic Governor Jerry Brown.

The legislation - the first such measure in the United States - was introduced after police in Isla Vista near Santa Barbara said they were unable to confiscate weapons from a man who later went on a rampage and killed six people, despite concern from his family.

The Times editors overseeing these submissions really might want to spend some time on the NY Times website, where they might have found this Reuters story:

Gun Restraining Order Might Have Thwarted Florida Shooting: Experts

(Reuters) - A few U.S. states have laws allowing police and family members to obtain orders barring people suspected of being a threat from possessing guns, but Florida does not. Some gun control proponents and legal experts said Wednesday's school shooting might have been thwarted if it had.

The WaPo had more a few days back. And I surely don't expect the Times to run a piece by David French of National Review, but we live in strange times. Let me add that Little Marco Rubio tweeted about the French piece, so think about that.

One day the Times may take up this possible solution, which now has a brief history in California (it went into effect in 2016), a much longer one (1999) in Connecticut, and is on the books in other states as well.

Jacob Sullum of Reason continues to object, suggesting a parade of horribles and noting that maybe nobody would have actually sought an order against Nikolas Cruz. Hmm - arguing that a law might not have worked so why bother may not be compelling. There are so few guarantees in life, a point understood by many.

As to the horribles, the beauty of our Federal system is that we can see just what has happened in a couple of states. Are the local gun groups experiencing ongoing outrage, or has the actual experience been somewhat sensible? The truth is out there!

ONE FOR THE LAWYERS, or, PARDON ME WHILE I'M STUCK ON DUMB:

The Reuters story linked above includes this:

A federal GVRO law was proposed last year, and its supporters in Congress on Thursday urged its passage.

...

The National Rifle Association and other groups have opposed such laws as violating gun owners' due process rights. A judge can issue an initial restraining order and confiscation of firearms without a hearing.

A federal law would empower federal judges, yes? Are Federal court orders normally enforced by local police and sheriffs departments, or would petitioners be working with, hmm, the FBI and the Marshalls Service? Or would the bill attempt to strongarm each state to pass enabling legislation, as we saw with drinking ages (linked, IIRC to highway funds) and was shot down by the Supreme Court with Medicaid and Obamacare. Or is it an incentive scheme, where federal funds go to any states that choose to play along.

Glancing at the bill, it looks like "incentive scheme" since state judges, local enforcement and state law is used, with Federal grants to help states implement the law. I oppose for now. Let's see different states try variations and generate some live experience before we try to engineer 'one size fits all' best practices from Washington.

Comments

[Americano]

Florida enacted a law in 2016 that made the mere threat of a school shooting a 2nd degree felony.

http://lakerlutznews.com/lln/?p=39737

[Americano]

FBI and local LEOs could have easily put this together with just a bit of actual investigation, especially after FBI got 2nd tip

[henry]

from the CT study: Most people who complete suicide suffer from a mental disorder such
as depressive illness, but only a small proportion of them have a record of involuntary
civil commitment or other gun-disqualifying mental health or criminal adjudication.

I stopped by the doctors office for an infected cut. Before seeing a doctor, the nurse haranged me saying i was due for a "depression screening" based on some flag in the clinic's software. I told them to pound sand, which i was "allowed" to do.

Suppose the CT law applied. Does that mean forced depression screening? What is the false positive rate in that quackery? The AMA is already full on political against guns, think they would weaponize this test?

More feel good crap straight out of the soviet union's mental health procedures.

[Extraneus]

A few U.S. states have laws allowing police and family members to obtain orders barring people suspected of being a threat from possessing guns, but Florida does not. Some gun control proponents and legal experts said Wednesday's school shooting might have been thwarted if it had.

And a lot of dead kids might still be alive if the football coach was allowed to carry in school. In fact, the shooter might have been deterred by the thought that someone might shoot back.

[Porchlight]

Concur with henry. I don't like where any of this is going.

[henry]

More surprises, unions suck: they lie and cheat to keep deducting dues.

http://www.nrtw.org/news/wisconsin-worker-02212018/

[Captain Hate]

Health providers have already been given powers of ad hoc agents of the state far and beyond what should happen in a free society. This is dangerous territory and needs to be strongly resisted.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The CA law is not that objectionable in theory, but is absolutely ripe for abuse.

[JimNorCal]

With all the current examples of federal incompetence and knavery, this part is looking good:
"Let's see different states try variations and generate some live experience before we try to engineer 'one size fits all' best practices from Washington."

[JimNorCal]

henry: "I stopped by the doctors office ..."

On a related note, I've been in 3 doctor visits in the past couple years (myself and 2 of the kids) where I/we are asked if there are guns in the home.

Is this a CA-only thing, or do all of you get these?

[henry]

i think they got the evil eye enough here they stopped asking, but it is on all the questionnaires. I leave it blank.

[Porchlight]

We get those questions too, JimNorCal. I usually lie.

[Porchlight]

And I am not the kind of person who lies on forms. I hate it. But I'm not answering it, especially to the pediatrician.

[henry]

NSA doesn't spy on citizens? No sweat, FBI does.

They form part of the FBI's clandestine Data Intercept Technology Unit (DITU). DITU works with tech companies but is said to be even closer with telecoms firms, especially Verizon. There are concerns over FBI SIGINT. Not to mention the total lack of transparency here.

https://twitter.com/iblametom/status/966336406808399872

[JimNorCal]

Porch: I was startled the first time, and thought of doctors as allied with the individual but now I consider them an agent of the state and routinely lie.
Sad.

[Jane]

After Obama became president everyone was asked at every doctor's visit if they were afraid at home. I answered "yes". When asked why I told the nurse that I was scared to death of Obama.

[Porchlight]

My orthopedist is a hardcore libertarian and hates everything about the electronic forms. He says it's all designed to deny care down the road, if not much worse.

[rse]

My understanding is pediatricians are required to ask that question. A yes answer always got a follow-up of "is it secured and out of the reach of children?"

New post up building on what I linked to yesterday about the Broward template of pushing restorative justice as the answer instead of arrests. http://invisibleserfscollar.com/change-your-belief-change-your-behavior-change-your-life-tranzi-obe-again-at-the-forefront/

Anyone wanting to give advice on how to avoid knee replacement surgery, the good news is hat quad tendon is knitting. The bad news is apparently much of the cartilage under knee cap was gone, which is why I was in so much more pain than doctor would hve guessed.

Now doing pt twice a week and therapist said I was one of the few who clearly was doing the assigned exercises.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I am home after having electrodes glued to my scalp for 45 minutes and you should see my hair!

I should get the results in about a week. I fell asleep through part of it. LOL!

[Extraneus]

I usually lie.

I just refuse.

[Momto2]

“Someday you will read or hear that Billy Graham is dead. Don't you believe a word of it. I shall be more alive than I am now. I will just have changed my address. I will have gone into the presence of God.” - Billy Graham

[Old Lurker]

Henry: "NSA doesn't spy on citizens? No sweat, FBI does."

NSA doesn't spy on citizens? No sweat, just ask the Brits to do it and dump the data into the shared database.

[Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma]

Willowed:

So courageous conversations means "be miserable, get used to it and bitch about it, so you can all make each other feel worse equally."

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2h2 hours ago

The GREAT Billy Graham is dead. There was nobody like him! He will be missed by Christians and all religions. A very special man.

[glasater]

If FL had the same gun law as CA, the parents/guardians of Cruz weren't alarmed enough by his bizarre behavior to do anything about it that I recall reading.

[Account Deleted]

Re the health care provider intrusiveness about "guns in the home."

I was asked but once if we had guns in the home.

That was when The Bath House Rat's health care lawlessness got rammed down our throats.

I have not been asked since. My non-responsive answer was: "Tell Obama to go ride his girly bike without the seat."

The assistant had a good belly laugh while saying: "Ya, i can't stand that peasy-headed mothafucka no way ennahow."

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
18 Dec 2012

“Courage is contagious. When a brave man takes a stand, the spines of others are often stiffened.” – Rev. @BillyGraham

========================

Note the date.

[Account Deleted]

in a culture where wearing a pussyhat is "courageous" based on a fake news story's spin, these discussions only reflect how low the bar has been set for snowflakes.

The Aussies holding out against Rommel in Tobruk was likely to be a scene for many a "courageous" conversations between 88 mm rounds tearing them apart. Sure, it's a wartime example; and, there are other forms of courage----- but the snowflake youth have nothing to compare their canary-like virtue codes to in order to realize that they have no idea what courage is and how it works.

I had to endure this mind-control nonsense on the University of Vermont campus in the 90s. It is diddy-wah white liberal progressive guilt mongering. A cat-o-nine tails woulda been quicker and cheaper "atonement" for the sin of slavery, an eye-for-an-eye, if that's their thing.

The rest is just bullshitake yammering and hyper-anal discussions about what the rules will be "for sharing the space," or "creating a container to hold all of our feelings."

They will be blindsided by reality once they go out into the world and end up in their voluntarily segregated "live/work" spaces and lofts and propeller-headed cubicles.

Oh wait--- Cheryl Sandberg is "leaning in" to diversity at Facebook on all of our behalves.

NEBBER MIND.

Kev

[Ralph L]

If every ER visit by a child gets reported, abused children won't be taken to the ER.

Expect this law to be used in a lot of divorce cases, as evidence, as preemption, and as retribution.

[Extraneus]

I didn't realize she was running for office. How convenient.

Trump accuser: President 'should be afraid'

A woman who claims President Trump forcibly kissed her more than a decade ago said Trump “should be afraid” of the truth coming out as he denies such an incident ever happened.

Rachel Crooks, who is running as a Democrat for a seat in Ohio’s state Legislature, told CNN on Tuesday night that she’s not surprised Trump called her a liar in a tweet earlier in the day.

“It is the first time, I guess, he’s attacked me personally on Twitter, but his whole approach to this has been to deny the allegation of myself and, like you said, almost 20 women who have come forward. So it’s not surprising,” Crooks told CNN’s Don Lemon.

“But I would think as our president he would have more important things to do than tweet at me and try to discredit my story,” she continued. “I know what’s true, he knows what’s true and I think he should be afraid of that.”

Doesn't seem Trump's type, looks wise.

[James D.]

We get those questions too, JimNorCal. I usually lie.

How long before answering them becomes compulsory, and lying becomes a state (or federal) crime?

[Sue]

I answer that question “none of your business”. So far no one has challenged me.

[Extraneus]

Schumer: Trump’s gun overtures ‘won’t come close’ to solving problem

“He should call on Congress to pass Senator Feinstein’s bill to ban bump stocks, rather than just draft memos,” Mr. Schumer said. “On far too many issues, this administration has been all talk and little action — we can’t afford that approach when it comes to curbing gun violence.”

The New York Democrat, in a statement, also said Congress must have a much broader debate about expanding background checks. He warned against coupling any background check fixes with a bill to expand concealed-carry rights — an approach the GOP-controlled House took.

Of course he doesn't define "the problem."

Schumer's one of those negotiators who'd rather have nothing than something. I'm sure Trump is ok with that. He can say he banned bump stocks without any help from the Dem's.

[Threadkiller]

My guess is that any answer other than "no" is recorded as "yes."

[Account Deleted]

Schumer: Trump’s gun overtures ‘won’t come close’ to solving problem

Kev: Schumer's legacy of failure 'hasn't come close' to solving *ANY* problem. (Can kicking douche nozzle.)

[Jim Eagle]

This is what happens when you take Federal money, medicaid, medicare, disability insurance, etc. Just like with Title IX, you let the Fed's into your surgery, school or college you become de facto arm of the Federal government.

As Ronaldus Maximus was fond of saying: "when you go to bed with the government, you get more than a good night's sleep".

[Account Deleted]

Schumer: "On far too many issues, this administration has been all talk and little action — we can’t afford that approach when it comes to curbing gun violence.”

Hmmmm. No foolin', Senator?

"on far too many issues" you say? The record speaks for itself.

And in case you haven't noticed how the memos, tweets, and toying (with the media) play out into direct concerted action (like when Mick took over the metastisizing CPB in under 72 hours and froze hiring) then you still don't understand the POTUS you have taken an oath to oppose and obstruct.

What does "curbing gun violence" mean anyway? How does one measure when an inanimate mechanical object that's allegedly "violent" (a human quality)has been "curbed?"

In short--- WTF are you talking about?

[Sue]

I’m sitting in a medical facility waiting on my brother listening to the intake of people. This one lady just asked 2 people if no one in the household had an income they responded their mother gets a social security check. They are mid 20s to early 30s. Living off mom’s SS check. And they both look fully capable of being employed.

[RattlerGator]

Thanks, KK. Gonna give the exercise and food-intake thing a shot before giving in to a hip replacement -- although that shot is already working miracles.

* * *

Oh My, Trump calls out Elmer for napping on the SC.

Posted by: henry | February 21, 2018 at 09:26 AM

That's not Trump calling out Sessions, that's Trump feeding the necessary narrative so that when Sessions *does* act, the nation will have two primary options to comprehend the historic actions threatening prison for many (at least that part of the nation open to objective review):

[1] that Trump FINALLY pressured Sessions to *do* something (this, frankly, is the position of the Ledge; a group who keep insisting they've never had to engage complex governmental action before against a dedicated adversary) *or*

[2] (will wonders never cease) Sessions actually delegated the show trial stuff to Mueller, then coordinated with Horowitz and Congress, dotted his i's and crossed his t's, and took the professional, methodical route.

I'm telling you, OL, that beating on the Veranda is going to be glorious.

* * *

As I prepare to head out to go see what all the fuss is about over the Black Panther movie (Wakanda, baby, Wakanda !!!), I'll look forward to my return and the review of -- how did OL put it? -- "all these old white men" who still fail to realize Donald John Trump is President and Commander-n-Chief.

* * *

I take a different meaning, to this tweet. I see it as shaking the tree to see what falls out of it. Also, a warning to those in the past Admin that we are looking at you.

Posted by: Bori | February 21, 2018 at 09:46 AM

No, they are well aware of that fact. Like Holder (#HimSkurred might as well be his tag), they know Trump has won. They are attempting a Hail Mary to stave off the inevitable. But Trump and Sessions are tag-teaming on these fools, like the old wrestling matches from Saturday afternoon TV way, way back in the day.

* * *

If FL had the same gun law as CA, the parents/guardians of Cruz weren't alarmed enough by his bizarre behavior to do anything about it that I recall reading.

Posted by: glasater | February 21, 2018 at 11:51 AM

Exactly. I still maintain the school, the school district, and the Sheriff's Office is far more at fault than the FBI is. As Americano indicated, the mere threat of a school shooting is a 2nd degree felony in Florida.

We have enough damn laws. We need to enforce the damn laws and begin inculcating into these so-called professionals the DUTY they first and foremost owe us when dealing with potentially dangerous individuals who are clearly threatening harm to others.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/21/billy-grahams-message-to-us/

Click on the link to Stella's Place and you can watch the video.

[henry]

RG, I understand your desire to be otimistic. Can you show me one single pension denied from these govt evildoers? I really need to see perp walks. But I'll accept a single denied pension.

(FYI, I'm not holding my breath on this).

[DebinGA]

Ruth Bell Graham's tombstone - rough, nothing about her accomplishments, just a meaningful sign she saw one day ...

[Extraneus]

Did someone say pension?

Retired NYC sanitation worker makes $285K a year from pension

Eugene Egan, the garbage-hauling agency’s longtime director of labor relations, was earning $128,189 a year when he retired in 2015, public records show.

But because the 86-year-old Bronx man started working for the department before July 1973, he was enrolled in the city’s most lavish pension plan — known as Tier 1 — and was able to continue growing his retirement pot throughout a lengthy career.

Asked about his lifetime golden handshake on Tuesday, the golden oldie became defensive and called the figures “fake news.”

[Old Lurker]

Hell, Henry. I'd settle for a simple declarative statement from SOMEBODY that rumors of expiring Statutes of Limitations are not true because...

Until then speculating that anybody at the DoJ is going to wake up and deliver justice to obvious criminals are just pipe dreams. But don't worry, Lucy, some IG guy will swoop in soon and all will be OK.

[henry]

More union good behavior. “He said, ‘We really don’t like when people don’t join the union,’” Herr said. “He told me there were two other people in the pottery building who didn’t join the union and that nothing good happened to them.”

http://www.maciverinstitute.com/2018/02/union-to-worker-join-or-we-cant-protect-you/

[Extraneus]

Via Ed @ Instapundit:

China wages war on funeral strippers

China has launched its latest crackdown against a phenomenon which just won't seem to die in rural areas - funeral strippers.

The Ministry of Culture said last month that it was targeting "striptease" and other "obscene, pornographic, and vulgar performances" at funerals, weddings and traditional Chinese New Year public gatherings.

The war on strippers at funerals has been a long one for China. Authorities first began clamping down on "obscene" performances in 2006 and launched a second campaign in 2015.

The latest is focused on 19 cities across four provinces, Henan, Anhui, Jiangsu and Hebei, a statement on the website of the Ministry of Culture said.

Some communities in rural China reportedly believe that bigger attendances at funerals help to honour the dead and bring them good fortune.

Ergo...

[Jim Eagle]

I didn't know this but Peter Chang wasn't the only JROTC cadet to be killed by Cruz, there were two others. The Army gave them all Medals of Heroism but only Chang got the West Point appointment. I also didn't know that Cruz was also a JROTC cadet at one time.

So, my question is, why wasn't young mister Hogg a member of that brave squad?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jack,

I am not sure Master Hogg was even a student at the school. Lots of internet chatter about him being older than high school, graduated from a California high school, dad retired FBI, mother CNN producer now retired, etc. etc.

I don't know which is fact and which is fiction. He seems to get an inordinate amount of air time, though.

[Captain Hate]

As I prepare to head out to go see what all the fuss is about over the Black Panther movie

This is one of these, for lack of a better term, cultural moments when it seems like almost everyone is insane.

[PDinDetroit]

When we have gotten questions about guns in the home in MI, we usually leave and go to a different doctor. Some on MGO have discussed many times, the answer is always the same.

There isn't a question to me, I carry at my doctors office.

[Momto2]

OT - Interesting article about Eagle Corn...have you heard of it, KK?

The last 50 kernels of Eagle Corn were kept in a mayonnaise jar, the last seeds of a mother corn that had nurtured the Pawnee people for generations and was taken with them when they were exiled from Nebraska to Oklahoma in the 1870s.

https://truewestmagazine.com/keepers-of-the-seed/

[henry]

Reminds me of Madison during the recalls.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/374867-students-rally-for-action-on-guns-outside-us-capitol

[Porchlight]

No one wants to be lectured by teenagers, no matter how sympathetic the teenagers may be.

This isn't going to go the way they want it to (again).

[Porchlight]

RIP, Billy Graham. Sad to lose you but am happy for you now that you're at your new address. :)

CH @1:17 - yes.

[F Hudson]

I feel the best way to protect gun rights for law abiding citizens is go after guns of criminals and those who fit into the Cruz mold. I believe the NRA and most gun rights advocates (such as I am) would support taking away temporarily and permanently the right of a person to own a gun if reasonable cause can be presented to show he presents an imminent danger. I would think state courts have the inherent power to issue such injunctive relief without need of legislation. I would not see this as a federal question.

[Extraneus]

New charges filed in case against Paul Manafort, Rick Gates

The new document filed in federal court Wednesday by Mueller’s team was put under seal by the court. Judge Amy Berman Jackson is overseeing the case.

According to NBC News, Mueller’s team is looking to see if Manafort promised Stephen Calk, the president of Federal Savings Bank, a job in the Trump administration, possibly in return for loans.

Calk became one of Trump’s economic advisers in August 2016, and Manafort received loans in December 2016 and January 2017 from Federal Savings Bank to buy homes in New York City and the Hamptons. Manafort left the Trump campaign on Aug. 19, 2016.

In court filings Friday related to Manafort’s motion to change his bail terms, federal prosecutors said they have “substantial evidence” that he secured a mortgage from Federal Savings Bank “through a series of false and fraudulent representations.”

[Old Lurker]

So Ext...Stephen Calk must have been a top aid to Putin, right? Otherwise Mueller would not go there.
Rosenstein would never let him.

[Extraneus]

Rosey's a strict taskmaster, that's for sure.

[Extraneus]

Pelosi, Schumer want $300 million to protect US election from Russia

Democratic leaders on Wednesday demanded an increase in funding for the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security in the upcoming omnibus spending package after special counsel Robert Mueller indicted 13 Russian nationals for meddling in the 2016 election.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and leading Democratic appropriators sent a letter to House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., demanding that $300 million be given to the FBI and DHS so they can prevent more meddling.

"We have Russian operatives flooding our social media platforms with misinformation. We need both the resources and manpower to expose and counter them and other hostile foreign actors," Schumer said in a call with reporters Wednesday.

"Both parties in Congress have united and stood up to Putin before," Schumer said. "When we did so, we did so even when our own president wasn't supportive. We need to do it again. We need to do it now."

The letter calls for state and local governments to beef up their defense against cyber attacks, including the replacement of outdated voter registration and voting systems, after it emerged that the Russians tried to attack those levels of government.

It did?

[Extraneus]

Teen Vogue Writer, Media Hope ‘Evil Bitch’ Billy Graham ‘Rots in Hell’

This is a person who has appeared on NBC, MSNBC, and CNN (at least six times). She’s even been on Fox with Tucker Carlson – although that didn’t go so well.

When she appeared on Carlson’s show in 2016, he told her to “stick to the thigh-high boots” instead of politics. In retaliation, she raised thousands for Planned Parenthood in the host’s name last year. She raised another $5,700 in February just in time for Valentine’s Day.

But she wasn’t the only one who wished hell on Graham. Others, in both the media and entertainment industry followed her lead.

[henry]

So is Calk charged with bank fraud? approving loans for a job sounds illegal to me.

[Captain Hate]

Wow there are some really nasty posts on Zuckerberg today about Billy Graham, including some unexpected ones.

Tammy won't link to Gateway Pundit any more because Hoft has posted so much wrong stuff.

[PDinDetroit]

Saying mental illness and health diagnostic criteria should be used to deny rights is fraught with peril.

Many might be inclined to says that a person who has PTSD shouldn't be able to purchase, possess, transport, or carry firearms. Makes common sense, right? A look at the DSM-V and PTSD Diagnostic Criteria (DC) is in order.

https://www.brainline.org/article/dsm-5-criteria-ptsd

Hmmm. There is mentioned DC for children here, even 6 years old or younger. I thought we were talking about PTSD, like what happens to veterans?

Oh no! PTSD can occur for any numbers of LIFE EXPERIENCES and AT ANY AGE!

I will use me as an example. I meet the PTSD DC for the following:

1. House Fires at ages 4 and 10.

2. Tornadoes at ages 5 and 10.

3. Sexual Assault at age 5.

4. ADD my entire life.

5. Vehicle rollover accident at age 44.

6. Effects of migraines at age 52.

The list could go on and on. Based upon PTSD diagnosis, which one mental health professional said I COULD HAVE, I would be denied rights such as RKBA. I passed NICS for all if my FFL based firearm purchases and passed FBI Background Checks every 5 years for my MI Concealed Pistol License (CPL).

I have passed FBI, DOJ, Homeland Security background checks for work. If PTSD was added to some list, would I be able to work in My field still?

Fraught with peril and the law of unintended consequences would have far-ranging effects for 4 little letters: PTSD

[sbw]

JimNorCal: Maybe this is longstanding, but it seems more important than a lot of other stuff. Like rare gun violence.

Longstanding indeed. 1965. The Moynihan Report.

[Porchlight]

I agree, PDinDetroit.

Said it before, will say it again: "But we have to do something" are the six most dangerous words in English.

[PDinDetroit]

Anyone who thinks that firearms confiscated for temporary mental health issues would ever be returned needs to have their head examined.

[henry]

Anyone who thinks ownership of firearms won't be defined as a mental health condition needs their head examined.

[PDinDetroit]

Yes, let's do something. Let's educate the uneducated! Post this information far and wide!

1. Police have no duty to provide protection for any person, even if a person has a personal protection or restraining order. See Castle Rock v Gonzales.

2. Police have no duty to respond to 911 calls. See Warren v DC.

3. 911 response times are 5-10 minutes on average. Just in time to draw chalk lines.

4. FBI Statistics on officer involved shootings is 18% of rounds fired hit their intended target. See FBI UCR.

A person's life really is in their own hands.

[PDinDetroit]

Go henry!

[James D.]

A person's life really is in their own hands.

That's the central truth that far too many in our society do not accept, or even understand, and it applies to a lot more than just self-defense.

[art in newport -]

Black Panther is iconic, but not the way people generally think.

It comes down hard on the side of strong masculine virtue and on the side of family. It shows a nation of black people as educated and competent.

I wasn't looking forward to it as I entered the theater with my son, having heard all the talk, but it was not an sjw production at all.

I could say more but that's the gist of it.

(ok, the rinocerouses were a little over the top)

[PDinDetroit]

Think an age restriction will work for an ASSAULT RIFLE because persons under 21 are not allowed to buy pistols?

Persons under 21 ARE ALLOWED to buy a pistol!

https://www.atf.gov/questions-and-answers/qa/may-individual-between-ages-18-and-21-years-age-acquire-handgun-unlicensed

[Davod]

""after it emerged that the Russians tried to attack those levels of government.It did?"

The Department of Homeland Security was caught hacking various states election software.

[henry]

Maybe Jeh asked the Russians for help?

[Davod]

In response to the previous post:

Henry:
"We'll have a good laugh about it in the camps Miss M. Good luck at the neuro's!"
The camps mentioned here:
FBI Agent Larry Grathwohl - Bill Ayer's Weather Underground plan to Kill 25 Million Americans
https://youtu.be/R2pMkkXIDrM

[Davod]

In response to the previous post.

"The Left Hits Panic Button – Petition With 600K Signatures to Remove Nunes From House Intel Committee Delivered to Speaker Ryan’s Office"
How much signature fraud involved here?

[Extraneus]

2020 posturing update:

Andrew Cuomo on Tax Reform: ‘The Middle Class Got the Crumbs From the Table’

Gillibrand Says Corporations Own Washington, Calls for Publicly-Funded Elections

[PDinDetroit]

They knew and did nothing.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nitrd.gov/cybersecurity/documents/081208_securingcyberspace_44.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiK7Jz-47fZAhUFjq0KHVW5AJMQFgglMAA&usg=AOvVaw0j4PWbV82Fc_Q58-UX83WL">https://www.nitrd.gov/cybersecurity/documents/081208_securingcyberspace_44.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiK7Jz-47fZAhUFjq0KHVW5AJMQFgglMAA&usg=AOvVaw0j4PWbV82Fc_Q58-UX83WL">https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nitrd.gov/cybersecurity/documents/081208_securingcyberspace_44.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiK7Jz-47fZAhUFjq0KHVW5AJMQFgglMAA&usg=AOvVaw0j4PWbV82Fc_Q58-UX83WL

[PDinDetroit]

Damn, sorry. Corrected post and link.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/securing-cyberspace-44th-presidency

[Beasts of England]

When funeral strippers are outlawed, only outlaws will become funeral strippers.

[henry]

Uh oh, Uranium 1 informant suing over leaks.

https://saraacarter.com/attorney-fbi-informant-presses-doj-leak-investigation/

[James D.]

Gillibrand Says Corporations Own Washington, Calls for Publicly-Funded Elections

I know the Constitution doesn't actually mean anything to our courts (or legislators) anymore, nor does plain English.

But can one of the great legal minds here explain to me how public funding of elections is not effectively forcing me (through my taxes) to pay for speech I disagree with?

[Account Deleted]

Yes, I have Mom2To. There's more out there. We just don't see any value in advertising it. It's a lips n ships kind of subject. Genetic theft is huge binness.

[Momto2]

Interesting, KK!

This just sounds *so* good!

“It tastes like almonds with cream”

[Jim Eagle]

When you go to Davod's 2:45 link to Larry Grathwohl's revelation that Bill Ayres Weather Underground was prepared to kill 25 million Americans who would resist the Commies take over of our Country, the second vid is a debate between Dinesh D'Souza and Ayers.

Watch it. Old radicals don't grow old they grown more radical and have kids that are just as radical. If it ever comes down to a second civil war, we will have to kill them all so there is no chance of reproduction at all.

[anonamom]

Porch: I was startled the first time, and thought of doctors as allied with the individual but now I consider them an agent of the state and routinely lie.
Sad.

Posted by: JimNorCal

I can assure you, with those EMRs, that is exactly how you should be thinking. Anybody "compliant" with Medicare billing, anyway.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2h2 hours ago

Yesterday, it was my great honor to recognize extraordinary Law Enforcement Officers and First Responders, and to award them the the highest possible decoration for bravery by public safety officers, the Medal of Valor. #AmericanHeroes

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/966377081469882368

(Short video at link.)

[Davod]

Re my post about Grathwohll In his talk, Grathwohl says that many of the 25 people in the room discussing reeducation camps and killing 25 million people had advanced degrees.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Davod,

After I have spent a few years on Twitter, I have no doubt. The worst tweets are usually from people associated with colleges.

[Ralph L]

JiB, I don't know if you saw my idea this morning to name a school after P Wang. Better than a street.

[James D.]

many of the 25 people in the room discussing reeducation camps and killing 25 million people had advanced degrees.

Our highly educated, sharply creased, self-selected elite, ladies and gentlemen.

[Davod]

From Instapundit:

"PERFECT TIMING: Jeff Bezos reveals construction of a massive clock inside a Texas mountain that will chime every day for 10,000 years as a ‘symbol for long-term thinking.’...

...Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, who has invested $42 million (£30 million) in the project, revealed the clip on social media..."

Hmm. Clock buried in mountain versus Tesla launched into space.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5416495/Jeff-Bezos-reveals-footage-10-000-year-clock.html#ixzz57mCrKj12

[daddy]

Good Morning!

Trey Gowdy down the important work the people elected him for:

Trey Gowdy questions EPA's Scott Pruitt over frequent first-class flights

C'mon Trey, appoint a Special Prosecutor why don't 'cha?

[Tom R]

Wouldn't Bezos' $42 million be better spent on some kind of charity? How many underprivileged kids could go to college with that much money?

[Extraneus]

NTSB: Truck hit by train carrying GOP lawmakers was in railroad crossing even though gates were down

[daddy]

"Sessions just announced a new cyber security task force, Rosenstein to pick leader."

Is the Ledge open, OL?

Geebus. Hell, Why not just let Sydney Bloomenthal orJohn Brennan or George Soros pick the leader and cut out the middleman.

[daddy]

Market that was up 300 now down 170. Thanks Fed notes.

[daddy]

Surber re: Mueller:

An honest man by now would have issued a report exonerating President Trump, thus ending rumors that have plagued not just his presidency but hampered his foreign policy.

Agree totally.

And as a hypothetical, if Mueller decided to do the right thing as Imperator Rex hallucinates at his new thread, what members of Mueller's Team would follow Mueller's lead and do the Right thing? Stroke? Page? Ohr and his wife? McCabe? Weissner?

Who of all the biased criminal creeps Mueller selected has the slightest interest in doing the right thing by serving Justice proper?

It seems to me that Mueller so hamstrung himself by hiring so many Clinton/Obama loving scum, that even if he wanted to now do the right thing he couldn't. He already gave them carte blanche to destroy Trump's Presidency any way they liked so why the hell would they swap horses in the middle of the stream and now start pretending to be good guys to salvage Mueller's legacy?

Not gonna' happen.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

SportsCenter
‏Verified account @SportsCenter
38m38 minutes ago

This Just In: Adam Silver announced Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban has been fined $600,000 for public statements detrimental to the NBA.

[Old Lurker]

daddy, Henry and I had lots of fun this morning on Sessions-Rosenstein and their new cyber weapon.

Later in the day I echoed your lament about nobody saying nuthin about the Statutes of Limitation and whether they are or are not running out and why.